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Super Burnout Review for the Atari Jaguar by Second Opinion Games 

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@schtive81
@schtive81 5 лет назад
Kinda wish there were more sprite scaling racers like this on the system, it does some smooth arcade-like sprite scaling at 60fps. I would have liked to see a Jaguar Road Rash.
@JAGO_Tech
@JAGO_Tech 7 лет назад
This is an amazing game. IIRC, it was programmed by 2 guys in a France apartment.
@noloolon2880
@noloolon2880 2 года назад
This game reminds me a lot of Checkered Flag for the lynx. The scaling, the turns, the map...
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 года назад
So the Object processor is busy and all others (CPU halt, DSP,GPU work on internal RAM) better don't trash pages in RAM on the busy lines. I could imagine that the blitter pre-scales some upcoming sprite lines so that the object processor can use its fast 1:1 copy mode. > If an object is scaled the Object Processor deals with one pixel at a time not pairs. ObjectProcessor has a latch to read 64 bit at once and then process 16 bit CRY values without touching the memory. When scaling up, one could try to interleave this with blitter access to RAM. The blitter is about 8 times slower than the ObjectProcessor. Transparency needs 8bit or less. Any memory access gives us 8px at least. Still align stuff along page boundaries! For compactness it may help to compose a sprite out of multiple smaller sprites stacked. Objects are stored at 16byte boundaries. So just the Object description costs about as much as loading 16px ( when zooming in ). Objects should be stored in the same page where the Data resides they reference. Avoids one page miss. Please don't make the OP zoom out! The manual says: By adding 8000h to the above address ranges 32-bit writes can be made to the line buffer. This is mainly to accelerate the Blitter. So they mean 1:1 blit? The Blitter needs two memory reads for unaligned data while the OP can reuse its last read. Otherwise I would have thought that this could allow to let the GPU process the object list from internal SRAM ( somewhere it is written that OP only sees external DRAM ). Page size is 2kB. So the data of a sprite may fit completely, but object list not? Objects need to be pre-scaled by the OP ( in the borders ? ) and then copied ( 16 bit bus width ) into a cache. The smooth asphalt may be generated by rendering gradient spans into the line buffer at high resolution.
@yandman26
@yandman26 7 лет назад
Due to the use of the D pad for turns in that it's not simple left or right you touch a little on the angle , so if up and down where gear shift you would be changing gear mid corner. This is where you need shoulder buttons.
@SecondOpinionGames1
@SecondOpinionGames1 7 лет назад
Your right about the up down. Shifting with the shoulder buttons using the pro controller is easier but not everyone can get one of those now its a shame. something else needed done to fix it. Its still a great game its really a minor complaint.
@RetroDawn
@RetroDawn 5 лет назад
@@SecondOpinionGames1 New Pro Controllers were created recently.
@NoEscape459
@NoEscape459 7 лет назад
Great review man. One of the top 3 games of the Jag and possibly the best street bike racing game EVER. But that's just my opinion ;)
@SecondOpinionGames1
@SecondOpinionGames1 7 лет назад
I think its better than hang on series.
@Lightblue2222
@Lightblue2222 5 лет назад
Hang On is one of my favs. This game would be on the top of my Jag list. Maybe one day I'll get one.
@CPS2
@CPS2 6 лет назад
You'd hit up and down accidentally all the while, man. That would suck balls. If you have a Pro controller, the shoulder buttons shift gears. Great little review btw.
@amnril
@amnril 4 года назад
A game that I feel used the Jaguars Architecture to good effect. 60fps buttery smooth
@SecondOpinionGames1
@SecondOpinionGames1 4 года назад
Lots of fun but still no one will play it with me 😞
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 2 года назад
Very wise words, the coders used the hardware wisely and what did they get for doing so? Scorn from so much of the games press because it was 2D 🙄 Fickle lot, the press.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 года назад
I think 4 and 6 were chosen for shifting because that's what the Pro-Controller uses for the shoulder buttons.
@SecondOpinionGames1
@SecondOpinionGames1 2 года назад
It sure is 😃
@roberthanthonymartinezrive7383
4:13 Best moment of the review :-) I recommend the Phoenix Emulator Project to play this beauty ;-)
@CPS2
@CPS2 6 лет назад
KGRAMR I recommend a Jaguar to play it.
@Sinn0100
@Sinn0100 3 года назад
Another great review from my new favorite channel! Right now I'm on the tail end (last week) of a three week Christmas vacation (staycation). It's going to be very hard going back to the grindstone next week. For example, I won't be able to jump on here whenever I feel like to watch endless Jaguar reviews. Something about working and paying bills...I don't know. :) I have a question for you about the Jaguar that I hope you can answer. I'm hoping to find a decent Jaguar emulator and want to know if you know of any? I understand you cannot discuss ROM's and I'm perfectly fine with that. I would very much like to play some of these games before plunking down hundreds of dollars if possible but I need a working emulator to facilitate this first.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 года назад
And I would like to know about the timing in an emulator. Like we know that the blitter and Object processor are slow at scaling. There is fast page mode. Depending on functions enabled the blitter takes longer per pixel, longer per scanline etc. .
@Sinn0100
@Sinn0100 2 года назад
@@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Hey man, if you can find answers on this channel more power too you. I wasted my time typing what I did as I received no answer and I'm still searching for a decent Jaguar emulator.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 года назад
@@Sinn0100 I did look too long into the Jaguar programmers manual. I already feel like I want my own assembler and VSC integration. Maybe I should start to write an emulator .. GPL .
@Sinn0100
@Sinn0100 2 года назад
@@ArneChristianRosenfeldt If you can do it my friend...go for it!
@FantasyVisuals
@FantasyVisuals Год назад
One of the few fun games on the system Though the corners are a beast The undulating hills are mental. A second edition with more tracks , and unlockables would have gone a long way.
@exchaos4987
@exchaos4987 7 лет назад
Love this game!the game is not really expensive,you can't take the game brand new on telegames website!this game and many others brand new games for the atari jaguar!
@thomaselers7416
@thomaselers7416 4 года назад
"The trees looks realistic" ??? Where do you live man??? 😂😂😂 But thanks for the review, it was fun to see this game again.
@SecondOpinionGames1
@SecondOpinionGames1 4 года назад
They look real to me but im on the drugs 😜
@thomaselers7416
@thomaselers7416 4 года назад
@@SecondOpinionGames1 LOL 😂 Anyway thanks again, I had this game many years ago, so it was fun to see. (Now I only collect Saturn and Dreamcast)
@Milkiy-Hazard
@Milkiy-Hazard 4 года назад
This game is DAMN good.
@SecondOpinionGames1
@SecondOpinionGames1 4 года назад
Fun to 😃
@Seclusionloner
@Seclusionloner 4 года назад
Super Hang-On style
@SecondOpinionGames1
@SecondOpinionGames1 4 года назад
Ooo yeah 😊
@frostyhighway9011
@frostyhighway9011 6 лет назад
Good review you've played it a lot, a lot more then I have, I tend to favor the Road Rash on the Sega Saturn and PS 1 more time like a more 1000 times then this Jag Super Burn Out, it simply super BURNED me out. Road Rash on Playstation has much better control and the music and the Juke Box part was awesome. I would play SBO more if the control was better.
@SecondOpinionGames1
@SecondOpinionGames1 6 лет назад
Road Rash is so cool I love it on the 3do the PS is good to. Even I admit I play is more the SBO. Both games awesome :)
@Gorilla_Jones
@Gorilla_Jones 5 лет назад
Shows what the JAG is capable of in the hands of a competent Dev. To bad so many took shortcuts and used the Motorola chip instead of Tom and Jerry. Sucks
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 года назад
But how did they get the scaling road under all the sprites? The ObjectList points to Data. The internal RAM of Tom can be assigned an external alias .. so the ObjectProcessor could get data the fast way. I would set a branch object in the display list and have a front and back buffer list so to say where I can change x position and x-scale. The Object List is a single linked list. So will fill it back to front for correct z-sorting. The GPU or even the CPU could also go over this list and look for objects already full drawn. One atomic write to jump over those. Bit 24-42 LINK The Object Processor is completely busy on all visible scanlines. You better stop all other bus access on full scanlines. I could only imagine that the blitter prescales smaller objects so that the OP can use fast 1:1 on over-full scanlines. Maybe there are occluder boxes inside of large sprites?
@LeonLonzo
@LeonLonzo Год назад
This is how checkered flag should've been
@eriksojka9209
@eriksojka9209 6 лет назад
This is the only jag game to run at 60fps. And it's the only game to use the 32 bit chip in the jag. Too bad other programmers didn't follow
@CPS2
@CPS2 6 лет назад
Erik Sojka Lol. What a comically wrong statement.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 года назад
Doom uses the 32 bit chips
@xucaen
@xucaen 6 лет назад
I have heard of "rubber banding" where you seem to snap backwards due to lag and slowdown.. but I never heard of "rubber banding AI". Sounds more like the computer is cheating, if you ask me. ;-)
@CPS2
@CPS2 6 лет назад
James Barrett That's exactly what it means :) Mario Kart is a prime example. You kick the shit out of an opponent and a few seconds later they are right behind you again.
@myrongaines5542
@myrongaines5542 7 лет назад
smh if only Atari invested in great launch titles...
@SecondOpinionGames1
@SecondOpinionGames1 7 лет назад
It needed more super scalar and more 1st person shooters. The Jaguar does both of these well.
@myrongaines5542
@myrongaines5542 7 лет назад
Second Opinion Games Atari was pretty much mis-managed ever since the e.t. deal lol
@roberthanthonymartinezrive7383
Poor way of editing your distaste for reviews on professional publications by posting 2 comments @The Furthest Man From Home? :-) Not bashing SOG's review on the game BTW, it's a great review to one of the Jaguar's best and underrated titles.
@d.vaughn8990
@d.vaughn8990 4 года назад
Myron Gaines - It seems to me, that Atari was mismanaged from it’s conception! It was the effort of outstanding individuals that made Atari great!
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