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I’m so glad you guys finally covered this…My favorite era of my favorite performer; completely controversial and outstandingly talented….I was thinking Bruce was afraid of addressing this drama….you guys have gone many years without doing this “obvious” episode.

Shawn Michaels will always be my favorite wrestler, but liked him the most during the 90s.

One of the best episodes Bruce and Conrad have done in a long time.

My favorite era of my all time favorite performer. I do however wish Shawn had gotten to keep wrestling through 98 at least but im grateful he turned his life around and didn't die

Honestly haven’t listened to one of these in a long time, been wanting topics like this. Glad it was a good one. Keep the GOOD content coming

My favorite version of the heartbreak kid

I love how when Shawn and Bret talked about the fight they acted like they both had the upper hand but everyone else says the fight was just pulling each other’s hair.

I was lucky enough to be in HS and at my height of fandom during this time and this was really fun to listen to. And Bruce was actually invested here, one of the best STWs in awhile.

Mid 90's Shawn is just the greatest, to this day nobody has been that good in the ring bell to bell. Guy could have 5 stars with a broomstick.

I’ve been waiting for this episode forever, bittersweet knowing how my favorite era of HBK ends, but the lead up was so fun to watch.

Man I've missed you guys!! Great show.. hope you have to time to do a few more in the near future..

Best STW in a LONG time!!

Rewatching these Raw episodes…. 2/3/97 SM references how hated Muhammad Ali was like himself during his reign and now they refer to him as the GOAT…. Man how right SM was 😂 everyone calls him the GOAT….. 👏🏼 🤘🏼

So glad you guys are back. This is my favorite podcast , I missed Bruce

I think Bruce is lying when he says that Bret wouldn’t have been better in 14. I think Bret losing to Austin at 14 would have been awesome. Not only that Bret might not have got hurt. Also Austin loved Bret and definitely would have rather worked with him.

Alright another brand new episode! Damnit Bruce you finally taking your pills!!!!

I couldn't imagine having the weight of the whole company on your shoulders at that young age. Shawn never gave a bad performance. Even through everything he went through, he still is a legend

Pretty wild to see Shawn and Rock share a stage on Raw: “He only hangs out with main eventers, he’s never been one…”

Best Wrestler Ever. HBK

Good episode I haven't seen one of these in a while

I see the comments about Bret being a cry-baby but I can sympathize w him. He was a loyal employee to Vince for over 12 years & had built up a solid character that the fans loved. Them guys just kept tearing him down a little at a time. It started at WM when they had Bret drop the title to Shawn & then Shawn would refuse to drop it back to him. Then they book Bret to win in the 4-way only to have him lose it almost right away. They never would've done that to Hulk! And think back to when HH refused to drop the belt to Bret after winning it from Yoko, Bret was being pushed aside then too. He never even wanted to leave WWF, Vince pushed him out. I'd be bitter too. And then all of the tragedies, it was one thing after another! Owen passing, Davey Boy passing, the concussion that forced him to retire, the stroke, then his wife leaving him..

The flashling lights put me into some kind of trance

As someone that lived on earth at one point dear reader know that wwf was amazing at one point and they were the best of times. Listening to a producer that was there retell these stories with back stage perspective and real life experience with these huge character's. Bruce and con rad are a awesome team and Shawn Michaels is the greatest performer in the history of 4 corners

Shawn Michaels versus Eddie Guerrero, 2001. It would’ve been beautiful to see the most talented wrestlers from Texas go out it in a program

Shawn Michaels is my favorite wrestler of all time!

All the Tony Khan haters who claim " This would NEVER happen under Vince" should listen to this episode

Shawn Michaels was one of the best pro wrestlers of all time his matches are so legendary there’s no comparing any other wrestler to this guy not a lot of wrestlers can come back after a serious back injury better than ever like he did I was fortunate enough to see some of his matches in person at a house in San Francisco 1996 against Vader at wrestlemania 19 in my hometown of Seattle against Chris Jericho, in 2003 And in a tag match with Randy Orton at Monday night raw in San Jose, California, January 2005

In regards to the "Sunny Days" comment that HBK made towards Bret, I believe that Bret Hart said in his book that Brian Pillman caught it & told Bret about it & the next day Bret's youngest son had asked him "Are you & Ms. Sunny messing around Dad?"

50:59 I'm surprised Connie didn't ask what Pat Patterson thought about it

Love your Pat Patterson impression 🤣\m/

Here's a fact. All wrestlers are trying to get themselves over at all times and it's for life. To say Bret is STILL crying over it is not a true statement. Do ALL wrestlers tend to hold grudges in their personal lives? Yes. Otherwise, we would not be a bit interested in shoot interviews. Do wrestlers understand this? Yes. Does drama get views. Yes. Bret has wholeheartedly forgave Shawn AND Vince. I know this as fact because I talked to Bret personally about his forgiving Hbk and Vince. Admittedly, I do not know him personally but my son and I spent some time with him in Chicago. He was at an event called Days of the dead. I thought it seemed weird until I had thought of the electric chair guy he had in his basement (shown in the Wrestling with Shadows documentary) and talked about his interest in the horror genre and how he didn't have that chair guy anymore but really liked it. Now, with all of that said, Bret has his faults. News flash. They all have their vices just like we do. Even someone like Cena probably has his vices too. I won't speculate. My point to my rant is this. What you see in tv obviously isn't real and I assume you know this. Wrestlers (especially back then) were like carnie grifters. Spend some time around Virgil and you get a great idea of what I'm talking about. Wrestlers are however usually very nice and gracious. Usually. I guess instead of saying all of this I could have just said, before casting stones and hating on one guy but holding this other guy in such high regard, just remember that they ALL have their shit. Just like us and probably you. About an hour after chatting with Bret, we were passing him in the hallway and Bret stopped and scruffed my son's hair and told Colton that he was happy to meet him and hooed to see us again. He may have just been selling for us. It was a kind gesture either way. I would also like to say Shawn Michaels in my opinion was the total package. Shawn is the greatest of all time. He as well has changed for the better. Chris Jericho has said it repeatedly that in order to be great you have to a prick. He may not be a great example because of course he's kind of a prick. I truly believe he's right though. It's a cutthroat business. Rant over. Just maybe not take this stuff so seriously and troll who these people are in real life because they all have their faults. As do you. As do I. They are humans too.

Why would you use a picture of 1996 Shawn Michaels for this?

Great show

Starts at 1:55

Didn't Shawn already have that 2million dollar inheritance from some fan by 95/96? He didn't even care if he got paid for maina 13 mainevent by 97

Ryan Shamrock "slip" at the end lol

Opening with classic Guns n Roses. Awesome!

THE RUMBLE, not Shawn drew that Alamodome show..........brother

still waiting for 2002 -2010. You were to do that couple years ago

I laughed my ass off at 1:19:00 with the Patterson impression

Whats up with the amount of adds here

Nothing, and I mean nothing was better than HBK from 95-98. He kept the damn Lights on at Titan Tower in 96 and that's just a fact. Without Shawn, WWF sinks like the Titanic in 96. The night after Bad Blood was the night Shawn told us all what was coming for 2022, when He said the "Kliq OWNS this Business".

Bret hart took that (crybaby) role serious! Its been 25 yrs an hes still a crybaby now thats some dedication

Is the hell in the cell with taker and Shawn match of the year or is WM13 with Austin and Bret the match of the year. Watching both I still take 13. It was more important with the double turn

I'm glad Shawn had his second run, because it seems like 2/3 of this period is him either being legitimately hurt or potentially faking being hurt. And the other 1/3 is him being a cancer in the locker room. During this whole era, I was squarely on Bret's side and just found him obnoxious.

Has anyone here ever had lunch with Pancho Villa?

"when i say 'sure it was' i meant yes and no" 😝

It’s almost impossible to follow with all of the commercials

There were Scottish guys defending the Alamo too.

Shawn just didn't have the maturity to be a long running champion.

While maybe not same degree as Memphis riot but I was at a Nitro at Nassau Coliseum when Warrior was there, fans were just unruly and esp at the end of night we couldn’t even watch the main event because more concerned about being hit with trash by fans. Fast forward to WWF Raw at Coliseum night of Austin pouring concrete into Vince Corvette. Fans far better and spoke with some security that night and they said many told management they would never work a WCW event if they came back

I'm sorry but anybody who thinks that primadonna, striptease Chippendale, flippy I should have been an acrobat in a circus thinks that Shawn Michaels is the greatest of all time is just absolutely delusional. I understand it's an opinion and a matter of perspective but Shawn Michaels did not know how to WRESTLE!! He didn't know an arm bar from a candy bar just watch his matches and see how uncomfortable he was when he had to put on wrestling holds and maneuvers. Was he athletic and was he able to do jumps and flips? Absolutely not denying that. But to be the greatest you need to also be able to carry the company on your back which he was unable to do so. He is a tag team specialist and he had to ask Gerald Briscoe how to perform wrestling holds and Maneuvers cuz he was afraid Bret Hart was going to kick his ass after the Montreal screw job. Great performer but not the GOAT!! Not by a long shot!! Anybody who thinks that Shawn Michaels is better than Bret Hart, Steve austin, Ric Flair, Undertaker and there are a million more names I want to mention but last but certainly not least and the man who truly did make wrestling what it is today Hulk Hogan, Shawn Michaels could be anybody's favorite but stop it with him saying he's the GOAT!!

2:06:00 I love that Shawn got humbled big time over the next 4 years watching Austin take WWE to the F'ing moon!

Finally!

Bret Hart didn’t do any business either and he didn’t have the NW fucking O on the other channel in the middle of his reign either

Shawn Michaels never drew a dime! 💵💰🤦👎...

58:38 this is why I have no respect for Dave. He time and time again over the years only gives you half of the truth to fit a narrative he wants to tell. To sit here and say that it was HBK’s fault that in June 1996 they started losing to WCW in the ratings but before that when Brett was the champion it was fine, if you telling Mark today that wasn’t watching back then he would say “well the numbers are there in the numbers don’t lie”…. That’s true to a point until you tell the entire story and then Dave just looks like a Mark that hates HBK, and I’m not saying HBK was perfect by any means but Dave conveniently leaves out that there was something else very big that happened in June 201996 in the wrestling world. This is when Scott and Kevin walk out on nitro and start the NWL. If it had been the other way around and HBK was The champion for the first half of the year and then Brett won the belt at the end of April Dave would move heaven and earth to make sure everyone understood it wasn’t his fault that’s when the NWO angle started and by the way Brett would win the belt again in the next calendar year and guess what….. they still didn’t be WCW in the ratings because it had nothing to do with who the champion of the WWF is. Anyone that uses that argument during this time frame to make certain wrestlers look bad to fit a narrative is someone that only uses half truths.

Conrad is right, when Brett started berating Vince McMahon, he was speaking to him as the owner of the WWF, I don't know what Bruce Prichard is talking about, he might as well had agreed with Conrad because he talkin out his butt with that answer 😂, just like when Kevin Nash lost the title to Brett and he came out on Monday night raw approach Vince McMahon with that work shoot, talkin about all the weight with all his his back because this one him to go corporate,

HE CALLED BRUCE DADDY

Funny that Bruce says it didn't have anything to do with the USA Network and it had to deal with the PTC but yeah his boss, Triple H goes on an interview talking about that and clearly admits it was the USA Network ................. COME ON BRUUUUUUUUUUUCE

To me the summer slam 97- royal rumble 98 was my favorite run of HBK’s career. He was the perfect heel and DX was the perfect faction for him. However, as much as I love Shawn, I’ve never understood WHY he got away with so much . He was never a HUGE draw , he never carried the company, he was not THE guy you went to see like taker , hogan , bret , or flair was . Mostly people just talk about “what a great worker “ he was . I know he was but there were plenty more that were just as good if not better that never got away with the stuff he pulled

Maybe we could add some more commercial breaks???? Every 5 minutes is not enough!!! Beyond Obnoxious

bret rules 🤣🤣🤣

Lol bruce said steve liked shawn back then at 2:13:00 steve austin said in multiple interviews and even to his face he didnt like hbk back then

Where is rock 2000 you promised 2 years ago you guys promised?

I see Bruce's Pro Shawn bias is still as evident as ever. I thought that might have cooled off over the years of him doing this podcast but nope...he's still head of the HBK super fan club with Vince 😂😂

Bruce is dodgy as ever in regards to answering honestly. Show was a bit better when he wasn't working for them.

People thought hogan was bad backstage, Shawn Michaels is the poster child for being a cry baby/ political backstage

Shawn and Vince definitely had sexual relations.

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Shawn didn`t draw as champ in 96.

Drugged up HBK > ANYBODY in history

Wish Shawn went to WCW in 97 and Bret stayed in the WWF.

Shawn wasn't Championship material in 96 and 97. Farooq, Vader, Goldust and Mankind were all better candidates.

hbk fell flat on his face as champion the ratings sucked his awful reign almost put vince out of business

DX really was garbage.

Chat me up

vince is a loyal guy and honor his word to pay shawn..... really bruce? where was that for Bret? more on

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