@The Sixto Show Rewired Yes, there is kerchunking and also kerplunking which is similar but focuses more on plunking rather than chunking - as the name implies.
@@SonsOfLorgar Nicely put in a consice but engaging manner. I assume TL;DR means 'too long ; don't read' but to me your paragraphs landed like falling cherry blossoms on the page of life. There is of course kerflunking which is a failure to make any kind of sound at all, as in "I really kerflunked that one" or "its a right kerflunker" - you get the idea.
You know, the pre-Saiga 12 days are amazing to me. The amount of effort into just making a functional semi-auto shotgun, and without a tube magazine. And then the Russians just slap a box mag into an AK, and it works so much better.
Continue since I didn't actually mean to post that comment yet. the saiga 12 initially was just an AK with extra room made for ejection port and a larger barrel in a larger magwell and all that stuff. interesting ly they started with the better straighten certain magazine and downgraded to the rock and lock because that's what American market thought an AK should be. The problem was most first guns barely worked. They were so finicky about ammo. eventually they did some tuning with gas Port size and the big change was ditching the AK long stroke piston system and replacing with a tappet system. After they put in the tappet the guns worked. But they still had a limited range of animal that they worked with. the next development was put in a 2 position gas restrictor. that made them work with virtually everything so long as you got a gun that was assembled properly. these were refined by the American competitive market and improved a lot and some of those changes eventually made their way back into the izhmash guns as well as the Molot clones. Oddly their flagship model which is now closest to the Iz433 series prioritize in AK style rear sight block and removable gas tube in the process of incorporating that they removed the gas setting restrictor, which is a real down grade. The vepr 12 is cloned from that variant and originally shipped with the saiga-12 "police" magazines. For that reason the veprs also lack the gas restrictor.
Yeah, no kidding... By the time you figure out how to drop 12 shells of #00 out that thing and empty your usuable and decent .40 S&W full size sidearm with at least one spare 14-15 round mag and your subcompact backup with 13 and 10 capacity of 9mm... and you're doing things solo while attemping this... just go ahead and place between legs and kissing ass goodbye because the zombies or Bereauracy have overrun whatever hope you had.
@@TheWhoamaters Umm... anyone who deems the .40 S&W as weak needs a lesson. Those who know, and knowing is half the battle. If ya want something weaker, enroll junior s*** like a .32 ACP.
I mean, hey at least the "destructive device" motif actually makes some amount of sense. *"Oh no, this isn't a shotgun. Its a firearm."* Oh no, this isn't an SUV. Its a vehicle.
@@nooneinparticular5256 You're not wrong, it kind of is. At least it seems to mirror the mythology of the sword/messer thing, the reality of that situation is hard to verify.
I love how everyone came up with these super intricate designs and thought they'd be able to sell them to cops (who would break them by looking at them), only to have some drunk Russian go "What if AK, but shotgun?"
@@kingofthings7929 thats mostly british arms,3 guys in a shed made the Arctic warfare, and so on Soviet engineering needs lowpaid labor, low ethics, and a swig of vodka
In the early nineties I lived in the centre of Johannesburg then regarded as the murder capital of the World. I acquired the South African ARMSEL PROTECTA model that you mentioned for use in situations such as car hijacking and CQB for which it proved it invaluable. In a Country where the Police advised Citizens not to stop at red traffic lights at night outside the city centre it was comforting to have the Protecta sitting safely on the floor between the seats. The 90 deg. pivot of the front grip was quick and positive and I never had any kind of malfunction when using a mix of buckshot or slugs. At that time I also used the 9mm BXP machine pistol also a Rhodesian design produced in South Africa (No review yet ?) and the Stechkin
Most important was compactness together with high capacity. Then it was of a very simple mechanical (non gas) design very easy to maintain and repair if necessary. For usage, it comfortably operated at the shoulder aim position or from the hip stance. Finally, in my experience, the gun was totally reliable and a great confidence booster.
i would need to consider and then answer you but the most basic reasons it was a mix of local and national politics, a sense of having no future to better yourself by the black majority. you can also throw tribal rivalry and common criminality into the mix@@spazzypengin
@@MrYfrank14 😂👌 Im Canadian, and our gun laws are literally FUCKED. Count yourself Lucky. We had a version of your Mini 14 semi-auto we could buy I really wanted.. or just a Regular SKS for target shooting.. Now the Gov. whats to ban all semi-autos because the look deadly!!! Can't even have mags w. More than 10 rounds. My Grand-grandfather had a collection piece, a Small palm pistol almost, and the government made him replace the barel and firing pin with a piece of plastic.. instead of telling him to take the course, years ago when they changed laws.. They just want to take whats ours if its not good for them. Fight for your Rights, we have lost ours here...
@@JackLeMetis - they banned mags over 10 rounds here in the state of CT because a fruitcake shot up a school with a 30 round mag. They said if he had to reload, they could have jumped him. Police report said he fired 300 rounds. Bet you didnt know you could stuff 300 rounds into a 30 round mag. The rounds double in power if the mag is black.
I believe why the Striker was banned while the Saiga wasn't would be due to the time period these exist. The Striker came into the market during the gun-control happy period with its name and marketing aggravating it; the AA-12 came while the battle for gun rights wasvon the offensive...
I saw the street sweeper video and personally I really think this one seems like a decent shotgun. It auto ejects the shells, it looks like its made of higher quality materials too
Funny story, my sister was playing resident evil 4 for the first time. I was guiding her all the way to where you meet the merchant telling her that you will meet one of the few friends you will have in this game. His introduction scenes begin. She forgets or does not get where he went even though the cut- scene just show her. I tell her on the side of shack she goes there see the merchant, scream, shoot him in the head; which is surprising to me because she found the control difficult and thus her aim was horrendous. She miss 99% of her shots. I start to scream why; she said that she thought it was a monster. I tell her that you just saw his cut- scene she said she forgot and I was more dumbfounded. I just sat there and said to myself "in all the way she took him down it was a head shot. A quick one too" then broke out laughing at the realization of all of our events. Good times. *Edit* I remember the incident being more stupid so I went to see the whole scene and there a second cut scene where you are then put in the sell menu. Meaning she conducted a transaction with him left the sale menu forget who she looking at scream and shoot in the face. I am going to show her this so I make fun of her again.
Funny thing is that in the US at least, it is constitutionally legal to own "destructive devices". There was an actual case where a shipping merchant sent a letter to James Madison asking if he could put cannons on his ship to protect him from pirates and state navies that didn't recognize the US and Madison said it was perfectly fine.
I'm often curious as to where guns in games come from, especially when based off of real guns. In the STALKER game series, this gun shows up as the "Eliminator", and is very useful for dealing with groups of mutants. Still takes a while to reload, though, so you'd better be reloading the moment you get a chance. That said, it's fun to see that there's some sort of real research put into some of these games, even if they are just fiction in the end.
@@Gnarfendorf this seems like bait but hey, I'll bite. What makes this worse than any other semi-automatic shotgun, or any other shotgun for that matter? People who want guns like this banned largely don't know anything about guns, their functions, abilities, downsides, or even the gun laws we currently have. If it's because of the drum magazine, the reload time is prohibitively long, to the point a traditional magazine-fed or even tube-fed option would often be easier, faster, and more efficient as a result. It's literally only because it's scary-looking that anyone carea.
Exactly. I have a VR80 shotgun that looks like Usas 12 which was banned, made a destructive device, the main reason for buying the vr80 was it looked fun and like a large m16 I carried in the millitary and since the right to own Usas was taken from me I plan to buy at least 2 20rd drum for it.
@@jamesricker3997 Unfortunately criminals don't care about laws. I doubt that any criminal who is cruel enough to shoot innocent people has problems with owning illegal things.
No way! I was wanting more videos on this family of shotguns for a long time, the streetsweeper one is still one of my favorites because of how much you hate it (and make it obviously so during the video). I can't believe this hasn't shown up on my feed as it's already five days old and I just saw it for the first time, and immediately jumped on it to watch it. I was going to ask before long if you were interested in doing more videos on the family, so I'm glad I didn't waste my time asking that. I'm quite pleased.
I remember stomping the MF yard with this in MW2. Got all the Commando kiddies raging about HAX like it didn't hit with the full force of a wet noodle past 30 feet and they couldn't just, y'know, SHOOT me!
I mean the gun came from a Rhodesian man who then emigrated to south africa, "you know, 'cuz" the gun wasn't exactly designed for anything good or reasonable
Great info on change to DD status ......I love that it was the secretary of treasury that signed off. He's in charge of money so obviously he is a firearms expert.
I am from South Africa, and I used one of these, the fold over stock model without the auto eject. It is a very dangerous weapon to handle. Accidental discharges were plentiful. Picking up a Striker without the safety on, had a discharge. (it was issued that way, the issuing officer was on the other side when it went of, no injuries) put it too hard with the butt on the ground, it fired. (No injuries) Unloading it, also went off (no injuries). Otherwise my weapon of choice till today. Compact, easy to handle in close confined spaces, easy to sling over your shoulder. A great weapon to have in a vehicle. Little to no recoil.
I believe the British Arwen 37 came a out a few years before this would have. 5 round 37mm rotary drum for anti riot rounds/less lethal, although they aren't conventional 37mm grenades. Still in use too. Edited, Arwen not a Anwen.
The Penn arms/deftech 37mm and 40mm launchers use pretty much the same mechanical system save for a top break loading design instead of a fixed drum with a loading port.
I find it deeply amusing how similar this thing is to like...drum-fed Nerf guns. They usually have some kind of button for cycling the drum so you can put darts in, just like this gun.
5:51 Now I finally know why Leon (or whatever character you're playing as) does that weird twist with the front grip when reloading the Striker in RE4. Edit: An example at 5:47
I can see the advantages of the Striker as a breaching weapon, but I like the idea of having two of them. You could potentially swap an empty Striker off to a partner, who'd give you a fresh one while they go through the full reloading process in a cleared area.
Ian, Please talk about your hatred of SBR's/AR pistols. I dont understand why you hate them so much and i cant find any q&a's where you discuss it. Thank you!
TOBA Tim maybe he’s just a pragmatist. AR pistols are just toys with no good use. Clumsy, loud, and too short of a barrel to take advantage of the rifle cartridge. SBRs for the same lack of barrel length for no real gain(sub 16”)
From InRange, that I understand it - Part of it is that 5.56 relies on velocity to be an effective round (that we all understand), part of it is that where Ian and Karl live they see the world in distance-shots for their SHTF arms. If one accepts both points, and relies upon a 16" or 18" barrel for 5.56, then 300 blackout, and other more apt cartridges for shorter barrels, just don't come into play - and, thus, aren't their focus. Meanwhile, the maximum distance I can see shooting, or even see, if I'm not up on top of a building, is about 100 to 150 yards. So an AR pistol (300 BO, or 11.5" or greater 5.56 barrel) is all I need, or ever foresee using here.
@@alexanderstrickland9036 How are they "clumsy"? They are more compact and have the potential to weigh less than a rifle or carbine. That is the rationale they used in the WWSD project when they settled on the 16" and 14.5" barrels over the 18"-20"+. You could argue that the braces aren't ideal and are uncomfortable compared to stocks (which most people would agree with), but some of the more modern adjustable ones come pretty damn close to a proper stock. Not to mention, a lot of places you could keep an ar pistol as a truck gun if you have a concealed carry license, where a long gun might cause a problem, specifically with regards to how the ammunition and firearm are being transported (a lot of places require them to be stored separate, in the trunk usually or something similar). Cartridges like 300 blackout can definitely perform well in shorter barrels. A 10.5" blackout will still have about the same energy as a 16" 5.56, and a 12" will have more (depending on how everything is loaded of course). I'm not completely sold on 5.56 from shorter barrels (
He's just a practical guy. I recall GJ saying the same thing on inrange TV or a q&a about bump stocks. The AR pistols do make fine suppressed machines with the right ammo!
They out to market it in 410 gage and call it the Striker 30 with an 18" barrel and folding stock to get around the destructive device designation problem. Great for those pesky squirrels.
If it was chambered for .410 then you could do the opposite of the Taurus Judge - a shotgun with .45 LC as a backup rather than the other way around. Just in case, for example, a bear got upset at the noise you were making while potting squirrels. Or the hyper evolved squirrel with kevlar fur, whichever you think is most likely :P
As a breacher, I would find the capacity to be just a bit much, 8 rounds would make the drum more compact and practical for that job. What it would be really practical for would be introducing gas, either into a house through ferret rounds, or into a crowd. 40mm is better, but the rounds are expensive and heavy. With this you could carry around 50 rounds, allowing you to push a crowd around quite a bit with OC-loaded impact munitions.
You truly can't expect ignoramuses and hoplophobes to care, much less learn any sort of nuance. The world view of gun control supporters is driven primarily by emotion because no one told them as a child that they can't just cry at a problem to solve it. Any sort of reasonable dialogue is largely lost on them, because they lack the objectivity required to approach the subject logically. As for the politicians, they're either covering their ass to keep a paycheck and not get voted out by said supporters, or they truly lack any sort of empathy, trust, or good will for their constituents.
@@Hanzer-ns5bh people.howstuffworks.com/strict-gun-laws-less-crime.htm I like how you generalize everyone because they don't want guns LOL. Come and argue your point and show me how guns are better for society because this link says otherwise.
ulfenburg oh yes so much better... hmm hey Chicago you have the strictest gun laws in the us right??? But you have the worst gun crime almost 20+ people killed a day. Oh hey Britain you can’t own any guns, but now you have people getting stabbed and acid thrown on them.
@@ulfenburg7539 try composing your own arguments instead linking what someone else told you to believe. Be your own man not an avatar for your ideology
It's impressive and a very clever design, I wonder why the rear of the ejection port wasn't curved to help throw out the spent cartridges (and help to feed new ones)?
I remember when your street sweeper video came out, it was the first video I ever saw on your channel. Back then you had 300k subs. You’ve come a long way Ian keep up the great work!
i absolutely love Rhodesian firearms. they're just so shady and and "zip gun"esk even when it's a legitimate business lol. i would love a full auto komando btw if anyone's holding
Blood trail outdoors Survival i mean, the shells are called “birdshot” for a reason, so i’m assuming you can use it to hunt ducks just as long as you use birdshot.
I purchased this 25 years ago used. It jammed once in a while until I took it apart and realized it was put back together wrong. There is a long pin that goes through the cylinder and if the last 1/4 inch is not pushed through into the other side the cylinder isnt supported properly. Since I figured this out it hasn't jammed once in hundreds of rounds.
Lowkey, can we all just appreciate what a marvel of engineering this thing is, the guy was like, i have a drum, but no way to unload it, what if it unloaded itself?
10:07 i cite this as an example for the fund's who think their shotguns are safe from the ban hammer the look on their faces when they realize stroke of a pen their 870 is in the same class of weapons as a bazooka they look a little worried until they remember football season starts in a week and forget every word I just said to them.
Had a street legal one of these, bought new. Had violent recoil. Sold it to an individual before they were made a taxed item. ATF never contacted me to determine it's disposition. It wasn't a terrible weapon, but the recoil was greater than I wished to endure. Had a rather open pattern with buckshot, which could be advantageous in close quarters.
I had four of them .....I traded 3 for 3 Spectre assault pistols....9mm, 40 sw ,and 45 acp. Still have the spectres today. I use to set up at the local gunshows and my tables were the draw. My knife and gun collection was second to none around Jackson Ms. However after one of the venders that had a direct line to trijicon, were followed home ,all their firearms stolen and killed in Arkansas, I stopped setting up at gun shows. Have not been to one after that crime.The other one I had was traded for a set of corbra 428 heads.
4:07 hence the Spas 12 was made, a semi AND pump shotgun. Unfortunately now no longer in production and damn do I want one cuz of how badass they look.
im pretty sure i could make a working bolter but it would have to be what the sisters of silence use basicaly it wont break your arm upon shooting it .its funny bolters are easy to make its las guns that are wayyyy beyond current tek same with the harliquins kiss
I love the engineering on this, so simple and efficient. Doesn't look very accurate or focused, but hey. Just don't bring it to a hostage rescue mission.
