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Subaru 5-Speed Center Diff Replacement 

TwoFourSevenDIY
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Turns out the used transmission I installed on the forester had a bad center diff, so I swap out the one from the old transmission to solve the issue
00:00 - Intro
01:07 - Salvaging Center Diff From Old Transmission
03:57 - Prepping To Remove Bad Center Diff
05:04 - Removing Transmission Cradle
05:49 - Disconnecting Shifter Linkages
07:30 - Removing Bad Center Diff
10:21 - Installing "New" Center Diff
21:33 - Discussing Subaru Diff Issues
25:08 - Gear Oil Type Matters!
26:13 - Testing
27:13 - Outro

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@glennhollowell2514
@glennhollowell2514 2 года назад
Nice work guy. Appreciate the good lighting, sharp focus, and concise narration.
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
Thanks for the comment! Glad you enjoyed it.
@facundosanchez7877
@facundosanchez7877 2 года назад
The best explanation I´ve seen regarding this stuff. Regards from Argentina. BTW my Forester has the same issue
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
Thanks man! And I hope you get our Forester fixed up!
@Christosan88
@Christosan88 Год назад
Great video. Clean organized garage, concise clear info. Great job, I learned.
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
Thanks!
@slickraft
@slickraft 2 года назад
Hint: Should have left several loose bolts in the tail piece before using the slide hammer so the part would come off in a more controlled manner. Thanks for the video. Getting ready to do this repair on my Bugeye wagon at 200K miles.
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
Yea that would have helped. Good luck with your bugeye! ... I've also got a bugeye wrx that will be in an upcoming video
@roscoefunnydog
@roscoefunnydog Год назад
Funny enough, same car and same problem 😂
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
You get it fixed?
@slickraft
@slickraft Год назад
@@TwoFourSevenDIY Yup. Easy job actually. Only pain was paying for the dealer part $$. I wasn't willing to DIY experiment with draining and refilling the silicone fluid in the diff as my WRX is a daily driver so I only wanted to do the work once.
@dancarter482
@dancarter482 Год назад
@@TwoFourSevenDIY Just doing my Legacy : wound a whole forester trans' in four years ago, now the C. dif' has given up, got a replacement to go in the original Legacy box so swapping everything back. Forester is lower geared - great for towing but terrible top-end and mileage! Great video, thanks.
@MrSoulMonk
@MrSoulMonk 11 месяцев назад
Great video! Thank you! The diffs seem to go bad on a lot of these vehicles. My 2010 Legacy is in the shop for the same issue at the moment.
@robertgrant6837
@robertgrant6837 Год назад
Just completed the replacement of the viscous coupler on a 2018 Impreza 5spd which was burnt up by the previous owner with non-matching tires. 2 items stand out on the repair (1) the pin on the shifter shaft would not come so after a few hours of frustration I went to O'Reilly auto and bought a $25. chisel hammer and took the punch tool that came with the tool put it in a vise and ground the point off until it was large enough to drive the large pin out ---the small pin came out quiet easily--- the pin was a real bitch to get back in on the assembly but the chisel hammer worked. The other pisser (2) was getting the rear case to split, after a few hours of beating I gave up and used the old standby trick the trusty screw driver both big and small. After removing the case I took a file and cleaned up the bruises caused by the screw drivers which by the way were not that bad---about 15 minutes with a fine file and the repair was made on both faces. The gasket I had bought from Subaru which was ordered to match my vin-- was not even close so Permatex RTV was applied and I only did the case surface with a fairly liberal coating---and did it squeeze out nice when tightening the case bolts. The total repair time including driving the car in and jacking etc all time to complete the repair and test drive with just under 11 hours. Without the chisel hammer and using screwdrivers I would not have been able to do the job. If you have the funds and don't want to deal with the frustrations I would highly recommend giving the job to a Subaru shop. The trans oil used was used was Royal Purple Class GL-5 W75-90. Now that I have done the replacement once and now some short cuts I would do it again---the first time around is always and learning experience and there no bolts, nuts or parts left over.
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
Yea sometimes things can go not according to plan. But I'm glad you got it done!
@hanchua
@hanchua Год назад
clicking sound resolved on my 2018 Crosstrek 6MT. Thank you!!!!
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
No problem, glad the video was useful to your situation!
@strykerentllc
@strykerentllc Год назад
Excellent video tutorial 👍
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
Thanks!
@guylr7390
@guylr7390 2 года назад
Well done.The bolts are 10mm with 14mm heads.
@federicoesposito7938
@federicoesposito7938 2 года назад
Excelente video, muchas gracias!
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
Thanks!
@kakeetoalex9924
@kakeetoalex9924 7 месяцев назад
Good video.. thank you sir!
@brandonhayes1988
@brandonhayes1988 7 часов назад
Good vid thanks man
@robertgrant6837
@robertgrant6837 Год назад
I will attempt to repair the coupler and if successful I will have a spare for when I screw up in the futuere.
@jimness306
@jimness306 2 года назад
I am wondering if you found any torque settings for the nine 14mm bolts that hold the center dif housing to the main box. Also what kind of torque do you give to the drain plug?
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
I could not find specific torque values for those. I just make sure they are good and tight, no issues so far.
@wei2c00l
@wei2c00l 2 года назад
Wow, great explanation on the issue. I have the same problem on my forester. is this a immediate fix issue or can it be driven as its not really affect daily drive. thanks in advance.
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
Im not a professional mechanic ... but I would say its not something that requires an immediate fix. But I wouldnt let it go forever either, I would say that the binding would put undue stress on axle/trans/steering componants.
@ittotaq
@ittotaq 2 года назад
How do you remove the bearing race that's stuck in the transmission? The race that goes around that little bearing on the shaft
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
Hmm, I'm not 100% sure about that. I've never had a need to replace bearings when I've done this. Best guess would be a blind bearing puller tool. Sorry I couldn't offer more help
@DaniiLBaybee
@DaniiLBaybee Год назад
As soon as I have the first line, I knew these were my people 😂😩 #subaruproblems
@hanchua
@hanchua Год назад
informative video and well explained symptoms for failed center diff. is the center diff come a whole or components? check with my local subaru dealer, they sold me separate parts for the cylinder and the other components inside. when you got your new is it the whole round thing? thank you.
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
I was under the impression that the center diff was not rebuildable and the whole unit had to be replaced. Maybe I was wrong. Anyway, I didn't buy a new one I used the one out of the original 5 speed that had a failed shaft bearing.
@hanchua
@hanchua Год назад
@@TwoFourSevenDIY thanks for all the information. Educational and informative content. looking ahead for more videos.
@John_Benson
@John_Benson 2 года назад
So I’m having the exact issue on the same car with the same wrecker trans a few months after install. I see you also used the smurf blood and I’m wondering if that has a compatibility issue with the center diff? Or if we are both unlucky!
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
Thanks for commenting ... very weird that you ended up with the same scenario. It's hard to know for sure what caused it but I do think it's just a bad luck scenario ... I've done a ton of research on the surf's blood and didn't come across anyone mentioning it not playing nice with the center diff
@Mr_BUSINESS_24_7
@Mr_BUSINESS_24_7 3 месяца назад
Why must it not have friction modifiers in the gear oil ? isn't the viscous coupling a sealed unit with its own silicone fluid inside the sealed unit ? Also, with the center diff bearings subject to all that excessive force when the diff was binding... ...why wouldn't you change the other (3) center diff housing bearings too ?
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 3 месяца назад
Refilling with the proper oil isn't about the center diff, the syncros in the transmission don't mesh properly if you use an oil with lsd friction modifiers. If you were concerned about the other bearing, you could absolutely change them if you wanted to. In my case, I didn't feel it was nessessary so I didnt.
@bmeyerink
@bmeyerink 2 года назад
Thanks for the great video. Do you know the torque specs for the 14mm bolts for transfer case?
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
You're welcome. No, I couldn't find a specific torque spec for them, just tightened them down good and tight
@bmeyerink
@bmeyerink 2 года назад
@@TwoFourSevenDIY Ok thanks
@bratishka93
@bratishka93 2 года назад
Do turbo and non turbo 5MT speed has same center differential? Talking about 2004-2009 years
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
Hmm, it looks like compatibility is hit or miss. Here is a link to the wrx center diff. It lists all compatible models ... see if your vehicle is here. Just click the "what this fits" tab parts.bestbuysubaru.com/p/Subaru__/Center-Differential/49248160/38913AA102.html
@jeffflowers729
@jeffflowers729 2 года назад
what's the problem with LS additive? You can use it in non LS rear diffs without doing harm. That's why it's in most of the gear oils. So what will it do in a gear box? EDIT: my owners manual doesn't say anything about specifically not using LS fluid. Just says GL5
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
The ls additive should not be used with synchronized gears
@edfx
@edfx 2 года назад
With very sticky tires I have torque bind even with FWD car. So can I measure if center diff scientifically some how? Eg. jacking one wheel up and measuring the resistance with torque wrench?
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
I'm not sure on this one man. I'm not at all familiar with FWD setups. Are you sure you don't mean torque steer? That is common on FWD with high-ish hp and sticky or wider tires.
@edfx
@edfx 2 года назад
​@@TwoFourSevenDIY Found out the figures. Center diff should slip 40Nm@100rpm. Mine is about 200Nm@1rpm. Way too stiff. Binds pretty heavily when turning but does not completely lock up.
@JoshuaCox-hh8mi
@JoshuaCox-hh8mi 2 месяца назад
I bought a paper gasket for my t case cover, should I use silicone instead?
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 месяца назад
I would use RTV if it were me
@247jeffmarshall
@247jeffmarshall Год назад
Would this be the same Center diff as a 2011 Subaru wrx 5 speed?
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
Sorry for the late reply, but yes the part number 38913AA102 does show compatible with 2011 2.5L WRX
@timothywright9781
@timothywright9781 Год назад
Do I have to replace the whole diff unit or can I just replace the bearing?
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
Are you referring to whether or not it can be rebuilt? From the research I did, my understanding is that they are not serviceable, the diff needs to be replaced.
@jamessuttles1824
@jamessuttles1824 2 года назад
Good vid buddy I like that poster @mightycarmods. My car is doing the same thing after 30min of driving turning pops and binds bad so am guessing this is the problem .
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
Thanks! If you go ahead a replace the diff, be sure to leave an update on whether it solved the issue for you!
@jamessuttles1824
@jamessuttles1824 2 года назад
That was it buddy! I appreciate for sure a subscriber thanks!
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
Glad to hear it!
@jacobmartinez5673
@jacobmartinez5673 2 года назад
was the popping and binding after you turn the wheel and start to go. cuz i think this is starting to happen on my wagon. i think it’s the cv axles but it could be this too
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
I only noticed it in reverse with the wheel completely at full lock. The sensation was like the front inside wheel was "hopping" while clicking. If you are getting a clicking/snapping while making a forward turn from a stop, it's probably a CV axle, I had one go bad a while back and those were my symptoms
@jacobmartinez5673
@jacobmartinez5673 2 года назад
@@TwoFourSevenDIY it happens on partially turning too.
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
Sounds more like CV to me
@gettingpast4391
@gettingpast4391 2 года назад
CV joints click, center diff binds... totally different, very loud and disturbing thumps
@liboy9844
@liboy9844 Год назад
Is it possible to just overhaul or recondition the center differential? Thanks.
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
My understanding that the center diff cannot be rebuilt.
@liboy9844
@liboy9844 Год назад
@@TwoFourSevenDIY Ok thanks.
@PeterPresti
@PeterPresti Год назад
Yes. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SHdASVC0xSU.html
@logan6290
@logan6290 11 месяцев назад
I’ve got a loud banking/jerking once I’m in any gear and give it some beans which sounds like a cv axle but it’s not what could this be?
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 11 месяцев назад
Without being in the vehicle and experiencing it, it's hard to say, based on that description it could be one of many things
@logan6290
@logan6290 11 месяцев назад
How can I send you a video of what it’s doing on stands
@logan6290
@logan6290 11 месяцев назад
When I turn it fully to the left or the right it makes this pop noise and occasionally going straight the worst is on turns so this would be cv axles and not the front differential correct?
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 11 месяцев назад
@logan6290 Sounds like bad CV joint, yea
@chitboxadventures7225
@chitboxadventures7225 Год назад
This may be a bad way to put this but my 01 Subaru Forester locked up during the snow, not the motor but the drivetrain after about 2 hours of driving, tires will spin with the open diff, but going into gear it dies and can not move without being drug, along with tires either spinning in opposite directions or staying in place flat spotting my tires!! Any info? Thanks and much appreciated
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
Rear tires are locked or front?
@chitboxadventures7225
@chitboxadventures7225 Год назад
All will spin as normal when jacked up, of course going opposite directions but that’s it, won’t engage and go the same direction
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
That's normal when In the air, it's the way the diffs work, if you jack the car up and spin one wheel forward the opposite side should spin backward
@chitboxadventures7225
@chitboxadventures7225 Год назад
That’s not my problem, I know that’s normal. But like I said when I’m gear or even neutral, it don’t/can’t move on its own power, drivetrain is completely locked
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
Let's back up. So when the vehicle is on the ground, the drive train is locked when the vehicle is running and you try to drive with it in gear. When you lift the vehicle off the ground the wheels spin free ... is this with the vehicle running and in gear or turning the wheels by hand?
@robertgrant6837
@robertgrant6837 Год назад
great video, I have the same problem with my 2018 Impreza base with 5 spd manual. Can you tell me the Subaru part # for the center dif?
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
38913AA102 appears to be the p# for a 2018 Impreza 2.0L 5MT Sedan
@robertgrant6837
@robertgrant6837 Год назад
@@TwoFourSevenDIY thanks for the part number---coupler ordered---does the bearing on the front/top of the coupler come with the new part?
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
If we are thinking of the same bearing ... yes I'm pretty positive it comes installed on the bearing.
@robertgrant6837
@robertgrant6837 Год назад
@@TwoFourSevenDIY Thanks for the quick reply, I pick up the parts tomorrow---I went with a paper gasket instead of liquid gasket---that way I can get it apart if I mess up the install or the dif fails.
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
The liquid isn't hard to pull apart. I like it cuz it's a little bit of insurance that there won't be any leaks
@ahmadlim3035
@ahmadlim3035 Год назад
Dear friend, what oil are you using for front diff? LSD gear oil or just gear oil? Thank you
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
In a 5mt the trans and diff are all one unit that share the same fluid. You want a 75w90 that DOES NOT have limited slip additive in it
@robertgrant6837
@robertgrant6837 Год назад
75W90 that meets GL5, the bottle/can must show that the oil meets GL5 specs.
@robertgrant6837
@robertgrant6837 Год назад
LSD oil will NOT work with the synchronizers
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
Precisely
@colebraman597
@colebraman597 4 месяца назад
Hello. Planning to tackle this job. Did you have to replace the bearings on the input and output shaft as well? I am having clunking but no whining
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 4 месяца назад
I did not replace them, mine seemed healthy I didn't have any reason to feel like they needed to be replaced.
@colebraman597
@colebraman597 4 месяца назад
@@TwoFourSevenDIY awesome thank you!! What about the shifter linkage bushing? I’ve heard you need to replace that when removed. Just trying to have all my parts ready
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 4 месяца назад
You shouldn't have to but it is a great time to replace the shifter bushings if you've got high mileage and feel like your shifter feel isn't as tight/crisp as it used to be
@colebraman597
@colebraman597 4 месяца назад
@@TwoFourSevenDIY thank you for your help!! Much appreciated
@colebraman597
@colebraman597 4 месяца назад
@@TwoFourSevenDIYwondering how you attached the slide hammer? Did you use a standard 5/8 18 slide hammer?
@20VA
@20VA 5 месяцев назад
can you pull driveline out without draining transmission fluid ???
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 5 месяцев назад
The driveshaft?, Yes you can. A little may run out if the car isn't perfectly level but 99% of it will stay in.
@20VA
@20VA 5 месяцев назад
@@TwoFourSevenDIY ... sweet ... because I don't want to drain tranny fluid until I remove all mechanical components ... just in case I have to put everything back you know ... that way I don't have to WASTE the new fluid just to drain it again in the near future ... ALSO ... do you NEED that slide hammer ??? ...
@20VA
@20VA 5 месяцев назад
​@@TwoFourSevenDIY ... also can you remove the dif without the slide hammer ???
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 5 месяцев назад
The rear cover can be difficult to remove but you can get it off without the slide hammer.
@ThePestilentDefiler
@ThePestilentDefiler 4 месяца назад
How long does this take?
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 4 месяца назад
I didnt really time it but with filming and just going kinda slow doin my thing, I think this was like a few hours of work. If you were determined and working fast, could probably have it done in an hour.
@dicktomasko1553
@dicktomasko1553 Год назад
replace your power steering oring and hard top hose..
@dicktomasko1553
@dicktomasko1553 Год назад
@UCJoLcKZi5B0iOZ9WBKesXHw On the suction side..Yours was noisy usually its sucking air...Subaru ps pumps dont make noise if they don't suck air..
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY Год назад
Yea it only makes noise when completely at full lock, I figure it's not worth the effort when it's silent for 98% of the driving I do
@olds1964
@olds1964 2 года назад
Great video but it would be so much better without the ridiculous music.
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 2 года назад
Hmm. I'll keep that in mind. I generally throw music in so it's not just silence while I'm doing certain things
@ezln29gmail
@ezln29gmail 3 месяца назад
My Damn 2020 base WRX needs this..just past 60 k.. what causes this.. binding big time on slow turns.
@TwoFourSevenDIY
@TwoFourSevenDIY 3 месяца назад
Outside of just general wear and premature failure, it seems the most common cause is uneven tire wear side to side causing different rotation speeds, then over time that causes the diff to wear out and fail
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