STOP GETTING THIS WRONG - How to release the golf club 

Body rotation for me!

@@ptnpharmd great release pattern

Roll release for this 8.4 , @ 71 years old

@@daveparsons7756 perfect!

Absolutely great video. This has given me much clarity on how I have been playing. TBH I actually utilize both types of swings. High lofted clubs full shots 56-8 I use roll release. Gives me high shots for more stopping power. 7+ I use body release giving me more piercing shots. I didn’t realize this is what I was doing until I watched this video. Love it

Thank you!

Amazing! Glad I could help

Amazing! Glad this helped and good luck this season

Thank you Graham

yes!!! right on!

Be sure to check out my senior release pattern as it’ll be perfect from what you described

Sounds like a toe up roll release was made for you!

Amazing! Glad you enjoyed the video!

Thank you! Sounds like you’re heading in the right direction with more of a body release

Wow thank you so much! It’s amazing to hear you’re enjoying the content so much & that the movements are natural for you! I’ll keep it coming

Glad it helped!

Amazing!

Exactly! You must must must release the club no matter what pattern you are. I share your frustrations when watching videos

@@Gilesgillgolf So do both hands roll together a little when the right hand unhinges in the square release? Or more after?

@@dj-flights7376 after around left arm parallel in the downswing both wrists will start to unhinge otherwise the club would never get to the ball

@@Gilesgillgolf yes, I’m assuming there is a small degree of forearm roll going on while they unhinge in the square release. Just not nearly as much in a full roll release. Does that sound right to you? Thank you.

@@dj-flights7376 exactly that

Thank you!

Fantastic!

Me too 😢

Me to I do try the club matching the spine and try to rotate. But sometimes when I get to impact something is wrong and my hands save the shot by rolling. My mates usually see it and say “good save” or it pushes to the right or hooks to the left! 😢

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it

Roll release in its self wouldn’t cause fat shots. More than likely something else is causing the issues

Thank you! Glad this has cleared this subject up for you

@@Gilesgillgolf well let's not get too excited, I still have to do it 😂. I've learned that KNOWING what to do and actually DOING it are 2 different things lol

Great to hear it’s cleared things up for you

Glad it was helpful!

It will definitely help!

Welcome aboard! Hope my channel can bring the joy back into the game for you

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it

Isn’t this a full video 😅

@@Gilesgillgolf yeah my bad, I meant to say a full vid on the body SWING. I feel like there's some different dynamics there throughout the whole swing, not just in the release yeah? Or is it truly a release thing only?

@@iowabowtech1 it’s mainly a release thing. Backswing more than likely is the same. Downswing is just a bit more rotation

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it

Glad you like it!

Sure thing

Well yes of course because on the hands and wrists control clubface so unless you learn how to control the face with them you won’t be able to produce functional moves

That’s awesome

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video

A roll release is one of the methods to fix a chicken wing so be sure to give it a go

Loads of factors: grip, wrist conditions, shaft pitch, forearm positioning, etc

I would say avoid a combo and keep it simple. Let the clubface dictate what’s right for you

Flipping danger only if club head beats your hands to the ball…..(aka “scoop”)

@@daveparsons7756 exactly. You need to do the under hand thrown sensation

Yes the same

Yes it’s the same for driver. What differs is low point relative to ball and shaft lean. Watch my driver vs iron video

Neither is better. Both can be very fast but you just have to achieve the speed different ways. Don’t combine the releases other wise you’ll spray it all over the place

Only change if you’re clubface is telling you too. If your clubface is in a body release position then stay with the body release

Well bowing and flexing plays a huge role in controlling loft & clubface on the arm will always react to that

Will always be tension in core yes

@@Gilesgillgolf Thank you for answering:)

@@nomanishfaq9011 no problem

Definitely a lot more clubhead speed with the role release

Roll release tends to have more but it’s not as much as people think

Roll release requires less body rotation so is easier on the body

I was curious with which release I should be working on since I had back surgery in the early 90’s. Now 52 and was old school roll release but was working on body release but everything is drawing left. I agree the roll release would be easier on the back.

@@bearois1 roll release does provide less strain but remember your clubface dictates your release so if you want to change release you need to change clubface

I actually learned to keep my club face parallel to my spine (modern instruction) on the backswing where as my natural swing was toe up in the past. Now I understand why everything was starting down the line and turning over too much. Club closed at impact and not body releasing. Great explanation of both swings 👍🏻

What has changed in the game at the amateur level is the incentive to learn how to shape shots. I learned in the early 80s from Golf My Way where Nicklaus wrote that he never saw a shot as straight and rarely ever tried to hit one that way because there is less margin for error. Conventional wisdom back then was to use a body release to prevent face from closing when trying to hit a fade and a roll release when wanting to hit a draw. Now I rarely play with anyone who knows how to shape shots (at will) or has any interest in learning how to do it so it doesn’t surprise me that the body release pattern has become the conventional wisdom. Another factor is club design due in large part to the introduction of metal / carbon shafts and the physics insights and innovation of Karsten Solheim. It was very instructive for me to build sets of early 1970s muscle back blade irons at thrift stores, regrip them and play them in comparison to today’s higher MOI designed based on the PING Anser putter and PING EYE irons. The old blades and Bullseye putters have some much toe bias they try to twist open in the backswing and closed during the downswing. The toe bias is so great in older low MOI irons that twists the shaft of the club. Golfers like Hogan, Sneed and Nelson learned to compensate for the twisting of hickory shafted clubs pulling the face open then snapping it shut with hand action. When they made the transition to metal shafts in the late 1920s and early 1930s they had to change technique because the shafts don’t twist as much. Karsten Solheim realized that toe bias in putters and circa 1950 iron designs was still causing the face to change due to twisting of the club in the hands, something pros had learned to compensate for but amateurs couldn’t. He realizes by changing the heel-to-toe mass in the club head it could be designed to automatically stay square with the swing arc resulting in more consistently straight shots: at the target, straight right, or straight left depending on where the ball was placed on the swing arc. I have sets of the original PING EYE, the PING EYE 2 and a set of PING S57 irons and the difference in swing feel in the hands compared to traditional muscle back iron can be felt. With a toe bias blade the difference it toe direction when setting up for fade vs a draw is very noticeable because of the way the toe bias tries to twist the club in the hands. The higher MOI PINGs and any cavity back design will twist less and not provide the same feedback in the hands about how the club face is oriented. The most critical phase is when the club moves from shaft horizontal with toe more or less vertical in the air and impact where it swings (ideally) square to swing arc and the target line if set up for a ‘dead straight’ shot or back to the desired degree of being closed or open to swing arc if planning to hit a draw or fade, respectively. Pros initially resisted changing to higher MOI clubs the same way they resisted changing from wound Balata balls to Polymer - until Tiger arrived on the scene and started out driving them by 50+ yards-because they were accustomed to the feedback the toe bias in the blade irons provided. When one can hit hundreds of shaped shots per day like the pros do - and I was able to do when working at a course - one can start to feel in the hands when the toe of the club isn’t oriented as planned during that critical phase. The ‘waggle’ thing that Hogan popularized few now do ingrains the feeling of how the club comes down from shaft horizontal through impact. Try exaggerating where the toe is oriented at address and waggle the club a few times you should be able to feel the difference during the waggle and become more aware of toe and face during actual swings. In practice at the range when I feel a shot isn’t going as planned I resist trying to reflexively tying to ‘save’ the shot by steering the face back square to target with hands and just let the mistake happen to observe the ball flight and from it identify the root cause of the bad shot. Because I alternated between a slight draw as my ‘normal’ shot shape with roll release and fades with more body release only when needed my most common mental error is setting up to hit a fade but using a roll release which results in a nasty snap hook. When that happens when playing on the course I’ll attempt to save the shot with the hands but with varying degrees of success. All things considered I think the best approach as a once-a-week golfer is playing with high MOI self squaring clubs with a body release and the goal of hitting straight shots with a bit of draw spin, but that said nothing beats a high fade for sticking an approach shot on the green. I’m 72 with some arthritis in my lower back but thankfully it doesn’t affect my ability to to side bend and keep the face square to swing arc with a body release when needed to hit a high fade 😊

Club never goes low left. It goes up and left but that happens due to you rotating more which creates the space. Manually try and do it and you’ll chicken wing

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What’s your clubface on the way down

Dangerous game mixing it up

@@Gilesgillgolf yes, you said it.

Depends on your swing

For some but not all

I think short iron is easier with body release，the Driver need more arm release@@Gilesgillgolf

Can be lots of reasons. Is it a clubface issue, path issue or strike issue

Open relative to what? Square? I wouldn’t go to open otherwise you’ll struggle to close it fast enough

You wouldn’t want to. You’d lose control over the face

@@Gilesgillgolf But what if you do not :P, you would gain massive speed and so distance. I'll will try next week on the range :D

@@bartosdiagos no you’d more than likely hit it miles off line as you won’t have any club face control. See it more as you are one or the other

@@Gilesgillgolf I feel l ike you can offset that with speed, but like I said, I don't have the time right now, but next week i'll try it on the range.

@@bartosdiagos how can you offset that? Your clubface determines the release. If you try and combine it you’re going to rely on pure timing which is a recipe for trouble

You 1000% would. Would you say Patrick Reed, Mickelson & Will Zalatorious are bad players because there clubface is open and they have roll releases? The issue with the golf industry is they teach models but that doesn’t work as we aren’t all the same. Now if your model can adapt for different situations, variables & matchups then that is a model people coaches should teach. Not a one size fits all model which is technically what you’ve just described

Where did I say everyone needs to swing the same? So you would tell Hovland to stop doing a body release if his face was open at p6, and instead tell him to do a roll release and drop his elite body motion…instead of the logical approach of keeping his elite pivot and simply changing his grip or wrist structure to change the open face at p6? Of course, a roll release is fine if you are a pro and can manage it or you are a player who has no choice and can’t move properly. But this doesn’t prove that a roll release is not a sub-optimal release pattern for anyone who has a choice, can move well, and can do a body release with a much more stable club face release pattern like Hovland.

@@jimgeorge72 I have video right here on my iPad showing Viktors clubface is pointing down and shaft parallel in downswing so he is a body release. I don’t know what video you’re looking at but I can email you over the videos I have showing he has his clubface down

Take a breath. I’m on your side. I know his face is pointing down. I said, what if his face was instead open or facing upward. What instruction would you give him? Would you change his release pattern or fix the open face at p6?

@@jimgeorge72 it depends on the player. Viktor wouldn’t be in that position and have an open face because his body wouldn’t allow him to get there

Does your clubface match the release pattern?

Toe up is a roll release pattern

No point, if you’re a hands release player then embrace it

That’s what I said. Clubface determines your release. Grip & wrist conditions play the biggest role in determining clubface. We’re saying the same thing

@@Gilesgillgolf I mean that it should be called like underhand release Vs roll release.

@@oolaspalmas some people including myself do call it that

I’d say find one and stick with it but watch my seniors release video

Yes the same