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why he is looking so angry? did he invest in su 57

More like poorly informed...

Something unbiased about a foreign plane? Finally.

We must reach D6 Artyom

He’s Russian. How could he be unbiased? Lols. Jk. Kinda.

Finally no propaganda

Yeah, he does use a robot voice for parts.

This paint scheme calls 'pixel paint' and is dedicated to cause visual distortion of the hull to obstruct recognition and distance estimation.

The darker grey center painted section looks like a Su27 outline. Sneaky!

@@lx5896 The darker grey center painted section looks like a Su27 outline. Sneaky!

@@keirfarnum6811 I was thinking the same thing

If looks were all that mattered it would be the ultimate fighter plane

Nah, 57 wing looks oversized, it just doesn't feel right unlike the other Su

but they are the Indians, the American native ppl got called Indians cuz a spanish due sailed the wrong way and found NA :P

​@@NiclasHorn Correct. And since the Native Americans were never actually Indian, in the US calling them that is associated with ignorance and bigotry. Despite this, they're still often referred to as 'Indians', especially by our textbooks. There's also a lot of cultural appropriation (dressing up like a chief) stereotypes (geronimo!) and fake history (thanksgiving). Because of all this, I've never actually heard the actual Indians referred to as 'the Indians', only Native Americans. But all this has changed in recent years. Most mainstream media now refers to them as 'Native Americans'. So it's been a very long time since I've actually heard the phrase 'the Indians'. So hearing it from this guy just awakened some kind of long buried fight or flight response.

Yes that would be the correct term.

@@Jay2JayGaming I call them indians

@@NiclasHorn wasent it Columbus? He was trying to sail to India and found the Careebian Islands thats why they are called the West Indies.

Yes, I know my enemies! They're the teachers who taught me to fight me! Compromise! Conformity! Assimilation! Submission! Ignorance! Hypocrisy! Brutality! The elite! All of which are American dreams! All of which are American dreams! (Rage Against The Machine - Know Your Enemy) Nationalism is so lame. We all have the same enemy regardless of descent or allegiance to country and flag. It's the Big Business that wants war, and wants world's governments and peoples to see each other as enemies in order to advance that goal.

Ok but hold up a second ? I’m yank and I love F-22’s and Su-57’s. But look we’re not really enemies. This current administration went back to business as usual but the fact of the matter is Russia isn’t our enemy. The Cold War doesn’t need to continue the way it was. In fact the 10,000 lb gorilla in the room isn’t our rivalry from Soviet era. Why can’t we move past it? As soon as Biden took office he started blindly blaming Russia for shit that was ludicrous. Not all Americans even believe Russia is an enemy. I love Russian firearms. I literally own multiple AK’s, tokarev’s and Makarov’s. Russia is not the problem! Isn’t it interesting the second this blabbering idiot became President Russia suddenly became the enemy again ? For no apparent reason or any evidence ? God man, the Soviet Union is the past. I was hoping US and Russian relations would improve unfortunately this dementia induced moron was “ elected” and the table instantly flipped on Russia. I don’t buy it. Many of us with brains in the states don’t. Also you have every right to protect your access to the Mediterranean in Syria. Anyone with brains here knows the truth about Assad and why our idiot moron President “accidentally” left the Taliban with all of this high equipment. It’s a lie, it wasn’t an intelligence mistake. It’s another bulllshit isis move but on a larger scale. Russia will destroy the Taliban anyways …it seems so wrong and deceitful and I would be pissed if I was Russian. A lot of Americans know that we have zero business sticking our nose in Syria and what happened in Afghanistan is another disgusting attempt to do the obvious. We are sorry that this even happened and we are so beyond disgusted that the Taliban scored American weapons like this. If the Taliban comes to fuck with Russia in Syria then send em quickly to hell. God be with you and fuck the new world order.

@@timkc1638 its an enemy in terms of competition. it's those sweet export sales, Hulu and Netflix aren't at war but they do compete. the us will never go to war with Russia or any neer peer country, but will an export f35 ever meet an export su-57? maybe, that's a lot more likely. old guy flipped the table on the russians bc the 2016 election meddling has left a bad taste in the mouth of the dems(remember that), they know the union is dead but that won't help us-russia relations. the outgoing bigT was very chummy with the russians bc they helped in his election and the new bigT hotel in Moscow. the recent good relations are fueled by these personal connections without the interests of the country in mind. there are good reasons why the relations should not be good. 1. it's ruled by a president for life political despot limiting freedoms 2. and also the Russians support the other qazi dictatorships that sprung up around the dissolution of the union exa. Lukashenko. 3. the annexation of land from a us ally, the annexation of Crimea 2014. 4. the aforementioned election meddling. did you just forget all of this, or willfully disregarding it?

​@@TheHallucinati Any Big Business that is focussed on civil goods has a natural interest in foreign markets and its shares, so it make no sense to blame mindlessly Big Business as the evil. Its rather the defense sectors who live off fear mongering and mindless campains. And of course the US has by far the largest and most powerfull defense sector in the world which eats up about 15% of the annual budget of this country. The reason why its so powerfull is that many different interest groups depend on it so it has a very strong lobby. The american supremacy doctrine was originally inventet to ensure free trade, multilateralism in as many regions in the world as possible, backed by a strong military. But this system is highly corrupted and has lost its original goal out of sight.

@@TheHallucinati you're close. You are following the money at least. Maybe some day you'll follow it all the way to the source, and get past the flunkies competing for the money.

When he says that Russia is ahead in many technologies did he mean getting shot down technology?

That’s a great show.

In a clamp? What does that test? Durability against structural integrity/rigidity? Thanks. EDIT: I found the episode…thanks brother! Great series. Great info AND media! 🙏

Well, 'Combat Approved' is an ultra biased program to say the least. Is like the RT of the Russian weapons media outlet. 🤔🙄

@@pixsilvb9638 yes, but 2 things. First, all nations produce heavy loads of propaganda. Second, they still show military equipment and factories, etc. Find me a documentary that's unbiased on any military hardware... "best fighter in the world" "bla, bla. Yeah, it's all propaganda. But, dosent change that they don't get good footage now and again.

@@stephensanford5273 "Good footage" of staged propaganda demos? Okay, but that's a strange definition of "good footage" by most standards. At least wait until the plane exists before you start making imaginary claims about what it can do.

@@mingouczjcz3800 And.....You're in the wrong reply buddy. He only stated his opinion about the looks of the aircraft, not the performance of the aircraft. Basically, you're the dumbass.

Mingoucz jcz: lol

It is still big, but performance figures do match, and Aerodynamically, it is way better than an F-35

@@Gunni1972 Oh, no doubt. If the F-35 gets in a turning dogfight with this beast, it won't last long. That's why F-35 will employ hit and run tactics and shoot these planes down before they even know they've been tracked and locked. Or they'll just direct F-15EX to fire a mountain of AIM-260 missiles at it.

What are you talking about, speckle? The F 35 can’t even lift up without the Russians knowledge. Yeah, hit and run, famous by the Americans. How about destroy Hospitals,Schools, civilian life’s than run? The Us education system tried not to teach history, in the last 100 yrs. So, they don’t know what happened with The Roman Empire. Bases all over the world = defeat and run, of course. The Russians have the best radar system, very mobile and can be one day here and the other day there, without our knowledge. Of course satellites can see everything from space, but just as long, they are able to see. Don’t forget, a few months ago, over Russian territory a US spy satellite got blinded, and silenced, so now it’s just space junk! So my friend, hit and run was working in mid evil times. And I’m not saying that Russians are invisible, no way. But todays electronic warfare is a way more successful than hit and run and dropping bombs. So Before the call comes “ gentleman’s start your engine “ every F 35 will be unable to do that, and no matter which part of the world they are stored!!!!

YIKES! LOLOLOL!!!!!

@@Gunni1972 Today the first fighter that see's its opponent wins! That were F-35 excels in it's situational awareness is yrs ahead of Su-57.

Look at the standard of Iraqi Asad Babyl tank Saddams military used, compare it to T-72B model 1989, and the difference is stunning: it's essentially different tanks.

Agreed... makes for a more enjoyable experience to avid military aviation buffs (maybe not so much for mere mortals though).

Yes

But even with that, how you explain by today Russia have hyper-sonic missiles that even plane, the most stealthy submarines, the best armor in tanks, the best vectorial engine, and the best IA anti-missile complex like TOR series, best electronic warfare equipment, you need to add these variables to the equation when you compare the nations, and I'm really sure, Russia is most powerful today than all NATO countries together, they prove it, they are better in all (sky, ocean, ground and space), but, this is the most perfect content for you, right?, because at the end, always finalize in what you want to hear, but believe me, that is not the reality. Sorry, but to pin your bubble, Russia by today is by far the most advanced country in the world besides China, and you will see soon, when Russia crush a NATO country and UK and USA run away betraying them by scar. It is incredibly how a TV shows or analysis by non-professional people convince you my friend. REPEAT WITH ME "A country who creates technology impossible to create by other nations is SUPERIOR to those nations in scientific knowledge", again "A country who creates technology impossible to create by other nations is SUPERIOR to those nations in scientific knowledge", as a kid go to make a plane and put this phrase 50 times

So true. Did you know that the vacuum cleaner he talks to is developed and built in Russia?

Yeah...(but) Sure, Russian engineers managed to create & stick huge engines with even more power than rest of world since Cold War, YET they were known to have & have huge reliability and power limitations compared to NATO industries ones. Short lifespan and limitations = low readiness. I've seen & even disassembled latest Tumansky for Mig-21 & 29.

"soon" 😂

@@MM-zd6wf Well, even as it stands now, the 57 does not lack power. And they don't even need to get 40k out of one engine. Even 35k per engine will result in a REALLY good power output of 70k lbs thurst.

More than power, reliability is another huge concern. You'd be lucky to milk 2,000 hours out of those Russian engines. The MTBO (Meantime between outages) is 1,000 hours vs. 6,000 hours for F-35/22. With hotter temps comes less reliability. So the reliability of SU-57 and the long-term costs associated are concerning as well.

ME-262 -- 2000 lbs x 2 A-4 -- 8000 lbs

Excellent point. Western fighters are largely neutered by the opposition's threat of the use of strategic nuclear weapons.

Too many acronyms. I work in technology and anything can become unrecognizable because of the overuse of acronyms. DYGWIM?

The SU-57 is a real viable combat aircraft, the F-22 is a lemon that was intended to be a viable combat aircraft. Only try to have a discussion about military Aircraft with any American, and you'll be shocked how unaware they really are. They all talk endless rubbish, and so much so, they even start to believe their own rubbish. It makes no difference if you show them, or explain to them, or even go through it in detail with them?. You can conclusively prove things to these people, and they'll ignore it, and carry on saying the same thing. Even when they've just been shown, and had something proven to them, something that they were completely wrong about, makes no difference at all. Nope, they'll just deny it, or ignore it, seriously, you can talk to them about any military hardware at all, and you'll always come to find, they actually know nothing about any of it. And when you point things out to them, things that they've so obviously just dreamt up in their own head, all you'll then get back, is a few lines of remedial illegible rubbish. But you'll then see them somewhere else, repeating what they already know to be complete rubbish. Honestly, you could not make it up. If people could think for themselves today, they'd all be questioning why the USA made a point of announcing they've made it illegal to sell the F-22. The USA seemingly want it believed it's because it's so good, they don't want anyone else to have it. But, that makes no sense at all, because the reality is, they've no idea what's around the corner in technology terms, and with the speed we're seeing new military tactical hardware being created today, It could well of made great sense to sell the F-22 at some stage. (If it actually works). There's another reason the USA would make a point of announcing they've made it illegal to sell the F-22, that people seem to neglect today. And that's, If it doesn't work, If it is as I suspect it is, a lemon, and if the USA have then used the F-22 as a propaganda aircraft, then what better way of preventing anyone else from finding out that it actually doesn't work, and is really a lemon, a failure, than making it illegal to sell? The only possible way to explain that stunt, of the USA announcing they've now made it illegal to sell the F-22, can only be because it's a propaganda aircraft, a failure! They've even trashed all the infrastructure they had in place to build more of them. If it worked, they'd have been able to recoup much of the resources spent on the aircraft, in its entirety. You can think about it as much as you like, that is the only real possible reason the USA would do that. Absolutely no doubt about it, I guarantee we'll never see the F-22 involved in any sort of war scenario or any major sortie, as it's basically junk. Typical US propaganda, usually consists of silly falsehoods and fake misinformation claims, like the F-15, is said to be unbeaten in A2A combat? It's true, only when we look at every aircraft shot down by an F-15?, we find that none had any capabilities to offer anything offensive, and most had little if anything defensive, many without even a basic radar? Meaning, you'd be absolutely stunned, if the F-15 didn't shoot every one of them down. So it really is a very silly, meaningless propaganda claim? Now we do have another aircraft, that is also unbeaten in A2A combat, and has faced off against aircraft as capable as itself. The British Sea Harrier is the only aircraft unbeaten in A2A combat, that has faced off against worthy, viable opposition. And that really is a huge factor, that's worth knowing, unlike the F-15 propaganda claim, that you'd be shocked if it hadn't managed.

Seemingly these Americans have no idea that both the F-22 and F-35 can't see, track, or target any other stealth aircraft from BVR (beyond visual range)?. Stealth alone defeats high-frequency (short wave) radar by absorption and deflection, it does not defeat low-frequency (long wave) radar. Therefore, to see, track, and target stealth aircraft you must have long-wave radar, but it must also be enhanced to remove all background clutter for targeting purposes. Neither the AN/APG 77 radar used in the F-22, nor the AN/APG-81 radar used in the F-35, can see any other stealth aircraft from BVR (without enhanced long wave radar) - This fact the US Air force obviously know! Only it seems the reality is, that when the F-35 radars were being designed 13 years ago, there were no other stealth aircraft to think about as a potential threat? So how can these US aircraft be seen as any sort of threat to either China or Russia, who both have these aircraft technically beaten? They can see and target US jets from BVR, yet the US jets can't even see them from BVR? Russia's new 5th generation Byelka (2band) radar, used in SU-57, does have enhanced long-wave radar, they've designed and developed the first L-Band fighter radar we've ever seen. They've cleverly embedded L-band AESA radars in the leading edges of the wings. The new L-band AESA radar data gets processed in real time through extremely powerful Russian Elbrus computers being significantly enhanced removing all clutter, meaning it can see, track, target, and engage enemy stealth aircraft from BVR. They can also interact in ''real-time'' with each other, and take control of ground to air missile defence systems (that alone is lethal), and they can see enemy stealth fighter aircraft entering Russian airspace if not long before Russian airspace from much greater distances with real-time data from massive Russian ground long wave stations (that are all protected today with the networked S-400 defensive system). Therefore, as they'll always know where the enemy aircraft are, they'll always be able to approach any enemy aircraft head on, and therefore stealthily, (Russia wisely sacrificed rear end stealth for much better manoeuvrability) meaning today, the US fighter jets would not even be able to see them coming!! Russia's Byelka (2band) radar covers all aspects of frequencies across all channels, that are used for tracking, targetting, and also jamming. It's part of Sh121 multifunctional integrated radio electronic system (MIRES) on board the SU-57. Russia tested much of this new radar suit on the SU-35, so they also have the option of fitting this radar into SU-35's permanently, meaning Russia's SU-35S flanker will be at no disadvantage with F-22/35. As although the SU-35 can be seen and targeted from BVR, the SU-35 with the new 5th gen radar is as able to see and target the US jets from BVR, seeing the all-important Russian advantage in BVR missile distance, plus the excellent manoeuvring, neither the F-22/35 have, as more than critical, if you're going to avoid simply being blown out of the sky. And you don't have to take my word on it, either? Dr Carlo Kopp of Air Power Australia explored low band AESAs embedded in fighter wing leading edges in 2009, and concluded that this concept is operationally and technically viable. Study results were not published by APA, due to the potentially adverse impact - APA has a long-standing policy of not publishing concepts that might provide potential adversaries with a competitive combat advantage. However, unbeknownst to APA, Tikhomirov NIIP were already working on this concept for two or more years, and they revealed the technology at the Russian MAKS Airshow in 2011. Dr Kopp explains - the appearance of the first L-Band Fighter Radar is an excellent example of focused and intelligent lateral thinking which targets opponents' weaknesses. This is sound technological strategy and practice on the part of Russian industry. The new Tikhomirov NIIP L-band AESA is the first example of a technology which negates the intended X-band stealth advantage, well before the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter achieves even limited operational capability. Dr Kopp has produced a detailed forensic engineering study of the new NIIP L-band AESA and he explores the growth potential in the design. While the NIIP L-Band AESA disclosed at MAKS 2011 might be considered a prototype, where the specific performance of this prototype might confer only a small combat advantage, the inevitable development of this technology confers long-term and accelerating air combat advantages, both as a counter to specialized X-Band Low Observability and for the detection and disruption of sensors and digital communications systems that operate in the heavily used L-Band. No great originality is required to deploy and further evolve this design - the back-end hardware and software from existing X-band radars can be used with modifications, and publicly disclosed US roadmap documents for X-band AESAs can be emulated. The size of the Flanker and its power generation reserves make integration and cooling a low risk, easily solved standard of engineering problems. And this was back in 2011. We've seen where it went, It resulted in the N036 Byelka radar system that's far superior and more advanced than any western radar, who have no equivalent. Dr Kopp explains - This paper analyses the operational potential of this design, and performs a range of performance estimates based on manufacturer disclosures and known design features. The design has clear potential to provide a genuine shared multifunction aperture with applications including: Search, track and destroy missile mid-course guidance against low signature aircraft. Identification of Friend, Foe/Secondary Surveillance Radar. Passive angle tracking and geolocation of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters at long ranges. Passive angle tracking and geolocation of L-band AEWC-AWACS and surface based search radars at long ranges. Passive angle tracking and geolocation of hostile (i.e. Western) IFF and SSR transponders at long ranges. High-powered active jamming of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters. High-powered active jamming of satellite navigation receivers over large areas. High-powered active jamming of L-band AEWC-AWACS and surface based search radars at long ranges. High-powered active jamming of guided munition command data links over large areas. Performance modelling for a range of the feasible configurations indicates the radar will deliver tactically credible search range performance. The Tikhomirov NIIP L-band AESA is a very important strategic development, and a technology which once fully matured and deployed in useful numbers, will render narrowband stealth designs like the F-22 & F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, and some if not many UAVs, as highly vulnerable to all Flanker variants equipped with such radars.

We see the USA still unable to produce a VTOL fighter aircraft?. The F-35B was claimed by the USA to be able to do what the Harrier could do, while also being supersonic, stealthy with modern avionics systems etc? This is what we were told? Only one of the biggest technical headaches the British always had to build the Harrier, was the VTOL - transferring from ''lift'' (downward nozzles) to forward flight (rear-facing nozzles) and flying away. Apparently to achieve it took the British a hell of a lot of technical work, three - four months at a time over 3 years. (Look up all the variants they made) but they never gave up, and they finally figured it out. I said long before we ever saw the F-35B, it wouldn't be VTOL capable, even with the Rolls-Royce lift engines, because the USA has tried many times before, and failed, only managing to produce the British Harrier able to do so. Any US airframe (and there have been many), have all failed. At 7 mins 50 seconds, you'll watch a Harrier perform a proper VTOL. Copy and paste “2013 MCAS Yuma Air Show - AV8B Harrier Demo” into RU-vid search. Watch it from lift off, (to more importantly, flying away from the lift off), and you'll see the transfer of nozzles take place. You'll not find a single piece of footage of the F-35B doing this? I've had (Americans) tell me all sorts of rubbish, like it can do it, and even saying they've seen it lol, only when they can't show it? They quickly change, and instead we'll read them claim it was never intended to be VTOL capable? LOL. Sure, when Lockheed Martin's very own page on RU-vid clearly shows them trying to suggest it is VTOL capable, when it so clearly is not? Copy and Paste “First F-35B Vertical Takeoff Test” into RU-vid search. Watch this, you'll see it lift off, only you'll see it take off go straight up & hover then return straight back down? You'll never see it fly away from the lift off? Believe me, if it could, we'd see it doing so in every piece of footage we have on the F-35B - like we still see on all the footage of the Harrier doing so. But you'll never find any footage anywhere of the F-35B doing that. It shows you that Lockheed are not unknown to produce propaganda aircraft. As I claim, the F-22 is exactly that. A lemon, that became a propaganda aircraft, that was intended to be a viable military aircraft, that failed. 18 years the US have had F-22, and they've been in wars the entire time, only they've never used it, and they removed every F-22 from the Middle East, Jordan, Iraq, Turkey, and Saudi just after Russia arrived in Syria in 2015. Americans will then go on to say it's not necessary? LOL. While forgetting, they're to be carrier-based aircraft, meaning even slight damage to the deck or ramp, they can't get any jets airborne. Defeating the entire purpose of having the aircraft in the first place? You can't ever lose an entire carrier in battle for only minor damage. And why do we see the USA doing that? It's obviously because the USA is still the only country that's never managed to produce & build a VTOL fighter aircraft?. Britain did so in the late 50s, Russia did so in the late 60s the USA has tried and failed numerous times, so it seems this time they're going to try to lie about it LOL? That country is a travesty, man!

@@hotstepper887 how far can the f22 track..... because from I read the f22 have (bvr) capabilities.

@@wilsonsantiago3095 How far can the US jets see all other 4+ Generation aircraft (non-stealth)? They can see, track, and target them all from BVR. How far can the US jets see other 5th Generation (Stealth) aircraft? They can't see, track, or target any other stealth aircraft from BVR, as they lack the radar needed to perform that task. What I've already explained above. It's not rocket science, it only takes an understanding of abilities and what each ability means. Something that seems to be forgotten today, because we read so many without any idea at all about military hardware today, and nearly all they want to think and believe is propaganda and outright, in your face, lies.

An aircraft with such a thrust to weight ratio has no problem recovering with 1 engine regardless of thrust vectoring.

You forgot to mention the cloaking device

Thrust vectoring is great for air shows, but in REAL combat it’s useless. 99% of air combat takes place beyond visual range (BVR), in which trust vectoring will NOT save the SU-57…..

@@nimrodquimbus912 😂

It is a beautiful aircraft which is not very Russia in general, but air combat isn’t a beauty contest. It’s also a dirty airframe when it comes to radar cross section (RCS). The one thing IMO it has over the F-22 is multi-role capability, but that’s why we built the F-35. The F-22 was purpose built as an air superiority fighter only, it’s job is simply to kill other fighters and deny enemy aircraft the ability to fly. “If it flys, it dies.”

@@sgt_loeram1933 In my humble opinion the SU-27 is one of the best looking aircraft of all time.

About the J-20 it was difficult to fill one video. For the F-22, we'll see. It is a monumental task anyway.

@@Millennium7HistoryTech yeah your right I have another question When you look for information how do differenciate actual numbers from estimates

And you believe that?

@@HenryFWagons you never seen that video yet go watch

@@Rudraiya At an air show right? How many rusty old Ukrainian planes have they shot down?

@@HenryFWagons su 57 had it's first kill in Ukraine didn't you watcher the news 🤷‍♂ I think it's better then popping 🎈 like the f22 did

Assuming the pilot isn't going to be augmented.

I was thinking shot down.

Unfortunately we have the same issue with the F22. They ended production too soon and didn’t build replacement parts. Poor planning.

@@keirfarnum6811 Not poor planning, it was done on purpose so that american military contractors can make more money selling f35's.

@@sadiporter2966 this

No, it won't, even if the Su-57 does someday exist and even if it lives up to the (very unlikely) claims of its makers. Keep in mind that everything we know about this ghost is literally from marketing materials produced by the designer. Do you think they might have an incentive to exaggerate the future capabilities of their design they are desperately trying to sell?

Internet “experts” are hilarious!

I’d rather we overestimate than underestimate. Wouldn’t you?

@@nwbklr true overestimation is better than underestimation

Isn't this how the F-15 came to be during the cold war as well? Overestimate of the MiG-25's capabilities?

@@Stellar001100 same goes with the Soviet Union they overestimated the f16 and built Su27 and Mig29 during the last years of the Union.

Sounds like you might have worked for some intel outfit

Very good! 😃✌This are exactly the ideas I was considering since Su-35, Russian data link & S-400 were fielded together, abroad- Syria 2014! Except France, until F35, NATO'S & allies' navies didn't had a dedicated onboard IRST, maybe that's why the F35 B& C push, also new F-18 E/F especially against Chinese stealth & Su-57 with their new long range A-A, antiship, IRSTs, data links & long wave band radars & sensors fusions.

Regarding Thrust vectoring: again, very good points, I and my friends thought about same. BUT: 1. It can be shutdown by pilot and reactivated when needed! 2. Reasons are secret, apparently, THOUGH keep in mind Su-30, 57, 35 are big, heavy airframes with huge inertia & probably sacrificing some stealth & weight helps for defeating missiles & in dogfights, also upset recoveries(as said, very well by Millennium 7*)! Russian thinking is somewhat different and they also need rugged airframes for harsh environments...

Also consider that 1. You need huge range assets to discriminate an AWACS & E3 from enemy airfleet, which have very long ranges- I've heard unofficially around 450- 500+ Kms with good discrimination and are being assisted by other systems on the sea or ground, also satellites. 2. Also there are data links with F-15, 16, 18, 35, 22 so lots of sensors at very long ranges. 3. For a Chinese or Russian asset to get inside the effective missile hit range should get close to about 150- 250 Kms for a 300- 400 kms range weapon, which is going to be hugely difficult. 4. Even if it managed to launch will only send a few, while becoming a target itself, that from those ranges can be detected & defeated against. So... while there is a threat from China & Russia, it's not such a devastating one.

@@bogdana.m.2416 i guess MiG31 will be used for this purpose. It has long distance A-A missile and it's max Mach-3 speed will increase missile's range.

@@bogdana.m.2416 High altitude launch hypersonic munitions. HEL systems (terrestrial and space). "Range" is starting to mean less and less to countries with advanced militaries.

Hopefully they can get them to work.

Well, Sprey is right from a purely technical point, but it's not that simple. The problem with low frequency radar is that it gives you low resolution returns. So yes, you will see stealth airplanes as a blip, but it's questionable if the accuracy is high enough to create a lock. Also L-band antennas are quite large by necessasity. In the SU-57 only the antennas in the wing root are capable of creating L-band signals, but not the main radar dish. So it's probably more to simply detect stealth aircraft than to attack them from a distance. Also active radar and stealth is a problem anyway. You can have the best stealth features, the moment a stealth aircraft switches it's own radar on everything with a modern radar warning receiver will have immediatly a pretty good idea where the signal is coming from.

Even the Czechs made the stealth detecting radars in the nineteens, called Tamara and Viera

Pierre Sprey is an absolute moron and you should not listen to a thing he says.

@@jerryjencik3879 anything can detect something is out there , it would be nice to know exactly where, what good is a missile system if it can not lock onto what it is detecting . . . . pretty much worthless

@@shi01 Seemingly these Americans have no idea that both the F-22 and F-35 can't see, track, or target any other stealth aircraft from BVR (beyond visual range)?. Stealth alone defeats high-frequency (short wave) radar by absorption and deflection, it does not defeat low-frequency (long wave) radar. Therefore, to see, track, and target stealth aircraft you must have long-wave radar, but it must also be enhanced to remove all background clutter for targeting purposes. Neither the AN/APG 77 radar used in the F-22, nor the AN/APG-81 radar used in the F-35, can see any other stealth aircraft from BVR (without enhanced long wave radar) - This fact the US Air force obviously know! Only it seems the reality is, that when the F-35 radars were being designed 13 years ago, there were no other stealth aircraft to think about as a potential threat? So how can these US aircraft be seen as any sort of threat to either China or Russia, who both have these aircraft technically beaten? They can see and target US jets from BVR, yet the US jets can't even see them from BVR? Russia's new 5th generation Byelka (2band) radar, used in SU-57, does have enhanced long-wave radar, they've designed and developed the first L-Band fighter radar we've ever seen. They've cleverly embedded L-band AESA radars in the leading edges of the wings. The new L-band AESA radar data gets processed in real time through extremely powerful Russian Elbrus computers being significantly enhanced removing all clutter, meaning it can see, track, target, and engage enemy stealth aircraft from BVR. They can also interact in ''real-time'' with each other member of the squadron, auto selecting the best placed BVR missile, that can be fired by anyone of them that has a target on radar, they can also take control of ground to air missile defence systems (that alone is lethal), and they can see enemy stealth fighter aircraft long before Russian airspace and from much greater distances, with "real-time" data from massive Russian ground long wave stations (that are all protected today with the networked S-400 defensive system). Therefore, as they'll always know where the enemy aircraft are, they'll always be able to approach any enemy aircraft head on, and therefore stealthily, (Russia wisely sacrificed rear end stealth for much better manoeuvrability) meaning today, the US fighter jets would not even be able to see them coming!! Russia's Byelka (2band) radar covers all aspects of frequencies across all channels, that are used for tracking, targetting, and also jamming. It's part of Sh121 multifunctional integrated radio electronic system (MIRES) on board the SU-57. Russia tested much of this new radar suit on the SU-35, so they also have the option of fitting this radar into SU-35's permanently, meaning Russia's SU-35S flanker will be at no disadvantage with F-22/35. As although the SU-35 can be seen and targeted from BVR, the SU-35 with the new 5th gen radar is as able to see and target the US jets from BVR, seeing the all-important Russian advantage in BVR missile distance, plus the excellent manoeuvring, neither the F-22/35 have, as more than critical, if you're going to avoid simply being blown out of the sky. Dr Carlo Kopp of Air Power Australia explored low band AESAs embedded in fighter wing leading edges in 2009, and concluded that this concept is operationally and technically viable. Study results were not published by APA, due to the potentially adverse impact - APA has a long-standing policy of not publishing concepts that might provide potential adversaries with a competitive combat advantage. However, unbeknownst to APA, Tikhomirov NIIP were already working on this concept for two or more years, and they revealed the technology at the Russian MAKS Airshow in 2011. Dr Kopp explains - the appearance of the first L-Band Fighter Radar is an excellent example of focused and intelligent lateral thinking which targets opponents' weaknesses. This is sound technological strategy and practice on the part of Russian industry. The new Tikhomirov NIIP L-band AESA is the first example of a technology which negates the intended X-band stealth advantage, well before the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter achieves even limited operational capability. Dr Kopp has produced a detailed forensic engineering study of the new NIIP L-band AESA and he explores the growth potential in the design. While the NIIP L-Band AESA disclosed at MAKS 2011 might be considered a prototype, where the specific performance of this prototype might confer only a small combat advantage, the inevitable development of this technology confers long-term and accelerating air combat advantages, both as a counter to specialized X-Band Low Observability and for the detection and disruption of sensors and digital communications systems that operate in the heavily used L-Band. No great originality is required to deploy and further evolve this design - the back-end hardware and software from existing X-band radars can be used with modifications, and publicly disclosed US roadmap documents for X-band AESAs can be emulated. The size of the Flanker and its power generation reserves make integration and cooling a low risk, easily solved standard of engineering problems. And this was back in 2011. We've seen where it went, It resulted in the N036 Byelka radar system that's far superior and more advanced than any western radar, who have no equivalent. Dr Kopp explains - This paper analyses the operational potential of this design, and performs a range of performance estimates based on manufacturer disclosures and known design features. The design has clear potential to provide a genuine shared multifunction aperture with applications including: Search, track and destroy missile mid-course guidance against low signature aircraft. Identification of Friend, Foe/Secondary Surveillance Radar. Passive angle tracking and geolocation of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters at long ranges. Passive angle tracking and geolocation of L-band AEWC-AWACS and surface based search radars at long ranges. Passive angle tracking and geolocation of hostile (i.e. Western) IFF and SSR transponders at long ranges. High-powered active jamming of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters. High-powered active jamming of satellite navigation receivers over large areas. High-powered active jamming of L-band AEWC-AWACS and surface based search radars at long ranges. High-powered active jamming of guided munition command data links over large areas. Performance modelling for a range of the feasible configurations indicates the radar will deliver tactically credible search range performance. The Tikhomirov NIIP L-band AESA is a very important strategic development, and a technology which once fully matured and deployed in useful numbers, will render narrowband stealth designs like the F-22 & F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, and some if not many UAVs, as highly vulnerable to all Flanker variants equipped with such radars.

Yeah! But the Russians knew that the Republicans and the Democrats in the US of A would be killing each other first before the development of a 6th-gen aircraft gets its funding. So, no pressure!

Exactly.

Usa will be in civil war in 2 years.