Student CONFRONTED With Why RELATIVISM Fails (Important Conversation) 

That’s eisegesis It doesn’t work I can’t believe he said that out loud haha

He obviously doesn’t know what he really thinks.

@@user-ud9og6qm9h Thats sort of true. One cant go beyond the interpretive lens. Even if god spoke to you, you'd still be interpreting that.

He didn't say that though.

I can agree with what he said, but I don't think he's living by that very process (obtain information > verify/disprove > believe > seek more truth/information). If we don't challenge the information it's blind obedience (which in my opinion, results in a very fragile belief). We all have to establish veracity - each persons process may vary in length and depth before they achieve acceptance, but there should always be a process.

The truly wise would know they're a fool and realize that learning from both is the best path.

Fools don’t learn at all…sad

Ah, dang. I am a fool.

@@ninja3687 Not a fool, but doesn't know everything...as no human does.

I think Will Rogers expounded on that... There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.

exactly. its about the heart. God is the ultimate source and creator, regardless of religion we are all made by him

Yes but wide is the path that leads to destruction and narrow is the way that leads to eternal life and only a few find it. There is no ecumenical way to God. Jesus is the way the truth and the life no one comes to the father except through him that is the exclusive claim made by Jesus Christ himself only through him alone can we be reconciled back to God and receive eternal life only by shed Blood on the cross can we be forgiven only by being born again by the Holy Spirit can we enter the kingdom of heaven

That's not what faith is. Read hebrews11:1. It's evidence of the things not yet seen. So if by heart you mean some kind of feeling then you are mistaken

@@O_tropos I agree with this, but I think he meant maybe in terms of faith that faith can only come from yourself and it can't be given to you. Sure the Holy Spirit can work in you through others, but faith in Christ is something that you need to "conjure" through the Spirit. The evidence shows that faith in God is not blind just like climbing on a plane...you need enough evidence to trust the plane and then take a leap of faith and hope that that plane can get you to your final destination.

They want proof.. Problem is they have no clue we use Evidence. It's how you convict people in court. As the jury does not have to be there to witness it. To figure out if the person is guilty. And the worst part of his argument. He used gravity in his argument. As we have no clue what Gravity is 400 years later.. We only see the effect. As it's prediction is reliable enough. We teach it as fact in every Science book on the planet. So if you don't know what Gravity is. But it's reliable enough to teach as fact. Then the Gospel is reliable enough on the Resurrection. As we seen the effect of Jesus Christ had on the world.

Gradually, I began to hate them

@DoubleOhSilver it's just a dumb quote, bro. Chill

Their failure to acknowledge that truth is not relative always gives them an out. They can just go "That's your interpretation, but not mine" and it shuts down discourse. This guy was subtly doing it over and over. Like why even debate if everyone has their own truth.

It’s because they don’t have any solid point or idea, they just regurgitate what the TV tells them to think

@@Tachynonbecause they do not care about finding truth. They just want to be right.

They want proof.. Problem is they have no clue we use Evidence. It's how you convict people in court. As the jury does not have to be there to witness it. To figure out if the person is guilty. And the worst part of his argument. He used gravity in his argument. As we have no clue what Gravity is 400 years later.. We only see the effect. As it's prediction is reliable enough. We teach it as fact in every Science book on the planet. So if you don't know what Gravity is. But it's reliable enough to teach as fact. Then the Gospel is reliable enough on the Resurrection. As we seen the effect of Jesus Christ had on the world.

amen thanks for that, I thought that analogy got a bit confused in the video and wasn't even a great one to begin with, but that explanation brought it back from the dead (pun intended)

Amen.

Exactly SILLY ATHEISTS TRIX ARE FOR KIDS 🤣. Stuart is following his father Cliffe Knechtle's footsteps as he's been doing this for decades answering questions and speaking FACTS 🔥. I was raised Christian but I became an agnostic and atheist at 17-19 years old until I started studying religious beliefs, Christianity and Apologetics Happy Pentecost season brothers, sisters and everyone else He's Alive forevermore AMEN 🙏 ❤️ 👏. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant

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lol like a cameo on a tv show 😂😂

being doing it for over 40 years lol

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FACTS 😂. Stuart is following his father Cliffe Knechtle's footsteps as he's been doing this for decades answering questions and speaking FACTS 🔥. I was raised Christian but I became an agnostic and atheist at 17-19 years old until I started studying religious beliefs, Christianity and Apologetics Happy Pentecost season brothers, sisters and everyone else He's Alive forevermore AMEN 🙏 ❤️ 👏. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant

Lol, they are the ones who go barking up trees. Besides, as annoying as that sort of thing is, a sociopathic blue puppet is arguably worse.

All award shows are a sham.

@@metalrocker627cap

It's Cliffes son, Stuart

​@@metalrocker627? This video is not about "award shows."

not at all, this dude believes in God and is genuine. His interpretation of God is different from your Christian belief. We are all on a spiritual journey to learn here, and if you think he's a coward after coming up to sit at a table for millions to see, buddy you might wanna flip the mirror.

Maybe a fictitious one he invented in his head

​@chase2102 He says he believes in God and then says to follow your own thing. So, he thinks there is a God, but doesn't follow Him or know who He actually is. He is ultimately still following himself and telling others that that is your fact or truth.

Is that fact up to interpretation?

@@chase2102 bro, you’re totally wrong. He doesn’t believe in God he doesn’t believe his belief in God is not genuine because he doesn’t believe in Jesus Christ like he just believes that God could just be your any interpretation you believe that’s the most liberal feminist New Age mindset is just so delusional like please don’t believe in this bro like seriously I really hope you were actually or just trolling

1/4 not religious and 15% atheist or agnostic currently in the US and we are considered a very religious country by european standards. In the 1950's that was 1%. Its likely christianity will no longer exist beyond small communes in a few more decades to a century.

@@robertmorrison107 No brother it will not cease to exist! But the more time goes on the more disingenuous they get.

@@robertmorrison107 That's not true it'll be worldwide by 2050

Stuart is following his father Cliffe Knechtle's footsteps as he's been doing this for decades answering questions and speaking FACTS 🔥. I was raised Christian but I became an agnostic and atheist at 17-19 years old until I started studying religious beliefs, Christianity and Apologetics Happy Pentecost season brothers, sisters and everyone else He's Alive forevermore AMEN 🙏 ❤️ 👏. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant

@@justingary5322 I don't know how to respond to people who can look it up for themselves on the census. I really wish you wouldn't comment if you can't take even a moment of your time to fact check what is being said for validity. Doing so is a colossal waste of every ones time that bothers reading what you wrote.

amen that's the definition I thought of immediately when that came up "Something that is true."

He was thinking about what is considered as a fact not what fact actually is. I dont really know why he did that but propably because he is heavy on relativism.

Right. And facts are always true while opinions, guesses, hypotheses, theories, beliefs, and emotions vary.

That's what happens when someone holds a world view that places them in a perpetual state of cognitive dissonance.

he tried to save himself by saying, "I believe they are wrong (emphasis on believe)."

@@BornAgain223 well, he failed! He refuted himself

*sigh* I get so tired of that phrase "atheistic worldview" There is no worldview. An atheist is someone who hasn't been convinced to believe in a god". Period. There is not one other thought or belief or idea that ALL atheists share. There is no atheistic worldview. There are atheists who don't accept the Big Bang. There are atheists who don't accept evolution. There are atheists who believe in fairies, crystals, magic, spirits, ghosts, etc., with zero evidence for any of those things. And this guy's "logic" is utterly embarrassing. You and I agree on that, at least. The number of people who believe a thing has nothing to do with whether or not that thing is true. That is NOT an atheistic stance, either. By that logic, since over half the world believes in some kind of god, that would mean god is mostly true. That's not how facts work.

You are right, this discussion was cut short and they didn't have time to get to anywhere meaningful or he simply didn't answer the question straightforward.

This is true

facts

He's still an imbecile. Just respectful

It was actually rather telling that he linked anti-vax to the flat earthers. He used them correctly for his purposes, but his purposes were not particularly well-defined or expressed. He really doesn't seem to understand what a fact is; he kept changing his definition.

It was once a truth that Egyptians accepted the heart was your thinking center. Truth, unfortunately is objective.

That’s not supposed to be the point. Stuart came off overly aggressive and pushed away more ppl from Christ with his approach. The guest was much more gracious and emotionally stable.

The other dude won

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​@@mirominasian7690I dont think he pushed more people necessarily away but you are right, he became heated towards the end. Im sure it wasnt his intention but it was the heat of the moment, it got to him.

They do not believe in the Bible

It's Cliffe's son

Op explanation is correct. Bc flat earth was once true and backed up with the days science until it wasn’t.

​@@rockstar-kp2jyWas once considered true

@@joojotin right making op point. Truth isn’t true it’s what is accepted at true per culture

@@rockstar-kp2jy Yes that was what the guy at the video said if thats what you mean by op? Considered true and truth are different which the guy at the video didnt understand

@@dirkjensen969 Not sure what’s so funny? I didn’t say he said that anywhere here. Christ made the claim that he was the son of God & that him & The Father are one. -John 10:30 He also stated that The Father was greater than him. Which clearly draws a distinction. All that said… Christ was sent to declare who God was to the world, because no man has ever seen God’s shape or heard God’s voice. But, God hath borne witness of Christ through the miracles that were done & the fulfillment of prophecies.

@@dirkjensen969 That’s what Truth is & who Christ claimed to be. It’s not that it’s an eastern Buddhism concept but rather who Christ/God is. If Christ was in the beginning, then he precedes all things. Every creator exists both outside & within their creation. So, it makes sense that throughout history & religion we’d see & hear the truth of God touched upon. But, it was always scattered about until Christ. Which is why he made the claim that all that came before him were thieves and robbers. - John 10:8 You can’t take from God & not give Him the Glory.

@@dirkjensen969”Before Abraham was, I AM.” “He who has seen me has seen the Father.” Those are about as close as you can get. The Jews knew this, which is why they attempted to stone Him on multiple occasions and was their ultimate reason for having Him crucified.

So the title is pretty transparent but would you mind expounding on what it covers in more specific terms?

@@kladies3021 It covers how postmodernism seeks to transform biblical view of truth; the distinctions of premodernism, modernism, and post-modernism; defines biblical truth; presents other theories of truth (correspondence theory and coherence theory); an argument for objective evaluation of beauty; offers apologetic advice for talking about truth/christianity in the postmodern world. I found Dr. Groothuis' writing very gripping and precise. You will learn a good deal of other philosophers through this book as well like Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Foucault, Derrida, and more.

interesting , thanks for the recommendation

They want proof.. Problem is they have no clue we use Evidence. It's how you convict people in court. As the jury does not have to be there to witness it. To figure out if the person is guilty. And the worst part of his argument. He used gravity in his argument. As we have no clue what Gravity is 400 years later.. We only see the effect. As it's prediction is reliable enough. We teach it as fact in every Science book on the planet. So if you don't know what Gravity is. But it's reliable enough to teach as fact. Then the Gospel is reliable enough on the Resurrection. As we seen the effect of Jesus Christ had on the world.

that would mean it's a fact that in nazi Germany jews were not human.

Yes, his was of defining ”facts” was a genetic fallacy. For instance: whether or not a group of people belive ’there’s 100 lakes in Finland’ to be true doesn’t tell us anything about the actual truth of the proposition (defining truth as by the correspondence theory of truth)

makes more sense that we choose to come into this world and learn from it, then be reunited with the creator once we die. With so many religions of the world it kinda seems like the baseline is we are spiritual and created beings brought to this world with a specific purpose. If we don't pick the right one then we are in a blaze of fire for eternity seems outdated.....

​@@chase2102 It's not really about what we want, it's about valuing the truth no matter how unpleasant it might be. If Jesus says that Him only is the way, the truth and the life you have the duty to at least evaluate those claims and not just disregard them as outdated because the truth by definition doesn't become less true over time

@@dirkjensen969 In fact there is no proof that the medieval west believed the earth was flat that's why Christopher Columbus thought he could reach Asia by sailing westward and ended up in America by accident.

@@dirkjensen969 In fact nothing suggest that the medieval west believed in a flat earth , that's why Christopher Columbus believed he could reach Asia by sailing westward

​@@chase2102I dont see how both of those couldnt be true at the same time. Also, what kind of moral compass do most people haave by nature? And where does it point to? I would say 90% of the entire population is generally culturally christian, in a sense of moral compass. There is really not many options of religions to be consistent, plausible, with evidence.

They believe that they believe it though. They don’t seem to notice their own lack of logical consistency.

@@adamzappia2213 they do notice it, but they don't care. nothing actually matters to them except the end goal. anything and everything is used as long as the end justifies the means. this is why he essentially doubled down when Stuart asked him if any book can be interpreted any way you want and he agreed with it. He wanted to win the argument, and it didn't matter if he made horrible arguments trying to get there.

Like when some Christian’s say “revelations” lol

You can tell he's lying by his dupers Delight grin as he said it he was backed into a corner so he lied to get out of it

Easy. A fact can point to truth. Its not truth equivalent. A fact is an event or thing known to have happened or existed. But the TRUTH is ontological. Whether or not EVERYONE knows 2+2=4 is different than 2+2=4 "is true" It would be true regardless if we knew it or not.

That sir is the question!

Easy. Truth is ontological and is true regardless of someone knowing it. Facts are things that are known. We COULD all know something that is false and think its true.

@@a-atheist I definitely hear your point bro and think your logic specifically there is correct, but I think our difference is on definition. Of course many can believe something to be true that isnt, but to me these two words are synonymous as they mean the same thing (did I use the correct term lol?? sorry I'm an engineer not a philosopher). I dont distinguish fact and truth as different things, to me saying a statement is a fact is built on the premise that the statement applies to a real truth. I would say it is a fact that we need oxygen for metabolism and we will die if oxygen isnt supplied to our body. Because this statement is true, then it is thus a factual statement. People believing something to be a fact that is indeed not true then it isnt a fact it is a false belief. If the actual book definition of the word fact is defined as you said it would be a surprise to me but as always I could be wrong...but I thought the whole point of claiming something to be fact was to say it is true

@@a-atheist “Facts are things that are known.” So people KNEW the earth was flat and that made it a fact? How did they KNOW the earth was flat when “in fact” it is round. And without truth, what good are these “facts” anyway?

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it’s almost as if he was a student willing to have a conversation with someone who debates and studies his position for a living

@TheOne-jw6dr this seems like it was a scheduled talk though. Not an impromptu debate.

Right??

Mic drop.

The 3/5 of a person part of the Constitution was actually about protecting free states. In the House of Representatives, the number of Representatives a state has is based on the state's population. The problem was that the slave states wanted to count their slaves as part of the population in order to increase their power in congress--but slaves weren't allowed to vote. That gave slave owners a disproportionate amount of voting power. The 3/5 person aspect was a comprimise, telling the slave states that they were only allowed to count 3/5 of their slaves as part of the general population, so they wouldn't be grossly overrepresented and threaten the free states with enforced federal slavery laws. Tragically, this opened the door to interpretations that were very damaging to alot of people. No one is less than 5/5 of a person.

Kudos for spotting the logical flaw. I hope you also learn the truth of the compromise. You were never 3/5 a person.

And? Explain how that is good or bad

@@dirkjensen969Are academics based on facts or opinions based on evidence? Both. The interpretation of evidence is subjective and not always true and not always false.

or objective reality for that matter

Objective morality means that moral statement P can be true or false If god says P is good, we still can not verify P as being true or false. All we can say is how god feels about P. Proposition "God thinks P is moral" can be true or false while proposition "P is moral" can not

@@whiterussian4498 Do you even know what objective means?

@@slemonman objective means existing independently of human mind. In terms of moral realism objectivity is about moral statemets being true or false regardless of human opinion

@@whiterussian4498 What are you even saying lil bro? How can something objectively based on facts , logic and reasoning be false? Again do you know what objectively means? Issit objectively true that 1+1=2? Can it false somehow?

The issue was in fact pragmatism, the Catholic clergy told believers to subscribe in a dogmatic manner to extra biblical teachings while Protestantism was seeking to restore the divine scriptures as the sole authority of the Christian faith which, btw, is what the Bible is saying where it is written that faith comes from hearing the word of God and when in book of Acts, there were Bereans examinating scriptures to make sure what they heard came from the scriptures. The liberal mindset emphasizes individual freedoms but it turns out to be quite dogmatic or even more so than the Catholic clergy, they have their own woke theology (fluid identities, sin of white priviledge ect.) and simply replaced the pantheon of saints by the scientific community..

@@imspiker3645 Crasstianity and the 95 Faeces - pt1. Poop, Farts, Satan. Martin Lutherfer's Scatology. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TRZ-kIiFjcM.html The Didache and the 1st Century Church pt1, with Sam Shamoun ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3Y8YhZ4_Woc.html&pp=iAQB

The Pope endorses blessing homosexuals. Don't point fingers at Protestantism when your own house is riddled with apostasy.

@@NeonDemon88 modernism heresies doesnt make Luther and Calvin right Crasstianity and the 95 Faeces - pt1. Poop, Farts, Satan. Martin Lutherfer's Scatology. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TRZ-kIiFjcM.html John Calvin - Protestant Gnostic? pt1 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5bfanIbDbV0.html

@@NeonDemon88 well, the Pope may say whatever he wants but he cannot change the Credo or core beliefs. Contrary to Protestants who make up their own little churches and every body ends up believing in anything they want. In the Church there is well established process of what can be changed in the teachings and what cannot. Btw, this deviation first leaked into Protestant churches from the world and then via ecumenical dialogue to the Church. So we are not immune to the the falsehood, but one has to remember where it originated and how.

im a conservative, this dude is genuine. He's just a soul like you trying to figure out wtf is going on

debates are useful though for the audience, especially the audience that is on the fence so to speak, and has not decided which "side" they are on. They will hopefully, see which side makes more sense and go towards that side.