Sub $1k 24 channel analog mixer? Mackie Onyx24 Review

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Mackie sent over the Onyx24 to checkout late June 2022. This video is a thoughts/review after about of month of use in a synth focused studio. This video is not sponsored.
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00:00 Intro, disclaimer, and Mackie board experience
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03:56 As an analog mixer...
05:00 Channel features...
06:39 Routing features (or the lack of)
10:15 Channel strip types
11:50 It's 24 channels.... kind've
13:55 USB and SD card outputs (and caveats)
15:44 The USB only has 4 outputs (so no analog mixing directly from DAW)
17:14 No one knob compression (good or bad?)
18:18 The competition (a quick overview, not exhaustive)
20:39 Apple Core Audio Aggregate Audio
21:40 Thoughts on studio use, expandability, and overall use.
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@TeftyMeems Год назад

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@SmithMyron 3 месяца назад

Thank you! Very informative and helpful review before pulling the trigger on this or other equipment.

@MarciaDiasRamosMD Месяц назад

Great review, thank you!

@todds5095 Год назад

Took a few months but I just got mine, so far a big Thumbs Up! Bought it to be my devoted drumset interface as I play a huge kit and will eat up the 18 XLR ins with little compromise. Awesome! No light pipe, no combining interfaces, easy peasy. My main interface is a 4 channel Audient iD44 for vocal/instrument tracking. I'm in home studio heaven! Thanks for this video, I've watched it many times as I waited for it to arrive. Kind regards!

@mrshiney2 Год назад

Yeah this is exactly what I need this board for, raw tracks of a full band at my home studio. You are satisfied with the AD/DA conversion of the the usb tracking?

@morgankpabitey1837 2 месяца назад

Very informative review

@neilloughran4437 Год назад

This looks great! I am considering one as the basic inputs for all my synths... shame that the card only record stereo does not record all the channels individually as that would have been awesome. I have the Model 12 and that feature is amazing... I like playing improv and editing after the fact... so a computer will be needed for that...

@mallipudidevarani7668 Год назад

Thanks for the review. I have a doubt. Can we record each channel's audio seperately into the DAW?

@AlexThorpe Год назад

Always love your review videos! Have you talked about your new rack/shelf setup in a video yet? I know you did one recently on the keyboard slat wall but I don't believe you touched on that in that video.

@TeftyMeems Год назад

Thank you! Not yet on the rack. We switched up the studio in June to make things more efficient. Before the switch up, the gear was split into three rack shelfs. Now it's mostly in a tall server rack we got off of Amazon. Will make a vid on it at some point but it's gonna be awhile (got a ton of projects in the pipeline).

@peterbrandauer1610 Год назад

A lot of your caveats, due to cost, directly apply to the Soundcraft Sig mtk series also.. however at the price I am blown away by the flexibility you mention and agree with you Thanks T, very interesting as always !

@TeftyMeems Год назад

Thanks Peter!

@pinkbuddha_samplepackreviews Год назад

great overview 👌

@TeftyMeems Год назад

❤🙏❤

@shepsvideos7462 4 месяца назад

Do you know why my onyx24 is increasing the main volume when I turn up aux volume? Great video it did really help me.

@Hysteric_Subjects Год назад

So after about a month with my Onyx24, I am missing my Tascam (updated from Model16 because wanted more ins and outs in my small synth studio setup). This thing sounds awesome don't get me wrong, but that's the only thing I like about it. What I miss from Tascam: - Inputs outputs on top vs in back (mixer on Jaspers stand against a wall, so reaching back there and figuring out what's what in my middle age is no fun) - More selectable routing with push-button function - One knob compressor: for me it's become a necessary item since I'm new and not great at gain staging, but also I intend to mostly do live stuff and all my recordings will reflect that for the most part. But like he says everyone has their own workflow, and others have said here, I might be too ignorant to know what it is I want and need (I've been through a few mixers since I began this journey three years ago). Awesome review, though. Love your style bro.

@unclejerrysworld Год назад

I can't tell you how much I appreciate this video!!!! I'm finally getting around to getting mine hooked up and I decided to sit down and re-watch this about 10 more times jotting down all the great setup options and limitations you provided!! In a very short time and very efficient manner, you covered basically everything I needed to know for my new setup!! Very Much Appreciated!!! Great job and you deserve many KUDOS for your presentation style and explaining things very VERY well!!! *One thing you brought up was needing another audio interface to output from the DAW to use the Mackie as a "touchy feely" mixer...... Just a simple question..... Would my Steinberg UR-242 work for that? It's a basically a 2/4 channel audio interface that is pretty solid.... I'm thinking that would be fine??? And if not too much to ask (and I think I ask for many) how would this be hooked up to the Mackie?? You seem to be the only person who knows this specific stuff!!! LOL!!! :)

@andystandys Год назад

I think you'd need something like a Behringer UMC1820 (18x20) - something that has enough outputs coming out of it that you could feed them all back into each channel in the mixer.

@xirtus Год назад

Dude I'm so sad my 1640i won't work with my Mac right now. I wish they would open source the drivers or something.

@Frogdealer Год назад

Thanks a lot! I didn't know that this came out. But the lack of usb playback switches for each channel makes it worthless for me. Not at least because I'd like to connect it to my mpc and be able to mix my hardware synths with mpc stuff. The same would be when I use ableton. I wonder why you didn't mention the soundcraft mtk22. I was thinking mtk22 or model 24. Now I'm going to buy the model 12 for it's portability and the 2 headphone outs.

@niclaswingstrom3127 9 месяцев назад

Is it correct to assume that you can get a wet recording with eq and fx engaged if one records to an sd card or through the usb send?

@michaels5166 Год назад

I love my Mackie..I do know they have limits,yet not where it counts,the transparent ,clean sound..

@TeftyMeems Год назад

Agreed!

@DarkZ34 Год назад

If I’m using the usb into a daw, do the tracks have the eq and effects from the board? Or are they like a direct track? Asking because Id like to edit it after the show with as clean of a track as possible

@DagToreLarsen 9 месяцев назад

I'm considering buying Onyx12 as a small tracking console for my home studio. I had previously AH Zed16R but it broke. I am doing mainly easy recordings. People come and want to record their vocal using pre recorded karaoke tracks as backing music. I do have an Audient evo16 audio soundcard but making monitor mixes on that is complicated. I think using Onyx12 doing traking (recording/overdubs) would be good as I can use the onboard fx unit to the headphone mix (Nobody like to sing dry). And the 4 usb out channels (from the DAW into the mixer) would be enough to send a monitor mix to the artist. I use Focusrite ISA One as Mic pre into line input. For mixdown and summing I would consider Mackie 2404VLZ4 or 3204VLZ4 as it have insert on every mono channel, on every subgroup, even on every aux channel. My Audient have 2xadat out + 8 analog so 24 outputs.

@Hoodyhoo504 Год назад

Love your vids. Hoping that you do a video with this and the MPC. I'm not sure it'll work but I am curious. Had a Profx10v3 and it didn't play well so want to see if this plays better. The Onyx16 would be great if multitracking works.

@TeftyMeems Год назад

Will test it out soon! Meems has the Live 2 currently and our One is wrapped up in an expansion pack project currently 👀

@Hoodyhoo504 Год назад

@@TeftyMeems nice! I’ll keep a watchful eye for your upcoming endeavors!

@dracul74 Год назад

I still use my Soundcraft Signature analog mixer all the time. I tried going without it and I missed the subtle analog vibes it adds to my sound while tracking. About 1/2 time I make the effort to use it for mixing and summing too. I do have “better” 500 series gear… but something about the mixer format appeals to me more. The only thing I use more is my UA 4-710d.

@TeftyMeems Год назад

Oooo those 4-710 are sweet! I need to pickup a Soundcraft at some point. Always here good things about them.

@AntonovichHicksenbrau 15 дней назад

PSU & USB problems plague the Signature series. Has been my experience. YMMV

@b1rd317 Год назад

Can you review your 1640i? Seems interesting

@Siamese328 10 месяцев назад

Sorry I am confused. At the end you mention that this mixer is USB multi-tracking. Somewhere in the video you also mention that it can't be used as a SD card multi-tracking recorder? Sorry I am new to this and I did buy this mixer yet to be delivered. I am planning on connecting 3 synthesizers and using Presonus studio live. So what I would like to do is record one of the keyboards arpeggios, then adding more synths to my song. So each synth would use 2 channels. Can I record directly to the SD card and stage the sounds as I like? Can I also add my electronic drum kit and or a guitar and stage those as well? Panning left right?

@gibson2623 7 месяцев назад

How do you go with direct outs into a Daw with the 1640i? Normal soundcards don t have that expansion kind of thing ......Thanks :)

@k3wlzyz0p Год назад

Thank you, I'm considering Onyx16 now! Tascam Model 12 sounds like a perfect solution for me if it had more inputs. And Tascam Model 16 has a different design with inputs on top instead of the back side, which feels significantly less neat for the home studio setup.

@TeftyMeems Год назад

That's a solid option if you don't need multi-tracking to the SD card 👍👍

@Hysteric_Subjects Год назад

I had the Model 16 and now have the Onyx 24 instead. Wish I'd gone with Model 24, having those at the top while ugly is SO convenient. Reaching behind my Jaspers and guessing which ins and outs I'm dealing with is a real bitch.

@k3wlzyz0p Год назад

@@Hysteric_Subjects Well, if you need to plug in and out stuff into the mixer a lot, something like a patch bay sitting nearby might be a good companion :)

@djlenzo8683 Год назад

Will band be ok without the compressor? Or should I go a different route??

@DreadinNY 11 месяцев назад

Please help. I am mainly looking to mix using my Akai MPC Live II via USB. I probably will not use much outboard gear. I am a sample based producer. I am trying to decide between The Onyx 16, The Tascam Model 16 and the SOundcraft. Help!

@andajazz 6 месяцев назад

Does the Mackie Onyx do Multitrack recording to Apple IPad with the CCK?

@boobo3763 Год назад

I would ABSOLUTELY consider this. Unrivaled in how many line-ins it has -Nothing else in that price range with that many line-ins. That's really what this unit is good for, imo. Skip all the eq's and whatnot... The Tascam model 24 has the edge, there...

@peteryousef5177 Год назад

please, I want to ask. if i have a personal monitor mixer behringer p16 and i have an analog mixer but i do not have a direct out . So what should I do ? to change from insert to direct out.

@jaixiviii Год назад

Dawless: Tascam or Mackie with MPC Live/One/X ?

@eqp99grind28 Год назад

Great content! I am curious if maybe you have some info. I have been using my Mackie 1640i firewire for years now. I absolutely love the mixer and the capabilities. Recently I thought I'd treat myself to a new mac... to my surprise (and severe disappointment) it was no longer compatible with the upgraded OS ventura that it came along with. Is there a known work around for this that you've heard of? Thanks any help would be greatly appreciated. I have been having a hard time deciding which new mixer to go with if it's really necessary. I can only use my 2013 macbook for so long :(.

@TeftyMeems Год назад

Thank you! Yeah FireWire is officially deprecated at this point. I’ve been using the 1640i purely as an analog board because of the direct outs.

@Kevinjames0976 3 месяца назад

Hello Tefty, have you tried this mixer with an MPC? And does the MPC recognize it as an Audio interface?

@ron-almog 2 месяца назад

How is that line compares to Zoom L-12 ?

@dark_fredbear4093 Год назад

That's a nice mixer man I really want that mixer and I might by this soundboard keyboard

@mgmg116 Год назад

It hasn't been released yet, and probably never will be

@jasonstokes5469 Год назад

Just happy to find something that records 24/96 on as many tracks. Everything else I've looked at that does is over 3 to 5 grand and up.

@pontram 11 месяцев назад

Be careful, that feature is only available via USB, not for SD card.

@zwockelbart8226 5 месяцев назад

I need your help, i now got the Onyx24 and wanna use it in ableton live, but ableton dont find it as midi mixer, what can i do?

@nothingmemorable486 7 месяцев назад

Hmm... I have been waiting for some more options in this area and maybe this is a decent board for me. However I am still not totally convinced. On the other hand getting clean audio into my DAW & or my MPC is my priority. What are your thoughts on the Soundcraft MTK's?? I have the Notepad 12fx at mo which has served me well but I really want more simultaneous channels

@YAWN.... 22 дня назад

I have had the MTK12 for a few years. The MTKs Eq section shits all over the Mackie Eqs. I bought the Mackie 24 Premium, the mic pres were great but because of woofy Eqs it now sits on the shelf...

@IIIElijah 11 месяцев назад

I'm spoiled by my x2 aw2400's with y96k's from Yamaha and Waves.

@11000038 Год назад

I curse the million options on my x32. However I now appreciate what I have. X32 is nearly double though.

@ivanravello5687 Месяц назад

//// greetings , i see the channel 23/24 designed for bluetooth and usb and a computer are lack of equalization knots , how can I equalize the music come from those devices ???? looking for a mixer with a least two aux out mostly for live gigs , one for the singer the other one for the trumpeter and the trombonist ///// greetings from Perú ///////

@andajazz 6 месяцев назад

Don the Onyx Mixers work with IPad, esp. send all Multitrack to IPad? Have you tried it?

@achmedabadoba5478 Год назад

Regarding the 23/24 channel: On my Onyx 1640i I also have to use 13/14(system) and 15/16(DAW) for Audio output from the Computer. So I only use 12 channels, which is way enough if you don't want to record a whole band

@TeftyMeems Год назад

Totally agree! Plenty of channels. Our synth studio use-case is a bit extreme with the number of inputs we typically use. We have a couple "stations" in the studio and the MOTU interface allows us to route everything into the DAW at any point.

@robertbarnett2132 Месяц назад

Why am i getting a weak signal to my recording software?

@wellbeststarloonersmanners7844 5 месяцев назад

How many AUX does it have?

@yatoyato5160 5 месяцев назад

Or you can just press solo instead of mute and see the signal, but still it's better if led indicator is included

@cloud_noises Год назад

My main issue with a lot of these mixers is that it takes a huge amount of space with features that I don't need or want. The EQ section is the worst offender because I'm only interested in recording and I'm always gonna EQ in the DAW, so I would prefer to not have so much space taken up with EQ knobs. My current interface/mixer is a KMI K-mix, which solves this problem in an interesting way with a really flexible interface. The Zoom LiveTrack stuff has a similar cleverly designed interface to reduce the number of knobs and physical real estate. I wish there were more "compact" products like that.

@Noise-Conductor Год назад

I feel bro, I don't need the EQs, so much wasted space. I've been looking into using a stack of line mixers, which is basically a stripped down 19" 1U mixer.

@mgmg116 Год назад

If you don't want onboard EQ, why even bother looking at consoles? Just get an 18i20 or something

@raynbirdmusic Год назад

@Poetic Noise you guys aren't using the tools as intended but bitching about the design... You want physical eq knobs for live audio... For recording you do not want to use an analog mixer... u can. But the sound quality degrades with each piece of electronics u put between the mic and harddrive... A better use of ur money is to buy 1 stereo pre amp and 1 good quality interface. That's literally all u need for recording nowadays. You only get a console for recording and mixing when you are tracking bands and need the faster workflow of a console. When u can just reach and turn a knob and have all the tracks right there it dramatically saves time. Yall are getting shit u don't need or can use then bitching about it... Yall are the ones picking a rocket launcher for a fist fight then complaining about the weight...

@raynbirdmusic Год назад

@@mgmg116 right! They literally aren't using the boards right but bitching about them😂😂😂😂

@jasonstokes5469 Год назад

While you can EQ in the box, it's always best to capture the frequency you want on the way in. Otherwise you're missing out

@charlescowper 4 месяца назад

Hello is the multitracking taken post fader? Thanks.

@TeftyMeems 4 месяца назад

Nope, pre-fader

@KosmoDeuz Год назад

But What About 1640i ? does it still works with the new Ios? And what you can tell about its Interface quality?

@andrewhorton5101 Год назад

They’re great but don’t work with iOS

@SmudgerTWR Год назад

Hi I was hoping you could help. I’ve got a onyx 12. Channel 13 / 14 has a drum machine going through it and I can hear it on the mixer, however when I try to record the input 13/14 on ableton (I have selected the relevant options in the preferences) the whole desk is being recorded rather than the individual 13/14 channel. I have tried the usb send button but when I press that no signal at all is being recorded. Is this correct? Shouldn’t I get a individual signal for 13/14 in ableton? Thanks in advance.

@TeftyMeems Год назад

Hi Anthony, that's how the Onyx mixers are setup. The last channel pair is the whole mix on the board. You can even switch it to send to channel 1/2 for things like OBS Studio etc ... If you want to track the drum machine separately, you'll need to patch it into a different set of channels. That 13/14 channel is more of a live convenience channel.

@SmudgerTWR Год назад

@@TeftyMeems ah ok. Thanks a lot for your help. Really appreciate it!

@joesalyers Год назад

I love that they made it a 96K interface but it can only record multitrack the major downside to this if you read the manual is it can only bring back 2 stereo channels to the mixer so you can only mix 4 channels at mixdown. What a bummer. The EQ as far as I can tell from reading the manual does not get recorded since the converter is before the EQ. So basically it's a Analog mixer for small bands to rehearse with and record their practice with. I would have bought one for on location recording if it would have had better audio routing but for now it's basically just a 18x4 channel usb interface with 18 mic inputs and 4 DAW returns. The 96K is what really peaked my interest since I work at that sampling rate but it is a no go for me. So I will still have to wait until someone makes a good workable interface/mixer combo for me. I have tracked with a console for well over 25 years and have a 56 channel soundcraft MH-2 in my studio right now. The mackie would have been a great companion for on location recording but the it's just not up to modern standards. I will still have to drag around an Allen & Heath SQ6 for for on location sessions for bands that want to record at their rehearsal space. Great review by the way!! I subscribed, its nice to see honesty in pro audio reviews!! Cheers!

@BattleAngelSound Год назад

It seems that it's not going to happen to have Post-EQ/Post-Fader Multitrack recording via USB. Not in that price range anyway. It's what I need really. It seems that we are in minority and everyone is doing mixers Pre-EQ, because "you don't want to print EQ to your tracks". I thin that I'll take it anyway because I need a mixer for my synths and I work in 96kHz. I wanted to take Soundcraft MTK but it seems to affect sound in a way that I don't like (making it mushy, soft), then one of Allen&Heath mixers but then I realized that it's recoding only in 16Bits like it's 90s once again :D And it's like that will all of them: if one has feature X, then Y is missing, other has feature Y but Z is missing etc. Maybe one day, maybe.

@mgmg116 Год назад

Why are y'all recording in 96KHz anyway? Is there a specific request made of you to provide material at 96KHz? Because there is literally no other reason (other than time-stretching audio) to record/work in anything above 48KHz

@joesalyers Год назад

@@mgmg116 Well I do since labels request hi-res sessions for archiving and have been for about 10 years. 96K is the actual standard for label releases since their are outlets that provide digital downloads of hi-res content. There are benifits to 96K and aliasing is a real issue. You can blame the Lavery company for making 96K a standard since his white paper on the matter explained in detail why 64K would be the proper sampling rate but since we don't really have 64K sampling rate labels choose 96K. Universal which has 30 different labels under it's umbrella has required hi-res sessions since 2013, and DSD masters. They cater to audiophiles now days because of Hi-res digital & vinyl sales. Audiophiles are the only ones really buying digital audio since everyone else just listens to spotify or youtube music. But I thought the mackie would be a cool little tool for going to a bands rehearsal space and doing demos with it before they come into the studio and work on a proper record. If you are putting out your own music then 48K is fine but I do have the majority of my clients and their labels ask for the session to be done at 96k and its their money and their music so I just do my job. It's not my place to tell them that 96K is not important because if its important to them then I do it. It's my day job and I don't get to tell them no, since they would go somewhere else to get exactly what they want. Cheers.

@BattleAngelSound Год назад

@@mgmg116 I moved to 96kHz a few years ago when I discovered that some plugins (synths and distortion effects mainly) sound better in higher sample rate. I didn't bother with oversampling and waiting when other devs will bring that option (now it's more common). It's simply easier to set project to e.g. 96kHz and forget. I work as a sound designer and yes, pitch-shifting and other pitch manipulation are quite common for me. Besides that, sometimes I also like to take a recording of a synth and slow down it by let's say 50%. With higher sample rate I'm not loosing any quality + I can hear what was hidden above my hearing range :) Actually there are reasons why it's worth to work in higher sample rates. You can read for example 'working ITB at higher sampling rates' written by Variety of Sounds - a plugin developer.

@lastfanstanding999 10 месяцев назад

You're totally fkkking...... Smart, Dude ! 😳👍🇺🇸

@JESUSHAUDIO 3 месяца назад

I dont think the model 24 acts as a daw controller. I think its only the 12 and 16. Would live a mixer that was truely 24 mono channels that also gave you fader control in a daw

@RICHIE11420 8 месяцев назад

Can we multitrack in Mac osx … watched many reviews but was never clear about this one thing … need a mixer to Multi Track same way L+R for zoom can it be done or is the Tascam model better in this ?

@TeftyMeems 8 месяцев назад

Yes, you can multi track in Mac. Just recently did it.

@RICHIE11420 8 месяцев назад

@@TeftyMeems awsme tk u soo much

@DG-ss1gc 11 месяцев назад

I’ve wasted a lot of $$ on mackie gear that sounded great but didn’t last more than a year. Mackie tried to blame power being dirty. I eventually had a pretty expensive AC rig with a copper wire that went out into the yard and hooked to a grounding rod hammered 3 feet deep into the ground. Still had capacitor failure. I have owned 8 pairs of Mackie monitors, I kept buying them because I liked the sound and at first I believed them that it may have been my fault (it wasn’t, it wasn’t until I tried to fix them myself that I found out they put a .20 cent capacitor when a 1.50 capacitor would have made all the difference in the world. I just wish I could find a mixer this good that has 6+ stereo in, but I need it to last ! It’s not about money it’s about having a studio you can rely on .

@unclemick-synths Год назад

Good review 👍. In the 80s this mixer would have cost serious dough! My humble Tascam 244 cost me three months wages. Amazing value we get these days. This one isn't for me though this could replace the multiple mixers I have in my studio. The split is actually useful - I don't have a fixed setup so I have one mixer for jamming/recording and another mixer for my keyboard rack for having fun during my piano practice - Mozart on a Wurly? Why not? 😎 I have a 90s Spirit Folio that has similar limitations. I don't find it too bad to use the two pre-fade sends as my recording outputs to my MPC One but confusion can arise if I forget to turn them back down! If I'm recording I'll use the stereo inputs for stereo synths but if I'm mixing direct to stereo I avoid feeding stereo keyboards that way because apart from hitting the mono button the quickest way to narrow a mix is to stack hard-panned stereo synths - the exception being wide ambient pads. For returns it is handy to be able to low-cut effects to avoid mud and dip the upper mids to make space.

@TeftyMeems Год назад

Solid points! And yes, the value is crazy compared to 20-30 years ago. We're all spoiled producers today 🤣🤣

@pontram 11 месяцев назад

I thought you were wrong with the missing ability of multitrack recording to SD-card. On their product page, Mackie says "Multitrack Recording via USB or SD card, up to 24-bit/96kHz", which I understood as it is written. But if one looks into the manual, one sees that you can only record the stereo mix to SD. I find the statement on the product page really misleading. I mean, multitrack is more than two tracks...

@helldrenn Год назад

There are some differences that do seem to me to be very wide between a Tascam Model 24 and this one. First, and most important: the quality of the preamps. In my experience I would not record with Tascam preamps, the results are not satisfactory. The Onyx preamps are quite decent and I would put them in the upper mid-range. The difference in the A/D - D/A converters is wide. I speak from my experience. The second is the sampler rate between the two. Tascam only records 16/24 - 44.1 and 16/24 - 48 kHz. Mackie Onyx records at 24 - 96 kHz which is a big difference. I think if you are looking for a result close to professional, you can not save yourself from having to route the analog outputs of your interfaces to the console to make your mix down with a better dynamic range and with better quality and adding more possibilities in the mix by adding external hardware such as a 500 series, for example. I think there are differences between a render and a bounce.

@mgmg116 Год назад

In all honesty, most of these manufacturers could forget about 96KHz on their converters and consider putting more I/O into the unit's production budget instead. Higher samplerates are only useful if you're heavily time-stretching or if a client has made that specific demand, there's literally no other reason to go above 48KHz. Plus, these mixers (MTK 22, Model 24, Livetrak L-20, etc) only have like 2-5 auxes and few onboard channels with inserts as well as line ins. The whole point of a mixer is flexible routing and sacrificing I/O while upping samplerate to improve overhead makes no sense when you consider it's literally defeating the purpose of having a mixer in the first place

@achmedabadoba5478 Год назад

Like for a video on the Motu Interface

@bahutu802 Год назад

What a nice example of a review being objective although a device was sent over for free. Thanks for that! Such a device would be beyond my hobby producer scope, however I guess if it _was_ relevant for me, I'd certainly miss some routing capabilities on it. But I guess it's always risky to project (home) studio expectations onto something which is traditionally more geared towards mixing live performances...

@TeftyMeems Год назад

My guess is a 16 channel would be more than enough for most people. The USB multi-tracking is what really sets it apart, even from the VLZ line and blends it into a studio/live mixer. Thanks for watching 🙏

@bahutu802 Год назад

@@TeftyMeems My dream mixer would have the whole channel design flipped over: Very few mono / mic channels, plenty of stereo channels, 5 pre-fader stereo (FX) sends and returns or so etc... I guess a lot of my cravings could be solved much easier by instead using a decent patch bay though.

@lamasteve6905 9 месяцев назад

Use you other interface for the other situations. It's for recording USB/Chip or Bluetooth. Bluetooth and wifi can carry 24 bit sound ? Wires might be a thing of the past soon !

@lamasteve6905 9 месяцев назад

Movie people are been into 24 bit wireless for ten years or more so can we wifi or wirelessly record at 24 bit/96hz ? Yes all the recent movies have been doing this ! Daw and interface music is about to change !

@lamasteve6905 9 месяцев назад

Use computer/daw and MCU for lighting up the board in mix ! No Daw No Brain !

@hristokaragyozov6998 8 месяцев назад

Mackie try to compete with tascam model 24. The same features, the same odd things. Compared to Onyx 1640i - eq section is no more 4-channel; Auxes - twice less; inserts - only on 4 channels; no direct outs no groups; no master inserts; no sub outs, because no subgroups. I hope they kept the talkback mic.. The good things - bluetooth; usb compared to firewire; sd card option. The idea for going from computer to outboard mixer is to be able to mix outside of the box. Otherwise why to do such a thing? With this cut-offs it is no longer possible.

@luciustodd1317 Год назад

I have been looking the Onyx series mixers. I have Mackie Pro Fx10v3 mixer but my eyes are on the Tascam Model 12 which one you think is better The Onyx series or The Tascam Model 12. I want to be able to EQ and Compress before the Daw and it’s printed in the Daw. I think the Tascam allows you to do that. Which board has the best sound quality.

@TeftyMeems Год назад

Hi Lucius, I think the Onyx takes the edge in overall sound quality. The Tascam is the only one with a compressor, but I wouldn't rely on it for everything (it's more of a "compress in a live situation" type of compressor). Both are great honestly, just keep in mind the limitations 👍

@TeleporterM11 Год назад

Does this. Mixer work with the Akai MPCs

@TeftyMeems Год назад

It should, since it's class compliant. I couldn't test it because our MPCs are tied up in other projects atm.

@christopherspencer7910 Месяц назад

Yes it works with my key 61 MPC

@dougharsch8407 Год назад

Soundcraft Signature 22 MTK Mixer?

@YAWN.... 22 дня назад

I have the MTK 12. I bought the Onyx 24 and the Eq section of the MtK12 shits on the Onyx 24.

@JesusSanchez-pz1ii Год назад

I need interface o no

@bzprod Год назад

Wayyyy too much cost cutting on this one. Seems like a great form factor though, so maybe a future iteration will address the shortcomings.

@TeftyMeems Год назад

Yep, could be addressed in the future. But also the price is pretty killer for 20 preamps all multi-tracked via USB.

@keyboardkingpin Год назад

That's a clean analog mixer. Great demo! You ever hear about Roland's Rarest analog mixer? Cool unit I did a video on it very sleek. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bLrIFl0gCFA.html

@habacucgarza1509 Год назад

No onboard compressors is a deal breaker for me.

@TonyThomas10000 Год назад

Great overview...I think that product is designed more for live sound. The VLZ4 series would be better for studio use.

@TeftyMeems Год назад

Thanks Tony! I'd agree on the live sound angle if it wasn't for the USB multi-tracking. Currently the VLZ4 can only output a stereo mix from the board, so this Onyx board is way more flexible on the recording/USB side than the VLZ4. Now if the VLZ line added full USB multi-tracking 👀

@TonyThomas10000 Год назад

@@TeftyMeems What I am guessing is that Mackie thinks studios are more likely to have a patch bay and an audio interface with multiple inputs. But I agree, it would be cool if they would add that capability.

@seazenbones6945 Год назад

Switched off at the phantom power.

@kirkanos771 Год назад

All of my synths are stereo. Only 4 channels among 18 ? really ? I'm not gonna fiddle with pairs of mono to map stereo.

@pontram 11 месяцев назад

I am doing that all the time. None of those mixers are for synth musicians. So many preamps which we never use. If ever, I would need 2. However, I put Outputs L and R of Synth A into Mix In 1 & 2, pan Channel 1 to L and Channel 2 to R. Next synth, B, same on Mixer Channels 3 and 4. Yes, it feels weird, and I think it's idiotic, but you won't find a Mixer that is only for us. Except something like Behringer RX1602. I also use that. It's a bit sparse . But for monitoring purposes it's okay.

@andrewhorton5101 Год назад

It’s absolutely offensive how many features they stripped out over the last gen Onyx mixers. These aren’t worthy successors.

@mgmg116 Год назад

Not to mention that they STILL haven't been released yet. But out of curiosity what other features did the older Onyx generation have?

@andrewhorton5101 Год назад

@@mgmg116 Compared to my 10-year-old 1640i, they have - removed the inserts cut the aux sends in half from 6 to 3 removed the 4 stereo aux returns removed subgroups way stripped down the monitoring section phantom power appears to be universal instead of per channel Removed channel metering Much more

@mgmg116 Год назад

@@andrewhorton5101 Oh wow. I've been on the lookout for an analog mixer for awhile now, and those features sound pretty good. Are there any models from that particular lineup that have more channels? Like a 2440i or a 3240i? I was looking at the Soundcraft GB4 because it has 32 channels, and was going to pair it up with a pair (or trio, for more outboard processing) of Ferrofish Pulse converters and an RME Digiface. But if I can get something cheaper to set up, I will. It sounds like the 1640i comes with quite a few features I happen to be looking for, including that impressive aux out count and per-channel phantom.

@andrewhorton5101 Год назад

@@mgmg116 the line unfortunately topped out at the 1640i, which still punches well above its weight. I know of people using two of them hanged up as an aggregate audio device. I use it aggregated with a MOTU 828 with an additional 16 channels going into the MOTU over ADAT from two Behringer 8200’s. I dream of Tascam doing a Model 32 with proper inserts and more aux sends though!

@mgmg116 Год назад

@@andrewhorton5101 I'd love a 32-channel analog/digital hybrid with onboard eq, per-channel phantom, and USB multitrack abilities. But I'm also okay with going for a cheap, used large format FOH console and additional outboard needed to integrate it. Just going to take a bit to save up for that haha. Right now I'm running just my DAW and a Scarlett 18i20

@TFan-vv8lr Год назад

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@christopherspencer7910 Месяц назад

People looking for perfection i understand i have it and it sounds better than my tascam model 12, there are workarounds for multiple recording in a DAW

@DarkZ34 Год назад