Subaru WRX TR vs GR Corolla | No Comparison 

I saw this comment and was like okay whatever. But oh my god😭

Truly the best sponsorship spot I've ever seen.

When Frank Sinatra comes back from the dead to drop a single about TuxMats, it’s serious

TuxMats, yay, but now I gotta go to Arby’s for lunch.

One of the few channels where I don't skip the ad

Haha, Subaru got the vape bros, Mustang got the crowd killer bros, Dodge Charger and Challenger got the takeover, robber and thieves bros!!!!!

Subaru should come with a rainbow flag and an aarp card

HAHAHAHA

And carbon fibre oil drip tray.

Would be pointless here in Aus. Vapes are banned here.

My dad subscribed to both Car & and Driver and Road & Track since I was a kid in the 80s. It didn’t take long for me to figure out that everything in them was advertising.

I've read Car & Driver since the 80's. They are not as good as you make it out.

I should have been more specific. I was referring to C&D in the 60s and 70s, when nearly every road test ended with a wrecked car, a drunken dinner, or an angry manufacturer’s rep. And most of the writing was top shelf.

@@Sashazur Was that a TuxMat shot? I don't know, I'm asking. Generally, the car mags are pushing what's new. The new one wins the comparo and then loses out to the "regular cast" for 10Best. I could write the script.

...Back in my day Jack would keep his homosexuality to himself 😢

It's not that much tbh

That’s what he said.

That’s why everything in America is getting bigger.

@@Anhedonis one v8 sports car in 2024..

That cheese looks horrendous.

Please tell them to release a manual version for the wrx. Their 2022+ wrx mats interfere with the clutch massively, it’s really disappointing. Had to return mine and go with weathertechs.

@@dewjustin all of their mats interfere with the clutch. they say it only bothers some, but it was too distracting for me. thankfully their return policy is great.

@@dewjustin I have a '22 WRX 6mt, and I love my tuxmats! Weathertech is garbage in comparison.

@@steve8803 have fun with the squeaking and squishing of the mat every time you clutch in bud, what a nightmare.

​@@dewjustinfunny I had a similar problem with my 2023 civic sport 6MT. The mats came with a bunch of plastic+Velcro clips that I used to better secure the mat, and I got it so the clutch pedal didn't rub at all. I might have gotten lucky but yeah, had to fiddle with the driver side mat a bit to get it how I wanted. It's been installed for several months now, no issues with rubbing.

It's an absolute steal. Have a 23 premium. Paid around 34.5k, but They weren't offering the deals a year ago that they are today. Absolutely love the car at 10k miles. Had a mishimoto catch can on it for 7k miles, but noticed oil consumption in the colder months. Took it off and the consumption went away. Definitely not worth the trouble if you live anywhere where it gets below freezing. Have heard better things about the IAG AOS, but am just going to leave it stock.

I still have my 04 WRX wagon, coming up on 21 years and 160k miles. Stage 2 tune and still lots of fun. Put winter tires on and she is a blast in snow. Have not had a payment in 17 years. What a great car. Yeas interior sucks compared to now a days. My daily is a 16BRZ.

Same man. I got a 23' base WRX for 28.5 OTD and it blows away anything in its class in terms of value for the dollar. The GRC looks awesome but its almost 10K more than my car and I dont think its worth that

Mazda 3?

@@ragebait988 Mazda 3 with AWD isn't available in 6 speed, at least according to their builder. That spec also starts at 37.5.

Go to Illinois, they can't sell any of them for under msrp there

Tons of GRCs at MSRP around now.

in PA I cant get either without an ADM.

@@KeithSchwerin Classic PA

​@@zadekharbatGRC for under MSRP? Packing my bags and making the trip right now

Just wanted to mention that Bridgestone makes the best rubber on market.

@@WhiteLivesMatterPL No, that's Michelin's crown for sure.

@@EvoraGT430 The worst brand for motorcycles. I recommend michelin only to polish people.

First day on the internet?

Enjoy it, I have a 2023 RS3 with APR catback

This platform was never rallied by Subaru so technically its not a "rally" platform. Does have the heritage though where the Toyota doesn't. Though Toyota did Rally the Celica in the 80's and the Yaris of recent years, still not the same. The Corolla Hatch is also one of the ugliest cars on the road.

​@@eppyzToyota ran a rally prepped version of the E110 Corolla for Group A in the late 90s. As well as the early 80s RWD Corollas ran in group A and N by drivers like Per Eklund.

dude your monologue inspired me

@@eppyz "The Corolla hatch is also one of the ugliest cars on the road." I don't want to know what you think the best looking car on the road is, then, because it's probably a Nissan Juke or a Buick Encore.

yup, holds the fastest time of everything they've tested by 3 seconds.

​@@Natedoc808almost makes the screeching from the "hard core" subie boys seem needless lol subaru knows what they are doing. Much to our jargon

@@ZackNakazora1 never understood the screeching. I love my new WRX, and still love my 02 big eye wagon, but very different machines and loved for different reasons

​@@ZackNakazora1most of the screeching is about the exterior, because it looks gross as hell

​@@Natedoc808 they haven't really tested anything else capable to rally. Seems like they mostly choose things that would be terrible at rallying, and try them through the course. Which is more entertaining in my opinion

You bring a tear to me eye. Well said....it really is a very special car.

How the fuck was it slower than a maxima? They’re not even fast, my brother has one. Lol

A '16 stage 2 wrx with bolt ons would put bus lengths on the cars you mentioned.... My fbo is making 420whp, and that's only because I'm trying to save the trans and clutch...

Had a 2017 premium and lemon lawed it due to the throw out bearing, every cold start would cause the car to squel when pressing and depressing the clutch. Such a shame as I loved the damn car.

​@@ColeWorldNoSandwichI have a 2019 and it's on its third throwout bearing. Total crap. Damn I want a GRC so badly.

20 years later and the WRX still exists. It has a good formula.

To this day I can remember Clarkson summary. The Evo is better in every performative way but on the drive home. He finds himself more drawn to the subaru. Best single sentence summary now almost what? 20 years old?

yeah but the Evo is still running with no issues after 20 yrs and the Subaru is on its 3rd motor so yeah.@@ZackNakazora1

Well, with mods the Subaru will be better. They tuned a WRX to same HP as GR and it smoked the GR. Could be a little bit of driver.

@@In.da.pot.that.some_wap both are ugly though can't fix that so easily🙄

Gotta love a cover of Supermode's Tell Me Why!

Google '1999 Green wrx'. Edit: It was called Acadia Green Pearl Metallic

Ima be wrapping mine green soon lol

@@MrRumcup That's pretty cool, never offered in the US.

Green has usually been reserved for more intelligent car owners.

⁠@@MrRumcup in the USA we got the 1998 2.5RS (WRX body kit with 2.5L ~160hp naturally aspirated engine) in Acadia Green. They are the unicorns, the rarest of all 2.5RS by an order of magnitude. (Our first WRX showed up as the 2002 model year).

Flat out facts

I daily drive a 2006 STi, absolutely would finance a new RS with WRX guts! Been years without a car payment but I'd love them to do a proper RS, they would sell vs the "wrx"

On top of that, they brought the wrx sportswagon to mexico this month but not the US

EXACTLY. If hatches/wagons suck so much then how the hell is the Crosstrek/Outback one of the best selling models for YEARS now? They're honestly delusional and lost the spark. Arguably it all went downhill after 2008 and post 2013/14 was the real nail in the coffin IMO.

I'm glad it's not a hatchback

My GR Corolla is a great daily for my turbo FRS. Highly recommend it

I daily my frs lolll

@@de5pa1r34 I daily the BRZ and love it. But now I live in the mountains and have a 35 mile commute.

@@de5pa1r34 kinda miss dailying the FRS, but I see clients now and I can't be driving a loud and smelly car 😂

Was that for the VB? I remember the VAs being 45/55 for the MT and 40/60 for the CVT.

Funny how that rear bias works when tested 24:50

60/40 cvt

45/55 cvt with rear bias. However the GT has VTD variable torque distribution. So it can send more to the rear , more than 55%

Yaris GRMN would smoke all of these... You guys need to see what Rally drivers have been doing with the 2024 Yaris, they have been pulling off some really CRAZY times and even setting some new world record times for a lot of stages... It's crazy how that little shitbox performs in WRC!

Yes well said I agree. Especially the back seats.

The big windows is definitely something that the Subaru designers got right! I'm really hoping we see a general move in the industry towards larger windows.

​@@bradcomis1066you won't, high belt lines and low rooflines will make windows seem smaller. Thick pillars are safety bonuses and full curtain airbags beef them up further.

@@Hawk7886 Sad, all the safety nannies got their way and drivers have less fun for it

@@mikeydude750 yeah those nannies that hate seeing their loved ones killed in accidents, weird. People with families tend to have their car purchases influenced primarily by safety ratings, and the tests that develop the ratings are constantly getting harder. It wouldn't be such a huge problem if cars were reasonably sized, but there are so many massive trucks and SUVs running around the old style sedan needs to be a tank to survive a collision.

Dad of 3 checking in here - we love our 24 TR. fits the entire family if needed, my bike in the trunk with seats back etc. You won’t be disappointed

​@sasquachjl1228 thanks for the heads up and glad to hear you're enjoying it.

@@gp.5989Just got my premium for 31k a few days ago. They had 2 24s and 2 23s. Went with the 23 just because of the incentive, can’t beat 1.9 apr and 31k

Best mats on the market…….

Quite the difference from the Beef N Cheddar's Mark was wolfing down. 1st time I've heard of Tux Mats because WeatherTechs were always my go to.

Well it is faster to 60 by .5 to a full second based on testing. Also faster in the 1/4 mile by .5 a second. It’s mostly down to weight and power delivery.

IIRC, it's a wrap.

@@billiam247 it still looks good what’s your point

@@Toyota4Life never said it didn't look good. If someone didn't know that's not a factory color they'd be very disappointed if they were ready to stroll into their local Toyota dealership looking for a green GR Corolla. What's your point, jagoff?

Keep going you two 😂

About the only positive it seems to these guys

That’s the engine hp, dynos test how much is actually being delivered to the wheels

​@RiptideOnTop I'm pretty sure he knows that therefore he said bhp, what he's trying to convey is Toyota is either over inflating their numbers or Subaru is underrating theirs, something ain't adding up.

Dyno graphs are available online and they confirm the manufacturer claimed power figures for both to be accurate.

Yaris GRMN would smoke all of these... You guys need to see what Rally drivers have been doing with the 2024 Yaris, they have been pulling off some really CRAZY times and even setting some new world record times for a lot of stages... It's crazy how that little shitbox performs in WRC!

Not at all. Pretty sure they showed the wrx crank hp. Plenty of other dyno runs online show 210-220 wheel hp on the wrx/wrx tr (same engine and trans either way) wrx can't even beat a fwd Elantra N off the line and I've beat plenty with an elantra N. But I couldn't beat a gr corolla for shit. Only time I was able to win against one was at the drag strip with radials.

@@ViaticalGenie4 How come the GRC's was much lower then? With it being 300 hp on paper the 262 made sense to the wheel.

​@@ViaticalGenie4Elantra N is underated from the factory and is 100 lbs lighter than the lightest WRX trim. Its no surprise its quicker. Then again, you have to factor in price difference. I got my 23' base WRX for $28,500 OTD while the EN would realistically be around 35-37K OTD (state dependant)

@alamsas2 yes that does. I'm pretty sure these guys are biased. The whole time they were acting like subarus are impressive. They're horrible. I've owned a few and the only time I enjoyed them was in the snow. Track days were garbage. Upgraded brakes and coilovers helped but I'd rather drive a truck around a track.

50 hp without more tires, suspension and break tuning will just lead to spoiled balance on such a fine car as mx5 is…

@@David_Journey out of the box the MX-5 needs help. It was dancing around on the highway with a poor stock alignment and the body roll was comical. I’ve already put a new set of springs, lowered it a couple inches, added adjustable dampers on it, and changed the alignment to a tighter response. It does really beg for just a bit more mid-range torque. The brakes are great after some different pads and fluid. No big break kit is needed unless you track it. Tires on a car like this are already very good. Perhaps going an inch wider is all you really need. People supercharge the engine all the time and don’t have to make major modifications. I just think it just needs about 230hp and it would be in the sweet spot any more and it’s overpowered.

@@AmericanDuck that body roll is welcome on real world back roads with potholes and imperfection. It is a perfect daily driver

@@David_Journey yes I already know how it drove stock. I own the car. I live in San Diego and it’s full of canyon back roads and sketchy surfaces. I daily my car and do runs with my Miata club. So it lives a full life. I’m telling you now that in stock form it needs some minor adjustments to make it better. That body roll is scary in some corners and the shocks are way too soft. You can pitch the car into oversteer very easily on a double S curve. The car is under sprung. If you don’t drive on very curvy roads and drive on well maintained roads like at less than 50% then stock is a peach, except on the highway. Stock alignment provides an unsteady amount of play in the wheel and it tends to feel a bit darty above 60mph. Especially concrete freeway. If you drive with any kind of spirit, then you need it more focused. It only took about $2k installed to make it drive so much better and there is zero body roll. It’s like a go-cart and it soaks up bumpy pavement much better with some quality dampers like the Konis I have installed that only takes a few moments to set from racing to smooth before you go driving. In stock form, the body roll is there so you get the feeling of speed without actually going fast. I guess we will call it personal preference. I do guarantee that with equal tires I will outpace any stock Miata and feel less stress doing it. Now that extra HP I’m asking for would be great with a club edition and some actual stiffer springs.

Makes you wonder…

It’s subjective. I’ve owned a multitude of sports cars. The GR, like the Evo, STi and Celica All Tracs are lumpy rally cars meant to drive fast through forest roads. These guys perform there tests on a race track (Autobahn CC) which really doesn’t suit these cars. A great example would be testing adventure motorcycles on a racetrack. More of a chore compared to lighter rwd or fwd cars.

I'm amazed more people didn't buy the BRZ for that exact reason. At the same time people were waiting for a GR86 in whatever marked up build Toyota decided to send, you could order the exact BRZ build you wanted at MSRP.

@@streamius no marketing for it + true enthusiasts that already knew about the BRZ also knew it didn't have the extra port injection like the GR86

If you can afford a new car you can afford a repaint...that being said, yes....Toyota needs more color options on their sports cars. I just repainted my car myself.

@@fortheloveofnoise9298 Sure a $10k+ repaint... A wrap is certainly an option but even those get pricey.