Su-57 Felon Vs F-15 Eagle Dogfight over Syria | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS | 

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Your video quality has definitely improved. Visually and speed wise. Keep up the great work!

Hey, GS. Once again great film. Good job. I recently test the F22 mod and the Su57 mod and i found a kind of an interesting fact that AMRAAM and the R77 or RVV-something, the FOX3 missiles can't track and pick them up against the enemy aircraft. Quite an interesting fact isn't it? I think the active radar in those missiles can see or track, maybe because of the stealth capability, i don't know why. But still the FOX2 missiles can successfully track the bandits. I tested several times and i found that the F22 and Su57 has almost same stealth capability. In F22 or Su57 you can pick them up within 5NM, so i fired FOX3 upon the bandits multiple times but it totally doesn't work. Maybe because of the jammers. Oh by the way the stealth capability on both of them also has same radar cross section regardless of the aspect angle which is as far as i know, the radar cross section has to be so much difference that depends highly on the aspect angle and the atitude of the aircraft while in the air. But just like i mentioned, the differencial of the RCS, it seems that doesn't work. I don't know, maybe a slightly tiny little difference?? But in my sight there's no difference. So if you take the F22 and you're gonna have to fight against the Su57 in BVR engagement, first you should follow the RWR signal and head on your way to the direction and hope your aircraft pick him up within 5 nautical miles or maybe try to find with your eyeballs, maybe that's easier. And do not use the FOX3 against him, it's completely useless, only FOX2s are available and dogfights. So, my suggestion is maybe if you are interested in what i am saying right here. You should make a video of it. i think this is also very fun to experiment. And once again great job you got there it was fun and very very disrespectful. LOOOOOOL

Hey Growling Sidewinder, I was planing on making a video inspired by your videos (don’t worry I’ll link you in the comments). I was just wondering how do you capture the shots outside your cockpit? Do you save the track or something? If you see this have a nice day!

@@DJones476 that's what I'm saying man. haha whatever it's just a mod~~~. We should understand. That's the only way i guess.

Shit😂😂😂

I read that in a Russian accent

😂😂😂😆😆

Lol

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Most commonly knows as plane induced flatspin

It Was On Autopilot

Lmao

Yes, it landed perfectly.. In pieces, not a problem. Just need to gather the parts and duct tape it and it'll fly again in no time.

@@vampiro4236 lol this is perfect

haha nice one

@@flavioandre302 SU-57 is not bad its one of the best jets in the world !!! SU-57 can easily beat F-15 in BVR combat also because it is a stealth plane !! never forget that

@@magnus_bd6185 well it should be able to beat the f15 which was built in the late 60s early 70s, anymore the jets of today it comes down to the pilot

@@nichollsboy11 The interesting fight would be between the F-22 and SU-57

@@magnus_bd6185 100% I agree

@@flavioandre302 Nor does it have to be: it simply has to be good enough to do the job for which it was designed. That is to say, it gives the VVS a qualitative and technological edge in any asymmetrical engagement the Russians might be engaged in in Russia’s near-abroad without needing to be the kind of high-precision, “use once and discard” surgical scalpel that the F-22 is; besides which, if it ever comes down to an F-22 and a Su-57 engaging each other in combat, then something has gone really very wrong and there are other things to actually worry about other than which is the better aircraft.

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Said a Belkan pilot lmfao

extra disrespect ;)

@@stalinium4769 Super Duper Extra Disrecpectful.. but it looks cool!!!

Russian pilot mocking American plane on fire colorized

@@peterjford SU-57 has multiple internal weapon bays on the same positions as the F-22

@@evo3s75 Not exactly, F-22 internal weapons bay are located at the front while Su-57 internal weapons bay runs from the front to the back in a narrow way.

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This is brutally honest lol.

Poor a-10 lol

A10 going vertical -> RIP

@@abel1997at A-10 is the better dog fighter it just can’t vertical

Stop requesting this over and over. Idk how many times he said that he won't do it because a-10 will out turn the su 25 and the su 25 is faster so the su 25 should avoid dogfighting.

Please!!!!!!

that was priceless :))))

This!!!!

A felon with a lot of flares around it

Yes 👏

Lol hahah

And the picture of the flat spin :D

Ah yes the fat spin

Fat spin lol

@@RottenFlesh-we6nu d4

@Noah Deamer ok man and so? Su-57 is good in DCS, so why doesn’t GS make a video about it? Did i tell you something like Su-57 is the best or that everyone sucks its d**k? No. But you sound like i said something like that

@Noah Deamer easy boy you are probably the guy who thinks that a10 cant be shot down and that abrams is indestructible..we dont even know a lot about this plane as it is still being developed and almost all informations are classified this in game mod is still missing a lot of stuff that we dont even know about

@Noah Deamer russia has a lot of problems with its military budget, so thats why they can’t order many of them. Im not making excuses for Su-57, but i would still love to see GS fly it himself

@Noah Deamer India backed out because it wanted to develop an indigenous fighter jet and not because su 57 is gArBaGe

@Noah Deamer russia is fucking broke. Lmfao. The “sad” truth is yes we can be biased towards America but out GDP makes there’s look pathetic. I doubt the su57 is as good as an f22. An easy example is looking at those engines, the su57 engines are exposed destroying the purpose of stealth. Call me a keyboard warrior go for it, my opinion is solid.

@Luke Wilson thrust vectoring, higher thrust to weight ratio, better low spee flight envelope - The Su57 is a superior dogfighter to the F15.

@Luke Wilson that's what they said about F4s in Vietnam, dogfighting is obsolete! It's as if radar technology is never going to improve. The F35 is one breakthrough away from being obsolete, and the F22 will turn into an overpriced version of the Su57.

already happened, but those are mods

Su57 too good for american, only thing they can do is outnumber for a chance

@@Empriction hahaha no I am not american but as much as I love airplanes of all sort I find the f-22 more capable then su-57

@@Empriction Heh let’s hope we don’t have to find out the hard way

@@ser43_OLDC of course you know it from the bullshit news...

@@BirdiesGoCherp it was pretty dumb if it was on purpose, the F-15 doubted too long

@@BirdiesGoCherp it may look cool but if the F-15 pilot was better he vcouldve easily killed him there

@@krinkel01 Feel free to share your skills with the rest of the world before you make a statement like that.

@@bojned oh no i am not saying i am good, i am just saying it was a dumb move and it was pretty punishable

@@krinkel01 so how many years do you have in Military aviation to call this a stupid move.... none I guess hahaha

Feisty's different

@@piotrdabrowski3825 no

Not even close.

you know it doesn't when his plane isn't turning 90 degrees per second and have few dozens of missiles

This Su-57 mod can go 3,35Ma and fly at 85,000ft - Check yourself - so kinematically/flight model it's even less realistic than Ace Combat... External model looks nice though.

heheheeheh.. the other pilot using a cheat code.. not fair

Yeah not really fair. They should put it up against a F-35 to make it more fair. A F-22 would probably win, not sure about a F-35.

@Luke Wilson Lol, no

@Luke Wilson and the british drive on the left....nice info thanks

My pleasure brother thank you for watching

@@GrowlingSidewinder Please fly The F-15STOL/MTD against The SU-57 Fox2 Dogfight!🙏

Still... have you seen videos of it doing manoeuvres?

So mig 21s crash into the ocean?

Why don't the A.F. add vectoring to our 5th generation jets?

Russians also have the R-37 with 300km range, the only problem is to detect an enemy at those kinds of ranges, and the SU-57 will get the R-37M which is even more insane

Keep in mind that the F-22 costs 3x as much to produce, so for every Raptor, there would be 3x Felons....

@@alexander-it6mx This is true. But sometimes quality over quantity is what wins a war.

@@tedarcher9120 Oh how I wish such missiles were in DCS. XD

@@alexander-it6mx As for if these two got into a fight, I'm not saying the F-22 is a sure winner but you can't deny the obvious issues they are having with the Felon. If things were to pop off now, the Felon wouldn't have the numbers as we speak. Regardless of the price tag.

The F15 had a test variant with thrust vectoring and the F22 has 2d to keep it more stealthier because 3d has alot of angles that reflect

Real fighters can't do this even with 3D thrust vectoring.

@@stupidburp have you seen the Su57 at air shows?

The su57 have the 360 ° biband radar and iir and uv coverage... mald and vce...

I'm not sure I'd say F22 has better stealth I think it's a different philosophy. The Russians believe there will still be dogfights and build with that in mind. America wants a standoff fight. If they don't get one they are in trouble though because no amount of training will beat the ability of the Russian planes.

Actually made a demo of that for testing in the late 80s before the 22 and 23 were made. Was in ace combat was a beast of a plane..lol

@@mikeyz1080 yes, i’m formiliar that prototype as well as the fa 18 harv. however the added weight of the nozzles along with the super maneuverability slowed them down which the united states believes is not good for a dogfight

@@julienckjm7430 Yeah but the performance of the Raptor is equal to an F-15 in that video. He's gonna re do it again soon with the new Raptor model.

@@harris8401 Its hard to say, because both this plane are stealth...yes F22 has batter stealth but you forger how many radars Su-57 has on it + OLS/IRST-50 with will help him to spot first F22 at longer distance. Because both this plane are stealth it will be impossible to fight BVR fights..it will be more dog fight at close to medium ranges 10-20 most...with 3D trust vectoring in this situation SU-57 is much batter plane and i think only pilot experiance will be one of the key reason who will win this fight.....

what - all two of them?

@@davidkantor3609 plus 76 on order.

Very few. By spinning on it's axis, any aircraft is turning the nose with as few Gs as possible.

Zero because this mod ignores physics. This is a UFO, not a realistic Su-57

@@deadeye4520 from the pilot's perspective though, he's taking negative Gs, not very comfortable, though it's probably only -1G or less.

That thing is... scary

@Noah Deamer dude no one cares about the real life one. People just appreciate the version in the game and how fun it is. U replied to every single one of these comments like ppl actually care

@Noah Deamer well buddy get of your high horse ik it's a game but irl that aircraft can still maneuver better than most aircrafts of its era probably even all of them the point of my comment was talking about the way it maneuver soo idk what's your problem got a few screws loose? Plus no one was talking about its stealth capabilities

Soso A,su25 is light bomber used for close airsupport.Su25 doesnt caryy AA missile.Its kinda useless in air to air combat.

@@laufer6062 then why is there a mission in dcs for it to dog fight?

@@sosoa2514 Who knows? But Su-25T is better to avoid fighting with other aircraft and that's a fact

@@chiken6559 I mean that is why I asked because I struggle to take down other fighters

@@laufer6062 It does carry air to air missile in form of the the R-73 and R-60M missiles and I once got a F-18 multiplayer kill in the Su-25T. Its do able. Growling Sidewinder also got a2a kills in the Su-25t like in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-clafANdNnIs.html

Maneurability doesn’t matter in an irl engagement.

Depends

@Tyler 324 yeah I know, let’s hope they don’t get into combat in real life

@@puffypegion7815 it's going to happen or the F-22 is going to tell then to go home 🤣

@@puffypegion7815 No it does not “depend” if you look at gulf war statistics gun kills were extremely rare and with more advanced technology today 99.9% of all battles will take place BVR.

There isnt a F-8 in DCS yet but it is under development. stormbirds.blog/2019/03/08/leatherneck-announces-f-8-crusader-f4u-progress/ stormbirds.blog/2019/12/24/leatherneck-update-details-f8-crusader-f4u-corsair-and-uss-essex-progress/

@@TheNicestPig fuckin awesome