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SU-100Y vs PANTHER | 130mm Naval Cannon on a 1940 Tank | SAPHE Armour Penetration Simulation 

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The Soviet SU-100Y was a prototype self-propelled gun, armed with a 130mm naval cannon. While designed to defeat fortifications, the simulation presents the impact of its 130mm SAPHE projectile against the upper glacis of a Panther, from 1.5km.
While the Panther entered service a fair bit later than the SU-100Y, the 870m/s velocity of the 130mm gun would completely overmatch the Panzer IIIs and IVs of the era (so the panther was chosen to make a more interesting simulation). The Panther's upper glacis has been modelled as 80mm thick, 250BHN steel of decent quality. The projectile has the explosive material modelled but it does not detonate, as SAPHE uses a delayed detonation, which would fail in this case due to projectile destruction. This specific projectile is technically Semi-Armour-Piercing High-Explosive Capped Ballistic-Capped (SAPHE-CBC).
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@SYsimulations
@SYsimulations 10 месяцев назад
Crazy to imagine a German Panzer III crew coming around a street corner in 1941 Moscow and looking down the barrel of this thing. *Although I doubt this ever happened as it was most likely used for artillery/anti-fortifications
@ivan5595
@ivan5595 10 месяцев назад
They would be sent to heaven
@Phapchamp
@Phapchamp 10 месяцев назад
@@ivan5595 *hell
@shadowsteel6050
@shadowsteel6050 10 месяцев назад
In Moscow? Your ww2 knowledge is very strange
@jintsuubest9331
@jintsuubest9331 10 месяцев назад
​@@shadowsteel6050 Battle of Moscow?
@dragonbutt
@dragonbutt 10 месяцев назад
Supposedly the Su100Y prototype got used during the defense of moscow, though it was likely going to be a panzer IV crew that got absolutely blown the fk up lmao
@GerardMenvussa
@GerardMenvussa 10 месяцев назад
This is clearly at the advantage of the Panther crew. Now they have better ventilation and the driver has excellent visibility forward.
@irirjhrhr4645
@irirjhrhr4645 10 месяцев назад
yeah uh but there might be a problem, there is no crew
@tommeakin1732
@tommeakin1732 10 месяцев назад
This is clearly showing das über smarts of German mind. They knew they didn't need to add more fans for the crew or better periscopes for the driver, as they planned on having a 130mm hole plugged through the front plate. You played right into their hands, Soviets. German forethought truly is a stunning thing. 4D chess here.
@akiko009
@akiko009 10 месяцев назад
Exactly. Except you must mean the next crew that needs to clean up the remains of the first. But the extra ventilation will definitely help keep the odors at bay...
@Kevin-hx2ky
@Kevin-hx2ky 10 месяцев назад
Perhaps not so when it's winter...but actually, the explosive filling will probably heat them up very well when it cooks off, so Checkmate Commies!
@standard-carrier-wo-chan
@standard-carrier-wo-chan 10 месяцев назад
Unfortunately, I'm quite sure the driver will experience a significant emotional event
@azeke8
@azeke8 10 месяцев назад
With a post-penetration like this, there is no need for the explosive to go off.
@megakek228
@megakek228 5 месяцев назад
2kg of TNT is useless)
@whilliamblamet187
@whilliamblamet187 10 месяцев назад
Probably the most astonishing thing I learnt from this video is that that monstrous prototype saw combat. Now I wanna learn more about its feats.
@nbond-hd5db
@nbond-hd5db 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, and it saw combat before the Panther and the Tiger even existed. Imagine that hitting a Panzer 4, 3 or even 2
@dragonbutt
@dragonbutt 10 месяцев назад
Its one of the few prototypes we know saw combat during the defense of moscow. The thing is, there were a _lot_ of prototypes that could have also been used, but the history is too hazy and few documents survived, so who knows what _else_ went blasting at the germans that day.
@NotTheCIA1961
@NotTheCIA1961 10 месяцев назад
​@@dragonbuttLegend has it that the KV-2-2-2 fought that campaign and was never heard from again.
@dragonbutt
@dragonbutt 10 месяцев назад
@@NotTheCIA1961 some say its still driving straight toward berlin
@diooverheaven6561
@diooverheaven6561 10 месяцев назад
I don't know it's feats but i can tell you that it was built on t-100 chasis that got knocked out during winter war
@nul_point
@nul_point 10 месяцев назад
That's a psychological weapon. Imagine as a commander of a Pz. IV seeing the neighboring tank just _b_ _e_ _g_ _o_ _n_ _e._
@trololoev
@trololoev 10 месяцев назад
it once have place in Sevastopol where battleship gun hit german tank with training shell
@ЮраСидоров-т4э
@ЮраСидоров-т4э 8 месяцев назад
@@trololoev ... and he just delit from really world.
@ЮраСидоров-т4э
@ЮраСидоров-т4э 8 месяцев назад
@@trololoev ... and he just delit from really world.
@trololoev
@trololoev 8 месяцев назад
@@ЮраСидоров-т4э this is exactly what happened. This is 35-th battery, german called it Maxim Gorky
@tokencivilian8507
@tokencivilian8507 10 месяцев назад
When you gouge a hole that big and fling that much material behind the armor, lack of explosion isn't an issue when it comes to effectiveness. I suspect the Panther crew would be having a bad day. 🙂
@Klovaneer
@Klovaneer 10 месяцев назад
you mean they would have a significant emotional event
@yasseralwash7127
@yasseralwash7127 10 месяцев назад
Or just orange
@sinisterthoughts2896
@sinisterthoughts2896 10 месяцев назад
I dunno.. in a few milliseconds they aren't going to have anything to worry about anymore.
@4T3hM4kr0n
@4T3hM4kr0n 10 месяцев назад
love when large cannons simply have the mass of the projectile that it ends up absolutley wrecking the armor.
@col.firefly
@col.firefly 10 месяцев назад
The B-13 was first mounted on the Gnevny class destroyers and remained the standard Soviet destroyer main battery for the entirety of WW2.
@juusolatva
@juusolatva 10 месяцев назад
SU-100Y was originally meant to destroy fortifications during the Winter War, but the war ended before it was deployed and it wasn't really needed either, since the Soviets eventually broke through anyway. the Finnish fortifications on the Mannerheim Line were nowhere near as great as the propaganda made them to be, although they did manage to slow down the Soviets, but that was also due to the favourable terrain in general among other things.
@tranquoccuong890-its-orge
@tranquoccuong890-its-orge 10 месяцев назад
not to mentioned the Soviets already has KV-2's 152mm howitzer for anti-fortification role, using concrete piercing shell
@Mr.Mr.H
@Mr.Mr.H 9 месяцев назад
Calm down, the author specially made a range of 1500 meters
@oz314
@oz314 10 месяцев назад
Squash armour piercing high explosive round? Sounds perfectly soviet
@TotallyNot_PatrickBateman
@TotallyNot_PatrickBateman 10 месяцев назад
😂
@crispy_338
@crispy_338 10 месяцев назад
Most countries fielded some sort of SAPHE, especially on ships
@mrregik
@mrregik 10 месяцев назад
Its against naval targets
@cactuslietuva
@cactuslietuva 10 месяцев назад
naval gun with naval ammo. besides with this kind calibre he will rekt any ground target with direct hit even if it doesn't pen
@ivan5595
@ivan5595 10 месяцев назад
Making shells "squishy" is a Italian thing
@death_walker21
@death_walker21 10 месяцев назад
i mean its a 130mm on a 80mm plate even at 55 deg of its gonna pen
@Ghostmaxi1337
@Ghostmaxi1337 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, either way that would wreck it.
@rykehuss3435
@rykehuss3435 10 месяцев назад
Yeah I just saw those stats and knew it was going to penetrate.
@sskuk1095
@sskuk1095 Месяц назад
Yeah, but look at the range!
@SpruceReduce8854
@SpruceReduce8854 10 месяцев назад
I'm guessing SAPHE is just APHE with more explosive filler then?
@queerthing3028
@queerthing3028 10 месяцев назад
Yes, and with less penetration.
@denihrustemovic1409
@denihrustemovic1409 10 месяцев назад
yeah, but it has thiner walls of the projectile so the penetration is way lower but in war thunder it says that su 100 y has 202mm armor penetration on flat angle and maybe 80 or 90 with 60° angled plate
@KekusMagnus
@KekusMagnus 9 месяцев назад
its a hybrid between APHE and HE. It's designed to detonate and nuke everyone inside whatever it penetrates
@DoggosGames
@DoggosGames 7 месяцев назад
SAPHE is APHE but made out of mild steel not expensive high carbon steel, as well as having more filler and thinner walls.
@ИванЛисин-ъ6й
@ИванЛисин-ъ6й 10 месяцев назад
Так мало того что пробило , там ещё около кило взрывчатки
@srg.graphouni6628
@srg.graphouni6628 9 месяцев назад
2,5 кг вроде, даже ближе к 3.
@ЮраСидоров-т4э
@ЮраСидоров-т4э 8 месяцев назад
@@srg.graphouni6628 2.1
@sat1810
@sat1810 3 месяца назад
Киску бы разорвало
@S1su
@S1su 10 месяцев назад
Make a bullet slide icochet smoothly off of a smooth dent on a tank’s turret or hull. So the shell uses it as like a ramp. Or in Other words, try to make as long ricochet mark on a tank as possible
@malteschaper3782
@malteschaper3782 10 месяцев назад
Somehow I imagine this thing takes forever to load and is not that accurate. How reliable the tank itself was, I don't know either but doubt it. But that gun. That thing is impressive. I would love to see it against a tougher opponent like the King Tiger.
@ivan5595
@ivan5595 10 месяцев назад
Well given the biggest gun mounted on a tank in Moscow 1941 was a "little" 76mm, I imagine that this gun would be *slightly* more accurate than the average gun.
@Ml114n
@Ml114n 10 месяцев назад
It was a naval gun which are typically fired from much larger distances than tank guns and thus cannot be inaccurate or they'd be worthless. As for loading, consider it provides standing space for two loaders; might be unwieldy, but gives you lot more room to work than an average tank or SPG.
@malteschaper3782
@malteschaper3782 10 месяцев назад
@@Ml114n Thanks for the thoughts!
@Klovaneer
@Klovaneer 10 месяцев назад
It's a naval gun so it's incredibly accurate. However it still was a naval gun complete with the naval stand simply bolted onto the floor so that made SU-100Y incredibly big and heavy.
@zoro115-s6b
@zoro115-s6b 10 месяцев назад
The tank itself was not reliable, the chassis was from the T-100, a soviet prototype heavy tank similar to the SMK. It generally did poorly with trials, so they ended up removing the turrets and replacing them with a superstructure and this massive naval gun. I don't believe that the SU-100Y was ever intended to be a model for production vehicles, rather I think they were testing the general feasibility of mounting the 130mm gun on a tank. However, desperate circumstances did lead to it seeing combat.
@andrewyaden5209
@andrewyaden5209 9 месяцев назад
This is at 1500 yards, I can't imagine under 500
@raketny_hvost
@raketny_hvost 10 месяцев назад
significal emotiant evel
@S1su
@S1su 10 месяцев назад
Do a triple bounce simulation. It might be essiest on the IS
@petrkdn8224
@petrkdn8224 10 месяцев назад
and war thunder players will say russian tanks got insane angled pen buffs.. its not because its russian, its because russia mainly fielded large caliber guns, 122, 152 etc.
@Klovaneer
@Klovaneer 10 месяцев назад
well WT doesn't simulate armor gouging and flex, otherwise they would have to expand their servers tenfold, so maybe it's how they compensated
@petrkdn8224
@petrkdn8224 10 месяцев назад
@xDSqxRazoRx overmatch exists irl anyway, I don't think a 5mm plate at 85° could shrug off a 50kg AP shell
@goyslop4289
@goyslop4289 10 месяцев назад
Here I am with my 122 bouncing off m41s mantlet edge.
@Klovaneer
@Klovaneer 10 месяцев назад
@@goyslop4289 get volumetred lmao dab etc
@christians.597
@christians.597 9 месяцев назад
Every APHEBC has the same modifier, which outperforms some APFSDS at angles. Size doesn't matter, even the 57mm has better performance at very high angle than a 128mm APCBC ..
@sensor3dd
@sensor3dd 8 месяцев назад
In war thunder it goes clean through and detonates in the middle of the tank, overpressuring everything
@sktt1-blitz852
@sktt1-blitz852 10 месяцев назад
Could you do 140mm APFSDS vs 130 vs 120 ?
@5co756
@5co756 10 месяцев назад
Tiger 2 UFP would be more interesting , than a Panther UFP . This was going to pen anyways .
@ivan5595
@ivan5595 10 месяцев назад
Probably won't perforate, you need a super powerful 152mm for this
@ushikiii
@ushikiii 10 месяцев назад
​@@ivan5595I doubt that will be enough but I don't know.
@jonaslavicka2411
@jonaslavicka2411 10 месяцев назад
@@ushikiiithere is a video of that, Tiger 2 UFP vs BL-10 APHE experimental soviet high-velocity 152, fitted to the prototype ISU-152-2
@ushikiii
@ushikiii 10 месяцев назад
@@jonaslavicka2411 ah. Ig he never specified the 152mm in question. I was thinking of the one actually fielded in ww2.
@jonaslavicka2411
@jonaslavicka2411 10 месяцев назад
@@ushikiii yeah, no gun fielded could pen the tiger II UFP
@combinero.YT_deletes_comments.
@combinero.YT_deletes_comments. 10 месяцев назад
Panther is too light armoured, I would like to see this shell against more armoured tanks such as king tiger.
@chuckythecat9894
@chuckythecat9894 10 месяцев назад
It would be cool to see the effect of the anti heat flaps that some cold war russian tanks had vs a heat or even an apfsds round
@SimplePachWT
@SimplePachWT Месяц назад
War thunder: "non-pen"
@t10god
@t10god 10 месяцев назад
Does this hurt the tank?
@ivan5595
@ivan5595 10 месяцев назад
It hurts neither the feelings of the tank or the crew
@andthenhedead6076
@andthenhedead6076 10 месяцев назад
@@ivan5595bruh it sent a blast of shrapnel into the tank
@Kevin-hx2ky
@Kevin-hx2ky 10 месяцев назад
Don't worry, it and the driver didn't feel a thing
@giovannilemos8109
@giovannilemos8109 8 месяцев назад
Idk about the tank, but the driver didn't feel a thing.... ...while he was vaporized
@napatt.4681
@napatt.4681 9 месяцев назад
Is it possible to stimulate an armor being shot at the same location of the armor after being shot twice?
@ToBop257
@ToBop257 8 месяцев назад
where do you take these penetration test? I really wanted to try it out myself :D
@МихаилМ-ц9д
@МихаилМ-ц9д 10 месяцев назад
Spitfire vs 20-mm HE (MG-151)
@The_Jorkie2K
@The_Jorkie2K 8 месяцев назад
Su-100Y that time gonna punch through every vehicles like Panzer III, Panzer IV and not Panther front armor
@animationenusw
@animationenusw 5 месяцев назад
You really underestimate the caliber to armor thickness ratio
@Redduck_XD
@Redduck_XD 10 месяцев назад
Day 1: Commission animate a T34-85 Shell hitting the left side armor of the tiger 1 E turret
@oz314
@oz314 8 месяцев назад
How does it fare against the tiger 2 H upper plate?
@TitaAguirreGarcia
@TitaAguirreGarcia 10 месяцев назад
Can you send a link to where I can find this??
@mranderson9318
@mranderson9318 6 месяцев назад
Почему нет взрыва снаряда, это же бронебойно фугасный снаряд.
@rkadi6540
@rkadi6540 10 месяцев назад
Ah yes, the neckless fridge
@Gpo6-gj5sg
@Gpo6-gj5sg 10 месяцев назад
what is the name of this program
@PeaceThunderChannel
@PeaceThunderChannel 10 месяцев назад
Вар тандер так не думает
@Scoobydcs
@Scoobydcs 10 месяцев назад
Have you done a 15 or 16 inch naval gun against a tank?
@claudiovic9883
@claudiovic9883 10 месяцев назад
Someone made yamato vs sherman or panzer if im not mistaken
@claudiovic9883
@claudiovic9883 10 месяцев назад
Yamato vs is-7
@sasin2715
@sasin2715 4 месяца назад
Gaijin: best i can do is Hit 30 sl 10 rp
@bannanaa8557
@bannanaa8557 10 месяцев назад
ความเป็นจริงมันอาจจะเจาะไม่ง่ายอย่างที่คิดก่ได้ มันอยู่ที่องศาการยิงของรถ หรือระยะห่างจากการยิง
@Sam-tw1zt
@Sam-tw1zt 7 месяцев назад
Мой дед заканчивал войну на Т34-85, дважды горел. Но СУ100 хвалил😹
@ledricelektronika6635
@ledricelektronika6635 10 месяцев назад
*hit*
@KOBAN291
@KOBAN291 8 месяцев назад
Снаряд сделан из песка
@danielabely2879
@danielabely2879 10 месяцев назад
if u want to make more good vid try to make a english subtitle
@Imperator3838
@Imperator3838 10 месяцев назад
Subtitles are in upper part of video.
@rjutomat3658
@rjutomat3658 6 месяцев назад
По какому принципу выбирается дистанция выстрела?
@uncannyvalley3190
@uncannyvalley3190 6 месяцев назад
In the description the shot is simulated to have come from 1.5km away 😭. That’s a crazy shot for any WWII tank.
@rjutomat3658
@rjutomat3658 6 месяцев назад
@@uncannyvalley3190 в том и дело. Почему каждый раз выбираются какие-то странные дистанции для симуляции?
@Николай-ы3н7щ
@Николай-ы3н7щ 10 месяцев назад
Пантера форева!!!
@pedror598
@pedror598 10 месяцев назад
That kills the tank
@pleer_2011.
@pleer_2011. 9 месяцев назад
Мда красиво все зделано но есть одна небольшая проблемка в 1941 партер еще не существовало
@Glina135-uh7ps
@Glina135-uh7ps 7 месяцев назад
А причем тут 1941год?
@pleer_2011.
@pleer_2011. 7 месяцев назад
@@Glina135-uh7ps перепутал. Спс чел
@pleer_2011.
@pleer_2011. 7 месяцев назад
Вообще 1940
@AGWittmann
@AGWittmann 10 месяцев назад
Wonder, why they didnt use this gun for their late war tanks like the IS-2, IS-3 or SU-100 etc.
@PyromaN93
@PyromaN93 10 месяцев назад
Too heavy, too big recoil, big shells and casings, very long (for a tank) recoil dictance and finally - not big amount of shells in the army storages, since it is a naval gun. It was kinda fixed after WWII, when in the base of this gun was created new special tank guns.
@ИванЛисин-ъ6й
@ИванЛисин-ъ6й 10 месяцев назад
А смысл, ведь было орудие 122мм, которое прекрасно делоло свое дело, было орудие 100мм, что тоже очень неплохо с танками боролось
@PyromaN93
@PyromaN93 10 месяцев назад
@@ИванЛисин-ъ6й 122 и 100 все же были объективно слабее, так что тому же ИС-7 расщедрились на 130мм.
@ИванЛисин-ъ6й
@ИванЛисин-ъ6й 10 месяцев назад
@@PyromaN93 это уже как эксперимент орудие, а так 122мм было лучше, и плюс позже появилось 115мм орудие, которое все шатало
@PyromaN93
@PyromaN93 10 месяцев назад
@@ИванЛисин-ъ6й Д-25Т не было лучше. Просто объективно не было возможности особо перебирать. Это орудие военных ни во время войны, ни после не устраивало. А У-5ТС вообще другого поля ягода
@MikeHunt-rw4gf
@MikeHunt-rw4gf 10 месяцев назад
Algorithm.
@Z_M210
@Z_M210 8 месяцев назад
what is this game
@g_nj
@g_nj 5 месяцев назад
Wotb nah you cant
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