Sugarcane Farms in Minecraft Are Wrong, Here's How to Fix Them 

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@@Eyecraftmc bro I already know that standered design is shit because it only gives you 50% of sugar cane then I make my owm farm with minecart and rails in it well results are not great as it 😅

@@Eyecraftmc BTW congrats for 200k in advance

@@Eyecraftmc I hope this works in bedrock cause I'm planning on building it as I just made a low efficiency creeper farm but it works !

@@Eyecraftmc you should do a creeper farm vid now that I look on your channel there isn't one currently

this is always a big deal for me; if i'm following a step-by-step tutorial in survival, it takes me a lot more time to pillar up etc, whereas the person in the video can just fly around so easily. its not a deal breaker, but it is really nice when people take that into account

@@chrisbartlett9769 Or you know...pause the video?

​@@Gamerswell wait you can pause the video? holy shit i cant believe i never knew that

@@chrisbartlett9769 Apparently it's a big deal for you lmao

@@Gamerswell people in creative can fly up etc and build really quickly in ways that u cant follow, if they do it in survival u can copy them because u are doing the exact same thing as them and pausing a vid multiple times can be quite irritating

Maybe cuz people may make fun out of this number..

​@@evereq8970 because it is a sexual position yes

69 was funny when I was 13

@Ben Gray you're trying to make fun of him but you don't even have basic reading comprehension. He said "all the gold for 20 powered rails", not "20 gold for all the powered rails". 20 powered rails is actually about 120 gold or nearly 2 stacks of gold.

@Ben Gray Sorry didn't realize it gave 6 per craft, thought it was only 1 on powered rails.

​@Ben Gray bro why did you post in bursts of 3? you could've just posted once lol

bros just trolling at this point 💀💀

​@@Evotionn i don't even know who's trolling who HAHAHHA

dude you have 200 IQ, thats a suck idea

Your fix is a great temporary solution though. Pretty smart if you ask me.

The bamboo trick is super clever honestly! Daylight detector is probably better but i love the idea behind your trick.

@@csharpcoffee Actually, i'd argue that the bamboo is a better choice due to the day/nighttime cycle is slower than the bamboo growth rate, meaning it will trigger the farm more often.

@@ratcrusher3251 Technically it would be but sugarcane and bamboo won't finish growing as fast as the time needed for bamboo to trigger the mechanism. Besides that, the height for bamboo can be left to grow even longer by expanding the glass chamber, maximising efficiency of the farm

For bedrock users, replacing the moss with dirt still works though, I completed this farm last night :) -- the only difference is it doesn't look as pretty with the amethyst blocks

I was wondering if anyone else had the same problem I did, thanks for the clarification! ⭐

yes I found out the hard way. broke the moss to replace with dirt water went everywhere completely wiped out all the rails pretty much had to start from scratch lol

Thats sad. I would be using java, however my computer doesnt want to download it properly. :(

@@Wolf-E-Romeo try reinstalling java

there is another that doesnt talk, so all the information you need is in text or graphics in the video: Shulkercraft. so if you dont find a tutorial from this guy you can go to them

Same it changed a lot in ten years didn't it?

I would argue that ianxofour is even better at explaining how to build farms. Not only does he do great walk-throughs of building the farm, he also explains all the mechanics surrounding the farm.

Gracias amigo un grande

bro he literally did a material list in the video

@@veedz_ what if someone needs to copy paste it somewhere

Does it work in minecraft bedrock?

@@thefroster120it does! 🙂

damn

This did it for me. Hopper minecart wouldn't collect through sand blocks. It was expensive to build but it works like a charm. It produces a lot more than a regular farm and no loss! All that sugar turns to paper, and is sold to villager for emeralds.

@@mahtoosacks They should collect through blocks. The video's design uses less materials and creates less lag, so it scales better if you make it really large. On a normal scale, the mud system works great.

U need many hopper that make ur world got lag

I used hoppers with mudblocks on them but it doesnt collect anything, am I doing something wrong?

​@blob6591they sound cool.

You can capture a villager, make him a librarian, convert to zombie then heal. Easy 1 emerald - 3 bookshelves. I already dont remember last time I crafted a book.

Been struggling to understand the function of those glass blocks and wondering if it can be substituted

@@flammenwerferdas5888 They don't have a function really, at least in this farm. Glass blocks above the farm allow light in, but otherwise the main reason for them is just to let you see inside the farm. Personally I don't see the number of glass blocks needed being all that problematic. It's so easy to get glass blocks from librarian villagers that they're effectively infinite for me. The moss he built with is actually harder to obtain, as you either need to get lucky when checking shipwrecks, or else find a lush cave biome somewhere.

​@@KageNoOnisu Yeah but you only need one piece of moss to produce it infinitely with bonemeal. I think wandering traders also sell moss blocks.

@@KageNoOnisu You could get them from Wandering Traders as well, but you could ideally just use mud, which you can produce by hand whenever you need it.

This is what I did and its actually the same as using observers, if not better and not so tall

Yeah

Confused why it's a daylight sensor

Thank you🥰

I used bamboo for mine cause I had a separate sugar cane farm so I used a lever with no roof too turn the pistons on simply cause I liked watching it fall

I think I use the same system as you. It's the most efficient for production rates per plant but it does take up more space and I have wondered if I'd be better off with more plants rather than higher efficiency per plant. Realistically though, I'm unlikely to change my design. I think the daylight sensor is not that efficient because I believe the average growth cycle is 20 minutes per sugar cane growth cycle which could interfere with the production rate significantly. I'm not sure on the growth rate though.

Thanks, that's what i just commented for the budpowering with a noteblock ^^

I personally love Tango's bamboo/sugarcane farm design. 100% lossless, tileable in all directions, cheap in observers compared to other designs. And becaause of its footprint, its so easy to hide it inside a building/skyscraper. I never used any other design when I started using that.

Allays make all these farm designs so much cheaper, and they work well enough for singleplayer worlds

Lol, i just use bonemeal

That’s true IF you’re using a system with all observers. Otherwise it’s up to the sugarcane to grow at the observer all at the same time. It’s still a really high waste if you don’t want to use a huge amount of observers.

​@danielmiller1488 I've never had 50% lose with the old observers. But your twice per mincraft day farm is way less efficient than the observer way since it'll trigger 2 times a MC day instead of when it's ready...

So should I make the one in this video or not?

well at least we know you did great on ur essays in school

I wouldn't say he's "lieing". He's just pointing out the faults in the other design. Yes it won't waste 50% but it will waste a lot of sugar cane. It's about the long term.

if you mean 3x as long, than the rails would work the same, just place 2-3 activated rails every 10 regular rails or so and it'll be fine.

@@levindeed 3x wide is just as easy. You can expand in 4 block chunks. Just copy the design of the 4 blocks to either side (farm -> piston -> piston -> farm) so the single farm slice on the edge is doubled and you're left with a single farm on the new edge. The only change to the rails is that the end is one shorter and loops back around to the rear of the farm instead of returning to the collection area and the new end goes that one extra block to return. If you're expanding the farm later, you only have to break that one rail.

Does this farm work on bedrock?

@@sahilkadian4123 couldn't tell you, I only play Java. Sorry.

@@sahilkadian4123 i just built it in bedrock and it seems to function fine. I've only had it a few minecraft days though soooo

hopper minecarts are cheaper if you have a bigger farm

@@gdanzzzk2180 yes they are but they are often realy buggy and don't work correctly on some servers because of their anti lag plug-ins

Would also prefer mud, very easy to get and use compared to the minecart version.

Sure, but it's undesirable to use tons of hoppers as they're costly and contribute to server lag since they do a bunch of work every game tick.

@@seigeengine they don't lag the server if a block is on top of it but yeah on big farms they are expensive as hell

I'm so glad!

If you do this make sure to put torches underneath, I had spiders spawn in my rail system.

P😅😅😊​@@MasterElements

Are we really concerned about efficiency as drops collected per piston firing? Unless premature harvest of sugarcane/bamboo actually impacts growth rate? That'd be news to me.

@@BardedWyrm well I think it depends who you are. I am one who tries to min max as much as possible. The person who will build a farm on the surface and spend a week going through caves with torches or building a farm over the ocean or in the air. I generally play on a server and to keep lag down you have to think about efficiency as much as possible since building too much redstone will lag the server (and I love redstone) so we tend to limit farms. 1 iron farm, 1 sugar can farm, 1 general mob farm, etc. and for 4-6 people that slight difference can make a huge difference long term. But if you are playing solo or have your own farms it probably won’t make as big of a difference. Edit: so I wanted to give an example. Let’s say for 24 hours of play produces 20 stacks. Pick up rates bring cutting in half are a huge difference (from not having a minecart under it.) And a rough estimate of 10% to pistons breaking early (I'll explain that a little later on) Meaning if you normally would get 20 stacks (then you lose even %10 to the pistons) 20-2=18 (Then take half of the original number since it isn’t getting picked up equaling 10 stacks) and that leaves you at 8 stacks out of the possible 20 stacks during the same period of time whether thats 2 hours or 40 hours that is a big loss. Especially if you are on a server. Edit 2: I just looked up the rates and all I can see is that sugarcane tends to grow at a rate of about 1 every 18 minutes (Java) and 54 minutes (Bedrock) minutes and if you break it at the second level it resets the time for growth. So you could lose anywhere from a 1 second growth to 18 minutes (or 54 minute on bedrock) So there is a big possibility for loss in growth and time. Seeing as it only takes a single extra building block and a single redstone dust for every second sugarcane in the row to fix. It’s a cheap thing to fix. 100% worth it in my opinion.

​@@BardedWyrm on servers being efficient is key. Especially when you work, and don't have a lot of time to wait for sugarcane to grow. And also if you dont have a chunk loader.

Downside is that hoppers create lag, I'd argue

Yeah, hoppers are farmable, but they do create lag without a solid block above them. This is an issue for people with PCs on the lower end or on multiplayer servers. The line of hoppers also won't add anything to the system, save for absolutely massive systems that the minecart would have trouble picking up amd depositing everything before the next cycle, but again the lag issue becomes compounded when the size increases. If this system used mud blocks instead of the other blocks that sugarcane and bamboo can grow on, you can skip the minecart track all together. Since mud isn't a full block hoppers can pull through them, but still provides the aforementioned hopper lag. However, it's weird considering how much cheaper a hopper minecart is compared to lines of hoppers since you seem to care about reducing redstone costs (redstone block vs lever) but ignore the iron costs because it's farmable. Every single component is farmable: cobblestone from cobble generators, iron from golem farms, wood from tree farms, gold from zombified piglin farms, quartz from piglin bartering farms (can use gold from zombified piglin farm), and redstone from witch farms (which also provides sticks).

@@atomkuehneoh, interesting! I knew hoppers created lag, but I didn't know why. So it's when there's not a full block above them that they create lag?

@@BaritoneMonkey yes, when there's a full block they don't have to constantly check if there's an item above them or not. Adding a full block stops them from making checks which eliminates most of the lag they create.

Good point, didn't realise that.

This is the biggest loss in inefficiency. So link a watcher with one piston, add a hopper to collect the dropped down canes and it's efficient enough. Just have to figure out how to link it 1 on 1.

I was wondering why this was so slow

​@@Confuzer I made a this function way back in the day but it's incredibly massive due to this. You need sticky pistons, and you need to expand this system so basically it goes: [Block] [Cane] [Observer (Output -->)] [Block (Solid) [Cane] [Block] [ S. Piston] [Cane] [Block] [N/A] With this design it only triggers to power a single piston with the observer, which increases efficiency but it's expensive to an extreme due to the sticky pistons, and it makes the contraption an extra block thicker.

The other work around would be to do this but add one block between each section of sugar cane (Cane, Block, Cane, Block) so the redstone does not link to all of them, removing need of sticky pistons yet still makes the contraption a block thicker.

Nice that one looks awesome, I like the tangotek one - less complex at early game and also stackable

Thank you I appreciate that!

@@Eyecraftmc I do have a question about the base. With the daylight sensor being the harvest determiner, how often does it collect? Once when it turns night and once when it turns day?

Thank you!

would u just put hoppers under every mud block? thats rlly expensive for an early game farm like this

@@burgre2965Actually, some people build it in late game as everyone want to fly high

@@pioncham2584this is a bad design for a late game sugarcane farm. a lategame sugarcane farm would just be a massive field of sugarcane with a two way flying machine cutting them down

I could see this being more useful on smaller sugarcane farms, especially if you wanted to tuck one into a space on a very specific build- like a ship or a house that has a dead space you want to make more productive. The hopper and mud block design would be more compact, and would also be silent, which might be something you want in a build that's more about aesthetics than raw productivity. Also would be good if you had an iron farm or were near a mountain biome but didn't have a lot of gold. All very specific, but minecraft is about building how you want and not just raw production.

since iron farms exist its actually one of the easiests things to get imo

@SomeCoolGuy yeah, i got like 20ish stacks even after building a few farms, just built this one and it hardly uses any iron, depending on the number of pistons used

No sane player would build this complicated farm. Just use slime flying machine to sweep those bamboos and sugarcanes.

@@masa_sjo How is this complicated farm brother?

The only thing to keep in mind with flying machine based farms is that they can break if they're unloaded while operating. Not super great for full unattended AFK or while doing other things.

What was the total items for each farm? At 72 hours with 256 slots 47 seems more than possible to be within the realm of random chance based error, as even with some of the most efficient farms randomness on ticks can change rates. This genuinely seems like they're about the same. Judging on normal rates I get with smaller farms I'd assume that can't be more than a 10% differenced between the 2 farms, as 500 per hour is easily achievable below your described builds, and even large scale 546 slot slime based sugar can farms can have a variance of about 5-10%.

That is correct however I designed it this way so it works the same for bedrock and java as bedrock edition doesn't have quasi connectivity

@@Eyecraftmc goddamn, someone that actually designs redstone with bedrock in mind???

@@Eyecraftmc Ohh I see. That's very thoughtful of you ! Anyway, imo what you showed us in this video is indeed a very nice and probably the simplest workaround I've ever seen to the "sugar cane getting stuck" problem so thanks a lot for that !

@@dnadiluna8174 On paper is thoughtful, but all the Java players end up wasting redstone as a result and never know about it. if uploaded Java version instead, a bedrock player would quickly notice that only the ones with redstone above are working and just add more redstone to fix it. Edit: Noticed a comment that says that the design doesn't work in Bedrock anyway and have to waterproof the rails 😂

Mmm...maybe the hoppers are way easier to use than minecart system but it's way expensier than minecart hopper unless you have an iron farm.

@@XD1999cable I only touched on that, but you’re right. Iron farms aren’t really that expensive, but they are a little Time consuming.

I completely agree, customizing farms is always fun, and yes levers would definitely work if you prefer not to use the redstone blocks

Or torches. Saves you 11.111111% of redstone dusts in expense of you using part of little sticks.

Will Do!

@@Eyecraftmc you know you are one of the only youtubers that actually read the comments thats why you are my favorite youtuber

Thx for the tip my sugar cane seems to grow at such slow rates now was curious if there was a better more efficient way I shall try this method and see if it improves otherwise I'll setup my old manual farm and go with that since I had much better rates

how does that work? because at some point the bamboo will reach max height and stop growing, right? How do you bypass that?

​@@Fev333rYou would place an observer above the piston to break the bamboo

​@@Westian14observer above the piston, right?

@@mannmanuel7762 Oh yeah my bad

Hopper minecarts can pick up items through solid blocks, so dirt or sand will work just as fine for sugar canes. The only fear is bamboo items landing on themselves.

solid blocks can glitch out minecarts

Rails are 6 iron for 16 rails, or 6 gold per 6 powered rails. Placing hoppers like that would need 80 hoppers for this farm, which would need 6 1/4 stacks of iron, compared to this farm, which uses 56 iron (for just the collection, it's 136 total, hopper/mud would need 7 1/2 stacks). Plus hopper lag exists, but the minecart is never broken/stopped in this system and hopper lag is minimal enough, so that probably wasn't much of a consideration. I'd personally go with hoppers (and lock them!), because an iron farm is one of the first things I make in a new world, but not everyone plays like that.

@@viviansusername true, i forgot to consider the cost of materials needed lol

That's a lot of iron for those hoppers though

Ive been thinking that lol

use leaves

LOL

I love how you just glazed over the fact that this is far more efficient and you don't have to make it this big. We no gonna talk about the waste of the original design? Some ppl just like to be haters.

@@Mike_Mayhem The supposed "wrong" decide is super simple and far easier to do than the one proposed here. Yes, the one proposed here is far more efficient and such, but it doesn't always need to be 100% efficiency. There is nothing "wrong" with the original design, it's just not as efficient as it could be, but imho the original is far easier to build.

Yes I was considering having a flying machine design but they're really only practical at large scales which most players don't need

Simple, because the amount of iron you would need to collect all the sugarcane with hoppers makes it impractical

So are you gonna make sugarcane farm with mud next time pls?

@@Eyecraftmc That's only really applicable until the first iron and tree farms are built. Nobody builds a sugarcane farm and goes, "Yup. That's the only item I need lots of and I'll only ever need them right here." If people are here, following your tutorials, then their end goal isn't to simply reach the end of the game, it's to build those resources where they're needed and remove the impracticality you're referencing.

@@marsrevolutionary yeah you're right

@@marsrevolutionary sugar cane is a tipical early game farm because of villager trading.

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Bud switches don’t work in Bedrock. This farm, however, will

skill issue tbh

Went afk for a bit and when I came back my farm was flooded starting to suspect an enderman was the culprit…

How will stairs help?

If you’re using a hopper minecart you might as well just build this design

have a daylight sensor on the roof, with upwards facing observers to bring the signal downwards in a 1x1, or replace with a Redstone clock

you could just set up a hopper clock to go off every few minutes

You could place an observer to watch one of the sides of sugarcane when is fully grown then connect to the redstone. That would break everything once that specific one has grown.

You can skip the daylight detector and use a sculk sensor to detect the noise these make when growing which can in turn be used to fire off the signal to the observer and trigger the pistons.