Super Helldive Solo is Interesting - Helldivers 2 

I mean, it has to be harder than helldive is. I don't want the new hardest difficulty to be immediately doable for me. I want to have to work and practice to be able to do it. If there's nothing to work towards, why would I play?

@@dapperpotato4243 I think the comment was more pointing out that the best way to play the game is to not play the game. All of these solo runs have the main goal to engage as little with the game mechanics as possible. This is influenced entirely by game design of course, which is why it needs to be improved.

KitediversII

I mean yeah, nerfs of fun guns and mentality of "just don't engage enemy" in a goddamn horde shooter threw me off the game completely

@@dapperpotato4243 you have a valid point but game design is so silly you can clear D10 missions by just kiting, even dying to reset patrol aggro and kiting more efficiently Game just awards you for playing in a crappy way because why not

Did you see their live on steam? They can barely beat difficulty 5 lol

@@yesididitverywellPiles is ruining the game even further.

@@yesididitverywellthey failed the mission, and it was about eggs. They also talked about how the liked armor penetration and used turrets that blew up immediately. It’s funny because they never nerfed the auto cannon, the CEO’s favorite weapon which he said. But that does make sense why there’s so much artificial difficulty

When the enemies are constantly upgrading, giving us only sidegrades and nerfs is a bad move… You’d think they already kinda notice the balance issues during the dev stream but no, just keep on making it harder for us because apparently it’s fun!

And so do all the egotards that suck up to these incompetent devtards as well. Videos are few and far between, the players that solo helldive. And the videos I have seen just display boring exploitive gameplay, like crawling and sneaking all over the map. That is not fun, that is brainrot. that may be fun for the low self esteem gamers out there that need to brag about something to make themselves feel better, but sweaty rediculous gameplay is not going to cut it for the already thousands of players, including myself, that just wanted to have fun without being forced into being free beta testers. Seeing the dismal return of those players that left says it all. An advertised so called big update should have made all those players curious to see if anything has gotten better, so where are they???? Gone. And there will be more to follow.

Those of us who got gud are having fun, you should try it

My guess is that this is on purpose, because of server costs.

Haven't returned since I got back to an actual playable game like DRG. Ignore the elitist leaf lovers and rock and stone instead 🪨 ⛏️

​​@@caspianconstantine27 ROCK AND STOONE I can even hear the voices lmao

​@EH_1995 Currently only 2963 people fighting bots... but sure, just be dismissive...

Or super kitedive

Jin Roh PFP is great. There was supposed to be a panzer cop style armor but it never came out.

@@reid3335 I agree. This comment is not that deep.

At this point a planet modifier that makes hunters explode on you wouldn't surprise me one bit, and there be those on there knees guzzling the devs until their toes curl

bugs is just kite now tbh

@@black_ghost1215when are we gonna get a positive modifier. Why are we here just to suffer

The enemies could've stay the way they are, as long as they removed that infuriating critical damage they do and don't touch weapons anymore, because every time they touch them is to give a tiny bit buff with a huge nerf in tow included, honestly i was skeptical but i was willing to give the benefit of the doubt this time, guess i was right all along.

snowbriight in the wild sighting

Hole in one

Its actually funny 😂😂

You know at this point, if they keep nerfing things. I think it'll be fun if Helldivers 2 became a PvP game where we control Elite enemies and we can do that.

​​​@@thespearsaint9715you must be really bad at the game if these nerdf affected you that much blud XD. FFS the amount of you blatantly admitted skill issue is just insane. Literally ran an all turrets 9 yesterday with 2 randoms. And y'all can't deal with 2 less grenades. Y'all just suck at the game. Lower the difficulty cause you suck like the devs XD Oh one of the randos was even afk for like 5 minutes. So again. Skill issue. Y'all just bad.

cherrypicked realism is quite something

Indeed, I've being testing the new flamethrower physics an collisions. As things are right now the new weapons are going to be a disaster. With the shotgun being the only possible exception if it's good enough to replace the breaker.

The problem is they only communicant through discord where the staff there charry picked only yes men and ban anyone that speaks out about the game, at this point it like north Korea in trying to get the truth to the devs.

@@black_ghost1215 Thing is, if they had actual play testers at AH the player base wouldn't have to tell them how fucked up they are. This is a fully released game that they are treating like a beta. It might be the norm for game companies to do that these days, but it is rather anti-consumer. It is not the communities duty to inform AH what changes need to be made. We are only doing so because we are invested in the game. Although, my investment is pretty much dead in the water at this point...

@@black_ghost1215 yep. They surround themselves with bootlickers who do not ever criticize them, or worse, actually enjoy the trash gameplay, and jokesters spouting democracy XD non stop, so they think they're doing a perfect job.

Known issues list: Eagle stratagem cooldowns are too short. Orbital stratagems do not have the intended large spread. The flamethrower. The railgun penetrating enemies. Issue with scout walker bot not being annoying Issue with breaker incendiary being fun. Issue with discord server not talking about politics. Not enough environmental hazards to randomly die to. The 10k players we have.

The ragdolls are fun for the first hour, then you realize how much of a mistake they were. Funny death compilation bait for youtube.

This game mechanics will work if we get infinite respawns in 5 seconds.

@@noble_lemon Helldivers 1 had that, only a simultaneous squad wipe meant a game over. It didn't have a stupid time limit to go along with the bigger map size either, and it had a downed state that encouraged teamplay among many other things that made the game way more fun and balanced.

Some nerfs are deserved but Arrowhead tends to overnerf things. Incendiary Breaker could've used 1 less mag and the recoil. Losing 2 mags was too much imo.

@@Sombriagebreaker incendiary imbalanced power was never about mag capacity. It's about fire and ability to control large crowds. My take on this - other weapons should've recieved meaningful buffs to bring them to breaker inc. level.

Now people only see the nerf as the update instead of the things they've added

@@nitrumlegal7470 old russian saying "one spoonful of tar ruins whole barrel of honey"

The ENEMY IS TIPPING THE SCALE IN THEIR FAVOR. I DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THESE CORPORATE LIES OUTSIDE THE GAME 😂😂😂😂

Arrowhead: "Skill issue"

That all it seems to be now nothing but lies and cope, if you tell the truth you get mobbed by people that know nothing but claim they speak facts.

The flamethrower had one purpose: dispose of chargers. It takes eons to even kill a brood commander with it. And its' trash clear is subpar compared to the Stalwart and MG43. Hunters outstrafing your weapon's turn speed makes it comically bad against them. Plus you can seemingly at random set yourself on fire. Quite literally a worthless weapon. At least make its' fire apply a fear effect on enemies, make them do less damage and move slower, maybe even make them back up and keep distance when you use it. Then at least it would have a purpose. Now it's just a worse MG43.

You could kill bile titans before? Hell I was just flaming them for fun.

No he’s the voice of the whiny entitled cry babies. The game would be better without you all. Go back to COD or Fortnite

@@ezkiller93before, it actually had a use, and if you did it right you could kill everything except Bile Spewers and Bile Titans. Obviously the main use was to kill Chargers, but it doesn’t do that now, so no reason to bring it..

From what I saw, they were playing Hard difficulty. Also noticed little things from their gameplay that indicate a lack of experience playing their actual game. One that really jumped out was when they were carrying artillery shells to the SEAF they were walking them the entire way to the gun instead of dropping them and picking them up for 2x the speed.

They played 5 and barely managed then moved to 10 and utterly failed 0 stars mission failed

Being a developer doesn't mean you're good at playing your own game... that said, people responsible for balancing the game absolutely should be good at the game though... Balancing across the wide spectrum of difficulties we have can't possibly be easy - weapons shouldn't feel too overpowered at lower difficulties but also shouldn't be underpowered for high difficulties. And the differences between something like 5 and 9 (and now 10) are kinda big. Where in 5 you can have a leisurely stroll in between objectives and on 9 you might be constantly under pressure with hundreds of enemies after you every other minute... Also, devs streaming doesn't have to be work related, right? Can't they just have a couple casual games in their time off? Or do they have to be sweaty tryhards playing the highest difficulty just because they're streaming their own game? And were the devs streaming from the balancing team? Or were they, say, designers or programmers or something? Designers and programmers aren't responsible for balancing, just saying... Either way a dev stream doesn't necessarily be representative of what they do at work... for all we know they may (or may not) properly play test internally on both lower and highest difficulties. Honestly I'm just kinda trying to imagine myself in their shoes. I have 228 hours on account and still struggle with 9 even though I've had it unlocked and been playing it for probably over half of my playtime. Usually I just do (or at least try) like one full operation in the evening, which is like 2 hours, give or take, and then go do other stuff... Those guys, if they're doing their jobs right, probably have in the thousand+ hours played at this point... Hopefully most of the time on higher difficulties...

@@Moravuscz If you can look at the current state of the game, the last several major patches, and believe that anyone at AH actually playtests any changes before going live I have a great timeshare opportunity for you. Acknowledging AH employees as people should be a given, but being this level of apologist for a company that is rather clearly dragging their own product through the mud is beyond counter productive. HD2 is DEMONSTRABLY worse than it was at launch... even when all the AT weapons hit like wet noodles I felt I had a better chance of holding my ground than I do now. Their own bloody patch notes stated that they LOWERED heavy spawns, yet charger spawns have fething quadrupled! And they don't even acknowledge this as a problem? Both enemy spawns and Helldiver ammo economy are borked atm. If one doesn't bring the supply backpack they will be out of ammo after a single bug breach or bot drop... and that doesn't even account for patrols. Sure, you could always do the AH forced meta of just run from everything and drive by objective pressing... but that is not fun or engaging game play.

@@crimesguy well if they figured that out, they would nerf that too.🤣🤣🤣

there's really no time to sit there and charge shots at chargers tbh. solo I'm better off just using supply pack and 3 orbitals/eagles. that's the current state of support weapons vs bugs

Clearly, we need to nerf fire a bit more, you were clearly playing with an incendiary shotgun on super helldive instead of using other weapons, so that needs to be nerfed

Don't forget that suply back pack carried him so that needs to be nerfed as well

Are you just dumb or can you explain to me how a crowd control weapon is supposed to be used as an anti tank weapon. "Lost it's only niche" he says

crossbow is great for bots, trouble is so many people play almost exclusively bugs and I think it's the swarms but whatever it is bug players tend to gravitate to a single loadout, and they're about to release a fire warbond so if they don't switch up the meta regularly people wouldn't bother playing to unlock other weapons

​@@reubeniv745 why would i use the crossbow when a light assault rifle works better?

​​​@@thewhitestormtrooper5697cant solo clear heavy/mega nests without a resupply, oneshots devastators to the head, charger explosive damage shenanigans letting you damage it from the front, etc. its not as crazy as it used to be, and not necessarily the best at one single thing but its still very fun and versatile against both factions

@@frostacy6765 tbh the crossbow is kinda underrated now, along with all the points you mentioned it’s also super satisfying imo

Cleared a full level 10 operation with 2 newbie friends and a random 20-something and it went like a breeze. No one brought a flamethrower. It ain't that hard.

Yeah it's not fun. Difficulty 9 eradication and we had 10 chargers, 3 tentacle monsters, 6 titans... Like wtf are we even supposed to do except hide on a mountain and wait for our stratagems to come back?

@@el-low6663 Default Airstrike, 500kg, orbital precision strike, 120mm barrage, to name a few stratagem options. For support weapons; EATs, Commandos, Spear, Recoilless, hell - even the exosuit with the autocannons. Can also bring autocannon turret, rocket turret, mortar turrets. Maybe your group should bring less anti-swarm and more AT.

@@LethalOwlit's not about "but I did it!!" It's not fun. It's running simulator instead of fun bug slaughtering.

​@@LaserTractor the higher difficulties aren't supposed to be you slaughtering the enemy's though it's supposed to be difficult

@@connertomaterhater6691 That is the best idea I have heard yet!!! It will never happen though. All the trust I had in these devtards is gone.

@@iffy5bassthunder677 Thank you but if you are looking for a similar experience play Deep Rock Galactic.

@@iffy5bassthunder677 Thank you, but if you actually want a fun co op shooter I really suggest picking up Deep Rock Galactic. I have 500 hours in and its a blast.

@@connertomaterhater6691 I will consider that, thank you. However, I am a little purchase shy nowadays. I will keep your recommendation in mind. 👍

@@iffy5bassthunder677 Deep Rock Galactic is actually only 10 bucks right now. That is if you are a PC gamer.

I WILL be playing that

yea but will it be woke?

Surprisingly i found the bots are way more doable than bugs now, other than the extra flight milleage from rockets eveywhere, you don't get mobbed by heavies you can't deal with because they have no weakspots, i'd rather face 50 hulks with a variety of weapons than 10 chargers because their weakspots are on places that you can shoot without doing acrobatics with more variety of guns rather than just shooting with the AT's.

Space marines 2 will be on its 2nd anniversery before then 😂

Soooo, this update then? Because they did buff weapons, seems like you just chose not to see it and focus on the 2 nerfs.

@@tzoanast1061 LOL that a funny joke my dude!

@@black_ghost1215 See, proving my point. As expected.

​@tzoanast1061 what were the substantial buffs then? Kindly list every single one

Up until the update dropped I was running random loadouts and farming super credits eagerly awaiting this update. I helped liberate Wezen after the MO was completed. With what they just dropped on us I'm taking a break until I see some weapon buffs and enemy nerfs/re-designs because holy hell the all of the frustrating parts of HD2 just got even more frustrating, the build diversity just took a nosedive even further down, and the fun moments are a lot less fun. I play the game to fight and destroy the enemy on the highest difficulty, not run away the whole time with nerf guns while I rely on my cooldowns to do the heavy lifting. It's not all that doom and gloom I'm exaggerating...but I'm just not happy with the direction they are going. I already was bored fighting bugs due to the lack of build variety, now that just got even worse with the new enemies, spawn rates, and death of an entire playstyle.

I was waiting for the update so i could hop back. The first things i saw in patch notes were yet MORE nerfs lol ) No way im coming back.

They apparently knew about the performance issues prior to the patch drop because they even acknowledged frame issues with the patch within the patch notes itself. So more of the same shit from them sadly

@@ZeroRulz0 i would rather them release it with these bugs and stuff on the planned date rather than push it back, as while they are fixing it they can also find other bugs through community reports and other things like that

I have RX 7900 XTX (best AMD card, RTX 4080 equivalent) and I'm getting not much above 90 fps at 1440p resolution with no upscale and most settings set to low with some exceptions like ultra render distance and a few others. Also due to most likely memory leaks, every mission I play gets ~10fps less than the last, so after several missions I might be running well under 60fps, it only gets fixed by restarting the game

@@ikcikor3670whats crazy is i have a 2060 super and a 3700x and i manage to get 70 fps with higher settings than you lol

Sounds like your PC is just bad. Played flawlessly on PS5

This I agree with. Heavy armor should make Helldivers immune to ragdoll, medium armor should make ragdoll only have 50% of its intended effect and light armor should have the full ragdoll effect (but should also have a slight sprint speed increase too to offset it). Gives a reason to run heavy armor then seeing as it doesn’t seem to matter what armor you wear when it comes to damage as the armor values are a joke and you will still get 2 shot by a hunter no matter your armor because of the stupid headshots enemies do (like seriously, why do pve enemies need the ability to headshot?)

I wish fortified would actually do that

Or the commando, wtf is the point of extra armor ​@@shift_del3te249

We haven't, the devs have and they are pulling us down with them.

This is so true it hurts. The AH bootlickers are produced from a fabricatior I swear

real

Oh Mr Pilestedt you taste so good 🥺

You really are brain dead aren’t you lol. What 2 weapons did they destroy exactly? Also the fact you’re literally ignoring all the new content, is equally as laughable. You’re a troll

I say this without a single ounce of sarcasm or irony; they are going to add a mission modifier like "pacemaker disruption" that just has a random chance to die of nothing during the mission and AH defenders would say that it's actually balanced and adds a layer of tactics to the game

yup

I thought they were headshots? Is there an actual “critical hit” mechanic?

Are you telling me, that I get random crits in the face in other shooters except TF2??? HOW DO THEY FOLLOW ME????

same

@@wheatbreadonemillion Its not one my dude. The nerfs have been piling up and it feels shitty. And I was one of the people making fun of people moaning.

@@wheatbreadonemillion people will like what they like, and when you mess with that, expect people to move on. If I need to constantly adapt to a video game, and forced to play with garbage guns I don't like, then it is now a second job. That requires a paycheck, so until then, I will go play better games. Considering all the thousands of smart players that have ditched this trash, I will stick with them, instead of being some devtard's free beta tester. But by all means, adapt. And when these clowns nerf the garbage you like to use, we will be hearing you complain in the comment section next, now won't we. 🤣🤣🤣

I mean, HD2 community being crybabies, whats new?

@@wheatbreadonemillion 1 ????? buddy they nerfed everything in earlier patches and now they got pissed at us coz we were having fun so they r nerfing the remaining weapons. learn to adapt ??? have u ever played above diff 7???

Yeah the last patch reeked of AH saying collectively "okay fine here are some semi meaningful changes to stratagems that no one was using to break the AH curse of never buffing. Even then they were token changes, sure some made stratagems better but that was just stratagems, which are always on cooldown. Weapons are still a joke and this just further cemented AH's way is doing things.

Try getting gud before you call for nerfs

y u p, I feel like they had difficulty in a good spot before but they just made things tankier with charger behemoth changes and now we have impailers. bots are in a decent spot for a couple weapons but ragdolling is at an all time high

There's also the off chance you find a support weapon on the map anyways. Sure it might just be a machine gun, but hey it's something and a slot saved for strats.

Did you say beefier bile spewers, because fuck that.

@@Trollensky nah the super big looking chargers can't remember what they called, that ohdough saw in the super colony, I've seen 3 of those massive ones come at me at same time.

I almost never dive anymore, I’ve learned from my mistakes. If I stand and take it I have a much higher chance of survival than if I dive and ragdoll.

Most of these complaints are absolutely worthless. If you don't want to think about resource management & timing your animations properly, don't play this game. Simple as

​@@jaeger2278can you speak up, i can't hear you while you're swallowing Arrowhead's meat

tell that to the railgun.

Keep dreaming

More samples and a shit ton more enemies. Also there are mega nests that are marked on the map.

More enemy spam and less viable options due to the weapon balance still being shit.

The super nest also apparently has a special item that you need to extract with to get special rewards. Everyone thinks it's additional resources but I'm not sure if that's been confirmed or not

Well duh. Have you not noticed each difficulty has a different amount of samples to collect.

I've managed to extract a couple of times with the Terminides' egg; it's not really worth it. At the end of the mission, it only gives you 2 super samples and 4 rare samples, which is quite disappointing because I expected more when they said "a fabulous reward," like a loot area with the possibility of getting super credits.​@@ZeroRulz0

Man quit being dumb for today The fact that you can solo D10 kiting enemies and running away is just bad. Will they nerf running also? Or they will give enemies more movement speed? Helldivers went into Kitedivers again

@@valenkierkegaarde3824 oh sorry sometimes I forget I need to do this for people like you /s

helldivers vs bugs has been kite divers for the longest time. the TTK to kill things is just too high for it to be any different.

@@Mrpwn3 don't be sorry, I just told you so because you were about to spend all the sillyness for today, keep some for tomorrow

Have you actually played the new update or are you just spouting negativity without playing

@@Rocket_Devastator yeah I played it. No sir I don't like it.

@@HansKlopekI agree with you, I miss the game & it’s difficulty on launch it didn’t feel artificial and everything was viable too. Now they just keep nerfing shit or keep introducing new bugs or glitches that takes them forever to patch out now :/

Yea I've always had my problems with the game but never have I felt like I wanted to stop playing once I started a session. This patch I just got sick of playing it after about 2 missions.

@@Rocket_Devastator"spouting negativity" is such a bot comment bruh How much devs are paying? 20 cents per comment?

That’s nice to know. Thanks

We CaNt BuFf WeApOnS bEcAuSe PoWeR cReEp

@@valenkierkegaarde3824ironically, many live service games survive because of power creep weapons. It's not fun to grind for new weapons for them to turn out to be exact sidegrade of previous ones. Players always want to feel that their effort brought them something better this time.

@@LaserTractor the thing is when they release weapons, they already are nerfed lol When tenderizer was released, it had worse stats than the liberator When the purifier was released, oh boy what a crappy weapon The main argument of AH toe lickers is the power creep BS or power fantasy BS which IMO is plain dumb because I've never felt overpowered in HDII In HD yes, NGL

@@valenkierkegaarde3824 you may not explain it to me. I was playing full time since release till april-may. Couple of times in june and july. Watching how they destroy every fun thing was and is very painful. This title picture of a game where helldivers are shooting everything around them while holding their ground...it was really like that. It felt like that. Hunters were dealing like 1/6 or 1/5 of your hp, not ridiculous amount of hp like they do now. Bot spawns were easier. Right now it's running simulator. I wanted to roleplay as a cool helldiver, not a dude with paper gun who dies from 2 enemy hits.

Who quoted this again?

Can't you use it while not having access to your strategems?

I'd likely just not use a support weapon at all vs bugs atm.

Ignoring them

No fun allowed in this game. Learn to cope with that fast or be angry every patch.

To get you to buy the new warbond

@@morgoth2425literally the exact reason

Someone brought up the brilliant suggestion to make so Hunters can explode on you (Bile Hunters?) Don’t forget, let’s also make so Shriekers can pick you up and drop you directly into a horde of enemies 😃

railcannon isn't consistent for a 1 shot. it's cooldown makes it not worth bringing imo.

@@OhDough I don't do solo so I understand you want to find an efficient and fast way to deal with it. Ι agree, the cooldown is too much for the Railcannon Strike. Unfortunately there are not so many ways dealing with the Impaler fast and easy. Most of the time I just use orbital precision strike and maybe if it's already got hurt by someone else in the group it goes down. If not some of his armor after the precision strike will go away (the back legs have weak armor) and I can just finish it.