Strong’s Angriest Interaction in Fallout 4 

He could’ve just said the serum was the milk of human kindness.

All virgil had to do to defuse the situation was say "if they want to turn back into people" lmao

Ironic that the super mutant doesnt want to be unwillingly turned into a human, when the entire plot of Fallout 1 was about humans unwillingly getting turned into super mutants

It’s kinda odd, because while the super mutants may not consent like strong, they are also a very big problem in the commonwealth, and have been turned into super mutants non consensually in the first place. Not to mention how the FEV affects their brains, turning them more violent and simple minded as time goes on, even wiping their memories

Imagine trying to turn back the pets of the super mutants the centaur 😮

I did not know Virgils' story ran so deep. I know he gets mad at you when you destroy the institute.

Lets see we have a 200 year old person who’s been in a freezer most his life, a milk obsessed jolly green giant, and Dante’s brother

What I’m interested in is if the formula is used on a Super Mutant that doesn’t have the ability to remember like Virgil did. Would they be the person they once were or would the be a human with a schizophrenic mind that is broken from years of rads and the FEV.

This is like asking a murderer in a psychiatric ward if they want help. Sometimes the people being helped aren’t the ones who should be calling the shots on their treatment.

People talking about super mutants like literally 99% of them aren't blood thirsty psychopaths with the intelligence of a 5 year old who never chose to be super mutants in the first place.

For most of them it would either be get cured, or be executed. Most only see Humans as food, so it would be a way to save them, rather than eradicating them. Hopefully Virgil can generalize the formula, and work with the Brotherhood to get it administered on a wide scale.

Strong understands that 'generalize the formula' means that Virgil intends to turn more Super Mutants into humans, and he understands that Fist was using Rex as bait when Rex didn't despite probably not having been told of this plan, showing that Strong really does have an intelligence of 6 for a reason.

Don't you dare extinct my xp bags

Virgil as a mutant has the same facial structure as Medic TF2.

Strong wants to live for 2 300 years.He don't want to live for only sixty and die like a normal human

Realizing strong isn’t trying to tear your arm off or any other friendly survivor because he searches for the Milk of Human Kindness to increase his power tenfold. So that he ca tear arms off more proficiently

I don't understand what was virgils idea, he is in the midle of the glowing sea! He is gonna die if he ever leaves

I feel like there'd be serious mental issues for a super mutant to turn human. Many do not remember who they were so the result would be that of anguish and confusion

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Man should find the mariposa super mutants. Most of those guys are still sane and would probably love being human again.

My strong was on the computer as well. I dont know what he was looking up.

The interesting thing is we've only seen virgil as the test subject who was already an intelligent supermutant and hadnt been one for long. What if a "savage" supermutant gets it, would they gain their intelligence back or would they stay the same. And if you were to give to someone like fawkes whos been alive for centuries at this point would he just be an old man?

My boy Strong. If nobody got me, Strong's got me.

Makes me wonder what the person Strong used to be would actually think.

Strong would have a point- if he weren't literally brain damaged by the process of being made into a mutant

This will forever be one of my favorite youtube videos ever lmao Brodie ur a goat for doing that and the editing is KINO

Strong closely revealing his inner goku towards the end

I never knew until now that Bethesda just drops a 100% cure to FEV mutation. Literally why lmao

"Bringing him along to *make* Virgil." I laughed harder than I should have.

I sadly had to kill Virgil cause I accidentally waited till after I blew up the institute to give him the serum and since he found out that I did it I had to kill him

I mean.. if I’m being honest Virgil is right here in the practical sense. The first gen super mutants that were just as smart as humans were actually perfect for the wasteland.

Why does a super mutant need glasses? 😂

strong never shuts the hell up. whenever i’m at my workshop he is ALWAYS TALKING.

"Think strong, the milk of HUMAN kindness? You need to be human for the milk of human kindness"

"One day Super Mutants will Kill everyone" "We win / You Lose human" "This is NOT a Game human!"

When they are a super mutant they won't want to be turned back into a human but when they're a human they were glad they were turned back

I mean, everything pisses off Strong.

Nobody said the serum has to be used. It's just an option. Let the man cook.

To think Strong is voiced by Goku's English VA lol

Strong: Me looking for milk of human kindness. Also Strong: You not make Strong human!

A super mutant turned back into human is just a potential cannible waiting to get caught and killed… Better being harder to kill lol

Guaranteed if you told him that was the milk of human kindness he would take it

Sheesh, Virgil really failed to read the room with that one! 😆

Seeing Strong Fat Finger the terminal was not something i thought i needed to see.

Super Mutants are tragic. Every single one of them was a human before. The Institute is a sick faction.

*"You don't want know..."*

purge the mutant, the alien and the heretic from the shores of humanity

If i were virgil i wouldn't have waited until after leaving the glowing sea to drink that

Virgil is an idiot . He gave up immortality and immunity to radiation to become human again . He managed to keep his intelligence yet thought that turning back into a human in the most radioactive place ever is a great idea . He will become a ghoul sitting there for a number of years and eventually go feral . What a smart guy .

I think it'd be cool if there was a DLC in fo4 where Virgil asks you for help in creating more syrum, you could then help Virgil by releasing the syrum into the air, set up research posts to capture and transform supermutants back and other little experiments you could run. You could possibly even turn strong back into a human ( I'd like to think he'd turn into an extremely snobby aristocratic man . ) You could possibly even discuss this with the brotherhood, either convincing elder maxim to either help Virgil with this or put a stop to the research.

Bet he wish he had that super mutant strength when strong was beating his butt 😂

Imagine if strong met President John Henry Eden and learned his plan to deal with the super mutants.

I actually didnt know this throughout all my playthroughs....interesting conversation...

Bethesda when retconning all of the downsides of being a super mutant with a funny little side quest

Now strong gets how humans felt in fallout 1.

I wonder how strong will feel about jacobstown

I love the part where Virgil says : "heal yourself strong, get Dante. after that, we'll settle the matter"

And thats why strong stays on that tower.

It does open a surprisingly layered question. Super Mutants (at least in FO4) are sentient, autonomous beings that seemingly hold their whole identity in their being a super mutant. They’re violent, yeah - but turning them into humans is tantamount to unconsensually digging around in a psychopath’s brain to make him more docile.

Instead of trying to force this onto the super mutants, he should just give this to the BOS as a way to neutralize super mutants without wasting ammo trying to kill them.

Nah, the conversation should of gone "I won't make any super mutants who don't wanna be human"

strong is just that one companion you bring with you if you want to do a war criminal route but also want a companion that will give input (sorry dogmeat)

I think it's very important to don't always do things that your companion will like cuz it doesn't feel like your choice anymore.

I wouldn't say that he should stop his research, but that the formula should only be given to those who want it

Now there might be a couple super mutents who wiuld like to be human again,but there are potentially hundreds who perfer being as they are

Headline: Post-pocalypse Egghead NOT *Concerned* With *Consent*!

i remember after this you have a conversation with him and he has a charisma check or something and he understands why virgil himself or something like that

I get it. Most super mutants other than masters just don't have the cognitive ability to see the logic in being healed. That might also be exactly why they should be healed but still,if they didn't want to turn and then was pissed as a human they might still be just as aggressive.

it would be a cool mod to have it where for dialogue you can convince the good professor to make a serum that gives the super mutants and memories and intelligence back and dials down over aggression so they can decide for themselves. it should be an easier serum to make, while he works in the final one. In game mechanics. You get the option to bring him supplies so he can craft it this serum for you. To make it more complex, It will be two injections you administer through the syringe gun in order that incapacitates super mutants for five minutes then makes them NPC you can recruit for your settlements. Dropping 20 dialogue trees and have them buffed in 20 different skills so they can specialize for farming merchant scrapping guard work or other such things.

Damnit, i bet that racked up a bunch of affinity points. Strong is one of the hard ones to max out. It seemed like it took forever.

Vergil is probably one of if not a THE smartest institute character to me. If he was the leader rather than father Id join every time.

This is the canon ending to the FEV cure

If super mutants were not aggressive or only attached raders then I would respect their choice but super mutants were humans changed by force

The only Super Mutant companion I want is Erickson.

Strong can't speak for all of them. He doesn't seem the brightest

The best case scenario would have been if Virgil would offer the serum to super mutants and let them decide if they want to become human or stay mutant

Honestly there should've been a way to unmutant Strong, either by gaslighting him into taking it or by rendering him unconcious one way or the other and injecting him.

What I think is hilarious is if you destroy the institute Virgil goes insane saying you destroyed humanity's last hope it's like dude have you forgotten why you left

I wonder how smart the turned super mutants would be since virgil was the exspectation by not becoming a dumb brute like the others

Imagine using it on strong and he just turns into some dude named Steve

Ultimately, it should be a choice for some super mutants. Others like strong, can stay as long as they can cooperate with other species. The rebellious ones that pose problems for all sides, force them to change back.

Strong is kinda right. Some super mutants like Virgil want to be human, so change only those. Let the others be supermutants.

El supermutante amigo del 3 estaria feliz de ser humano nuevamente, aunque tendria mis dudas, ya que al ser supermutante tiene ventajas y posiblemente sea un especimen estable con su mente y no pasaria a ser una piedra por el deterioro mental

It wouldn’t been funny to use the serum on Strong When he turns human again he’s a scrawny nerd who still speaks like a caveman

Fascinating! I need to have strong around some more! Didn't know he would react to vergil like that! That makes sense and it's a cool detail! 😅👍🏻

Doesnt matter what the super mutants want.... they are literally seveerely altered in every way. To the point where they cant even think so gair to say they are not the best to talk about their health

Me who wants to see Strong as human: “let him cook”

Either way, theyre still cannibals who ate people. And if they didnt care, they'd continue to cannibalize. If they did, they would surely unalive themselves due to the grief and trauma

I wish this encounter would actually lead to Strong and Virgil being hostile to each other and forces you to kill Virgil. Or alternatively you can have 2 speech check option convincing Strong to not kill him or convincing Strong that the cure is "milk of human kindness". Itd also be a good idea to tie a companion quest for Strong to give more depth into his character

I feel bad for the super mutants if they get turned back they won't think in rationally and won't go around killing people anymore. They'll have back their humanity

It's pretty much the X-Men 3 thing with the mutant cure

I’d agree with Strong, that was, if Super Mutants weren’t a very real and constant threat within the wasteland. Turning them human might be the only way of helping them in the end.

Strong always has my back, always

There is no way Strong understood "generalize my formula"

The homies in jacobstown aren’t gonna like this one 😂

since mutants don't have genders imagine turning strong back to human and he becomes a pretty girl lmao

Quite smart of Strong to recognise that's what that meant.

It shows you how evenly simple minded the institute is compared to the super mutants. The moment you SAY the research needs to stop, Virgil doesn't explain the details, benefits or any kind of compromise with you and Strong. Virgil just immediately takes his weapon out and aims to end you right there. After everything the institute did to him and everything you were willing to do to help him, he still supports the institute and will try take you down if you even disagree with his plan. My sympathy for Virgil vanished after he was cured.

I just wana say good luck since there are other types of mutants from different strains of fev its gona take a life time for NV fallout 1 and 2 and fallout 3 mutants to be cured

I usually wait to recruit Strong after curing Virgil as to not have this incident occur