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@METAsMETAs
@METAsMETAs 7 месяцев назад
I forgot to put this in the video but a Kars who can gain curse Energy vs a sukuna that’s highballed would be a pretty even match I would say. EDIT: ALSO KARS HAS A 400 IQ HE BIG BRAIN
@Pure_Vessel_UwU
@Pure_Vessel_UwU 7 месяцев назад
🧠💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@meliasnahtony2951
@meliasnahtony2951 7 месяцев назад
Have you forgotten that if Sukuna can attack the soul, isn't it possible for him to kill Kars even if he ate the fingers? To make this more specific, the main reason why Yuuji was able to contain Sukuna wasn't his body, but his soul. Or to be more precise, the ability to tell the difference between his own soul and Sukuna's. Vessels that are able to contain his power only occur once every thousand years or so, so Kars would definitely be able to do that. However, it actually boils down not to if Kars can withstand that power, because he certainly can, but if he can stop Sukuna's soul from taking over his body. And I doubt that Kars could stop that. If Kars was to eat Sukuna, that would be the end of all life in the universe because Kars would obviously not know how to do this unless he knows Yuuji.
@rafaelconstantino9736
@rafaelconstantino9736 7 месяцев назад
Can you do a video about part 3 jotaro vs the Pain arc in naruto please?, i think it would be fun.
@themaxchronicles2299
@themaxchronicles2299 7 месяцев назад
@METAsMETAs what about Toji & Maki vs Kars wouldn’t they be like the ultimate hunters in out in JoJo
@boiexe2105
@boiexe2105 7 месяцев назад
Well, all Im going to say is 7:35 This move is used, and Kars dies. Yes Im dead-serious. A flame that burns hotter than a dude who's whole purpose was to be a volcano curse [Jo-Goat] and apparently you just ignored it in the entire thought-process of how this fight would go. No offense but this is what exactly the points against Kars: -Sukuna counters animals with Cleave and Dismantle (probably not even needed) -Sukuna is highly faster, Kars barely was as fast as a plane (In the anime atleast.) -Sukuna's Fire Arrow kills Kars. -Kars may land a hit, but then again RCT just negates that and its just sad for Kars. -Domain Expansion: Malevolent Kitchen. -"Nah, I'd win." -Even if Kars DOESN'T die from Fire Arrow, (somehow) Sukuna can EASIELY throw this dude to outer space. If he knows it or not, his going to eventually do so. Sukuna LOVES testing people. Also, if you're here to tell me "same realm so Kars gets [blah blah]" and etc bullshit like: "What if Kars had CT", no LMFAO. If you have to even add stuff on top for it to be even remotely be a fair fight, that is fucking hilarious. Yeah no, thats just PRAYING for Kars to win. Even IF you add that on top, he still dies to Fire Arrow. Sukuna with 15F solos Kars (non-ult form and ult form) with barely any issue. Unless you mean Novel Kars, thats just fucked up.
@Alone-SF
@Alone-SF 7 месяцев назад
Sukuna: *gets all 20 fingers back and Mahoraga* Kars: "Yoink"
@PerSon-xg3zr
@PerSon-xg3zr 7 месяцев назад
The original Cosmic Garou
@minichad5456
@minichad5456 7 месяцев назад
Kars: **just copies all of sukunas abilities and enhances them**
@jernmp
@jernmp 7 месяцев назад
@@minichad5456that’s novel kars
@minichad5456
@minichad5456 7 месяцев назад
@jerryoverheaven4484 well, anime Kars also learned hamon at the first glance why not curse technices?
@crimsoncourt9354
@crimsoncourt9354 7 месяцев назад
@@jernmp Kars can copy the power of all living things. Ofc Kars can copy curses.
@jacobwansleeben
@jacobwansleeben 7 месяцев назад
I saw a comment recently that Kars would be able to survive Gojo's Unending Void technique because he can stop thinking and therefore ignore the information XD.
@METAsMETAs
@METAsMETAs 7 месяцев назад
Hold on. He might be cooking.
@Numbers-gStands
@Numbers-gStands 7 месяцев назад
the manga actually implies he chose to stop thinking so he might be cooking with that one, though my headcanon is that he'd just grow his head to accommodate for the extra information like dr. vegapunk lol
@tonyvolti4511
@tonyvolti4511 7 месяцев назад
surviving by leaving yourself into a comma is not much of a win imo
@mabFullMoon
@mabFullMoon 7 месяцев назад
@@tonyvolti4511 Learn to read child
@ElysiumFields306
@ElysiumFields306 7 месяцев назад
I mean. He already has the knowledge of everything ever. So Unlimited Void wouldn't work.
@manolgeorgiev9664
@manolgeorgiev9664 6 месяцев назад
Kars: You lived in an age without me in it and were hailed as the strongest, but in the end you turned out to be painfully average. Sukuna: *dies of embarrassment*
@RaftFx
@RaftFx 2 месяца назад
To me, being called painfully average hurts more than anything else
@maromaro7022
@maromaro7022 2 месяца назад
Yall really not watching jjk huh?
@RaftFx
@RaftFx 2 месяца назад
@@maromaro7022 who?
@blackpaisley5156
@blackpaisley5156 2 месяца назад
​@@maromaro7022Sukuna is not touching Ultimate Kars lmao. If the only reason a character loses is because the plot requires it, then they are overpowered.
@GABRIEL_wis
@GABRIEL_wis Месяц назад
​@maromaro7022 You ain't cooking none with that sentence bro
@psychicnecrosis8376
@psychicnecrosis8376 7 месяцев назад
Basically, by lore, Kars stomps effortlessly. JJK puts a lot of effort into establishing the biological/hereditary foundations of jujutsu sorcery. Kars would awaken potentially every combination of cursed technique simultaneously.
@sluggaboyzWC3
@sluggaboyzWC3 2 месяца назад
Why would he need to awaken every curse technique? He has a higher likelihood of just observing the system then doing something busted like figuring out that the more restrictions put up on an effect the greater the effect then make 100 pairs of hands for hand signs and do something on that level. Also if the domain expansion isn't named 'Let the good times roll' you aren't naming it properly.
@vivelespatat2670
@vivelespatat2670 Месяц назад
​@@sluggaboyzWC3Kars popping 5 extra Domains by growing extra hands would be priceless to see
@eulehund99
@eulehund99 Месяц назад
AWAKE?!?!?! AYAYAYAYAYA
@picklestheomnipotent4535
@picklestheomnipotent4535 Месяц назад
as funny as this is, he wouldnt even need to get cursed energy, he could just walk straight through sukunas domain and bitch slap him out of existence
@doragonzx
@doragonzx Месяц назад
@@sluggaboyzWC3 screw that, he could just create an army of himself.
@kotasake
@kotasake 7 месяцев назад
Kars more than likely has a VERY good understanding of his soul considering he can create life itself from a single cell. The yap session is crazy down there 😂
@glogangglory
@glogangglory 7 месяцев назад
Thats a bit disingenuous
@kotasake
@kotasake 7 месяцев назад
@@glogangglory more of a brainstorming thought. But you can't create life without a soul.
@revenantronin8377
@revenantronin8377 7 месяцев назад
Not necessarily. Not all lifeforms have souls, and not all life creation requires soul manipulation unless shown or stated otherwise.
@default9314
@default9314 7 месяцев назад
​@@revenantronin8377hows that
@darthtesla1753
@darthtesla1753 7 месяцев назад
@@gloganggloryI’d argue that he understand his soul very well as he is the ultimate life form.
@rgfang3359
@rgfang3359 7 месяцев назад
It would be hilarious to see Kars adapt to Cursed Energy and then unlock his own Domain Expansion and Innate Curse Technique
@murilo_the_lilo9947
@murilo_the_lilo9947 6 месяцев назад
Domain expansion: Malevolous lifeforms
@Hy1st
@Hy1st 6 месяцев назад
As the ultimate lifeform, Ultimate kars. Fought sukuna, king of curses. He began to open his domain, sukuna shrunk back in fear then kars said "Stand proud sukuna, you're strong" Then proceed to do Domain expansion, Ultimate Horizon of the captivating chimera shadow garden self embodied of graveyard iron mountain malevolent void
@user-ew8zr2zx3f
@user-ew8zr2zx3f 6 месяцев назад
@@Hy1stgege forgot to put hakari’s domain in the name so Kars now plays a gacha game in his domain
@dt3338
@dt3338 6 месяцев назад
​@@Hy1stnah, horizon of the captivating chimera shadow garden deadly sentencing malevolent infinite idle death gambling self embodiment of the iron mountain
@jonathankennedy1963
@jonathankennedy1963 6 месяцев назад
Domain Expansion: Aztec God of Fitness
@TheTrueCaker
@TheTrueCaker 6 месяцев назад
Kars using a Pistol Shrimp abilitys to make a literal fucking sun with over 5000 C° heat
@Cream_VanillaIce
@Cream_VanillaIce 3 месяца назад
Kars after filling sukuna’s veins with microscopic Lions:
@vinh-the-second
@vinh-the-second 2 месяца назад
​@@Cream_VanillaIce10 trillion microscopic lions vs the sun who wins
@Cream_VanillaIce
@Cream_VanillaIce 2 месяца назад
@@vinh-the-second idk, is it the sun or arabia fats
@Kokolitofora
@Kokolitofora 25 дней назад
Ok, but have you seen the latest chapters of jjk? Sukuna wins because of Kars' plot armour allergy.
@internetlurker1850
@internetlurker1850 23 дня назад
@@Kokolitofora "I see, it appears you're my- What's that..." *ACHOO* , he proceeds to sneeze with enough force that he is launched out of the atmosphere and directly into the sun where he petrifies and will continue to stay in until the sun dies.
@skeepodoop5197
@skeepodoop5197 7 месяцев назад
Y'know, it'd be really cool if you contacted someone like Casual Geographic, or Lindsay Nikole to ask them what are the craziest animals that Kars has the abilities of.
@dravendarkplays9607
@dravendarkplays9607 7 месяцев назад
Gods yes
@joaopedrobenicio8283
@joaopedrobenicio8283 7 месяцев назад
Nah, TierZoo know the meta like nobody else
@justanormalguy9080
@justanormalguy9080 7 месяцев назад
Water bear
@skeepodoop5197
@skeepodoop5197 7 месяцев назад
@@joaopedrobenicio8283 wait, actually that's an awesome idea as well!
@skeepodoop5197
@skeepodoop5197 7 месяцев назад
Current thoughts for me are Pistol Shrimp, which can closer their claws fast enough to produce a sound at 218 decibels, which also produces a jet of water that reaches temps of 8000 degrees Fahrenheit, four times hotter than the lava Kars was submerged in. Since Kars was able to scale up the wings of a bird and have them function the same at his size, sizing up a Pistol Shrimp's claw doesn't seem that unreasonable. Add in the square cube law and god almighty that would be devastating.
@andyyang9594
@andyyang9594 7 месяцев назад
Since we know Hamon users can learn the ability to see the future just imagine if Kars learned how to use hamon better and see the future.
@quandaledingle8955
@quandaledingle8955 7 месяцев назад
Bro Kars has ultimate hamon, if we're factoring that, sukuna has 0 chance, bro can probably see a day in the future
@ratio8099
@ratio8099 7 месяцев назад
i don't think seeing the future would save him from malevolent shrine sukuna could make binding vows to add external barriers to the domain. Hamon wouldn't be effective on sukuna either this mf survived infinite hollow purple while he was still surpressing his strength yeah kars stood no chances execpt for regeneration.
@ratio8099
@ratio8099 7 месяцев назад
Saying hamon would do a thing againts sukuna is like saying sunlight energy is stronger than infinite virtual mass y'all jojo fans are dead ass💀
@andyyang9594
@andyyang9594 7 месяцев назад
@@ratio8099 Kars hamon is basically as hot as the Sun… he would literally chop through Sukuna like butter… not to mention Kars doesn’t need RCT to heal himself so if he got a limb chopped off he would just regenerate it. Sakuna cant kill Kars unless he erases everything single one of his cells. The longer a fight goes the better Kars will get in battle. We only saw a fraction of what he could do in the show. Sukunas lightning or Fire arrow ain’t doing nothing to Kars since he could probably make himself fire proof. He could also just make his skin harder and more durable to deal with slashes.
@ratio8099
@ratio8099 7 месяцев назад
@@andyyang9594 "as hot as sun" *barely melts 15% of joseph's body* 🤡
@beuhmoment1040
@beuhmoment1040 7 месяцев назад
I feel like a lot of people have been making vs battles with Sukuna going up against way stronger interverse characters just to bully him for what happened in ch 236, glad Kars is getting some love though
@SaraTBV
@SaraTBV 7 месяцев назад
Seem like a lot of mad butthurt fans cause every time I watch any of these videos whether it's sukuna vs anyone or gojo vs anyone one things for certain sukuna and gojo will be downplayed MASSIVELY
@METAsMETAs
@METAsMETAs 7 месяцев назад
Before the recording of this video Ronin told me he was doing a lot of VS video on sukuna. Most of them had him dying🤣 cause the scaling was crazy.
@zigazdovc6175
@zigazdovc6175 7 месяцев назад
JJK is a pretty low power verse compared to most Shounen out there, so of course even the strongest character will often get dog walked by other Shounen characters.@@METAsMETAs
@IsThatAThaiName
@IsThatAThaiName 7 месяцев назад
@@zigazdovc6175yeah there’s only like two strong characters. Tbf same goes for JoJo
@chiateghang3629
@chiateghang3629 7 месяцев назад
@@IsThatAThaiNameBut Jojo has many unorthodox powers who’ hacks aren’t just “Yeah I have total control over the collective mindscape of humanity and can make you do what I want
@showerthoughts1015
@showerthoughts1015 7 месяцев назад
Power scalers are the type of people to take the Pokédex descriptions literally
@toothlesshewhoreignsoverdr1190
@toothlesshewhoreignsoverdr1190 7 месяцев назад
that's the thing. the pokedex descriptions are accurate
@3kojimbles895
@3kojimbles895 7 месяцев назад
Me when I see machamp punch 1000 times in 2 seconds (it was in the pokedex)
@minichad5456
@minichad5456 7 месяцев назад
@@3kojimbles895 star platinum: ORA ORA (Hold my [i dunno what stands drink])
@BlaxkSun
@BlaxkSun 7 месяцев назад
@@toothlesshewhoreignsoverdr1190 would literally be impossible
@narkle9723
@narkle9723 7 месяцев назад
​@@toothlesshewhoreignsoverdr1190 powerscalers usually aren't accurate however so even if the pokedex is that changes very little... The main issue with powerscaling is that for every example feat of some crazy shit that they explain with physics they then just casually ignore tons of other things that directly make that not possible. Such as matter moving at ftl speeds. Literally not possible and if you're gonna say "but oh it's fictional, that doesn't matter" then stop scaling using actual physics too. You can't have your cake and eat it. Also basing it on irl physics is redundant anyways because for all we know light in that fictional universe travels slower than in ours.
@no-sparringholloway
@no-sparringholloway 7 месяцев назад
So, for JJK fans who dont watch JoJo, Ultimate Kars is basically Mahoraga if he was unkillable and can make a copied techniques 100x stronger than the original.
@maxdrags3115
@maxdrags3115 7 месяцев назад
No he is not, stop lying.
@no-sparringholloway
@no-sparringholloway 7 месяцев назад
@@maxdrags3115 he literally is, he can even copy moves in the first look.
@tergartcunninghan2013
@tergartcunninghan2013 7 месяцев назад
@@maxdrags3115if it’s on Earth? Kars has a purely better form of it. Is Sukuna of Earth?…Crazy, isn’t it?
@lemillion7929
@lemillion7929 7 месяцев назад
No he is not 😭
@_Zephster
@_Zephster 7 месяцев назад
​@no-sparringholloway, and it was stated that if he encountered a stand user, he could manifest that stand so he could possibly develop cursed techniques
@kujoova
@kujoova 7 месяцев назад
Glad people are actually scaling Kars properly. far too many people think he can beat Cell, in fact any incarnation of Cell for that matter. If Sukuna can manipulate souls, does this mean he'd be able to do significant damage to stands? If that's the case, I wonder how he'd fare against DIO or Jotaro etc.
@Numbers-gStands
@Numbers-gStands 7 месяцев назад
He could probably beat fetus cell 😭
@ogattodagatta
@ogattodagatta 7 месяцев назад
It depends, is cell included in his ability as TUL?
@Kyuubey0406
@Kyuubey0406 7 месяцев назад
@@Numbers-gStandsno
@flappyflap2693
@flappyflap2693 7 месяцев назад
mf said cell wtf????? nah who u be talking to because they've lost they mind
@zohonkotsu
@zohonkotsu 7 месяцев назад
i mean if its novel kars then yeah but regular kars aint doin anything
@tenacitypov3570
@tenacitypov3570 7 месяцев назад
Kars: "Oh thats cool, DOMAIN EXPANSION"
@hollownight931
@hollownight931 4 месяца назад
Domain expansion INFINITE BULLSHIT (I love JoJo)
@af2547
@af2547 2 месяца назад
“Ho oh? It’s the same type of energy as Hamon.” -Kars
@Ibaraki_DX
@Ibaraki_DX 26 дней назад
Put the "bizarre adventure" of the title as the domain name so its the most awesome/cringe thing you will read
@sarawitrodchompu3576
@sarawitrodchompu3576 6 месяцев назад
As the perfect being, kars, fought the fraud, the king of curses, he opened his perfect domain. As Sukuna shrunk back in fear, kars said to him “Stand proud Sukuna, you are strong”
@Go_and_Joe
@Go_and_Joe 5 месяцев назад
Goatkars
@tenderandmoist5011
@tenderandmoist5011 4 месяца назад
Kars, the goated lifeform
@vivelespatat2670
@vivelespatat2670 Месяц назад
He is the ultimate lifeform after all
@InSammity
@InSammity Месяц назад
✍️🔥🔥🔥
@whifle1445
@whifle1445 Месяц назад
Then kars proceed to give life all over sukuna's face
@duallivegamers830
@duallivegamers830 6 месяцев назад
Not to mention, in the very first episode of jjk, it is introduced that cursed energy is also a kind of "negative" life energy. And kars just adapt+master hamon -a "life" energy in just a sec. It also means that if kars get punched using cursed energy once, he can just adapt and 100% throw out a black flash for sure
@nijima7081
@nijima7081 6 месяцев назад
that is NOT how that works
@seancopeland1037
@seancopeland1037 5 месяцев назад
​@@nijima7081the black flash shit is wrong, but everything else is right
@usmankhan-rv9db
@usmankhan-rv9db 5 месяцев назад
@@nijima7081THAT is how it works
@Royal420Way
@Royal420Way 5 месяцев назад
Well. This starts a different question. Hamon = + cursed energy = - What would cursed energy do to a JoJo vampire? I think they might be adept at it. They might just transform into flesh based cursed spirits. Like The death womb paintings but worse.
@jjt5073
@jjt5073 5 месяцев назад
the problem with this thought is that it would mean reverse cursed technique is hamon because they say it comes from multiplying cursed energy, a negative, by itself to create a doubled positive, which wouldnt make much sense in this vs
@thehonoredone2361
@thehonoredone2361 7 месяцев назад
Sukuna about to get the Gojover treatment while the Pillar men theme plays in the background.
@randomguy5093
@randomguy5093 7 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂
@nobodywatchesnooby
@nobodywatchesnooby 3 месяца назад
one ayayayay and its sukunover
@darrylferguson3622
@darrylferguson3622 7 месяцев назад
I think a major reason people have a misunderstanding of Kars being "weak" is because they only watched the anime, where his abilities are moreso shown than described. As such, they see he has insane regeneration, can transmute his flesh into animals plus animal bodyparts, and of course is now immune to sunlight, but the upper scale of his capabilities gets glossed over.
@RommekePommeke
@RommekePommeke 5 месяцев назад
Even the manga shows the bare minimum of what ultimate lifeform can do. It can control it's own DNA and alter it to any living creature in the world. Kars got pretty much asspulled in the manga, bullshitted back into the skies. We haven't even seen what the full extend of ULF really is.
@Royal420Way
@Royal420Way 5 месяцев назад
This is literally his first half hour as the ultimate lifeform.
@Blue-fg8vt
@Blue-fg8vt 4 месяца назад
Yeah, like when it was stated that now is the only chance humanity has at stopping him that wasn't an exaggeration. Also his defeat in the end was only possible because he didn't have time to experiment with his own power, if he did he would of realized that blowing air in space would freeze him, let himself drift threw space until he reached something he can stand on, then probably launch himself like a meteor back at earth​@@Royal420Way
@Royal420Way
@Royal420Way 4 месяца назад
@@Blue-fg8vt he should have paid more attention to his allies, esidesi,s techniques would have saved him there.
@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh
@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh 3 месяца назад
​@@Blue-fg8vtI like to think he met aliens and hes basically god somewhere else. Earth is far too inferior for him to care
@kazui1340
@kazui1340 3 месяца назад
The Mahoraga's adaptation over Kars adaptation is crazy to me because it was stated there that Kars saw Joseph use it ONCE and he could use it and its 100x BETTER THAN THE USERS NORMAL TECHNIQUE! And don't get me started on how Mahoraga takes more time in adapting because the wheel needs to spin more than once which itself tells me why Kars could absolutely neg Mahoraga's adaptability and don't get me started on how ULF Kars can create Mahoraga because Mahoraga is considered a life form too
@derrickmiles5240
@derrickmiles5240 7 месяцев назад
The worst case scenario is if they're evenly matched, infinitely adapting to each other, and getting stronger until their timeline's Beerus has to show up and destroy the planet. RIP Earth.
@mikedanielespeja6128
@mikedanielespeja6128 7 месяцев назад
then they adapt to that 💀
@chubbyanemone696
@chubbyanemone696 7 месяцев назад
​@@poopfart9801????
@Koruima
@Koruima 7 месяцев назад
@@poopfart9801you need to sign a contract with the reading comprehension devil
@lemonguy5887
@lemonguy5887 7 месяцев назад
​@@Koruimaso, a teacher?
@baappletheapple1885
@baappletheapple1885 7 месяцев назад
@@poopfart9801 what chapter does it say that in? I'm on volume 20 I've read all the volumes, unless it says that after that point, which I doubt, then you're wrong
@RazakelKairo1994
@RazakelKairo1994 7 месяцев назад
...Yeah, honestly, Kars has been a pretty solid counterpoint I've been using whenever some weird VS battle goes on between verse's. Its incredibly consistent to use just to demonstrate how many matchups are dumb and bound to the verse's rules. Kars just happens to scale either really poorly, or just insanely broken depending on how and where you place him. Tbh, Jojo's definition of an "ultimate lifeform" might be one of the better interpretations that gives respect to that title.
@murilo_the_lilo9947
@murilo_the_lilo9947 6 месяцев назад
I mean its quite litterally the ultimate lifeform. You cant really pair anything against kars because he's the best at everything
@Aedlmonrl
@Aedlmonrl 5 месяцев назад
@@murilo_the_lilo9947 they also didn't kill him, just ejected him off the planet too. Bro didn't die, he just failed to win
@mynamewastakin
@mynamewastakin 4 месяца назад
@@Aedlmonrl Adding to this. He had a series of incredibly unfortunate events happen to him while he was fighting ants. I wouldn't consider ants stronger than a human if the human fell backwards into a rock and died of a brain injury while stomping the ant bed.
@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh
@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh 3 месяца назад
​​@@AedlmonrlI think he couldve adapted to space. But his world knowledge is from centuries ago at best, when astronomy was barely a thing. He probably didnt know that space was just... nothing.
@Aedlmonrl
@Aedlmonrl 3 месяца назад
@@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh he's from the Aztecs and Mayan era, he probably had knowledge, but said knowledge is useless thanks to your last point. Bozo is going to drift in space to the end of reality and he can't do anything but wait for entropy to finally decompose his body at the end of the universe
@DonMontoya721
@DonMontoya721 7 месяцев назад
METAs and Ronin pulled out the malevolent kitchen for this one and absolutely cooked
@erhiueQWEF
@erhiueQWEF 7 месяцев назад
it's an early thanksgiving feast 🦃
@Royal420Way
@Royal420Way 5 месяцев назад
I know by now it's just a meme and a mistranslation, but it would make so much sense though right?
@Nitrogenic
@Nitrogenic 7 месяцев назад
Stand proud Kars, you are strong! -Jogoat
@FemDaHoots
@FemDaHoots 7 месяцев назад
"Stand Proud Goku, You Are Strong." -Jogoat
@AhaDaha580
@AhaDaha580 7 месяцев назад
I saw dude telling that your gay Kakashi can win ULF Kars,ow naw
@odonchimegmyagmar4791
@odonchimegmyagmar4791 6 месяцев назад
Stand proud gege, your strong - JOGOAT 🐐🐐
@murilo_the_lilo9947
@murilo_the_lilo9947 6 месяцев назад
"Stand proud, fiction. You are strong" - Jogoat. The king of curses
@kevenagner69420
@kevenagner69420 6 месяцев назад
"stand proud" -stardust crusaders OST
@trappedcosmos
@trappedcosmos 7 месяцев назад
Every time meta brings up kars and doesn't mention Jorge Joestar it hurts my soul.
@Luci_89569
@Luci_89569 7 месяцев назад
he basically did lol he just used cannon statements and not fanon feats (i dont think kars just surpasses all characters in Jojo)
@Greenhopper14
@Greenhopper14 7 месяцев назад
@@Luci_89569Didn’t Ultimate Kars get beat by DIO’s The Passion?
@Jeff_Biden
@Jeff_Biden 7 месяцев назад
isnt that non canon
@mizzix
@mizzix 7 месяцев назад
novel kars is not canon people when will you learn
@Luci_89569
@Luci_89569 7 месяцев назад
@@Greenhopper14 I dont have a clue brother i dont even know what half the shit in that novel means let alone remember it all i remember is kars has multiple OP stands and Dio has Jesus
@RigoMonroy-vj1mt
@RigoMonroy-vj1mt 7 месяцев назад
I feel like if kars had a little more time to specialize and explore his body in jojo he would of definitely achieved his goal he's basically a sentient shoggoth
@tohyuluan2995
@tohyuluan2995 7 месяцев назад
Having all animals and planet earth power is really weak
@jovanomangelep
@jovanomangelep 7 месяцев назад
​​@@tohyuluan2995kars doesn't only have all animal powers, he also could copy all living organism power, just like how he copy joseph hamon and make it 50 times more powerful and has been stated to be as hot as the sun
@tohyuluan2995
@tohyuluan2995 7 месяцев назад
@@jovanomangelep kars can use hamon it cuz he learns how they use it and fight them for a long time if kars using CE he doing some thing he don't understand 400 is don't means he understand he still need time to learn like all life form but he learn faster
@monkcheese6218
@monkcheese6218 7 месяцев назад
@@tohyuluan2995no he learned it instantly it wasn’t due to previous experience with them
@tohyuluan2995
@tohyuluan2995 7 месяцев назад
@@monkcheese6218 it is you can't just use some thing and be like oh I understand this kars still study and learn he is a life form so he has to study
@matus19971
@matus19971 7 месяцев назад
The one problem with scaling Kars is that you will either scale verse vs verse with no correlation between them or argue that if the oponent exists in the same universe as Kara that would mean that Kars encompasses those abilities and surpasses them, thus making him constantly the one with the advantage which is technically what Kars is so it's not a stretch.
@JackfrostAtreidesOmegaXZero
@JackfrostAtreidesOmegaXZero 6 месяцев назад
Except for his weakness... THE LIGHT, or also the pearl of LIGHT.
@matus19971
@matus19971 6 месяцев назад
@@JackfrostAtreidesOmegaXZero Ultimate Kars not base pre-Stone of Aja Kars
@JackfrostAtreidesOmegaXZero
@JackfrostAtreidesOmegaXZero 6 месяцев назад
@@matus19971 Anyways, If you have the necklace can beat him If you have it like it his shown in his defeat against Joseph.
@matus19971
@matus19971 5 месяцев назад
@@JackfrostAtreidesOmegaXZero you realise that Kars' defeat was all lucky circumstance AND most importantly, the stone amplified Kars' hamon, so in reality Kars defeated himself. No other person would harm Kars' even with their amplified hamon as Kars was much stronger in terms of using hamon. So not only would you need to have the stone but you'd need to be a master hamon user and better than Kars.
@JackfrostAtreidesOmegaXZero
@JackfrostAtreidesOmegaXZero 5 месяцев назад
@@matus19971 Yeah, too but anyways HE CAN BE DEFEATED, despite of being just a improbability.
@golden3065
@golden3065 7 месяцев назад
Just to throw out a random thought how well could either of the d'arby brothers be in the jjk. Since in the video they brought up soul stuff and the only few characters that deal with souls are like the d'arby bros.
@jellykracken4229
@jellykracken4229 7 месяцев назад
I mean, that’s specifically went betting said souls with their games. They are regular humans before that. The video mainly brought up that nobody in the JoJoverse has resistance against Soul manipulation, seen with the D’arby bros (like you mentioned) and Silver Chariot Requiem, switching the souls of both people and animals. The best I can compare the D’arby bros abilities is like a binding vow that requires the opponent to agree to bet their soul and the D’arby in question bets theirs. The loser gets their soul manipulated
@dualitygrief576
@dualitygrief576 7 месяцев назад
As long as they don't go against Hakari, they win 90% of the verse
@bezel95
@bezel95 4 месяца назад
The only other stand I can think of is Black Sabbath, who can just straight up pull people’s souls out of their shadows. But when doing this to a stand user, it pulls out their stands instead.
@RedrumZombies
@RedrumZombies 7 месяцев назад
Joseph still wins because he planned it all out and totally didn't get lucky.
@RedrumZombies
@RedrumZombies 7 месяцев назад
@imDpoob
@imDpoob 7 месяцев назад
Now this is fax
@Aaa-vp6ug
@Aaa-vp6ug 3 месяца назад
@@imDpoobfax? why not email?
@randomguyonyt1183
@randomguyonyt1183 6 дней назад
Joseph vs aizen,anime's biggest planners
@demonmoonx9993
@demonmoonx9993 7 месяцев назад
Kars Cursed Technique would be something insane like gaining a better version of Silver Chariot Requiem's ability.
@dandem9906
@dandem9906 7 месяцев назад
Kars original ability was bone blades which could maybe become something similar to sukunas slashing
@shred0164
@shred0164 7 месяцев назад
Kars' original power is his light blade, so it would be something centered around light probably
@FemDaHoots
@FemDaHoots 7 месяцев назад
Or Kars would just use every type of ability in JJK that requires cursed and reverse cursed energy, similar to Yuta
@ambiguous8661
@ambiguous8661 6 месяцев назад
​@@FemDaHootsExcept there's no condition like literally it's just his base everything is his base form but he's is better than all. Crap such an op character
@LexxPrimak-hv3uo
@LexxPrimak-hv3uo 7 месяцев назад
What I got from this video, Kars Can adapt to Sukunas and Mahoragas adaptation because he can
@charles3426
@charles3426 7 месяцев назад
Basically yeah, after using the red stone of Aja on the stone mask and placing it on himself, he practically does just that
@SaraTBV
@SaraTBV 7 месяцев назад
​@@charles3426it's stated sukuna can learn pretty much anything he sees once
@mgrdmcfansthatdontplaytheg781
@mgrdmcfansthatdontplaytheg781 7 месяцев назад
Hell no, Mahoraga Isn't a biological lifeform
@MfwPrivate
@MfwPrivate 7 месяцев назад
Mahoraga isnt a lifeform. And if you want to really stretch, so isn't Sukuna.
@mabFullMoon
@mabFullMoon 7 месяцев назад
@@MfwPrivate Sukuna It is from the earth, as long as it is from the earth Kars can copy it Who he couldn't copy would be Maho or curses
@AkaniApex
@AkaniApex 5 месяцев назад
sukuna about to use the anti kars technique that he havent used since the hein era
@Sandwich-5-sand
@Sandwich-5-sand 5 месяцев назад
Sukuna is gonna pull his mask with the red stone he had from the heian era
@Aaa-vp6ug
@Aaa-vp6ug 3 месяца назад
@@Sandwich-5-sandthe red stone was just so the mask could pierce Pillar Man faces
@ilnoct
@ilnoct 7 месяцев назад
the peak of Jojo content collabing with the peak of jjk content. banger vid
@Tael98
@Tael98 7 месяцев назад
Now that I think about it... If your cursed technique is somewhat based on genetics, Kars could very well adapt his own genes until he gets a busted one. And if even Nanami could protect his soul subconsciously, I argue Kars could do the same and even understand how to do it. The main issue is whether he would survive long enough to do all of these things against Sukuna (I think he would, because Sukuna doesn't like to end his fights without having fun). Also this depends on whether Kars even has access to cursed energy in the first place, and I think there's a really good chance he would. If I remember correctly l, only the japanese people do (sorcerers or not), and with Kars intellect/understanding of living beings, I think he would know how to alter himself in order to have cursed energy. Sukuna would find this interesting, and maybe even use more of his techniques that we currently don't know to combat this. Man this fight would be so cool
@ashimbeast4732
@ashimbeast4732 7 месяцев назад
No he couldn't copy curse technique because cursed technique is in a person's body and soul and kars can't change his soul
@evynngomez1833
@evynngomez1833 7 месяцев назад
@@ashimbeast4732 Kars has incredible control over his life energy, and in JoJo's that includes souls. So it's possible Kars could alter his soul.
@jcp1296
@jcp1296 6 месяцев назад
Nah I'd say he could probably only adapt to all beings on earth/his own universe
@HuangdiJin
@HuangdiJin 4 месяца назад
Cursed energy stuff is genetic so UKars could easily get access to cursed energy and make his own techniques as the ultimate life form
@cosmicsans3997
@cosmicsans3997 4 месяца назад
​@@ashimbeast4732 Stated in the manga that everyonr has CE and a technique it's the brain thats the problem kars can change his body in a molecular lever so changing his brain is just a regular thing he can do.
@kingpizza1854
@kingpizza1854 7 месяцев назад
If kars adapts to sukuna wouldn't he just gain like soul protection or soul hitting powers if he survives the first soul slash? Also bro would be op if he get curse energy then he smart asf then he can use it 100 times better than the person he adapts to thats insane
@Wezlii530
@Wezlii530 7 месяцев назад
Novel Kars is fanfiction
@anoguser146
@anoguser146 7 месяцев назад
Isn't kars immortal? so like he can't lose any fight
@mgrdmcfansthatdontplaytheg781
@mgrdmcfansthatdontplaytheg781 7 месяцев назад
@@anoguser146 Mahoraga adapts to anything and everything given enough time.
@winterace2.051
@winterace2.051 7 месяцев назад
@@anoguser146 he was nerfed by plot
@winterace2.051
@winterace2.051 7 месяцев назад
@@mgrdmcfansthatdontplaytheg781 let's see how he can adapt infinite regeneration
@PixelDistortions
@PixelDistortions 21 день назад
Sukuna probably see Kars, underestimate him, send out a cleave, Kars is hit, insta regens, Kars immediately understand curse energy, Sukuna is cooked
@messengercreator
@messengercreator 16 дней назад
fuuga open then Sukuna: stand proud kars go strong then kars: wat is this
@prodromosmakpon8432
@prodromosmakpon8432 5 дней назад
​@@messengercreatorit would go like: Sukuna: check this fuga! Kars: oh it's like... This? *Kars copies sukuna and makes a fuga 100 times stronger than sukunas* Sukuna: wtf Kars: stand proud sukuna, you WERE strong
@messengercreator
@messengercreator 4 дня назад
@@prodromosmakpon8432 noooo ohohoh
@desadograisedrobot515
@desadograisedrobot515 7 месяцев назад
Imagine if Kars just adapts to have NO cursed energy. Activating and deactivating cursed enregy production depending on the time. If Sukuna uses a domain or Kars wants to go in stealth or hide an attack he removes cursed energy on him or that part of him. And if he has to go head on or just get energy he activates it.
@JoahTheThread5ive
@JoahTheThread5ive 5 месяцев назад
The only problem with that is Sukuna's domain expansion attacks everything, with or without cursed energy.
@desadograisedrobot515
@desadograisedrobot515 5 месяцев назад
Can't beings with no curse energy leave domains? What I meant was that a Domain has that little 'intro' time, time for Kars to just fly or run to leave before he gets caught in it. Which wouldn't be hard if he can move at light speed and even if its combat, short burst light speed.@@JoahTheThread5ive
@JoahTheThread5ive
@JoahTheThread5ive 5 месяцев назад
@@desadograisedrobot515 Anything can leave Sukuna's domain; it isn't sealed off like most domain expansions. The only problem is the fact that Kars wouldn't really know the danger posed by his shrine appearing, as he can't see his attacks. Also, the light speed feats for Kars are tenuous at best.
@desadograisedrobot515
@desadograisedrobot515 5 месяцев назад
Oh damn. Then the no curse is not needed. Either way, massively faster than bullets Kars can still just run it. How long was the shrine intro? Like some seconds?@@JoahTheThread5ive
@JoahTheThread5ive
@JoahTheThread5ive 5 месяцев назад
@@desadograisedrobot515 I accidently deleted a part that is probably important, Kars can't see or hear the attacks coming, even if he did have cursed energy, and could use it. Also, malevolent shrine has a range of 200 meters.
@jpnagaming7716
@jpnagaming7716 7 месяцев назад
I’m glad kars is getting the love he deserves, I’ve seen far too many jojo vids where kars is on the lowest end
@Screaming_Axolotl
@Screaming_Axolotl 3 месяца назад
Yeah I agree.
@pedropaulofaria6126
@pedropaulofaria6126 7 месяцев назад
One thing i need to add to the discussion is that people usually overlook the part qhere Kars has the abilities of ALL life forms 100x stronger than the original. So even if you manage to HIT him, he is immune to fire, immune to cold, immune dto radiation, poisonous, venomous, can multiply, can regenerate, is completely immortal...how do you even damage him? Even in jojo he is so overpowered that he had to forget to use his abilities to "die". Not to mention he has a bazillion IQ if im not mistaken.
@jackhadskey8228
@jackhadskey8228 7 месяцев назад
"immune to cold" my brother in christ he was defeated because he isn't immune to cold
@pedropaulofaria6126
@pedropaulofaria6126 7 месяцев назад
@@jackhadskey8228 The cold didnt kill him, just paralyzed. Also he could easely got back from that situation.
@jackhadskey8228
@jackhadskey8228 7 месяцев назад
@@pedropaulofaria6126 so easily that he didn’t
@pedropaulofaria6126
@pedropaulofaria6126 7 месяцев назад
@@jackhadskey8228 because of poor writing lol.
@elone4567
@elone4567 7 месяцев назад
Wasnt he freaking out over the lava because it was killing his cells too fast?
@mazensultan2576
@mazensultan2576 3 месяца назад
saying sukuna is planetary is WILD
@agustinmora7860
@agustinmora7860 3 месяца назад
Some people went to the extent of calling several jjk characters "universe level"
@nealblaze5200
@nealblaze5200 7 месяцев назад
Meta has delivered the eluded meal, let's see how well he's cooked
@kaijuge6934
@kaijuge6934 7 месяцев назад
I don’t think Sukuna could win with Mahoraga because HE was able to beat Mahoraga, and if Kara can beat Sukuna w/o Mahoraga, he can beat Mahoraga.
@Carl_with_a_k_
@Carl_with_a_k_ 7 месяцев назад
2 V 1 is very different than 1v1
@sky-oq5mr
@sky-oq5mr 7 месяцев назад
Depends on which sukuna. If it's heian era with mahoraga then that's a problem plus he was outsmarted by basically a regular dude. Pretty sure sukuna could get him outta there
@kaso236
@kaso236 7 месяцев назад
he didnt get outsmarted, joseph lied to make him surprised, watch the fight again, pure coincidence@@sky-oq5mr
@ratio8099
@ratio8099 7 месяцев назад
​@@Carl_with_a_k_Sukuna tamed mahoraga so he's part of sukuna's TS technique
@Carl_with_a_k_
@Carl_with_a_k_ 7 месяцев назад
@@ratio8099 but he can summon mahoraga and have another body fighting for him and for Kars to keep track of.
@tacobaco6460
@tacobaco6460 7 месяцев назад
I was looking forward to this eber since you brought it up Y'all cooked here, I really enjoyed it!
@dancozdenek
@dancozdenek 7 месяцев назад
I feel like kars has a great understanding of his soul cuz if you look at jjk mahito changes his body by changing the shape of his soul kars turned his hand into a gah dam squirrel a whole ahh separate creature he is on a whole nother level
@ashimbeast4732
@ashimbeast4732 7 месяцев назад
The squirrel is connected to kars so you can say kars just separated his soul with sukuna could do and without it jjk will never exist and sukuna knows true jujutsu which if you want to know you need to understand a lot about soul at least more then kars.
@hamptereater
@hamptereater 5 месяцев назад
whole nother level...coming from-
@destroyerofturtles5024
@destroyerofturtles5024 Месяц назад
@@hamptereatermy mind
@king-xl3667
@king-xl3667 7 месяцев назад
You know your channel is growing when you're collabing with other powerscalers🙏🔥🔥
@Jafar545
@Jafar545 2 месяца назад
Polnareff literally states two times or something in the very chapter his supposedly FTL feat comes from, that he is not able to react to lightspeed movement... The very idea, that Jotaro who throughout the story either gets hit by all sort of stuff vastly slower than light or has to rely on za warudo to dodge it, is supposedly "massively ftl" can only be described as utterly absurd...
@moxbby4585
@moxbby4585 7 месяцев назад
Another thing to note is despite it not being shown Kars can fully clone himself at will through mitosis and that makes this much more one sided
@Wezlii530
@Wezlii530 7 месяцев назад
No he can’t LMAO
@shred0164
@shred0164 7 месяцев назад
@@Wezlii530 why not?
@Wezlii530
@Wezlii530 7 месяцев назад
@@shred0164 because if he could do that he would’ve, I always hate this “despite not being shown” mentality that people makeup whatever they want because they think it would work. This guy is referring to the scene where Kars makes a squirrel from his hand. He’s assuming Kars can do this and make a mini Kars that will regenerate, but if this were the case Kars would have killed joseph when he shot the piranhas at joseph while he was in the plane by turning them into himself, which would allow him to be in the WW2 era plane that he literally couldn’t catch
@winterace2.051
@winterace2.051 7 месяцев назад
@@Wezlii530 kars was defeated by Joseph's plot armor he did not lose he is still alive in the space of jojo universe
@moxbby4585
@moxbby4585 7 месяцев назад
@@Wezlii530 yeah exactly, he should've done that. He has the abilities of every living thing, total control over his body and a 1200 IQ. But he still lost because the ending of part 2 wasn't written well
@kingnugget131
@kingnugget131 Месяц назад
To all the Sukuna meatriders: Kars wins 1. Fuga/Fire arrow won't do anything to Kars. He literally tanked an active volcano and came out of the lava just to surprise attack Joseph. Not to mention Kars has adapted Hamon which has the same firepower as the literal sun. (Kars didn't even train it, he just looked at it, copied it, and used it). 2. You might be thinking Sukuna's domain might be a problem. But Kars has an adapted version of every lifeform on Earth (about 100x at that). Also not to mention, Kars is effectively immortal. The only real way to kill him is to destroy every single cell inside his body (Kars has insane base regeneration, the only way he got damaged by Joseph was because he used the Red Stone of Aja to deflect Kars' attack against him). It is even confirmed in the show that Kars was defeated ONLY due to sheer luck/fate. The Earth itself expelled Kars because he was too busted. Joseph had no actual way to beat Kars. 3. Kars has 500 IQ (Yes its stated in the show). He would easily outsmart Sukuna. Hypothetical: Sukuna uses Mahoraga to adapt to Kars Counterpoint: Adapt to what? Kars' arsenal is basically unending so Mahoraga wouldn't be able to adapt to anything specific. What about Hamon? Well Mahoraga would indeed adapt to Hamon IF he survives the fact that Kars can literally oneshot Mahoraga using base Hamon. It will cut through Mahoraga like butter. Final Point (Might be disproven): Hypothetically, Kars SHOULD be able to gain stands. And stands will heavily impact the battle, and might even Negative Diff Sukuna. (Though this is hypothetical as we don't know if Kars can gain stands, but he should, if you remember that Hamon and Stands are somewhat connected) Conclusion: Kars wins, Sukuna MIGHT win if he catches Kars by surprise with a Malevolent Shrine. Edit: Kars can also clone himself if you realize that he can just duplicate via mitosis Edit 2: Kars would definitely have a stand since they came from a virus (If viruses are considered lifeforms)
@chidiimoh4528
@chidiimoh4528 7 месяцев назад
Kars murders that guy 💀
@boiexe2105
@boiexe2105 7 месяцев назад
I mean, sure. But Fire Arrow? LOL. Please just remind yourself to JUST remember this move specifically.
@chidiimoh4528
@chidiimoh4528 7 месяцев назад
@@boiexe2105 I really want too know what makes you think fire arrow would be the make or break here. I have read jjk and Out of all of sukunas abilities fire arrow helps the least against kars
@boiexe2105
@boiexe2105 7 месяцев назад
@@chidiimoh4528 Correct me if Im wrong, (Unless you mean Novel) but Kars almost died to a Volcano's heat, then got launched into space. He barely lived the volcano no? Also you say it helps the least, Im not saying it helps a lot. Im saying Sukuna just wins this. Feel free to disagree. Don't respond back tho, because I know for sure Sukuna wins this and I dont need confirmation on "YOUR OPINION WRONG!" It is correct and I do NOT care for an useless argument.
@Kyuubey0406
@Kyuubey0406 7 месяцев назад
⁠@@boiexe2105he didn’t almost die to it, he just got hurt badly.
@imDpoob
@imDpoob 7 месяцев назад
​@@Kyuubey0406 He literally almost died. The only BS that saved him was the shell armor thing he created
@salviac7872
@salviac7872 Месяц назад
Kars: "yo that cursed energy looks sick! I wonder if I can use it??? *spawns 50 hollow purples*"
@lukan4087
@lukan4087 9 дней назад
What
@whyamistillhere3258
@whyamistillhere3258 7 месяцев назад
Technically, if you could change someone’s brain to learn CT, i think there’s a high chance kars could totally do that (or am high and have dementia)
@danielkapekele1462
@danielkapekele1462 7 месяцев назад
You do have dementia. It was soul manipulation not just the brain.
@DungEnjoyerr
@DungEnjoyerr 7 месяцев назад
​@@danielkapekele1462which changed the brain...
@danielkapekele1462
@danielkapekele1462 7 месяцев назад
@@DungEnjoyerr g it's different. You can go through surgery to change the brain. But changing the brain doesn't change your soul. Go reread the manga. The soul is what dictates jujutsu.
@DungEnjoyerr
@DungEnjoyerr 7 месяцев назад
@@danielkapekele1462 I was about to say something but it's wandering into theory subject and you're not worth my time wasted to explain it
@danielkapekele1462
@danielkapekele1462 7 месяцев назад
@@DungEnjoyerr literally just go over junpeis arc. There's a difference between soul and body manipulation that's plainly laid out. Mahito heals while manipulating the soul. But reverse curse techniques heal the body. They have the exact same result, but operate differently on a fundamental level. Nomatter how you reconfigure your brain, so long as your body doesn't match your souls true form, then you can't have cursed energy.
@k33Shi
@k33Shi 7 месяцев назад
In JoJoverse, the soul is very, very close to the body. Any changes to the body will affect the soul, and vice versa. Like how Dio being a vampire, and his body's strength directly affect his stand's strength. I'd guess Kars being the ultimate lifeform probably ALSO made his soul one of the toughest things in the verse. Not as much as manipulate it over how tough it is. And I think based on that, he could probably survive for a decent while, enough to injure Sukuna a single time. And if that happens, since sorcery is based on genetics, I'm willing to bet he'd be able to copy sorcery from his blood and then upgrade it instantly and then beat Sukuna. Basically if his soul is strenghtened enough to survive a few strong cleaves and hurts sukuna once he wins, even with Mahoraga, cause Mahoraga adapts to enemies attacks, Sukuna doesn't. And Kars can basically create several different animals and gang on Sukuna, eventually catching him offguard. However, if his soul gets hurt enough from a few strong cleaves, Sukuna might win.
@randomyoutuber2633
@randomyoutuber2633 5 месяцев назад
I honestly think Kars could find a way to adapt even his soul if he managed to survive soul slashes from Sukuna once or twice. Btw if he just adapted to have the body of a water bear even space wouldn't do that much against him, if I remember the water bear and it's interaction with space correctly.
@cornofthefarm3554
@cornofthefarm3554 4 месяца назад
​@@randomyoutuber2633Yeh, Kars got stranded in space because there wasn't any creatures that can move in space.
@ethan1441
@ethan1441 Месяц назад
@@randomyoutuber2633 The issue isn’t that he couldn’t survive, but he had no way to move in space as his air jets froze over before he could stop his momentum and start moving back to earth.
@gemraldkid6304
@gemraldkid6304 7 месяцев назад
This was such a fun discussion to listen to. It felt like it was really going back and forth for a bit before settling on Kars’ ultimate victory.
@wizardly9211
@wizardly9211 7 месяцев назад
i'm gonna be that guy, i'm gonna point out that Meta pronounced Mahoraga wrong
@Lawlessweeb_San
@Lawlessweeb_San 7 месяцев назад
This was a very good video. Kudos to the both of you. Btw, I have 3 things to say and hope Ican explain it without it being too long. 1. I think any JOJO character with STAND has some level of soul resistance attack. We know this through Avdol's explanation and Jotaro's mom. Avdol said only those with a very strong fighting spirit can use their stand and control it without it killing them. Jotaro's mom who didn't have a fighting spirit was shown to be dying when her stand manifested. Which verifies that statement... The only thing is, we don't know if by strong fighting spirit he meant a powerful soul, which will and should have a good resistance to minor soul attacks. But if not then Sukuna's soul cut might just work... 2. The JJK scaling... I do not agree with the Domain creation feat = A.P. It just doesn't work. Cos' if we really want to use it to scale a characters A.P in JJK 2 major problems will arise, especially since Domain is the pinnacle of the strength of jujutsu sorcerers and curses. The problems are (a) Dagon will be Star or Solar system level if we actually use domain creation = A.P. Why? Well, because we can clearly see a sea, clouds and there's a light source (a sun) inside that domain. So, using the domain creation will be completely dumb as; ( i ) Dagon will then scale above Yuki's "PLANT BUSTER BLACK HOLE". Which makes no sense since Yuki scales above Dagon narratively. ( ii ) Toji who killed Dagon will have to be a solar system or island buster which we both know to be wrong as Toji in his prime and his own well trained body, was only building to city block level by being able to take red... Although this was a weaker red as it was Gojo's first time of using it, and even his current red showed nothing on the level of even mountain A.P. Which puts Toji at a very consistent building to city block level or multi-city block level if we use Maki surviving Naoto who tore through a whole city block. Making Toji's highest end to be multi city block... Now imagine Multi city block beating the shit out of Island level or going by what is actually inside the domain... A star level/ solar system level character and even killing him. (b) Sukuna's domain is just a building (shrine...small hut). And domain is meant to be the pinnacle of their abilities and strength... Meanwhile the strongest guy's domain by creation feat is a HUT... with an attack range of 200 meters at high ends, so even if we want to say that he can create the shrine to be as big as the range his attacks covers... 200 meters isn't an island nor a planet nor a star/ solar system. See where the whole Domain creation meta doesn't work, because it is very inconsistent and doesn't align with the consistent show of power in the verse. 3 Still on JJK scaling: I believe the verse sits perfectly at large town to small city in AP and at the very highest Large city to mountain level.... Why? Well, because a 200% Purple Hollow Sukuna tanked didn't destroy more than multiple city blocks, then the unrestricted and powerful purple hollow he did at the end of their fight which heavily damaged both of hem could only destroy, like a very large area of the city, putting it in the small city to large town range... I know some people will say that that's just are of effect, but it isn't because Gojo himself said this: "IF I DON'T DIRECT ""UNRESTRICTED PURPLE"" IT HITS ME TOO, BUT I HAVE SUFFERED LLESS DAMAGE... MAYBE BECAUSE IT IS MY CURSED ENERGY". All this is saying, is that, the purple he used there was a full blown unrestricted attack meant to kill/damage Sukuna. And from what we see, it had a multi city block to small town destruction AP, by instantly wiping that whole area to rubble and dust. This is the most consistent AP scaling for the verse... Sukuna in his full form should be above the Sukuna who took that small city/large town unrestricted purple. So at best his current Sukuna should be like 2 time or 4 times that which throws him in the mountain to island level range. Yes, I know they said Gojo's cursed energy can power a country, but that has nothing to do with his AP. That is just the amount of cursed energy he has equivalent to the electricity of USA... And even if we say let's give Gojo USA'a whole electricity as his AP this will scale him to 3441682600.3824 Tons Of TNT which is Island level. Becoming very consistent with when I said full powered Sukuna will be in Mountain Range to Island level. (I converted the 2022 total electricity USA consumed into joules then into tons of TNT. that's how I got that... Note that I used a whole year, whereas they said "for months" without specifying how many, so I just set it to the whole year). Meaning it won't remove a more powerful Sukuna from the Islan level ranges. it'll place him at large Island level perfectly, with his four arms form. I believe using the statement of power USA to scale Gojo works very fine, since that is implied to be what all of his cursed energy can do. Which means his highest AP should be within mountain to Island level... But using actual feats from his 200% purple and unrestricted purple would sit him in small city/ large town range, which is the most consistent for the top tiers of the verse. Sorry, this was too long. I deeply apologize. But I hope my message was passed across. Had an argument on discord with some guys who said GOJO and SUKUNA will solo JOJO part 1 - 6 💀... I told them Gojo might be the only one to make it past part 3 because of infinity protecting him. I told them Part Dio after sucking joseph blood and saying he was at his strongest (should now have all his vampire abilities back) will beat and kill Sukuna and that he had way too many ways to do this. Conventionally pausing time as the fight starts then freezing Sukuna and shattering him. Or just phasing The World into Sukuna's skull or even his body and becoming tangible again, which will burst Sukuna from the inside out... They kept on saying Sukuna can't be hurt by a non-planetary character even after I said this. I also said Gojo and Sukuna might lose to Vanilla Ice who has a ball that eats space and anything in it's part... a literal dura neg and space manipulation, which should be able to kill Gojo and Sukuna since it literally consumes space itself. What do you think? From this video I believe you think Sukuna is stopping at Kars
@Flavionnn
@Flavionnn 7 месяцев назад
alot of people are discussing the difference between hamon and curse energy so I want to point out that; 1)Cursed energy comes from emotions, usually negative ones, therefore Ultimate Kars should be able to harness and manipulate cursed energy just like cursed spirits do even without a soul, in case one wants to assume that as a -vampire- (check replies) Pillar-Man he does not have any 2)As the ultimate life-form, U-Kars can do, become, surpass, _everything_ that _any_ living being can, which should automatically include being able to harness and manipulate cursed energy. The extent can be safely scaled to being as powerful, and probably even more, as the most powerful human cursed-energy user alive, so basically Gojo, and maybe Sukuna if one wants to count inhabiting a human body a good enough condition? I doubt cursed spirits count as "living beings", but that would be like considering Stands "living beings", I think it just goes heavily into fanfiction territory 3)On the "Soul Manipulation argument", does U-Kars have a soul? Well, Hamon is said to kill vampires because, and I am paraphrasing, it "revives"(kinda hard to choose the correct wording) the soul of a vampire "one last time", restoring the correct flow of life-energy in their body, therefore disintegrating it just like the Sun does, which is the source of all life-energy, which is why it was central in the plot yadda yadda you can do 2+2 So for all intents and purposes we can consider Vampires soul-less, or at least owners of "dead souls"(one could call them.... dark souls... *ba dum tsssh*), but then, does U-Kars, which can now not only withstand the Sun, but has effectively perfectly mastered life-energy manipulation to basically an omnipotent degree, be considered soul-less? I think he is, because I don't think the mask "revived his soul", but simply gave Kars these "godly" powers by gathering and manipulating an huge amount of light straight into his body, specifically his brain - it sounds less like a soul restoration, and more of a biological manipulation. One would have to argue, is biological manipulation equal to soul manipulation? I don't think it is, because otherwise it would automatically give Kars omnipotence over soul manipulation too, since he is basically omnipotent over biological manipulation specifically regarding living beings, and if he does have "soul manipulation omnipotence", then he surely could resist any soul-direct attacks and soul-manipulating hacks. I think I said everything, you're now free to call me a r*tard or whatever you'd prefer EDIT; I want to clarify something that otherwise I think may cause some confusion; from my understanding, the mask does not "manipulate your soul" into becoming a vampire, but simply massively change your body, your brain in particular, into becoming a vampire(remember that the origin of vampirism in JoJo isn't some curse or godly punishment, but more akin to scientific experimentation on the body), which in the process kills you, and well, dead bodies have no souls.
@KyngD469
@KyngD469 7 месяцев назад
Kars is not a vampire
@Flavionnn
@Flavionnn 7 месяцев назад
@@KyngD469 Good observation, he is a Pillar-Man. I used the term "vampire" because the Stone Mask turns humans into vampires, and since vampires have similar powers to Pillar-Men, altho inferior, and are both weak to sunlight, it creates a sort connection between the two "species", so for simplicity's sake(especially for those less familiar with JoJo) I fused the two - maybe erroneously. The point I was trying to make is that Kars as a Pillar-Man is still weak to sunlight just as a vampire is - and since a vampire is weak to sunlight because they're souless.. wouldn't that mean Kars, and Pillar-Men in general are soulless too - just like for example , especially after using the Mask, which is known to kill its users upon activation? Maybe I am head-canoning it(I mean I am for all intents and purposes), but I don't really see another explanation, if you want to provide an alternate pow
@mabFullMoon
@mabFullMoon 7 месяцев назад
​@@FlavionnnThe stone mask (the one Dio used like the one Kars used) when they are placed, if you pay attention they touch key points in the brain, I don't remember if it was in the manga or anime that mention this rather it would be like changing your biology completely (It would be like an evolution, something like it is - pillarmen > vampires> humans)
@Wezlii530
@Wezlii530 7 месяцев назад
Novel Kars is fanfiction
@danielkapekele1462
@danielkapekele1462 7 месяцев назад
Kars is only the ultimate life form in his verse. Assuming it applies to other universes is riding him with Zero basis. Not everyone in the jjk verse has cursed energy. The reason they do could be something completely put of the realm of simple biology.
@BorisBrigadeDoesStuff
@BorisBrigadeDoesStuff 6 месяцев назад
When you say silver chariot blocked a ray of the sun stand does make sense but a more plausible one is when he sliced Hanged Man, a stand that’s literally made up and moves at light speed
@Satsaru
@Satsaru 7 месяцев назад
Just imagine Kars adapts to have cursed energy, but then using Mahoraga, Sukuna gets a stand
@ethan1441
@ethan1441 Месяц назад
Why would sukuna get a stand? Kars never manifested a stand (Unless we count novel kars who is a whole other can of worms that I don’t want to get into.)
@kobetall8973
@kobetall8973 Месяц назад
This man Brokenronin sounds so much like Swagkage, I had to check the description and remember it’s a JJK collab
@mr_hollow8567
@mr_hollow8567 7 месяцев назад
I haven’t seen your last couple of videos but the intro animation is fire
@lildra9onboy361
@lildra9onboy361 7 месяцев назад
I was planning on looking into this after work today so perfect timing for me!!!
@CRINGECKILLER
@CRINGECKILLER 7 месяцев назад
I forgot that Araki called stands spirit hamon
@aquilschutte
@aquilschutte 4 месяца назад
You sure he wasnt talking about just hermit purple?
@MustafaIbrahim-rk6dj
@MustafaIbrahim-rk6dj Месяц назад
​@@aquilschutte if I remember correctly, stands and hamon are at minimum, the same type of energy, he explained this by saying that if the part 3 team time traveled to part 2, they'd see a young Joseph with hermit purple surrounding his arms.
@aquilschutte
@aquilschutte Месяц назад
@@MustafaIbrahim-rk6dj but their stands only got activated when dio activated his via arrow right? I personally don't really trust araki cus it seems like he is confused 24/7
@MustafaIbrahim-rk6dj
@MustafaIbrahim-rk6dj Месяц назад
@@aquilschutte nah, jotaros did, but avdols was with him his life and I don't know about kakyoin or polnarreff You should trust araki, most of the time he is "confused" are dumbasses with no reading comprehension If you want to understand how araki isn't confused in his story, check out hamon beats videos, he has a whole series debunking any araky forgot moments
@msaag5490
@msaag5490 7 месяцев назад
Imagine Ultimate Kars adapts to curse energy and he gets Mahoraga, and one of the Mahoraga upgrades is that it becomes fucking beautiful. Also Mahoraga posing alongside Kars with this extremely homosexual undertone that's seen in a lot of Jojo arcs, would honestly make me give the victory to Kars. Just on fashion and style alone.
@ashimbeast4732
@ashimbeast4732 7 месяцев назад
He needs to tame mahoraga if he doesn't them he will be jumped by a true form sukuna and two mahoraga
@Delmont_The_Delusional
@Delmont_The_Delusional 6 месяцев назад
​@@ashimbeast4732mf what's stopping him from copying mahoraga? NOTHING. What's stopping kars from putting part of his soul into mahoraga to make it obey him? NOTHING.
@bezel95
@bezel95 5 месяцев назад
Kars just turns Mahoraga into his Stand.
@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh
@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh 3 месяца назад
​@@ashimbeast4732Kars has full control over the lifeforms he creates. He can manipulate them down to their particles
@Aaa-vp6ug
@Aaa-vp6ug 3 месяца назад
@@bezel95Oh god, I NEED that!
@1kikaetta
@1kikaetta 7 месяцев назад
I feel like Kars would only get hit by Domain Expansion like once or twice because he’ll realize that Sukuna’s Domain Expansion has no barrier and he could just move out of there instantly.
@ashimbeast4732
@ashimbeast4732 7 месяцев назад
I think broken Ronan didn't mention that sukuna could his two additional hands to do hand signs and mouth to chant which will increase their power by 80% and if you say they are relative in ap and durability that 80% ap is gonna be a massive and the fact that his slash does damage to the soul which will take more time to heal grantees that if kars gets in the domain he will just die before he gets the chance to escape.
@1kikaetta
@1kikaetta 7 месяцев назад
@@ashimbeast4732 Light speed traveling 200 meters is literally instant. Light can travel around Earth 7.5 times in a second, but instead of the whole Earth, it’s just 200 meters. So Kars can DEFINITELY escape.
@farcan9400
@farcan9400 7 месяцев назад
@@1kikaetta bro dodged the domain expansion 💀
@gpavitra85
@gpavitra85 6 месяцев назад
​@@1kikaettaWhen did kars get to ftl my guy 💀💀💀☠️☠️
@Aedlmonrl
@Aedlmonrl 5 месяцев назад
@@gpavitra85 nah he's just as fast as light, not ftl read bro
@lukeskywalker82
@lukeskywalker82 7 месяцев назад
I immediately had a whiplash the second I saw the notification
@Surgery7
@Surgery7 6 месяцев назад
faster than light yet has trouble catching a fkn propellor plane thats hilarious the stretch goes crazy
@jsjsjk4365
@jsjsjk4365 2 месяца назад
plot
@THENemesisXX99
@THENemesisXX99 2 месяца назад
Reaction and combat speed does not equal travel speed.
@dedman5780
@dedman5780 Месяц назад
Ah yes, the 'faster than light' volcano debris and severed arm that launched him to space
@cornofthefarm3554
@cornofthefarm3554 28 дней назад
​@@dedman5780it's highly implied by the narrator that Kars overthought Joseph's bullshit so he didn't manage to dodge.
@lukan4087
@lukan4087 9 дней назад
@@cornofthefarm3554cope
@OMJNRG
@OMJNRG 7 месяцев назад
META! This was an amazing video and shout out to all that pitched in! JOJO and JJK best mangas ever!
@tale0001
@tale0001 5 месяцев назад
Few notes here: 1. Sukuna's TARGET was space and the earth, meaning he didn't necessarily cut through it directly, it was just his target. 2. Kars' strength was equivelant and surpassing the world CONCURRENTLY, AKA before stands became basic usage and before vampires like DIO popped up once more. There is no statement proving Kars constantly gets stronger depending on the world's current state. 3. Cursed Energy is negative energy, it's basically if you flipped Hamon right on it's head, it is complete NEGATIVE ENERGY. Meaning unless Kars can learn to control negative energy, or distructive energy or death energy, he can't control sukuna's abilities in the slightest. 4. Sukuna was only able to slash mahito because mahito was in sukuna's innate domain. Basically an Innate Domain is a different dimension with ONLY your soul being there. Though now that I think about it, if we count Megkuna, Mahoraga would definitely be able to adapt to land soul slicing slashes at Mahoraga, so yeah. 5. Eating Sukuna wouldn't make you Sukuna's vessel, that only happened because sukuna BECAME A CURSED OBJECT THAT TOOK OVER A VESSEL WHEN EATEN. It's custom conditions, not a gaurantee. I'm not saying sukuna or kars wins im just throwing this out there.
@Aaa-vp6ug
@Aaa-vp6ug 3 месяца назад
Cursed Energy is just part of JJK’s biology, so he might be able to adapt to it. Don’t quote me though.
@Aaa-vp6ug
@Aaa-vp6ug 3 месяца назад
Cursed Energy is just part of JJK’s biology, so he might be able to adapt to it. Don’t quote me though.
@wasdwasd-ku8pg
@wasdwasd-ku8pg 2 месяца назад
I would be against the concurrently thing since concurrently means the same time as. So kars would learn as the world changes If araki wanted to say kars only gets the abilities of the earth when he became ulf, wouldnt he just say the earth "currently"
@amicahcow
@amicahcow 6 месяцев назад
imo the 100x statement by kars doesn't mean he simply takes the skill and amps it 100x, but instead he takes the skill and brings it to his own level, which is 100x that of joseph's hamon for example
@gpavitra85
@gpavitra85 6 месяцев назад
Finally someone with a brain
@wasdwasd-ku8pg
@wasdwasd-ku8pg 2 месяца назад
Didjt even think of it that way
@error-4269
@error-4269 7 месяцев назад
Here before this Masterpiece blows up.
@KyngD469
@KyngD469 7 месяцев назад
Insane crossover. Nice!!!
@akshatanand1872
@akshatanand1872 4 месяца назад
This is the hardest intro I've seen for a youtube channel GOD DAMN
@melol1653
@melol1653 7 месяцев назад
Creating an island and Horizon with energy is way more than island level, energy is mass times the speed of light squared that’s gonna be like move level
@mabFullMoon
@mabFullMoon 7 месяцев назад
I don't understand what island level would be like, Toji killed Dagon with a sharp piece of wood xd
@4nnd711
@4nnd711 7 месяцев назад
​@@mabFullMoon its a special grade cursed tool, so its anything but ordinary
@josephapsey9965
@josephapsey9965 7 месяцев назад
The thing is though this creation = AP argument is absolute nonsense as that’s not how domains work, they aren’t literally creating islands out of CE, it’s more like an illusion inside a barrier, I mean look at the size of Dagons domain then look at either the room it was opened in during Shibuya or the apartment building it’s open in back in S1, the sizes don’t match up at all because it’s not a literal space, also if we go with this creation = AP argument then how strong is Gojo cause I see stars and shit in his domain, it’s such a weird bit of speculation that has no basis in the story
@SaraTBV
@SaraTBV 7 месяцев назад
​@@josephapsey9965you fucked up already calling it an illusion, an illusion is a false reality to mess with your mind and senses but that's not what a domain is, dagon domain has real water, real grass, real trees, real land, it's also stated the inside of the domain has nothing to do with the outside so the space inside can be large while the outside is confined in a train station in the case of the dagon fight. The reason why the creation inside a domain directly scales to the AP of the characters is it's directly stated the power and scale of the domain is linked to the amount of CE put into it
@theodorable1425
@theodorable1425 7 месяцев назад
@@josephapsey9965it is a literal space. Have you ever heard of pocket dimension?
@menacingpotatoleaf
@menacingpotatoleaf 7 месяцев назад
The speed difference is honestly crazy. Joseph also dodged a Lazer beam when off guard from the red stone of aja.
@ninjax1573
@ninjax1573 7 месяцев назад
A COLAB I NEEDED
@lukes401k
@lukes401k 7 месяцев назад
Something to note about Kars is that he adapts to all life on earth and everything they can do. The reason that it is debated whether or not he would have a stand is because stands are from another planet. Because humans are jujutsu sorcerers, it is highly likely that Kars would be able to not only use cursed energy, but also every cursed technique that he comes in contact with, since cursed techniques are genetic. It's also likely that Kars can see cursed spirits since his cells have the genetics of every living being. Basically, he yoinks all cursed techniques he comes across and does them better than the person he got them from. I think it is likely that Kars would see ten shadows and Mahoraga and just make a better version of ten shadows and Mahoraga. Also, there is no killing Kars because he is incapable of dying. Even now, he is still alive in the original universe of JoJo. Idk how, but it is quite literally impossible to kill Kars. Quick side note, if the version of Kars that was fighting Sukuna is Novel Kars, then Novel Kars 101% takes the dub. Novel Kars has 7 stands and has a very good understanding of the soul (on par with Mahito). He has Country+ level durability, Small planet level AP, and is so broken he has literal GOD on his side.
@kaso236
@kaso236 7 месяцев назад
the stands are born from a virus after getting hit with the arrow, he could get one THEORETICALLY
@lukes401k
@lukes401k 7 месяцев назад
@@kaso236 true. a few stand users are born with stands, so its possible that awakening a stand is possible through genetics, but Kars never came into contact with a stand user, so that kinda sucks. if he did, it is likely he would have a stand
@kaso236
@kaso236 7 месяцев назад
novel kars did and got 6 stands which were already established, the world which can stop time for 6 hours, kars is hella crazy if you think more into it, if he was in DB Verse, he could literally give himself S Cells after seeing a saiyan (just a theory, dont flame me mexican DBZ stans)@@lukes401k
@leoultimaupgraded9914
@leoultimaupgraded9914 6 месяцев назад
Hold on, are you talking about End of Battle Tendency Kars, or Jorge Joestar Kars? because those are two WAY different distinctions in themselves
@user-dx6tm9xg5n
@user-dx6tm9xg5n 6 месяцев назад
Battle of the Strongest is actually a battle on who can learn who. But remember: Sukuna might be the strongest but in order to become like Kars he needs the Red Stone of Aja and the Sun. So he can't just learn that. But Kars on the other hand can just learn Curse Energy Manifestation/ Manipulation/ Techniques. So I guess it would just be if Sukuna does the thing he did to Mahoraga, Kars might get cooked. If it fails, Kars would cook him.
@Aaa-vp6ug
@Aaa-vp6ug 3 месяца назад
Probably will, given the fact that Kars could unleash a never ending hail of super- creatures and attacks into Mahoraga.
@wobblewokgaming655
@wobblewokgaming655 2 месяца назад
Yeah, Perfect Kars would fold any who opposes him like a fucking deck chair. The only reason he was defeated was because of two reasons; 1.) Kars got arrogant with his powers and fell for Joseph's little mind games, causing him to get launched into space. Yes, I know Joseph didn't plan for that part specifically, but it Joseph was partially responsible, mainly due to how he instinctively raised the Red Stone of Aja to Kars, which caused the volcano they were on to erupt. 2.) When Kars was above Earth, he tried to use air to push himself towards Earth, which what lead him to freeze into that funky looking rock. Kars literally introduced the thing tht beat him into his body. Twice in a row, his overconfident personality lead to his downfall.
@DaralanFouast-bp2ry
@DaralanFouast-bp2ry 4 месяца назад
Also, Jojo has two ways of defending from soul attacks ...One is Love Train, and the other is Wonder of U. It's mostly because these things would either deflect the attack or prevent the user from even initiating it by killing them.
@Lifeiswhatyoumakeit90210
@Lifeiswhatyoumakeit90210 7 месяцев назад
So, I think that because Kars has the powers of all life, the slashes of Sukuna would be useless because of animals like hammerhead worms which can completely regenerate when cut in half, or even smaller segments. That improved on would probably make him impossible to cut, making it even easier
@ashimbeast4732
@ashimbeast4732 7 месяцев назад
His attack attack the soul and last time i check hammerhead don't regenerate from getting their soul cut.
@cadenza6686
@cadenza6686 7 месяцев назад
@@ashimbeast4732 You either trolling or you aren't aware at all hammerhead worms don't have souls and we can't cut souls. ☠☠☠☠
@MaybeNotJiver
@MaybeNotJiver Месяц назад
​@@cadenza6686Poor hammerhead worms when cadenza6686 said they don't have souls: :(
@idontknowokay1498
@idontknowokay1498 21 день назад
@@ashimbeast4732 The pillar men as a species are a type of undead creature and don’t have souls
@mikedanielespeja6128
@mikedanielespeja6128 7 месяцев назад
so basically, it's a question of "What is a king to a god?"
@mikeygonzalezjr.
@mikeygonzalezjr. 7 месяцев назад
What’s a god to a non believer
@marianomateus5295
@marianomateus5295 6 месяцев назад
they said it so many times when a person dies in jojo their souls moves on proving anybody in the jojo verse has a soul and the stand is a manifestation of life energy in other words, the manifestation of the soul of the user even without a stand evreybody still has a soul the only thing the arrow does is unlock somebodys pontential or awakening from there dormant stand
@dogetaza6117
@dogetaza6117 Месяц назад
Kars description makes mahorga look like a hair that casually detached from kars haircut and evolved into a concient being.
@freshprinceofgettingdisres2089
@freshprinceofgettingdisres2089 7 месяцев назад
What I think kars would do is adapt his skin to be constantly changing to adapt to sakuna
@dualitygrief576
@dualitygrief576 7 месяцев назад
I forgot the part where Kars is a human SCP 682, that's a good point
@Delmont_The_Delusional
@Delmont_The_Delusional 6 месяцев назад
​@@dualitygrief576a weaker version of 682. Kars can only use the abilities of living things, meanwhile 682 can copy black holes and have plot manipulation.
@dualitygrief576
@dualitygrief576 6 месяцев назад
@@Delmont_The_Delusional fanon or proposal, those are different keys
@periodicart444
@periodicart444 3 месяца назад
@@dualitygrief576kars is a pillar man tho, not human
@dualitygrief576
@dualitygrief576 3 месяца назад
@@periodicart444 fair
@Nolimitsbestfriend
@Nolimitsbestfriend 7 месяцев назад
Sukunas spatial slash jus appears on youuuuuuu I feel like that dog walks so many verses
@greezchum76
@greezchum76 7 месяцев назад
Especially the wall of slashes he used to kill kashimo
@flappyflap2693
@flappyflap2693 7 месяцев назад
idk if u know ths but like novel kars can just rewrite reality or stop time for 6 hours and kill him or somethn. or y'know just heal it off without difficulty even if it hits shit the dude got every stand ability but buffed, he can revert time, skip time, literally flip the earth's axis whatever jojo bullshit u know of
@confusedcat261
@confusedcat261 7 месяцев назад
What verses exactly? Because most verses now have characters who are faster than light or thousands of times faster than anyone in jjk, sukuna is just gonna get blitz
@SaraTBV
@SaraTBV 7 месяцев назад
@@confusedcat261 Naruto, one piece, MHA, black clover, just to name a few sukuna would be a menace in
@confusedcat261
@confusedcat261 7 месяцев назад
@@SaraTBV bruh, even asta can cut through dimensions way before sukuna did and its not like sukuna has any physical or speed advantage on asta , because asta is already faster than light earlier in the series , I haven't caught up to black clover but I know they get more busted in newest chapters
@jinji9735
@jinji9735 7 месяцев назад
New intro is dope
@chronred8190
@chronred8190 6 месяцев назад
a neat little tidbit is that stand users see stands, and for Kars to be able to surpass stand users he has to be able to see stands as well, and for him to be able to do that that means he must have a stand; so by proxy, if someone is a stand users, then Kars is too
@15dollarvoicenote
@15dollarvoicenote 7 месяцев назад
you could compare kars' raw power (100x stronger than joseph or whatever) to black flash, specifically the black flash that sukuna tanked in his fight with gojo sukunas endurance and general durability is fucking insane he tanked hollow purple twice this could even out the fight
@jonathanbanning9558
@jonathanbanning9558 7 месяцев назад
That’s a stretch, 100x compared to 2.5x
@15dollarvoicenote
@15dollarvoicenote 7 месяцев назад
@@jonathanbanning9558 its AMPLIFIED by 2.5
@thyentity6295
@thyentity6295 7 месяцев назад
​@@jonathanbanning9558it's to the power of 2.5
@ashimbeast4732
@ashimbeast4732 7 месяцев назад
@@jonathanbanning9558 it is powered not multiple like if the original is power is 100 then multiple by 100 will make it 10,000 but if POWERED it will become 25,000 even 4th graders know this.
@bandzxz9378
@bandzxz9378 6 месяцев назад
I wouldn’t consider getting knocked out “tanking”. He was knocked out and was internally bleeding lol, definitely not “tanking”.
@StitchedCat_Needle
@StitchedCat_Needle 7 месяцев назад
The thing is, Ultimate Kars physically can’t die. No matter how much dmg you output, he will always survive.
@TheThinker1200
@TheThinker1200 6 месяцев назад
Proof?
@mack-qc1ps
@mack-qc1ps 6 месяцев назад
​@@TheThinker1200watch part two lil bro
@TheThinker1200
@TheThinker1200 6 месяцев назад
@@mack-qc1ps he survived being thrown into a volcano and a plane crash and y’all automatically assume that he’s totally immortal? I forgot the part where he was turned into dust. Y’all gotta remember that he isn’t using some kind of sorcery or magic to regenerate, his regen is fully biological, so if you where to completely dismantle him down to his cells, he would cease to exist.
@AlexInTheRadio
@AlexInTheRadio 6 месяцев назад
​@@TheThinker1200Thats kind of a hypothetical. The thing is, kars can become turn himself, and parts of himself into (and back from) any lifeform, and reforming them at will. That tactic could yield a "Plastic Man" situation, where Kars turns into tardigrades, or even smaller forms of life, waits for a bit and then reforms
@TheThinker1200
@TheThinker1200 6 месяцев назад
@@AlexInTheRadio sukuna’s domain expansion targets all this with or without cursed energy. If kars stepped within 200m or 600 feet of Sukuna while malevolent shrine is active, he would be constantly hit with instantaneous attacks until he turned into nothing.
@woody8757
@woody8757 27 дней назад
intro tuff asf
@FrogThatVibes
@FrogThatVibes 26 дней назад
One thing I think of is that with Yuki scaling lower. Y’all know how a black hole works right? Like once it was made, even if it was pebble size it would eventually absorb enough to get to the point of destroying the world
@hotkoyoto
@hotkoyoto 7 месяцев назад
I mean, you're not wrong at all. Like base stats means alot in these battles. and kars just clears sukuna by a country mile. It's almost like the "Omni man vs homelander" battles. Where it's like "Yeah, there's literally no way for the other to win. And if you think opposite. You gotta give them some MAJOR wank. But in all cases, base stats alone would be enough to kill and fold sukuna before he could do much of anything. Let alone..all the broken powers, healing, abilities and ect kars has. If you thought shibuya was crazy. It would been something even worse with kars. If he wasn't killed with plot xD
@uranusuranus144
@uranusuranus144 7 месяцев назад
Wtf?? Kars does not outstat sukuna physically at all. Sukuna can clear an entire city and is much faster than the speed of sound.
@uranusuranus144
@uranusuranus144 7 месяцев назад
Sukuna folds Kars so hard it's not even funny. Ultimate-Lifeform Kars couldn't do anything against Sukuna. Right from the start, in terms of raw power, UL Kars literally CANNOT harm Sukuna, as he is stated to have a grip strength of 900kg/cm² and a jump power of 18 meters (supposing that these stats don't take into account Hamon/Ripple enhancement, I will address this possibility a bit later); it's sad to say that but this is a ridiculously-low level of strength to put against the JJK verse in general and far, far, far more when it's against Sukuna (and I'm merely talking about his 15-fingers form) who was very casually passing through buildings and jumping hundreds of meters in Shibuya. Being generous and saying that each of Kars's attacks (bodily modifications and living creations) generate the same amount of strength output as Kars's main body, not a single one of them would be enough to simply scratch Sukuna. Going by that, it's kinda pointless to continue the discussion but I'm still gonna continue. Kars's speed (with his wings) was stated to be about 240 km/h; Sukuna, even in his 15-fingers form, is MASSIVELY faster than that (perception-blitzed seasoned sorcerers during Shibuya, as well as Ryu - a high-scaling character in the verse who can go toe-to-toe with Yuta (second to Gojo in the modern era) who out-scales Maki which defeated a massively hypersonic vengeful spirit, despite the Mach 3 statement - which is still vastly superior to Kars's speed anyway lol). Once again being (really) generous to Kars, it's possible that he wouldn't get perception- or speed-blitzed with the addition of his special eyes and Hamon enhancement (he still can't catch up with this speed in any way though). Kars needed to protect himself from mere lava, while 15F Sukuna literally mops the floor with a character that can create an entire volcano as well as launch hypercondensed lava beams on a whim. Now we also have Kars's ability to use Hamon, and Kars's Hamon is stated to be 100 times stronger than Joseph's: we know that normal Hamon allows its user to break rocks and bricks but not substances as solid as metal; even multiplying this by a hundred comes nowhere near Sukuna's raw strength (even a 3-fingers non-serious Sukuna can easily break through buildings and jump more than 50 meters high). I'd add to this that, even considering that the Red Stone of Ajax represents a "hax", Kars still couldn't one-shot or reaction-blitz Joseph and even got blasted away from an explosion that didn't provoke any visible injuries to Joseph; and then Kars just got blasted into space by volcanic fragments... I'm sorry but with this level of feats, even Jogo (the Volcano Curse) would make Kars dirty. I'm ngl Kars couldn't even hope to defeat Culling Game players with that level of strength and speed (although they couldn't kill him for the most part). And I didn't even needed to talk about Sukuna's hax abilities (innate cursed technique, 10-Shadow cursed technique with notably Mahoraga's adaptation ability, Black Box arsenal, lightning cursed tool, Domain Expansion, reality-shattering ability that can be imbued into his cursed techniques), let alone what it would be to put Kars up against the power of a 20-fingers Sukuna. Now a more interesting question: would Sukuna be able to concretely kill Kars? It's very likely that he could: even in the case where his new reality-slashing ability wouldn't be able to prevent Kars from regenerating (which isn't impossible), his basic Dismantle technique is able to thoroughly dismantle his target in tiny pieces, and the higher his output the smaller the pieces (as shown during his "fight" against the Finger Bearer). So, granted that Kars can only regenerate from his remaining cells, even a 15-fingers Sukuna (against a target as weak and non-durable as Kars) could probably cut Kars on a cellular level using a reasonable amount of output (all the more since Gojo, who's weaker than Sukuna, is stated to be able to affect matter on a MOLECULAR level). Or Sukuna could just yeet Kars into space since a mere volcanic eruption can (I repeat myself but 15F Sukuna mops the floor with a character that can summon a literal volcano).
@mabFullMoon
@mabFullMoon 7 месяцев назад
@@uranusuranus144 Bro still unable to accept that Kars would fucked up Sukuna 😢
@hotkoyoto
@hotkoyoto 6 месяцев назад
@@mabFullMoon Seriously, you two professionals LITERALLY explaining why sukuna would lose. Yet lil bro still can't face facts.
@cornofthefarm3554
@cornofthefarm3554 6 месяцев назад
​@@uranusuranus144a mere eruption that can lift a 25 m3 boulder to space has the energy of few tsar bombs
@mr.agoshi1872
@mr.agoshi1872 Месяц назад
Gojo in JJK: One of (Probably the) Strongest living being Gojo outside of JJK: Around the strongest beings Sukuna in JJK: Living God Sukuna outside of JJK: Fraudka
@EveryoneDisagreesWithPJ
@EveryoneDisagreesWithPJ 15 дней назад
I was confused for a second because the thumbnail literally says kars is the “ultimate life form” and I got confused with shadow
@pkmemes01
@pkmemes01 6 месяцев назад
Recently there’s been debate over pre time stop vs toji, I’d love for you to talk about that
@everythinghuman6978
@everythinghuman6978 7 месяцев назад
I think scaling JJKs speed so low because of the characters and authors notes only talking mach speeds is a bit ridiculous if youre going to put other verses characters against them. There are multiple curses that use 'light beam' style attacks in multiple different fights and sometimes like with Yuta against Getos grade 1, very early in the power scaling. It feels more like JJKs author just not liking the stupid idea of faster then light speed garbage you see in other series thus 'light' base attacks are not treated as light speed in JJK.
@FeedMeSalt
@FeedMeSalt 7 месяцев назад
1. 400 IQ 2. Has no soul OR would understand the soul. 3. If he can learn CE I think he wins a "full power" fight. Especially because his cursed ability would absolutely be a cheat with limited to no downsides like other monsters in JJK
@FeedMeSalt
@FeedMeSalt 7 месяцев назад
Also Kars could literally become a super virus and kill Sakunas host. Assuming the CE didn't burn him out of the body. Kars can literally control a single cell. That also means unless you atomize him, he's coming back almost like dead pool. I say almost because Deadpool can pop back into reality even if 100% destroyed. Cursed by death blabla. Also cars survived a fucking volcano, so Sakuna is gonna be generating solar levels of energy to overcome Kars. Which, he may actually be capable of given the recent episodes animation.
@boiexe2105
@boiexe2105 7 месяцев назад
@@FeedMeSaltYou didn't just have to reply to even yourself for extra. The funny part is your saying Kars survived a volcano. Will he survive Jogo though? Im serious though. Sukuna's Fire Arrow just KILLS him here. That isn't a very big feat to survive a volcano. Survive a dude's Fire that looks like an Arrow, which surpassed a literal curse thats a VOLCANO. A stronger fire than a dude that was MEANT to have volcanic abilities. Kars dies.
@nsnsjsjshsjj1473
@nsnsjsjshsjj1473 7 месяцев назад
​@@boiexe2105 isn't kars also have hamon that hot as the sun? kars can speed blitz sukuna before he can even use his fire arrow anyway
@user-uh6gl6hb1s
@user-uh6gl6hb1s 7 месяцев назад
@boiexe2105 the fire won't 1 shot Kars, it will gradually burn him, and thus Kars will out-regen the flames
@boiexe2105
@boiexe2105 7 месяцев назад
​@@nsnsjsjshsjj1473 Blitz? No Im serious, blitz Sukuna?? What the fuck are we talking about, JuJumpsu Kaisen? I mean sure the main Antagonist in that anime is Jo-GOAT and he does kill 15F Sukuna, but this aint JuJumpsu Kaisen, we're talking about JUJUTSU Kaisen. Jokes aside, tell me one good speed feat. Kars couldn't even dodge (as the ult form) a plane. Yes, a PLANE. Even if you say: "Oh he realized it too late" it was clearly shown in the anime that it didnt hit him like 5 miliseconds later. It was just a full speed plane if we can even say so. Yet, kars was STILL slow to even do shit to said plane. Sukuna with dismantle could react THAT fast and easiely just set that speeding plane that hit Kars aside without issue. Kars is NOT blitzing Sukuna LMFAO. I think you got the wrong feats, wherever those speed feats come from. [Toji was fast as Sukuna, said from Megumi. That really shows how weak Kars is on speed tbh. If Toji like megumi said, was fast as Sukuna (which Im not even sure if he was referring to the first time Sukuna and Megumi fought, or the 15F Sukuna, but that still doesn't matter. If his referring to the Sukuna he fought that was what, barely 5 fingers? Probably even lower than that, that'd be the worst speed blitz Kars would get in his LIFE. If his referring to 15F sukuna? That doesn't matter, he'd be still faster than Kars and it'd be still gg's. LOL] Feel free to disagree. I won't respond back after this.
@BLVCKZ
@BLVCKZ 7 месяцев назад
Love the new intro
@Ajjackson-kd3rg
@Ajjackson-kd3rg 6 месяцев назад
Just imagine how cool that fight would look though
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