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Succession 4x8 "America Decides" | First Time Reaction 

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Arianna and Maple dive into the high-stakes world of "Succession" with their reaction to Season 4, Episode 8, titled "America Decides." Set on the night of the presidential election, this episode is a whirlwind of political maneuvering and personal conflict. Watch their reactions as Tom manages the ATN newsroom amidst escalating tension, while Greg reveals Shiv and Matsson's covert alliance. The siblings' split on candidate support adds layers to the drama, with Roman backing Jeryd Mencken and Shiv secretly aligning with Jiménez. Arianna and Maple provide their insights into Kendall's attempts to block the GoJo deal and Shiv's attempts to manipulate Tom, who remains skeptical of her pregnancy news. The episode reaches a climax with ATN's chaotic election coverage, Connor's incoherent concession speech, and the final electoral vote count leading to a controversial call for Mencken. Stay tuned for their review after the reaction, discussing the episode's exploration of family dynamics, moral ambiguity, and the consequences of power in this critically acclaimed series.
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00:10 - Reaction
25:39 - Review

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@SKALLRAG
@SKALLRAG 6 месяцев назад
It’s like what Rhea said, Shiv’s not nearly as smart as she thinks she is. It was stupid of her to threaten Greg. Greg’s not scared of her. Nobody is scared of the kids. People fear Logan. Without him the children have no power of their own.
@red2977
@red2977 6 месяцев назад
He is scared of her when she has power. The reason he crossed her was because he realized that she was being cut out and with her power gone she was no longer a threat to him. Shiv thinks she is slicker than she is. She is a terrible liar and the other characters often end up seeing thru her.
@LouSassol69er
@LouSassol69er 6 месяцев назад
Shiv doesn't know how to read people. She should've thrown Greg a bone. He had a history of sneaking his way up the ladder with leverage. Intimidation wasn't going to work with him unless it was Logan.
@broncoscountryl3tsrid3
@broncoscountryl3tsrid3 6 месяцев назад
Logan, Kendall, and Tom were all smart enough to know you have to pay Greg off for his loyalty. Shiv is an idiot and doesn’t understand that so instead opts to give him an empty threat. Had she paid him off, he wouldn’t have snitched.
@Spaced92
@Spaced92 6 месяцев назад
The problem is she is smart. Greg isn't scared, but he's stupid, Shiv was always going to hang around the company and not be someone you'd want to cross either way, she had her eggs in both baskets. Remember when Greg tried to extort Logan? He got slapped down in a very similar way, you don't just ask for vague benefits, the only difference is Logan is one of the two people Greg would just listen to, the other being Tom. I don't think her blackmail of Greg was the misstep people think it is. If anything playing both sides got exposed in a fairly unrealistic way.
@UnlistedAgain
@UnlistedAgain 6 месяцев назад
@@Spaced92 You really don't think it would have been better to offer Greg, the person with leverage, at least something rather than just throwing around empty threats? Come on. Like Stewy said in season 2, these showy threats don't mean anything. It clearly wasn't going to work when she first threatened to kill him, and he responded by asking for an offer. And then Shiv (the supposed "smart" person in the room) still doesn't realize it and just repeats more threats.
@colepalmer3128
@colepalmer3128 6 месяцев назад
By far Shiv's biggest mistake here is thinking that Greg can be scared into submission. In the early seasons, that may have worked, but from his perspective he is obviously much better siding with Kendall/Roman if Shiv isn't offering him anything but empty threats
@broncoscountryl3tsrid3
@broncoscountryl3tsrid3 6 месяцев назад
Even early on that wouldn’t have worked. Greg was ratting out Tom to Gerri in like episode 4 lol. Greg is only loyal when people are paying him off, which Tom begins to do soon after.
@LaCheeserie
@LaCheeserie 4 месяца назад
@@broncoscountryl3tsrid3yeah and he made it obvious. Even an empty promise could have worked, just not a threat
@NickWalkerWilliamson
@NickWalkerWilliamson 6 месяцев назад
Even Logan knew to give Greg something he wants to keep him in line
@jxchamb
@jxchamb 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, a rum and coke. What Greggy wants, Greggy gets.
@samgradyfilm
@samgradyfilm 6 месяцев назад
"Well, I mean, it is kind of a nice idea, you know? All the different people, together." is such a Ken statement and such a pathetic half-hearted attempt to stick up for his kids and their future without actually making an attempt to push back on Rom, and it's also a basically correct summation of the civic/cultural nature of American citizenship vs. the blood & soil ideology of the regime he would be complicit in clearing a path for. Good writing.
@choccy9852
@choccy9852 6 месяцев назад
I disagree with the assertion “Roman isn’t evil he just doesn’t care” cause to me that’s still evil…
@ChrisLamia
@ChrisLamia 6 месяцев назад
Yeag I don’t really get how you could watch this episode and think he’s not evil.
@ellamartell728
@ellamartell728 6 месяцев назад
i mean i will even say its even worse than evil, because rome believes in nothing
@nickrubin7312
@nickrubin7312 6 месяцев назад
"Thank god he is scared of Shiv" He is literally not, he is not
@bigpictureguys8415
@bigpictureguys8415 6 месяцев назад
9:34 I can’t fault Tom at all there for doubting whether or not the pregnancy news was true. Especially considering the timing in which she delivered that news.
@red2977
@red2977 6 месяцев назад
yep, Shiv says all sorts of messed up things to him, but you could tell he realized she was telling the truth when he saw how she reacted when walking away.
@nickrubin7312
@nickrubin7312 6 месяцев назад
I mean, in that similar conversation she tried to manipulate him into empathy with her "my father just died" argument, while she doesn't really care that much. Well, she does, but not that "broken by grief" much, just a bit sad.
@arjunjayaprakash2670
@arjunjayaprakash2670 6 месяцев назад
The formatting of your reaction is the best so far of any channel I've ever watched. You guys do make cuts to prevent copyright but the editing is extremely smooth and doesn't feel disruptive. And best part being you keep the important scenes every single time. Kudos to the whole Digesis team! Great job. Lot of fun to watch y'all!
@peach-panther
@peach-panther 6 месяцев назад
“Is that even true?” Shiv broke him and he projects it into his work, letting the cycle continue.
@alanpownall7965
@alanpownall7965 6 месяцев назад
Shiv is so disappointing; She knows the consequences of that fascist gaining power but when push comes to shove, she puts her own petty power games first. At least Roman has the decency to admit he doesn't care if they start putting people in camps.
@red2977
@red2977 6 месяцев назад
yes she engages in self deception where she convinces herself that she is making these choices for the good of the country when its all about her. If she was really concerned about the country she would have at least tried to call Nate to see if they would kill the deal for them. She didn't do that because then she wouldn't be able to be CEO and her lie is what caused Ken to realize she had betrayed them and he sided with Roman. I think there is a real chance that if Shiv had been honest and on Ken's side all along that he might have gone along with Shiv and done what is for the best of the country even if it cost him the company, but her betrayal was too much.
@DelusionalNYC
@DelusionalNYC 6 месяцев назад
it's quite bewildering how Shiv's supporters continue to deny this
@darrellhenry9152
@darrellhenry9152 6 месяцев назад
Both Shiv and Kendall showed their weaknesses this episode. Set aside what’s best for the country Logan IMO wouldn’t have back Mencken in Kendall’s position because he would have saw that Roman is close to him not himself. Also just because a news agency calls the election doesn’t mean it’s over especially if the other networks don’t call it. There’s going to be lawsuits and recounts and if you get it this wrong it destroys your credibility. Shiv screwed up with Greg trying to cosplay tough Logan. If you go back through the series every time Greg asked Logan for a deal in exchange for something Logan did a deal with him. Shiv instead offering him something when he has real leverage over her, thinks threatening him will be enough.
@broncoscountryl3tsrid3
@broncoscountryl3tsrid3 6 месяцев назад
Logan, Kendall, and Tom all knew to buy Greg off for his loyalty. Shiv is a dumbass.
@rafaelcruz9973
@rafaelcruz9973 6 месяцев назад
This is my favorite episode of this show. It was so close to home and so terrifying.
@constantlybored6094
@constantlybored6094 6 месяцев назад
Logan, Kendall and Tom gave Greg something when he asked, I dont know why Shiv thought those empty threats would work. I remember when Greg said he didn't want to work at ATN because of his principles, now he says its not gonna make a difference if he's the one to do it or not because someone else will. People thought he would have a redemption arc but it was the complete opposite
@jxchamb
@jxchamb 6 месяцев назад
Lol to anybody thinking he'd have a redemption arc. I assumed from the start that his character was going to become more and corrupted. How could you not become like the Roy's if you spent all that time with them. Private jets, 5 star private resorts, and a good job paying job that requires almost no actual work.
@LaCheeserie
@LaCheeserie 4 месяца назад
@@jxchamb it’s like trading places. Shoot I think I would turn if put in that spot
@jl5574
@jl5574 6 месяцев назад
I loved Conor attempting some stately eminence “I shan’t become that, no… Alas, Kentucky. Alas vanity.” 😂
@kurtwagner350
@kurtwagner350 6 месяцев назад
Despite the outcome it was really fun seeing Shiv finally get caught in a lie and face real consequences for playing both sides
@gatesunn
@gatesunn 6 месяцев назад
a wannabe fascist rising to power, but at least an annoying woman got her comeuppance? ok cool.
@turboklanias9626
@turboklanias9626 6 месяцев назад
Seeing Tom hurt Shiv was cruel, but remembering how she was treating him up to this point, felt a lil bit good.
@jxchamb
@jxchamb 6 месяцев назад
Can you blame him if he was? Shiv saying her boots were knocked up is definitely something I could see her making up.
@bigpictureguys8415
@bigpictureguys8415 6 месяцев назад
This episode shows how Ken isn’t his dad. His dad would’ve had no quarrels doing what they did. Ken would’ve gone left had they given him similar access to what menkin promised
@red2977
@red2977 6 месяцев назад
yes ken is the only one that actually cared because he had hesitation. Roman and Shiv were on the opposite extremes and Ken was in the middle. All three of them to various levels were acting in their own self interest at the end of the day though.
@sorkaem
@sorkaem 6 месяцев назад
@@red2977 I think Shiv cared because she has always been clear about her political views. Even if she had to compromise at times. I would say Ken is the worst because unlike Roman he knew and cared about what was at stakes and still decided to go against it.
@GB-np4pi
@GB-np4pi 6 месяцев назад
@@sorkaemThere were several moments in the show where they showed us that Shiv was never truly progressive. (Example: Offering hand sanitizer to her former candidate after simply shaking a “common man’s” hand on the street). Even her name “Shiv” is a play on the fact that she will do anything to get her way. Roman was the worst in this situation bc he acted in both self interest AND easily dismissed the consequences. Ken was the only one that actually considered his morals, otherwise he would’ve instantly dismissed it like Roman.
@UnlistedAgain
@UnlistedAgain 6 месяцев назад
@@sorkaem Compromise at times? Shiv's "political views" are paper-thin; She'd like to think they're real she doesn't actually hold any of those ideals. Every time she's been even slightly challenged, she forgoes them to further her self-interest. Both Kendall and Shiv were forced to weigh their morals vs self-interest, and they both prioritized self-interest: Shiv by faking the call to make sure the deal still goes through, and Kendall by agreeing to make the announcement.
@LaCheeserie
@LaCheeserie 4 месяца назад
@@GB-np4piprogressives can’t be germaphobes? Terrible example mate
@gingetomassi8153
@gingetomassi8153 6 месяцев назад
The culmination of 4 seasons worth of Shiv thinking she is the smartest sibling blowing up in her face.
@jackbbya123
@jackbbya123 6 месяцев назад
TOM Remember he was very mean to the compliment people and he was losing his mind due to the cocaine. I think he’s emotionally broken by Shiv, and the cocaine simply got him very upset about his situation as Greg, on top of that, kinda gloats about his, how he keeps finding girls, when what only Tom wants to do is find someone to talk to. He is a traditional guy. He “doesn’t wanna be a hippie.” Tom is not “soft” or “weak”because he has feelings. I think the exact opposite in fact. If Tom can describe his feelings to his friend Greg and be valued as a person, it perfectly explains why he feels that he can never confide to Shiv, his OWN wife. “I’m with you because I LOVE YOU” This was 4x7 btw on the outside of the house; “wanna clear the air”.
@bigpictureguys8415
@bigpictureguys8415 6 месяцев назад
I’m glad that y’all turned on Greg. Most of my friends never stopped liking him. For me his schtick got so old
@alexreverman4585
@alexreverman4585 6 месяцев назад
As a character to watch I enjoyed him right up until the end, but I definitely stopped feeling any sympathy for him a long time ago
@liljackypaper
@liljackypaper 6 месяцев назад
Watch your mouth
@lovhyuck7683
@lovhyuck7683 6 месяцев назад
right he’s not as “complex” as everyone made him out to be very insufferable character
@djbillybool8173
@djbillybool8173 6 месяцев назад
criticizing greg while ignoring shiv is laughable though
@hasna7542
@hasna7542 6 месяцев назад
​@@djbillybool8173 why? shiv is way more interesting than greg
@laxmantc77
@laxmantc77 6 месяцев назад
So happy to finally see Shiv get absolutely cooked. I don’t know how you guys can watch this and not place any of the blame on Shiv lol
@flightdub6056
@flightdub6056 6 месяцев назад
Man something really impactful about you both picking up on Kendall almost ‘loading’ all episode until he finally hits upon what’s maybe the quote that sums up the entire series; ‘maybe the poison drips through’. It feels like in a way the whole show’s almost a build up to that line, which makes it even worse that Ken doubles down afterwards. An insightful truth said out loud and no lessons learned from it.
@jackson857
@jackson857 6 месяцев назад
17:51 What a smart idea. I'm sure that'll work. Lying is always the answer. 🙄
@red2977
@red2977 6 месяцев назад
because Shiv has such an amazing track record when it comes to deceiving people 🤣I love the actor because she makes Shiv soo bad at lying via her acting, although this time she was doing better at it until Ken wanted to speak to someone
@diego.rt96
@diego.rt96 6 месяцев назад
Tom's question was more than fair
@DanielLopez-dz7ob
@DanielLopez-dz7ob 6 месяцев назад
I don't understand the shock about how Tom talks and reacts to Shiv. She is a horrible person. I mean, Tom's not THAT much better, but she is by far worse and treated Tom way worse during their relationship that he EVER did her. I say good on Tom for finally saying the things he should've long ago in the last episode and for acting the way he did during this episode.
@rachelundercoffer7120
@rachelundercoffer7120 6 месяцев назад
Can’t wait to see your reaction to the last two episodes!!!!
@tanakaralho
@tanakaralho 6 месяцев назад
I think this was the episode that made me feel more anxious
@SgtWicket
@SgtWicket 6 месяцев назад
God even more than Jan 6th this episode just gives me flashbacks of Bush v Gore.
@pricemoore2022
@pricemoore2022 6 месяцев назад
Awesome reaction of my favorite episode of Succession!!!!😊😊😊😊
@jcnom6606
@jcnom6606 6 месяцев назад
shiv clearly cares more about the country than her brothers, too bad though she doesn't care nearly as much as she thinks she does
@red2977
@red2977 6 месяцев назад
She really doesn't though She isn't some noble person. She is arguing for the other guy because it is good for her to get the deal to go through. The country is a secondary thought and more of a talking point for her. It is always Shiv first then the country. In the earlier seasons she has sided with her dad and right wingers over liberals who she had worked on the campaign with. All because she thought there would be more advantage to her for going with her dad so her protests. She is really no different than her brothers. She just pretends to care about the country, but just like with the other kids its her first. I almost think the one who cares the most is Ken. He was having difficulty with the decision for awhile and was considering not calling it even though that would totally screw over his own position.
@jcnom6606
@jcnom6606 6 месяцев назад
@@red2977 if you expected an argument defending Shiv, sorry to disappoint
@red2977
@red2977 6 месяцев назад
@@jcnom6606 No I understood the point you were making and was in agreement with you.
@gatesunn
@gatesunn 6 месяцев назад
shiv cares a bit more than her brothers but she also has more at stake as a woman in this election not wanting a regressive alt right candidate to win. so you could argue that's still self interest. I think ken has really already made up his mind to support menken to stop the deal, but he wants absolution from his guilt over the consequences for his daughter. that doesn't mean he cares about the country at large, though. he just wants to be able to like himself. but no one in this family can ever really get that lol thanks logan.
@jcnom6606
@jcnom6606 6 месяцев назад
@@gatesunn which makes it kind of even more gross that shiv prioritizes Mattson and herself over her own morals. Roman never cared and Kendall only kind of cared because he wants to be a good father but in the end he always chooses ambition over everything, like his father. But assuming we’ve all seen the the whole show, it was always about beating Her brother’s for Shiv, specifically Kendall, even if it’s a mutually assured defeat
@samgradyfilm
@samgradyfilm 6 месяцев назад
Mencken speech was my favorite horror movie moment of 2023.
@Diegesis
@Diegesis 6 месяцев назад
PREACH
@choccy9852
@choccy9852 6 месяцев назад
Listening to it and realising “oh yeah that’s straight up Nazi shit… Oh holy fuck…”
@opfmhxh
@opfmhxh 5 месяцев назад
Shiv is selfish, she doesn't care about the country either She also whipped out "I'm pregnant" when it was most convenient but it backfired because of all the times she has already betrayed Tom She tried intimidating Greg but that backfired too because again, she is smart but she thinks she is smarter than she actually is
@williammccormick984
@williammccormick984 6 месяцев назад
22:28 - Maple going off on Kendall.
@red2977
@red2977 6 месяцев назад
yea them attacking Kendall like that seems a bit unfair. Both Shiv and Roman were acting completely out of self interest. In the end Ken was willing to be reasonable and listen (something his father likely would not have done), but because Shiv was betraying them he made the call to go the other way. Like was he really expected to give up his entire company and what he believed his father left to him to the guy who had run him into an early grave? And to find out that his own sister had been manipulating and lying to him to get the other guy the company and to cut Ken out? None of the characters are good people. They are all selfish and I don't think Ken was being stupid here. He made the only move that he could make in his interest he would lose the company if he went with the other guy. The company is all he really had because he had lost most of his family.
@jxchamb
@jxchamb 6 месяцев назад
I totally agree with how she was thinking. Like wtf is going on in his head. Anything? I cannot wait to watch their reaction to the last 15 minutes of this show.
@therealkendallroy
@therealkendallroy 12 дней назад
@@red2977 spit yo fax man
@noelcrenshaw7969
@noelcrenshaw7969 6 месяцев назад
I have been waiting for this episode so much
@neonoires
@neonoires 6 месяцев назад
I love this episode so much and Mencken is absolutely terrifying.
@Sig509
@Sig509 6 месяцев назад
Why, because he would cut down welfare, so people would actually have to go to work, instead of doing nothing and being parasites on the rest of the society? Guy is like a cartoon villian for sure, but not everything he says is wrong.
@RugerEnthusiast
@RugerEnthusiast 4 месяца назад
funniest thing about this is that yall think other guy winning gonna change anything lmao not realizing they both are almost 50% so nothing changes lmao
@fauxrowsdower7610
@fauxrowsdower7610 22 дня назад
???
@46.56.A.
@46.56.A. 6 месяцев назад
Greg is the best character on the show.
@AvanteReacts
@AvanteReacts 6 месяцев назад
Damn yall don't laugh at the jokes no more 😢. Tense episode though.
@bigpictureguys8415
@bigpictureguys8415 6 месяцев назад
9:15 shiv was only apologizing to Tom when she wanted him to keep her secret & maybe not push as hard for menkin. I put a microscopic level of stock in that apology
@LeVidocq
@LeVidocq 6 месяцев назад
I think it was more about her keeping the baby and wanting it's father in her life.
@red2977
@red2977 6 месяцев назад
@@LeVidocq Maybe but the timing is really suspect. She only mentioned the baby to lash out at him. I think she was focused much more on the election in that particular moment.
@bigpictureguys8415
@bigpictureguys8415 6 месяцев назад
@@LeVidocq if that were her intention she would’ve done it at literally ANY OTHER time before that moment
@LeVidocq
@LeVidocq 6 месяцев назад
@@red2977 I mean I just don't really see that she would've been concerned about Tom exposing her.
@LeVidocq
@LeVidocq 6 месяцев назад
@@bigpictureguys8415 keep in mind their last interaction before this was him telling her she shouldn't have children, and she's clearly decided that she will, even though she's hurt by Tom's betrayal. She's anxious about telling him and only does it after he beats up on her again by telling her she killed her father because she thinks that will shut him down. Then shortly after she tells Kendall there's something important she needs to tell them(the pregnancy).
@fauxrowsdower7610
@fauxrowsdower7610 20 дней назад
the way i (known Shiv apologist) was like, on my feet pulling my hair out during this episode as she just fumbles fumbles fumbles, i was dying it felt just like a real election year and i hated it. this is my favorite show
@lithium23
@lithium23 6 месяцев назад
In real life they would have been right to call it, because that is what the numbers showed. They would have to do a revote in Wisconsin to change the numbers, not on them.
@jxchamb
@jxchamb 6 месяцев назад
Then don't call it until the government declares that a winner has been declared. They're supposed to announce the news not create it.
@thyagosaints
@thyagosaints 6 месяцев назад
Perfect episode and one more time perfect reactions, you girls are great, thanks! 🇧🇷
@siphillis
@siphillis 6 месяцев назад
“Maybe the poison drips through.” Probably the most overtly Shakespearean this show ever got.
@Kashmir4455
@Kashmir4455 6 месяцев назад
Ah the episode that gave everyone especially those that work and cover DC intense PTSD lmao.
@ZizouZico
@ZizouZico 6 месяцев назад
Wow, I forgot just how hard this episode hit. It’s so close to reality. And here we are about to go into another one next year. America really was a good idea. 😢
@jakefavre
@jakefavre 6 месяцев назад
Yeah no more telling Twitter to suppress votes in favor of Biden anymore
@sagarthegreatable
@sagarthegreatable 6 месяцев назад
The fact that your able to have elections is lucky. Some don’t even have that.
@ZizouZico
@ZizouZico 6 месяцев назад
@@sagarthegreatable Indeed. I’d just add that we have state legislatures across the US trying to cull the electorate to make it harder for certain groups of people to vote. Elections in and of themselves aren’t really enough. Many authoritarian regimes hold elections. But I digress. A lot. Anyway, amazing show and great reactions.
@samgradyfilm
@samgradyfilm 6 месяцев назад
@@jakefavre do you guys have any idea how insane you sound to normal people?
@havok6280
@havok6280 6 месяцев назад
​@@ZizouZicowho is making it hard to vote? And how exactly are they doing that? Voter ID? Black people overwhelmingly favor voter ID laws....
@whtz9000
@whtz9000 6 месяцев назад
This is... This good show.
@jayngb
@jayngb 6 месяцев назад
i understood that reference
@modsquad3123
@modsquad3123 6 месяцев назад
Kendall waives his hand like a nuclear rod
@staxuk
@staxuk 6 месяцев назад
This episode was the best one in the entire show
@kl31n
@kl31n 6 месяцев назад
the existential dread of this episode ughhhhhhh
@Didders29
@Didders29 6 месяцев назад
Can’t wait to see their reaction to Tom winning
@88Featured
@88Featured 3 месяца назад
I feel like Greg will always be partial to Kendall out of the three siblings. Ken gave him an apartment lmao. I don’t recall Roman or Shiv ever doing anything for Greg
@reabec10
@reabec10 6 месяцев назад
They are all bad people but Shiv is the worst for me. Thinks she can just do whatever she wants with no repercussions
@46.56.A.
@46.56.A. 6 месяцев назад
Roman is definitely worse. Being a bitch isn't as bad as making way for a Nazi government.
@caylincoleman8758
@caylincoleman8758 6 месяцев назад
The siblings all think that tho at some point during the show
@reabec10
@reabec10 6 месяцев назад
@@caylincoleman8758 well yeah there's just something about her when she gets caught. She tries to bullshit her way out of it. I mean they all do but she's most annoying to me haha
@choccy9852
@choccy9852 6 месяцев назад
I disagree Roman is the worse to me because he has absolutely no regard for anyone but himself and his family to the point of supporting pretty much a Nazi. Plus him sexually harassing Gerri. Also he literally says he believes there’ll be no actual repercussions from the election. If anyone is guilty of thinking there’ll be no consequences for his actions it’s him. Shiv isn’t a complete idiot she knows there’ll be repercussions for her actions if people find out that’s why she hides everything and lies so much, she just doesn’t think she’ll get caught in her lies. She’s also aware the repercussions of their work and the election.
@caylincoleman8758
@caylincoleman8758 6 месяцев назад
​@@reabec10idk Roman kinda takes the cake on most annoying..kinda evil this episode and the total disregard for anyone but himself trumps everything in my opinion...but him and shiv have that in common....NONE of them have any business running a company
@odinez7010
@odinez7010 6 месяцев назад
Has Fikret ever been on camera?
@Diegesis
@Diegesis 6 месяцев назад
if they have i don't remember
@-notwavingbutdrowning-
@-notwavingbutdrowning- 6 месяцев назад
Yes in episode 1
@ninadganore
@ninadganore 4 месяца назад
Greg does not get scared by shiv
@neesonnaidoo4745
@neesonnaidoo4745 6 месяцев назад
Roman and Shiv annoyed me so much in this episode. Roman just refusing to acknowledge the danger of Menkin so he can look good and Shiv’s arrogance n in thinking she’s smarter than everyone. At least it backfired on Shiv which was a little satisfying
@jxchamb
@jxchamb 6 месяцев назад
How is Menkin evil? He's just the President and the President is just a figurehead. It's like when people got upright about Trump when he got elected. Did he launch nukes at Canada or declare himself emperor? No. He's just a rich guy who got to pretend he was in charge while congress and the senate ran things like the always have.
@LeVidocq
@LeVidocq 6 месяцев назад
Shiv was massively incompetent in this episode, and I think it was because all the Tom and pregnancy drama rattled her.
@bulbakirb5789
@bulbakirb5789 6 месяцев назад
She's never actually been good at scheming is the thing. Even way back in s1 she tried to trick Tom with the prenup not thinking he was going to have his mom look over it and see the lack of an infidelity clause on her end.
@LeVidocq
@LeVidocq 6 месяцев назад
@@bulbakirb5789 she did manage to finesse herself a seat on the board.
@red2977
@red2977 6 месяцев назад
She wasn't just incompetent in this episode. Some of her past choices set her up to fail. The way she treated Tom and Greg. She needed them on her side and because of her past conduct she couldn't get Tom's trust and she mishandled Greg when if she had Tom on her side he would have taken care of the Greg part for her. Even still she could have cut a deal with Greg but she refused and that was the final nail in her plan.
@rahulsinha2775
@rahulsinha2775 6 месяцев назад
Anyone else feel like.... Ariana... kinda... 👀 No? Just me?
@VLF218
@VLF218 6 месяцев назад
I was physically ill watching this episode for the first time. It was waaaay too familiar
@jessicasmith1766
@jessicasmith1766 6 месяцев назад
This episode was so hard to watch. I wanted to vomit.
@abemrofchak
@abemrofchak 6 месяцев назад
I don't like that this show showed me I have no morals. I don't care that Roman is an evil billionaire who got a fascist elected because he wanted to be friends with him. He's cute and his dad was mean to him.
@ChrisMorganComedy
@ChrisMorganComedy Месяц назад
The irony of this episode talking about nuclear war.. And everyone was afraid of trump.... I'm from the future. The show hit it on the head just picked the wrong party
@6Rock6God6
@6Rock6God6 6 месяцев назад
This episode showcases Shiv's selfishness pretty well too honestly. She acts disgusted but ultimately she chose pushing the deal through over calling it for Jimenez. Ken was ready to side with her then she lied.
@gaborkiss650
@gaborkiss650 5 месяцев назад
Shiv is by far the worst and most annoying character on the show. You can slam Ken and Roman, that’s fine, they are surely morons. But Shiv is the worst.
@stnarud
@stnarud 6 месяцев назад
I don't understand the Greg hate. He's so refreshing.
@podes2204
@podes2204 6 месяцев назад
Same. They know it's excessive but can't help it. it's a bit tiresome
@red2977
@red2977 6 месяцев назад
Greg is obnoxious. He offers nothing of value. He is a freeloader.
@OhWellWhatTheHell1
@OhWellWhatTheHell1 6 месяцев назад
@@red2977 as opposed to the rest of the cast? like it's dick pics and floor piss all the way up
@zawa7497
@zawa7497 6 месяцев назад
He's annoying
@austynstephens9263
@austynstephens9263 6 месяцев назад
I'm not American, but is Mencken supposed to represent Trump? Do the average Americans think Trump is a fascist? I follow US politics from time to time, but I don't understand what the general feeling is about Trump. Also, here in Mexico, the majority of people I know like Trump, but I feel like the US news portrays us as a country that hates Trump. I hope this is not an inappropriate comment, but here in Mexico, we talk about politics freely; nothing is taboo.
@meteorjuice4088
@meteorjuice4088 6 месяцев назад
Mencken isn’t necessarily a representation of Trump, he’s too smart for that. He’s more like a representation of the growing sentiment of conservative white supremacist-authoritarian voices that blew up in American politics because Trump paved away to make their opinions more popular. Mencken is a fictional human version of that, and more sinister. American politics is very divisive now, the people who hate him do think he’s a fascist, but half the country still supports Trump which is crazy, so “average American” is hard to say, but the ones who hate him do think he’s a fascist (which I agree with, if only because he tried to steal the last election). It’s sad to me that Mexicans like Trump because Trump has zero care for people outside the US and not even care for the US people, he only cares about his reputation and his ego and himself.
@MaMvidS45
@MaMvidS45 6 месяцев назад
Not much to say when you don't understand ig
@shytguy
@shytguy 6 месяцев назад
Shiv only says think about the country when she’s got no other defense. She doesn’t care either, but she puts on the façade that she does care so deeply about the state of the world. She’s lying to her self not realizing she’s part of the problem and can’t escape it no matter how many empty platitudes she iterates.
@the_crypter
@the_crypter 6 месяцев назад
Naah, she does care in a sense any person who is not a psycopath would. No one wants a facist as a leader. She isn't taking some high ground. It's pretty fucking easy to not like nazis.
@red2977
@red2977 6 месяцев назад
yes a big part of it is self deception. She convinced herself she cares about the country but its not really true.
@shytguy
@shytguy 6 месяцев назад
@@red2977 yeah, she obviously wants things to go her way concerning mattson. Then when she’s played all her cards and loses,she tries to appeal to others by saying “but you’re hurting the country”. Total phony. Self interest comes way before the so called wellbeing of the country
@bigpictureguys8415
@bigpictureguys8415 6 месяцев назад
24:06 yo why does the guy who plays menkin look just like Colin Cowherd 😆
@jakefavre
@jakefavre 6 месяцев назад
So it's pretty apparent Maple and Arianna never heard of the Twitter files then ...
@samgradyfilm
@samgradyfilm 6 месяцев назад
lmao
@1920sBuffaloGuy
@1920sBuffaloGuy 6 месяцев назад
Mencken is everything this country needs. Everything.
@Diegesis
@Diegesis 6 месяцев назад
Kidding or nazi?
@1920sBuffaloGuy
@1920sBuffaloGuy 6 месяцев назад
It's an exaggeration I think more than anything. @@Diegesis
@DanLanningPRTeam
@DanLanningPRTeam 6 месяцев назад
Roman stay making the right calls for our Democracy
@sagarthegreatable
@sagarthegreatable 6 месяцев назад
You don’t have a democracy. It’s always fixed.
@46.56.A.
@46.56.A. 6 месяцев назад
Okay Mr. Nazi.
@sujitparida2501
@sujitparida2501 4 месяца назад
Well one question....why does america hates right wing so much???...why america is so lefty
@Diegesis
@Diegesis 4 месяца назад
Cause the right wing is anti women's rights, racist and capitalist.
@johnmorris8444
@johnmorris8444 20 дней назад
@@Diegesiswhat’s wrong with capitalism? It’s fucking fantastic.
@therealkendallroy
@therealkendallroy 12 дней назад
@@johnmorris8444 not really lol, especially not late-stage capitalism. And someone saying this doesn't mean that they prefer communism or whatever.
@johnmorris8444
@johnmorris8444 12 дней назад
@@therealkendallroy nah, it really is fantastic. Especially compared to everything else. That might be why it’s fantastic because everything else is just so incredibly bad.
@samhasanain4841
@samhasanain4841 5 месяцев назад
Most contrived, worst-written episode in the series....typical liberal fear porn playing on all the delusional tropes. It was cringe moralizing about a fictional election from the perspective of an extremely liberal British writer (Jessie Armstrong) who know nothing about U.S. politics apart from the BBC, CNN, etc. I'm not saying this as a conservative but the heavy-handed, over-the-top subtext (this is about Trump, fascism, Nazis, etc.) was just so lazy and pathetic. It could have been done with more subtlety and less melodrama (as if the normally cold Shiv is suddenly a crying SJW...give me a break.) Of course Armstrong wants to comment on the 2016 election for which he's clearly obsessed, but there's more sophisticated ways of doing it and it felt totally disjointed from the other episodes. Ugh..pure cringe. This was like the last couple episodes of Game of Thrones when it dropped off...hopefully the final 2 are redeemable.
@johnmorris8444
@johnmorris8444 20 дней назад
It is hard to take anyone seriously when every election is the end of the world, for realsies this time. It makes me lose respect for someone as a serious person.
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