The F-35 Has Met its Match 

You can't tell me the guy responsible for the naming didn't slip in those reference on purpose.

Under-rated comment 😀

Erdogan himself picked the name. It's highly unlikely that he is a Star Trek fan lmao

​@@NomadFierceno erdogan didnt named ,other partner party leader bahceli gave the name

İsmi Türkçe. Kaan bir erkek ismidir. Anlamı kralların kralıdır.

I would say maybe you will see it if you stand against it, but if you cannot see it, you will be destroyed already. This plane, in addition to the general plane, has a lot of jet bomber drones (Anka 3), attack jet Kızılelma (Baykar-Kizilelma) drones, and a complicated computer server to manage its weapons and missiles. The speaker skipped this part. Unfortunately, Turks are first in the world in UAV technology.

well, yes, if they decide to make more planes and sell them.

I think you meant "Things KAAN only get better" 😂

@davidhughes4089 "Boo this man" *Boooo* 😂

And they have the right strategic stance: develop independent capabilities to be independent from other actors on the world stage. Europe MUST shift its armaments stance in the same way. It has nothing to do with being a 'bad ally' if one develop its own weapon systems. We see it currently what it means if weapon systems have 'strings attached' by their country of origin. And since more and more weapon systems rely heavily on programs and electronic interactions ... it is irresponsible and dangerous to accept some kind of 'back door' in the systems that allows another actor to compromise them.

KAAN = THE KING OF THE KINGS 🇹🇷🇦🇿😎

Kaan means ear 👂 In Hindi

Turkey never operated an aircraft of Russian origin. TurAF is strongly against it even today.

@@anavgeekspassion5727 But they have played the two sides against each other for favor and technology. What about threatening to buy SAMS ? I would bet there have been technology trades and visits by both to try to win contracts.

You MUST be joking. I'll give it credit when it PERFORMS against its peers. Before that it's vaporware.

You'll hardly come across 5th gen aircraft performing against one another. Most info you're relying on when speaking of the F-22/F-35 are written on papers as well.

@@anavgeekspassion5727 The F-22 calls the F-15 the candy in a babies hand but struggles on a dogfight against the Eurofighter under certain conditions. If the "KKKHHHHAAAAANNNN" is so good, why not put it on some joint NATO exercises going against the best that NATO has to offer? Put your money where your mouth is, it's what I say.

I would say maybe you will see it if you stand against it, but if you cannot see it, you will be destroyed already. This plane, in addition to the general plane, has a lot of jet bomber drones (Anka 3), attack jet Kızılelma (Baykar-Kizilelma) drones, and a complicated computer server to manage its weapons and missiles. The speaker skipped this part. Unfortunately, Turks are first in the world in UAV technology.

​@@nahitakyel U$A is first in UAV technology.

@@nahitakyel put away the hammer kind sir We are allied are we not? A real nice bit of kit for defending one’s country so let’s all hope it never has to be used.

@@peterweller8583 peekaboo's response was to your incorrect statement that Turkey is #1 in UAV technology. The US has had combat UAV's way before Turkey built their first one. The MQ9 Reaper and a couple of others secret UAVs they have developed recently are more advanced than anything Turkey has. Germany and France also have very advanced military UAV's, most of which have been kept a secret. So it has nothing to do with alliances that you speak of. He is disputing your false statement. Turkey's UAV's just got more exposure recently because they were used in Azerbaijan in the war with Armenia, and in the Ukraine against Russia, so the world got to see what armed UAVs can do in the battefield which happened to be made in Turkey. You cannot seriously compare a $2M Bayraktar TB2 to a $32M Reaper. BTW, all the Turkish drones were shot down in Ukraine after the first couple of months, and several were shut down in Libya before that by decades old anti-aircraft weapons.

Turkey is a NATO member, though, and as such, a Western country

@@Filanca1 I know, but is not my point though.

I'm English, and what I'd like to know, is why we read so many Americans making such ridiculous claims, like the F-22, is so much better than the Russian SU-57, (that relies on washing machine chip technology), and has the RCS (radar cross-section) of a Jumbo Jet? Seriously, just what on earth is that all about? Not only is that claim completely wrong, but it couldn't be any more wrong! The really obvious, and factual truth, is, they've no idea what the RCS of any military aircraft is, as they're always kept classified! But even more stupidly, they never even ask any of the most obvious questions, as they all, always, just assume so much! Questions like, what do either the F-22, or F-35's have available to them, to detect, track, and target enemy stealth aircraft, from BVR (beyond visual range)? And yet, if they had just asked that one, really obvious question, then maybe they'd understand, that today's reality is nothing at all, like they think! Seemingly, they don't even understand, that stealth alone, defeats high-frequency (short wave), radar, by absorption and deflection, but it does not defeat low-frequency (long wave radar). Therefore, to detect, track, and target enemy stealth aircraft from BVR, can be done with long-wave radar, (but it must also be enhanced), to remove all background clutter for targeting purposes. So, regardless of the aircraft's RCS (they all believe means so much), when they're being detected, tracked and targetted by long wave radar, they're far from stealthy, and they just light up, and they stand out like a beacon in the night. It also seems, they don't know that neither the APG-77 radar in the F-22, or the APG-81 radar in the F-35, have any kind of long wave radar, (hence, they can't detect any enemy stealth aircraft from BVR). So, just think about that, and what it actually means? This is also a fact, the US air force will be fully aware of, only it seems the reality is, when the F-35 radars were being designed 13 years ago, there were no other stealth aircraft to think about as a potential threat! So, obviously, we must ask, just what do the F-22, or the F-35, actually have available to them, to detect enemy stealth aircraft from BVR? They have, AWACS, (that can transfer all targetting data to the F-22 - F-35's in real time). Only, that's not possible today. And this is why actually understanding any potential adversaries, real abilities, becomes extremely important, critical in fact. As, on the other hand, we find this Russian SU-57, (rubbish) the Americans all claim, is equipped with a 5th generation radar, (with enhanced long-wave radar), their new Byelka (2band) radar used in SU-57. They can detect, track, and target enemy stealth jets from BVR, and very easily today. Russia has designed, and developed, the first L-Band fighter radar we've ever seen. They've embedded L-band AESA radars into the leading edges of the wings. The L-band AESA radar "data" gets processed in real time (through extremely powerful Russian computers), being significantly enhanced, removing all background clutter, seeing them perfectly able to detect, track, and engage enemy stealth aircraft from BVR. This new Russian radar technology, along with its very impressive range parameters, and it's jamming ability (over very large areas) make this aircraft deadly to all other aircraft types. (But according to the Americans), it's just Russian rubbish, right? They can also detect, track, and target enemy stealth fighters, long before they enter Russian airspace, (from much greater distances today), with "real-time" data from all those massive Russian ground (long wave stations), that are all protected with the networked S-400 defensive system. Russia's new (2band) radar, covers all frequencies across all channels, used for tracking, targeting, and also for jamming (over large areas). It's part of Sh121 multifunctional integrated radio electronic system (MIRES) on board the SU-57. We should also understand, that Russia tested this new radar suit in the SU-35's, so they also have the option of fitting this radar into the SU-35's. Seeing the SU-35 at no disadvantage against either the F-22/35. As although the SU-35 can be detected, tracked, targeted and shot down from BVR by the US stealth fighters, the SU-35 equipped with this new radar is just as able to detect, track, target and shoot down the US stealth fighters from BVR. Seeing the all-important, huge Russian advantage, in BVR missile range, plus the excellent manoeuvring, neither the F-22/F-35 have, as more than critical, (if you're going to avoid simply being blown out of the sky). The truth is, this new Russian 5th generation radar, design, has very clear potentials, to provide genuine shared multifunction apertures, with applications including... Search, track, and destroy, missile mid-course guidance, against low signature aircraft, identification of friend or foe with secondary surveillance radar. Passive angle tracking and geolocation of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters at long ranges. Passive angle tracking and geolocation of L-band AEWC - AWACS and surface based search radars at long ranges. Passive angle tracking and geolocation of hostile (i.e. Western) IFF and SSR transponders at long ranges. High-powered active jamming of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters. High-powered active jamming of satellite navigation receivers over large areas. High-powered active jamming of L-band AEWC-AWACS and surface based search radars at long ranges. High-powered active jamming of guided munition command data links over large areas. [Effectively, and completely, neutralizing the USA's use of AWACS for their detection]. The Tikhomirov NIIP L-band, AESA 5th generation radar, is an extremely important strategic development, and it's a technology which once fully matured and deployed in useful numbers, will render narrowband stealth designs like the F-22 & F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, and many, UAVs, as highly vulnerable to all flanker variants equipped with such radars. Furthermore, just what have the Americans, ever seen the F-22 actually, do? Well, other than flying over a beach, on a RU-vid video? Absolutely nothing!

The F-35B, was claimed to be a stealthy single engine multirole combat aircraft, that unlike the Harrier, would be supersonic, stealthy, with modern avionics systems, and like the Harrier, would be VTOL capable. This is why the British originally designed our two carriers without ramps. Only one of the biggest technical headaches, the British always had when building the Harrier, was the VTOL, - transferring from "lift" (downward nozzles), to forward flight (rear-facing nozzles), to then fly away from the lift-off. Apparently to achieve it took the British a hell of a lot of technical work, (three - four months at a time, over 3 years). Look up all the variants they made, but they never gave up, and they finally figured it out. I made the claim long before we saw the F-35B, that it wouldn't be VTOL capable, (even with the Rolls-Royce lift engines), because, the US has tried to produce and build a VTOL combat aircraft many times before, only they've failed each time, only ever managing to produce and build the British Sea Harrier, able to do so. Every US airframe (and there have been many), have all failed. I'll show you what I mean... Copy and paste “2013 MCAS Yuma Air Show - AV8B Harrier Demo” into RU-vid search. At 7 mins, 50 seconds, you'll watch a Harrier performing a proper VTOL. You'll see it lift off vertically, and then fly away from the lift-off, and you'll see the transfer of nozzles take place. -- Yet you'll not ever see any footage anywhere, of the F-35B performing a full VTOL. Yet Lockheed Martin do claim it is VTOL capable, when it, so clearly, is not. Copy and Paste “First F-35B Vertical Takeoff Test” into RU-vid search. You'll see it lift off, only then you'll see it return straight back down from the lift-off. You'll never see it fly away from the lift-off, if it could, we'd see footage of it doing so - like we still see on all the footage of the Harrier doing so. But you'll not find any footage, anywhere, of the F-35B performing a VTOL. The Americans, (unable to answer this), will then comically claim it's not necessary? LOL, (while forgetting, they're to be carrier-based aircraft), meaning even any slight damage to the deck or ramp, they'd be unable to get the jets airborne? Defeating the entire purpose of having the aircraft in the first place! You can't ever lose an entire carrier, in battle, for only minor damage?, I mean goodness me, whatever next?. So, why do we see the USA doing this? It's obviously because, the US is still a country that's never managed to produce & build a VTOL fighter aircraft. Britain did so in the late 50s, Russia did so in the late 60s, the USA has tried and failed numerous times, so it seems this time, they're going to try to lie about it LOL. That country is a travesty, man! But it does show us, that Lockheed do indeed produce propaganda aircraft, as the F-22 is exactly the same... A failed aircraft, so today, only being used for propaganda purposes! Typical US propaganda, usually consists of silly falsehoods, fake misinformation claims, or just twisted truths, like the F-15, is said to be unbeaten in A2A combat? It's true (ish), only when we look at every aircraft shot down by an F-15?, we find that none had any offensive capabilities, most had little if anything defensive, many without even a basic radar, meaning, you'd be absolutely stunned, if the F-15 didn't shoot every one of them down! So it really is, once again, and as always, just a very silly, and meaningless remedial propaganda claim. However, there is another aircraft, that's also unbeaten in A2A combat, and has faced off against aircraft just as capable and well armed as itself, (only it's not American, so you'll never hear about it). The British Sea Harrier, is actually, the only aircraft unbeaten in A2A combat, that has faced off against worthy, and viable opposition. And that really is a huge factor, that's worth knowing, unlike the F-15 propaganda claim, that you'd be shocked if it hadn't managed. The Americans really should be questioning why the US government made it illegal to sell the F-22? The US government, seemingly want it believed, that because it's so good, they don't want anyone else to have it. Yet, that actually makes no sense at all, none, not even a little sense. As the facts are, they've no idea what's around the corner in new modern military technologies, and with the speed we're seeing so much new hi tech, military tactical hardware, being designed, developed, and created today, it could have made great sense to sell the F-22 at some stage. (If it actually works). If it worked, they'd have been able to recoup many of the resources spent on the aircraft, if not the resources in their entirety, even a profit! Yet, as always, there's another, and much more likely, reason the USA made it illegal to sell the F-22. If it is, just as I suspect it is, a "lemon", that was intended to be their leading front line strike aircraft, (that's failed), yet because of the cost/expense, to design and build them, they can't just write it off. So the US have then only used the F-22 for propaganda purposes? Then what better way of preventing anyone else from finding out, that it actually doesn't work, and really is a lemon, than making it illegal to sell? Logically, that's the only real possible reason the USA made it illegal to sell the F-22. -- It can only be, because it's a failed aircraft that was intended to be their leading front line 5th generation strike aircraft. Well 20 years the US have had the F-22 in service, and they've been in wars the entire time, yet they've never used it, not once! And even more telling, was, after Russia arrived in Syria in 2015, the US removed every F-22 from right across the Middle East... Iraq, Tukey, UAE and Jordan. Absolutely no doubt about it, I guarantee that we'll never see the F-22 involved in any real war scenario, or even involved in any major sortie, because it's basically junk. They've even trashed all the infrastructure they had in place to build more of them.

Kaan Avionics = IRFS (AESA Radar, Electronic Warfare (EW)) Advanced Navigation Features (ICNI) Integrated Electro-Optical Systems (IEOS) (Infrared Search and Track (IRST), Electro-Optical Targeting System (EOTS) etc.) Yet stealth alone, defeats high-frequency (short wave), radar, by absorption and deflection, but it does not defeat low-frequency (long wave radar). Therefore, to detect, track, and target enemy stealth aircraft from BVR, can be done with long-wave radar, (but it must also be enhanced), to remove all background clutter for targeting purposes. This is, just like both the F-35 and F-22, it has no long wave radar! Therefore, it is blind to all other stealth aircraft!

​@@hotstepper887 how much misinformation are you going to Post ruski wh0re?

@@hotstepper887Are you OK?

Muhalif basının Kaan ın uçtuğunu görmediğini biliyorsun değil mi?Vatansever mi oluyorlar, şimdi?

@@musakarakaya2483 yazdığımı tekrar oku lütfen

@@musakarakaya2483 yazdığımı tekrar oku lütfen, muhalefet ya da iktidarla ilgili hiçbir şey söylemedim

@@berkekaan9118 Sen de haklısın,ben de hakılıyım.

​@@musakarakaya2483ooo yalaaakk.alert 🚨🚨🚨🚨😂😂

The Turks need first to survive economic to build this plane.

Definitely hyperbolic at this stage. Not enough is known about the jet especially regarding its actual stealth level and situational awareness, the quantities they will be able to produce and at what (real) price are unknown also. Even if its a superior aircraft in every way to the F-35 if it cannot be made in sufficient numbers its operationally irrelevant. So all these things make a massive difference.

It's clickbaity, but that title made me click, and you, too. The video was very good, so I don't have a problem with it.

Lmao there is only two kinds of stealth low observable and not. Rcs under a meter squared is fine. Just ask the kh 69

West can do alot of demage to them if they decide to cut them off from components and materials. They are still not self sufficient enough nor have good enough relations with "other side".... so they cant be called "power house" until they become self sufficient to much larger extent.

Hilarious. Kaan adopted both F-22 and F-35 designs .

How much of the planes parts are indigenous. 100% if not, its worthless as its not sovereign.

@@erwin5760 Remember , the turks build the landing gear for the F35 . So F35 worthless ?

@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 yes and a little from the super hornet.

@@erwin5760 all of it

During the U.S. ATF program, one of the prototypes tail surfaces began violently twitching while moving on the ground. It was determined that the FBW system was reacting to expansion joints in the taxiway/runway. The sensitivity of the system was tuned to reduce sensitivity. Each minor impact by first, the nose wheel and then the main gears, introduced small pitch changes that the computer interpreted as up or downdrafts that it attempted to null out by deflecting the horizontal tail to counter those forces.

No it was unintended. And was fixed in 2nd flight

The plane is going to look much different. Smaller aswell. It's being produced. 6 more prototypes.

I honestly don't know what gave me the impression that the kaan was a small thing as big as an F-16, but your comment prompted me to look it up and oh my LORD it's gigantic!

​@@SmoochyRoo time to 'add' miniaturization and weight savings

Turkiye is doing some neat stuff. This could become a nice export product line.

​@@waynesworldofsci-tech no it wouldn't be an export. Who would the export to that wouldn't prefer either American or European or Chinese or Russian designs? India has it's own program, South Korea does, Japan does and China does and Russia does and Europe does and America does. The middle East buys American. Western Europe buys American or indigenous. Eastern Europe buys Russian. South East Asia buys American or indigenous. Literally only Africa seems possible. But they mostly can't afford fifth Gen.

@@sparkzbarca Um; no. The Russian aerospace industry has massive issues. The Chinese have huge quality problems. That leaves the Swedes. Yes, the Gripen is fifth gen without full stealth features. It’s nearly as stealthy as the SU-57. The Korean one will be good. But expensive. The US is too expensive. The Rafale isn’t as good as the Gripen currently, though it is low observable. The problem is the computer systems. If Turkiye can produce Hurjet and Kaan for a lower price than the competition, while offering relatively similar features, you have a market. Say Turkiye manages to see 50 Hurjets. That will help lower production costs for your own planes, but also help cover development. That’s what the Russians did, until their engineering went to hell. That’s why India is working on their own design. They helped fund development of the SU-57 but decided to drop out, bought Rafales, and are now working on their own designs. The country Turkiye would be competing in that market with is India.

@@waynesworldofsci-tech In fact, the genie is out of the bottle in the defense and aerospace industry. But no one has noticed this enough yet. The USA, which has extensive war experience, was the most reliable and sustainable supplier in the field of defense for a long time. As technology developed, it consolidated this position. It has now entered another period in which it will decline as technology develops. Many countries are still waiting in line for the manned F-16 fighter jet. There are significant question marks over the F-35 aircraft and these are also expressed by the countries that use this aircraft. (ALIS, signals intelligence claims, etc.) Even if the USA gave the next generation unmanned warplane for free, there are many countries that would not trust it and buy it. Seeing this, the USA wants to penetrate these markets through countries such as South Korea and Türkiye. (A change of management would instantly turn the relations between Turkey and the USA, which seem to be at odds today, into besties.) For this reason, it does not hesitate to give engines to planes like KAAN. Of course, chips and other subsystems that are difficult to produce locally. Therefore yes. It looks like it will be a very qualified export product...

@@aybarsmericpure delusion lol

cope harder

There are plenty, just not on YT

Thanks sir and you are correct. It’s like you have to sift through a lot of rubbish to find the gem. Been watching 4 years, thanks so much

@@Millennium7HistoryTech Met it's match ?

Oh come on surely it's biased

2 prototype. 1 of them has never flight. They are using for stress and ground tests. ironbird test.

8 prototyps are planned for all kind of tests,

@@highway9patrol Based on China's experience in developing the FC31 J20, it will take several years for Turkey's fighter jet to enter service. At the fastest, it may take about 5 years.

@@steppenwolf5956OK，Based on China's experience in developing the FC31 J20, it will take several years for Turkey's fighter jet to enter service. At the fastest, it may take about 5 years.

​@@user-wr8sm6jp6j yes but it will enter service in 2028. And engines in 2030

Almost forgot that YT encourages hyperbolic thumbnails till I saw this one.

Amen.

The latter quote has been permanently co-opted by Ryan Reynolds.

I'm 40 and the first thing I thought of was the Wrath of Khan but the Family Guy cutaway version "edited for goats".

You are correct. Kaan and Khan are the same word of Turkic origin. One wrotten in Turkish, other in English

"They put creatures in our bodies."

Loads of people know about - " KHAN", but never seen a movie itself. This scene has a life of its own, now. Ps. I didn't see it myself, but I'm familiar with the story and importance of it for fanbase

Im 53 and i was thinking of your mom.. Hows she doing these days?

The Turkish made drones was game changer in Syria,Ukraine and Azerbaijan. Now those drones changing the game in Africa. Now they have Akinci, Kizil elma ( unmanned fighter drone) and mini b2 ( anka 3). Turkey is atleast Top 3 in drone making. Now they are making tb3 version that can land and take off from helicopter landing ships.

Thank you to you!

I would say maybe you will see it if you stand against it, but if you cannot see it, you will be destroyed already. This plane, in addition to the general plane, has a lot of jet bomber drones (Anka 3), attack jet Kızılelma (Baykar-Kizilelma) drones, and a complicated computer server to manage its weapons and missiles. The speaker skipped this part. Unfortunately, Turks are first in the world in UAV technology.

True, I forgot that

@@Millennium7HistoryTech And RBS-70

@@Millennium7HistoryTech Robot-70/90 as well...

Turks have been soldiers for 2000 years. They fought with China, conquered Eastern Rome, Iran, Europe up to Vienna, North Africa, the Middle East, and they are the 3rd Roman state. They don't like treachery.

But its objectively correct to say that these Gen 1 sensors/weapons are inferior to Western equipment, which has been around for many generations and multiple rounds of lessons learned and applying real world data into their upgrades and design. Its silly to assume that some of the first sensors/weapons systems the Turks ever created would be better at the first try. Also, "Superior Western" powers didn't say the Japanese "equipment as being inferior copies of Superior Western Equipment"... the Russians learned that the hard way a few decades before that.

The zero air plane was an American design, but the Japanese were a higher bidder.

​@@nahitakyel Turkic tribes fought China. There was no "Turks" some 2000 years ago !

@@qedcharlie 🤣 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KTkxftXVTSU.htmlsi=kr3KB7mkwjDq8Ti-

I would say maybe you will see it if you stand against it, but if you cannot see it, you will be destroyed already. This aircraft, in addition to the command plane, has a lot of jet bomber UAVs (Anka 3), attack jet Kızılelma (Baykar-Kizilelma) UAVs and a complicated computer server to manage its weapons and missiles. The speaker skipped this part. Unfortunately, Turks are first in the world in UAV technology.

Compared to the US his financial hurdles it are just peanuts...

They are making nice money on Russian oil and gas now.

@@Triggernlfrl Very true.

Demographically, they are poised for increased world leadership going forward while the US and Europe are in deep trouble from a debt and trade standpoint. Don't underestimate Turkey.

I'm expect the financial crisis to turn people more islamist which will curtail scientific advancements

It seems Turkey is getting some competition in that field, though. Hungary has been axed off classified intel sharing. Slovakia won't be far behind.

Turkic countries, malaysia, endonesia, qatar, saudi arabia, pakistan, ukraine showed interest in buying already. There are some rich countries that US wont sell any weapon to. The tricky part is will Turkey be able to make their own engine and ejection seat in time as well ? Time will tell

I don't want to get into political issues. However, when you say selling secret technology to third countries, I would like to remind you that the US sells its most advanced war machines to countries like Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Egypt. There is a huge trust problem between the US and Turkiye. The US ignores Turkiye's red lines.

Yerli motor için 2028 yılında seri üretime geçme hedefi var. Aksilikleri ve bazı yolunda gitmeyen sebepleri de sürece eklersek, en kötü ihtimalle 2030 tarihinde Kaan kendi 5. Nesil motorları ile uçacak. Bu süreç içerisinde üretilen block 1 Kaan 4.5 nesil olarak görev yapacak ve 100% 5. Nesil olmak için gerekli alt sistemleri yerli motorun seri üretim tarihine yetiştirecek. ​@@deano93517

I completely agree with you. Greetings and respect.

I am not very proud of these titles myself, but the alternative is being ignored by the algorithm.

Many thanks!

India is trying to do everything the Turks are doing while maintaining their strategic autonomy. That's difficult because unlike turkey india is not a nato nation thereby reducing the help usa can provide.

India should join the Boramae project and merge it with their AMCA project. They are structurally similar enough to fill the same role. Take the best components and features from each to refine the current Boramae design that is much further along in development,. Build them in India with many locally manufactured components. India already has a licensing agreement from GE for local production of the F414 engines used in Boramae. A fully stealthy variant of Boramae is planned for batch 2 or 3 but even batch 1 will be as stealthy as practical when using external weapons. The focus on firepower over stealth is because South Korea is likely to face much larger numbers of aircraft in a conflict but may outclass most individual aircraft. india is in a similar situation. Most importantly, Boramae is scheduled for production in 2026 while AMCA isn't going to be ready until the mid 2030s at the earliest.

India has great engineers but also has social and cultural deficiencies that prevent India to reach its goals.

​​@@max2008abhidoubt the US is supporting this Turkish effort. They are trying to peddle the F-35 to all allies thst they deem "PC" & are trying to 🪛 their "non-PC" allies out of 5th & 6th gen aircraft. Even gen 4 is rapidly becoming a problem.

Indians are just jealous of Turkey's progress and the fact they are continously arming their rivals Pakistan. Let them seeth

Because USA writed whatever narrative it wants to

They WERE offered Patriot, but they also wanted the technology transferred so that they could build their own - from scratch. The US did not trust Turkey to keep the technology from Russia and China and so we said nope. That is why they went with the S-400.

he said.

That’s not true. Turkey was offered the Patriot system but the Turks wanted extensive transfer of its technology as well which the US refused.

Truth shall set you free… Be truthfull … technology transfer came about when some pentagon and some senators who are not Turkish and NATO unity minded for 9 years from Obama’time unilmthey bought the S400’s …..Truth will set you free do not forget that….

The cables are cheap and this is a rented place, I can't place the treatment. I have treatment in my house in Italy.

@@Millennium7HistoryTech sir, do you have a family?

@@StandingHereI No

@@Millennium7HistoryTech 😖

@@Millennium7HistoryTechcan you adopt me. I’m a 40 year old with child like behaviours😂😂😂😂

An excellent comment. I agree with you on all points. If America calls a country a strategic partner, we learned long ago to pay attention.: ) Greetings from Turkey.

Local craftsmanship(worker payments) is more expensive then buying from US simple as that

A geography lesson for Americans. Turkey is actually mainly located in West Asia. Only a small portion of the country lies in Southeastern Europe. More to the point, why on earth would you WANT to dissuade arms sales to European nations? Such contracts generate revenue and jobs in the US. If your argument is one of 'self sustainability', there's really only one nation in the NATO alliance that even comes close to that and it isn't Turkey, with its reliance on US and Russian tech. That nation is France. Then again, the central reason why most nations, save for South Korea and Turkey have forgone 5th gen development and jumped straight to 6th gen to dilute reliance at that juncture, is because it's something of a sunk cost. There was a need for such development during the Heydey of the 22, but no one could afford it. The 35 was then made accessible, negating the need to develop (Turkey got punted from the programme for purchasing S400s so NEEDED to develop a comparable platform) and in turn saving money. South Korea NEEDED an indigenous development base in case the North got hot. Most nations in Europe can A. Interact with programmes like the F35 and B. Have no pressing defence requirements they need to address. Programmes like the FACS and FCAS are also projecting first flights around the time the KAAN is slated to be introduced, meaning that any 6th gen development on Turkeys part will be hampered by support requirements by a fledgling 5th gen platform.

It's partly true, we Turks we are different breed, we don't follow the excisting path, our mindset works differently. We can if needed having the same result in some cases even better result in short period of time.

You're talking about a race who invented arrows and made ships go from the land during the battle for Istanbul. Comparing them with others would be a mistake.

"Turks" born and raised in Germany, the company was located in Frankfurt.

Mount and Blade is my favorite title and made by Turks as well. Bannerlord is the latest one

@@benjaminloehner257 I didn't know that. Oh well, it was too good to be true. Never the less they got it done.

You do understand that's a British design. The British had developed their own stealth fighter and the USA convinced them to join the F35 program. That's why UK is the only country that can mod the F35(with Israel). Turkey collaborate with BAE and KAAN was the result

​@@Pmoolino not at all

@@Pmooli Are you Greek? :))

Uh, what failure?

@@DIREWOLFx75 the failure to achieve air dominance, even early in the war? The failure to keep Russian airspace secure? The fact that even 2 years into a fight against a far superior foe, Ukraine still has something resembling an air force? Take your pick. There's a reason why no one is buying Russian jets anymore. That reason is that they massively overstated the actual performance of their platforms and their failure in Ukraine has shown that the emperor has no clothes.

Turkic countries will be in line to buy the Kaan. They are drifting away from soviet-russian defence industry day by day

What failure ?

@@DIREWOLFx75 s400 systems keep shooting down friendly planes. Russian engines need alot of work and expensive to keep it in good shape. However Russian ammunition is pretty good. Oh also check the helmet f35 and f22 pilots are wearing and check the downed russian pilots helmet. They are literally wearing a bicycle helmet.