@@sarickacampbell2642 no one called her a murderer just a killer which she is even if it was in self defense. And I’m speaking from the perspective of the people she’s killed.
my sister and i were rewatching season two with our grandmother, who was watching the show for the first time, and we started cracking tf up at the rainbow ship and she was so confused
I know not everyone is a psychology nerd like me but Billy’s behavior throughout this season is like a textbook example of the effects of childhood abuse. the fact that Brad was so baffled by him starting the fight is kinda funny to me. for anyone who doesn’t know, childhood development 101: kids model the behavior of their caregivers. You see it play out exactly the same. Billy’s dad shoves him up against the wall; then Billy shoves Lucas against the wall. His dad demands obedience and respect; then Billy gets mad that Max “disobeyed” him. He’s not acting that way for no reason, it’s literally what he’s been taught. And when children are abused, they tend to seek control in other areas of their lives. So, he exerts force over Max, the kids, and his own peers, because he lacks that same power when it comes to his dad. It’s not an excuse, but an explanation. His behavior is not okay in the slightest. But it’s a part of a larger cycle of violence. This is super common. Kali was the same way. Not a villain, just someone whose childhood was beyond fucked up, and now she’s trying to find control and heal her wounds, albeit maladaptively.
True but he is a much worse person than Kali in my opinion due to the racism, and sexism and homophobia he shows. ESPECIALLY that racism because the homophobia and sexism was kinda passive and not as upfront. And yada yada yada yes racism is learned (probably) and period typical in this instance but he is an educated man who is a senior so he no longer gets to claim ignorance like the bully in season 1 gets too.
That scene with Billy and his dad is terrible. What an awful father. To see someone who acts all tough just crumble was so upsetting to see. Nobody should go through that
Yeah like obviously Billy does really fucked up shit, but like we can’t really blame him w/ a father like that… Honestly it really pisses me off because Billy really could be a nice character and also a brother if he didn’t have his dad
@@calumnyuniverse fr! You’re not born racist, it’s all taught and from what we’ve seen of his father we know who taught him to behave that way. I obviously didn’t like that side of billy but I appreciated the way the duffers wrote him to be a layered person and not just a black and white villain. I think billy could’ve been an even greater character given the chance. Plus the actor was way too talented to just let go of :( bet they regret it
Personally, I wouldn't have minded the Sister episode if it wasn't jampacked between a massive cliffhanger and a super tense episode. It just feels so out of place. Like, imagine you're watching a super intense action movie. You're approaching the climax of the film. And then they randomly do a jump cut to a random farm and have a 20 minute scene on a character you didn't think much of. Even if those 20 minutes are half decent, you're probably just going to question why they couldn't sprinkle those 20 minutes throughout the rest of the movie rather than inserting it in the middle of an action sequence. But anyway, I feel so bad for Will. He got kidnapped and trapped in a toxic world for about a week, got back and was frequently haunted by that same world, possessed, and due to the connection felt the pain of being burned alive from the inside several times, before being literally burned in order to get the creature out of him. He has had no rest, only trauma. He deserves all the happiness in the world. Also, the snowball happens and the lines seem to correlate with the characters. "Every smile you fake" and the camera pans to Will awkwardly smiling with a random girl? Will Byers, I know what you are. Fun fact, in the original script of the scene, it mentions that even though Will is dancing with the girl, his eyes are always on Mike. Do with that what you will.
The last song, the snowball song, is about a stalker... it fits so much with the ending. The mindflayer following their every step of the way. Such a smart choice
I don't think I can describe how much I love the fact that while every other reactor was disgusted at Billy flirting with Mike's mom, you were like "me too sis" ahahaahah
I think what people gotta understand about mike in s2 is that he's suffering tremendously from ptsd and depression. like obviously will is immensely traumatised, no question, but all the characters kind of brush over mike's situation as a result. all of them have trauma, they all went through insane stuff and saw people die, and mike is one of the characters on the show that's seen the most death. he had to watch the potential love of his life literally evaporate and believed her to be dead for a whole year, trying to reach her every day in the hopes she'd still be out there, and then see his best friends try to move on and find a new friend instead of spending all their time thinking about el like he is. obviously that's irrational but it makes so much sense in his situation. he's showing so many signs of ptsd and depression and everyone is kind of ignoring him, his parents going as far as punishing him for it. I'm not gonna defend the way he treats max but you gotta understand where all that anger is coming from. I am, however, 100% defending him going off on hopper in ep9. imagine mourning someone for a year only to find out they were so close the whole time, hidden by someone you trusted?? yeah, I'd absolutely lose it too and he had EVERY RIGHT to do so. obviously hopper did it to protect him but mike would've taken the risk any day if he'd gotten the chance to have el back. so don't call him a hormonal teenager hun, he's traumatised and depressed and acting accordingly, and I respect it
you gotta understand that mike is just having a hard time accepting max because he feels as though lucas and dustin are letting her replace el. lucas wasn't very nice to el in the first season but was very quick to let max in their group and be her friend, same with dustin. if i were a 12-13 year old kid i would be upset too. it made mike feel like they were forgetting el, but he didn't wanna forget her so i think he just got angry. dont get me wrong, he could have been nicer, but that was just how he expressed things bc he is a hormonal teen. and also he was a great friend to will the entire time while his friends were busy crushing on a girl for most of the show. also i get why he was upset with hopper, he's young and didn't really understand that hopper was only protecting el, to him it was like for a year hopper knew she was safe & knew where she was and he thought she was dead. also you didn't show when he hugged hopper and cried into his chest. like how much he just needed a parental hug. so no i do not think mike was irrational.
also!! i know that lucas at first wasn't gonna let max go right away into the group without knowing the consequences but he still very much did accept her right away, but not el. and also i love them all, like max, lucas & dustin are all amazing.
I live for this, I fucking LIVE FOR THIS, these reactions to ST are everything and I live for it, can’t wait for season 3 and 4 reactions, 3 and 4 really up everything including the budget, season 3 not by much but season 4 had a combined budget of around 270 million dollars, and it shows!
the lost sister episode isn't that bad, it's just sooo unpleasantly unusual to not make cuts to the different groups (will and the doctors; steve and the kids; joyce, bob, and hopper; jonathan and nancy etc.) and not show their development in parallel, as stranger things always do.
I guess that’s true but I personally really dislike it 😅 Like, the storyline does make sense and thinking only of it I do kinda like it, but tbh I don’t like the sister, I don’t like her group, I don’t like Eleven’s look with them, and I don’t like the placement of this storyline. Weird thing is season 2 is actually great but I had the memory only of the sister so I disliked it until “rewatching” with Brad haha
Yasssss, seeing just how far Eleven’s powers has come from Season 1 in this finale was just amazing to see. Can’t believe we’re already halfway done with the show! 😲
He wasn’t guessing lol, will is still in there, but the shadow monster is taking over more and more which means he’s forgetting more things/taking longer to remember things which is what joyce realized and that’s why she knocked him out.
I was more on Mike’s side when it came to his reaction to everything with El! He’s the one who was taking care of her last season and didn’t even know if she was alive, so his reaction seemed normal!
I think the reason Billy is so quick to fight is because he just had the issue with his dad so he’s angry. He even says the line “no one tells me what to do” when the only reason he is there is because his dad told him to find Max. And I think he’s shitty to Max because he blames her for their family moving to Hawkins (she said they wanted to get away from her dad) and if she hadn’t snuck out then he wouldn’t have gotten in a fight with his dad and he’d be on his date. I don’t think it excuses anything he does but there is a reason why there is that saying “hurt people hurt people” it gives him a bit of depth rather than just being a flat out asshole….rant over. Can’t wait for the ranking video and the next reaction!! 💙
I love the scene with Billy and his father because while it does not excuse anything Billy has done or said , it shows he’s been bullied into being who he is and shows he’s human too I love that the Duffers can make you feel sympathetic for pretty much any character by showing that hatred is taught and not innate
*mental breakdown* Kali is not evil! She's lost, just like the title implies (more than "physically lost"). She's grown up with the same traumas as Eleven and dealt with them alone, she chose to fight back, surely it's not the best choice, but it's the best she had with her circumstances. She didn't manipulate Eleven, these things she felt when meeting El were real, she's been just as lost as Eleven before they met. Now sure, Kali has her own vision on how she should and El should "deal" with their past. That makes her lost, she doesn't have a Hopper, a Mike, a whole party of friends to go back to. Kali is meant to represent what El could have become/would have become if she were all alone. But the trauma and loss they share is real, and that's a true connexion between them. You can see that Kali isn't a bad person, she didn't become a villain because she hunted these people from the lab. She didn't take El's agency from her, even the show pointed out that El took Kali's agency from her, not the other way around. Kali doesn't hurt anyone else than the people who hurt her. When the cops came, she found ways to disctract them, not hurt them, etc. This relationship deserved way more and ugh, Kali deserves so much better. Also Eleven on her own deserves the appreciation she's earnt, this episode serves her storyline more than a lot of things that happened this season or the season before at this point, and that's important. I don't get people complaining about the fact that it "cut" a cliffhanger. Brochachos, the whole season was given to us in one go on Netflix, it's really not that deep.
I love Kali dont get me wrong, but I still agree with the fact that it cut a cliffhanger. Even though most people binge it, they're still left wondering what the hell is gonna go down for like 45 minutes and have to watch that episode instead. Place it like 1 or 2 episodes earlier and it would be great.
fully agree! honestly i dont even think her hunting them down is wrong. i feel like everyone likes to ignore that these people were kidnapping and torturing children. sure, that guy had his own kids, but quite frankly after what he did in the lab i wouldnt trust him to be a good parent. we all cheered when Eleven killed the woman at the end of season 1, but Kali kills a man who actually tortured her and that's suddenly morally wrong? i mean come on!
@@zacheryleblanc9676 right? There is kinda a double standard sometimes. I remember for example in X-men First Class everyone was cheering at Magneto at hunting down his abusers, how is this anything different? In season 4 we learned they even use shock collors if a kid is acting out 😬..
YAYAYAY SO EXCITED THIS IS UP!!! Just binged the entire series and finished the end of season 4 yesterday so i’m SO PUMPED for your rections to it omg 🤩🤩🤩
I wait for these every week, I've been having a really terrible month mentally and I've been facing a lot of hardship at work and these videos help me calm down and just breathe. Thank you I cried the first time at the snow Ball when Mike saw eleven, and I cried at your reaction to it. They were babiesss😭😭😭
I agree that where Steve was in season 1, he and Nancy didn't work. But I also don't get Jonathan and Nancy-- mostly because I just can't understand how easily she got passed him taking pictures of her undressing without her permission. Steve's development is just top notch and arguably better than most characters of the show. Even when I first thought Steve was a jerk in s1 I quickly came to like him. Upon rewatch I figured out why. His being a jerk was based on his need for popularity due to a sense of loneliness from absent and likely emotionally distant parents, particularly his father. Steve also handled situations badly, even though in some his reasoning is sound (like Jonathan's pic) and does come off as self absorbed, but he honestly isn't that mean at any point-- it is mostly his association with his two friends who are the real bullies that initially makes Steve seem worse then he is. His obvious want to be wanted and not lonely actually key in his relationship and protectiveness over his friends and the kids so endearing-- especially, with Dustin since Steve is really the only older male presence in his life due to an absent father (we've never seen him so I assume he's absent if not dead). Sorry...I ranted. But I just rewatched all the seasons myself so it's all fresh for me again too.
Steve being a jerk in season 1 was actually because they originally wrote him very one dimensional because he was supposed to die in season 1, but like you said he was just so likable even when he was a jerk. Plus the cast and crew behind the scenes were impressed with Joe so they changed his role and gave him a redemption arc.
@@KatyAnn623 Oh yes, I know that-- but it was a poorly written jerk when that was their intent, especially surrounded by bullies like his friends. And letting his character flourish upon realizing that Joe was a keeper and with his acting still makes him the most well developed character arch (kind of ironic considering the intent to kill him off).
I genuinely don't think jonathan was thinking like a creep when be took the pics. I know it's strange, but he said he took them because she was pretending to be someone she wasn't and Steve was the reason. I don't like Steve in s1 at all but he really does grow as a character. I dont like him and nancy together at all though.
I'll never not comment because it brings me too much asfjsafj joy when you post these. AGAIN so unexpectedly satisfying to watch someone watch ST for the first time. To see you feel the way I remember feeling when I first watched it. I just LOVE IT. Watching you realize what was happening with Bob was so brutal, rip Bob for life. Season 3 is my favorite, even after watching 4. The character and relationship development is so deep and satisfying in s3 - it's why s4 feels amazing. Can't wait to watch with you!
After this with Billy dad it kinda added up a lot more as to why he is the way he is, you see more of the back story in season 3 but, a POS like that using you for a punching bag could make you Continue the cycle
Stranger Things is easily my favorite show of all time, and nothing will ever compare to it. There's not a single bad thing I can say about it, and I love everything about it. Especially the second season because it's my comfort and favorite season. Thank you for reacting to it. I really enjoy your commentary :) Also, as for the seventh episode of this season in particular, I personally don't get why most of the fandom hates on it. I get that the placing is somewhat wrong, but I found it to be a breath of fresh air in between the madness that's been transpiring, and I love the different atmospheric vibe/feel to it. It's almost as if we were watching something else entirely, but it still adds more to the main story itself and expands the universe ever so slightly. I think this episode was very necessary for El's character in general and it allowed her to come into her own a bit more as well as help her later on in future episodes.
by the way, whenever billy fought someone.. he pretends the person is his dad because he never had the guts to ever stand up to himself whenever his dad yelled at him and all the other shit that his dad does. thats why he was fighting steve and lucas. you can tell because when he said “nobody tells me what to do” and pushed lucas against the shelf like billys dad did to him earlier. i hope this helps!
Your reactions make my day! You could make a 2 hour video and I would sit for each second. Love the longer videos! I can't wait to see your journey through the rest of the seasons.
Joice is one of my absolute favourite characters! I'm only halfway through season 3 so I don't know what's gonna happen but she's such a badass and I love it
I LOVED Bob from the beginning (I also love Sam from LOR). I was so devastated as to what happened to Bob. He just wanted to help his loved ones. He did NOTHING wrong.
Best Stranger Things reactions on the tube. They fucking give me life!! Please don’t leave us hanging too long for the next season, because I think you will absolutely live for it. Thank you 🙏🏼 Stay safe.
Season 2 is my favorite season, the other seasons have their good parts but this season just had the most content that i specifically love. Very excited to watch your reactions to seasons 3 and 4 though. I love the way these are edited.
Literally when will was in the room that they disguised so he didn’t know where he was and he was screaming let me go!!!! And you were like they can’t hun that’s the point. I literally said out loud you would’ve been great comedic relief in these scenes if you were on the show 😂🖤
Literally the best ST reaction videos, you have the most fun personality and editing, watching these feels like watching for the first time again!! (Also looove that you’re a huge El stan, relatable)
So happy you posted I was so excited! IM SO EXCITED for you to watch season 3 because personally it was my fav season and the new characters are amazing!! ❤️
Wow, I had no idea that S3 was anyone’s favourite! I like the interactions between all the kids in S3 but the storyline is easily the weakest for me. What is it you love about it?
@@HerHollyness honestly, I think it was because of the characters & their interactions that I liked it so much. Loved Robin & Erica, loved all the Hopper / Joyce scenes. The mind flayer was gross and gruesome which reminded me of 80’s horror films so I think that’s really cool. Aesthetically it felt super 80’s too.
Season 4 is my favourite. It was just next level, amazing!! I loved how everything slowly started coming together. And the acting and budget for season 4 was amazing!!
