SUPERCHARGING your C5 Corvette? (Will your Transmission BREAK?)

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You have decided to Supercharge you C5 Corvette. With a 200+ bump in horsepower, will your transmission need to be upgraded or will it be able to stay together? Take a look as I walk through my 3 years of supercharged manual transmission C5 Corvette experience - and also ask A&A Corvette and East Coast Supercharging (ECS) what they know about the C5's (auto & manual)Transmissions ability to handle the extra power.
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@christopherdutro168 Год назад

Thanks for always including us guys with AUTOMATICS !

@JAKEWJONES Год назад

Thanks for including the faux Corvette owners.

@Toys4Life Год назад

😂

@callofgamer24 11 месяцев назад

@@JAKEWJONESWhat color is your Corvette?

@JAKEWJONES 11 месяцев назад

@@callofgamer24 red 2001 Z06

@volt101x 2 месяца назад

@@JAKEWJONES You sound like a child ... grow up buddy 👍

@puppysayshi7848 3 года назад

My completely stock 4l60E held up on my C5 for 28000 miles at 6 PSI. Another 9000 miles at 10 PSI .When I went to 14 lbs it died after 4 very fast 1/4 mile runs. It had 712 RWHP and 647 torque on a mustang dyno when it blew.

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

Excellent feedback - thank you! What year is your C5?

@crisdesasia6897 3 года назад

Me shifting my C5 Z06 at 7,000 RPM: 👁👄👁

@mariopantoja3908 2 года назад

Love this dude he explains it so well 👏

@Toys4Life 2 года назад

Thanks man!

@discretion4362 2 года назад

Great video ! Im looking to buy and supercharge a relatively stock c5. This was very informative.

@Toys4Life 2 года назад

Thank you sir!

@daren9721 3 года назад

Great video. I'm doing my clutch first act twin disc. Break it in then supercharged. Can't wait it's killing me July is when the clutch gets done. We need to see more driving vids. At least I can watch some of those while I wait lol.

@simonrobins7536 3 года назад

why so long for the clutch to get done?

@daren9721 3 года назад

The shop I'm dealing with is booked agp customs in NewMarket ontario canada. There the best shop around in my area. And we are in lock down up here.

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

Thanks for the comment! Summer is near here so more driving vids it is!

@TheTmshuman 3 года назад

I had an ACT twin disc on my Novi 1500 C6Z06. I actually liked it more than my tilton even though it rattled to high heaven. I like to slip my clutch on launch and the ACT could slip well. I was getting 1.6 60’s on NT05Rs. I’m on a Texas Speed 427 and YsiV7B and a tilton twin because the ACT wasn’t strong enough on paper and I’m not going back in that soon after a new motor. Don’t do a tilton unless you like to shake as the clutch grabs and the motor mounts bounce. It just sticks to quickly and the pedal weight when hot is a hundred pounds I’d swear. You’ll be happy with the ACT.

@daren9721 3 года назад

@@TheTmshuman thanks for the feedback 👍🏼

@invertedpolarity6890 3 года назад

Had an 02 C5Z for about 2 years; didn’t supercharge it. I traded the C5Z for a 2011 C6 GS. I added an Edelbrock E-force, headers, etc. Put down 520 Hp/Tq to the wheels. Upgraded the clutch to Monster LT1-S twin disk. Been 2 years now, no problems.

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

I have the same LT1s as well, it's not cheap, but sure is smooth and durable!

@robvas 3 года назад

That is a sad amount of power.

@angelo_giachetti 2 года назад

This vid is about the 4L60.

@angelo_giachetti 2 года назад

I have an LS2 with an Eforce and small cam on E makes 605 whp. The 6L80e trans is good but for how long is anyones guess.

@johnenelsonjr 3 года назад

What a great timely video for me. Have 01z (18k miles) in for ecs supercharger and cam. (Already headers, xpipe, etc) Will be interesting...i love my drag radials too. Im not a clutch dump type of guy..but im mentally preparing for either clutch, diff, or output shaft failures. But sort of game...curious how long the stock will last. (I did add a diff brace..reduced wheel hop substantially..similar to your other vid). Got great flatbed towing with my roadside service ready to go..lol. Your channel bar none is my favorite c5 videos. Keep it up. I would love to see more test and tune vids..you experimenting making 60 ft times quicker and stuff like that. Im going to c6z shocks soon to hopefully eliminate remaining drivetrain shudder.

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

Thanks for the kind words! You are going to need a grin-ectomy when you get your C5 back. Like a whole new ride - ENJOY! & thanks for the future VID ideas! Toys

@johnenelsonjr 3 года назад

@@Toys4Life grinectomy...lol. i will have to steal that one😄

@dynotunemotorsports9156 3 года назад

So far so good here. If you remember my car is making 826 rwhp and 775 rwtq. My transmission is untouched with 87,000 miles. Would love to chat with you sometime if you are interested.

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

You must be being kind to your drivetrain if nothing has broken at those power levels - nice work! Whereabouts do you live? Assuming not in MN?

@dynotunemotorsports9156 3 года назад

@@Toys4Life - Columbus Ohio. I would not say I am easy on the car. I do not power shift it. But I do snatch the gears in it quickly. On the fence to build this C5Z of mine with a TR6060 and ZR1 Diff or just find a 08 and newer C6 and build it next. Shooting for 1100 to 1200 rwhp on the next one.

@PNW_Car_Mods 3 года назад

My dream is to have a Monster twin disc, 12mm torque tube, TR6060 and a C6Z diff. Only problem is that costs what the car is worth lol. Great video Toys. Your add in example clips were awesome. I have a 97 trans and I know it's not up to the task other than cruising and no power shifting ever.

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

Thank you Sir! You could upgrade you M6 to the 2002 and new torque tube - that would help a lot. But I agree, if I ever seek HUGE power with slicks - the TR6060 setup and C6Z diff is the way to go. P.S. When will you be putting out an update vid on your new supercharger setup?? Cheers!

@PNW_Car_Mods 3 года назад

@@Toys4Life Hopefully this evening pacific time. :)

@davidterceira7451 3 года назад

Great video, on the fence about subscribing. Just to many good videos. But I think you will get my vote . Thank you!

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

Appreciate that thank you!

@lexxielex 2 года назад

Go ahead and subscribe! He puts out great and informative content.

@Toys4Life 2 года назад

Thank you, much appreciated!

@lexxielex 2 года назад

@@Toys4Life You are very welcome! Plus you are local, so that makes you cooler 🤣😂

@Toys4Life 2 года назад

@@lexxielex Sweet - what city are you in?

@johnberger5539 9 месяцев назад

Have a 2002 C5 Z06. It's been through a few 'incarnations' with the drive train. In the 'dumbest' incarnation it had a 427 twin turbo from LPE dynoed at 710 RWHP and 800 RWTQ. Had to install a Carolina twin disk clutch and a DTE race diff. It was going though diffs like shit through a goose. Also installed an oil cooler and diff/tranny cooler as well as oversized alum radiator and double adjustable coil overs. Tracked the car a lot on road courses, never dragged it. Am a nationally certified instructor. Car was a handful as a twin turbo on a road course. Throttle application had to be done gently and smoothly or it simply lit the tires up. Ran Lime Rock entirely in 4th/5th gear as 3rd was useless due to wheel spin. Would have preferred the non-Z06 taller gear ratio rather than the shorter Z06.Turbos burned up lots of underhood stuff even though it was heat-shielded and I had a Kerry Hitt air extraction hood. Wouldn't go that route again. Car ran best as a N/A 427 and the coil overs completely altered the handling. The stock suspension was always 'twitchy' on corner exit and the Penske's completely eliminated that behavior. Never did have any issues with the tranny even at 710 RWHP.

@Toys4Life 9 месяцев назад

Appreciate you sharing your first hand experience and thoughts!!

@Corsavette02 2 года назад

Even stock.....10 years ago I would notice my clutch pedal sticking when I shifted around 5700 or higher in my LS1 non Z06...I learned that I could prop the pedal back with my toes underneath the pedal, then drive normally for like you said, 10 seconds or so....and then maybe tap the clutch and do a mid pump or two....and that would help build clutch pressure again...its a pain. I changed out my clutch fluid to DOT4, which increases the fluids ability to absorb moisture and prevent boiling (which reduces clutch pressure and allows it to stick)...changing to DOT4 helped alot, you just have to change it more frequently...so every 6 months normal driving, or after some drag passes, II change out my clutch fluid. It still sticks with 6250 rpm shifts, but def not as bad.

@Toys4Life 2 года назад

In my research when mine first did this I found that brand new C5's of all varieties were know for this. Lingenfelter investigated the issue and cam up with their clutch spring kit as a semi-fix. I am convinced the pressure plate cannot handle high RPMs because once I changed to a monster clutch with a NEW stock slave cylinder and my same OLD clutch master I can shift at 6500 all day long with no issues. I do blead my clutch fluid once a year or so now - I put in a remote bleeder when I did the clutch. Thanks for the comment!!

@drewedward3003 2 месяца назад

Like mentioned the pressure plate “fingers” get weak and cause the dead pedal. The only fix it to replace the clutch with a better unit

@kirbymullins3114 Год назад

Thanks for the video. I'm thinking about a supercharger for my 99 and I just had my 4l60e rebuilt with some stronger Component, my other concern is the stock axles. The car has 57000 miles on it with the 315 gear

@Toys4Life Год назад

I know you can upgrade the M6 axles - I am not as familiar with the auto axles unfortunately.

@callofgamer24 11 месяцев назад

Automatics with 3.15s have the same differential carrier as the manual cars so all of the components are interchangeable with them.

@paperboy371 Год назад

Plan to break everything and you won’t be surprised. Have fun first!

@todd8928 2 года назад

OK, another excellent video. I have a question for you with regards to "using your tires as a sort of fuse". As you know there are a couple different driving modes in the C5. I am wonder which one would be the best to avoid damage from a supercharger. I am thinking COMPETITIVE MODE with all the traction control and other handling stuff turned OFF--since tire spin might be my savior. What do you think?

@Toys4Life 2 года назад

I think active handling off is best. There may be a way to tune it, but I believe the traction control is set up anticipating stock horsepower levels. I think it's a little slow to react when supercharged- but it still does. I haven't really examined adjusting the tune or if it's even possible because I just shut it all off for drag racing.

@wydopnthrtl Год назад

TCS in stock form kills power for too long to get really good acceleration. And for the dragstrip its simply not active enough to make good ET's.

@viziocamaro Год назад

Nice jumbo’s video

@Toys4Life Год назад

@paperboy371 Год назад

*Jimbo

@angelobovara317 3 года назад

Not a C5 but I started with the worst combo. A 30000 mile C6 LS2, 6L80e 6 speed auto. It had an Edelbrock E force, 6psi charger when I bought the car and has always been well maint. I had the trans serviced, old fluid was clean. Then I added Kooks full no cats exh. and Borla ATAK mufflers, CompCams 222/228 cam on 114 LSA, 566/571 lift, push rods & rocker mods. Kept stock stall. Also, Flex fuel, A&A twin fuel pumps to ID1050x injectors a smaller 3.50 blower pulley for 9-10psi and tuning. Makes 605whp/570wtq Its always on MT 315 35 17 DRs. I dont drag race. Roll race only. I do all the BEST practices, No pointless smokey burnouts. Drives like a stock car. We shall see how long the trans lasts. All work & tune done at Speed Inc. in Chicago, they did a great job.

@angelobovara317 3 года назад

Follow it on IG #angelobovara

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

I've been researching c6s and I agree, that six-speed automatic seems to be a weak spot. I hope yours stays together because six gears is better than four, unless they break!!

@billyfoster3223 2 года назад

Get a manual 6 speed version; based on Borg Warner T56!🛠️👍

@Toys4Life 2 года назад

I do. But, if you're into drag racing automatics should be your jam!

@MS-mr4zm 2 года назад

My C5Z A&A blown + cam/meth etc making 700’s whp car has 56k miles on it 6 speed shifts smooth & crisp w/ MGW shifter/lower box & changing fluid w/ Amsoil ATF every 5-10k miles have had no issues performance wise. I have noticed some weeping of fluid from the tranny after a long drive, but I think that has stopped since the last fluid change may have been overfilled a bit & coming out of vent cap after expanding

@Toys4Life 2 года назад

That's a ton of horsepower at the wheels, I figure I have about 530. Have you run it at the track, what sort of mile per hours does she obtain? Curious, why are you changing the transmission fluid so often?

@MS-mr4zm 2 года назад

@@Toys4Life yeah I wouldn’t say you “get used” to the power @ WOT (particularly when weather is 75 or lower) but as you know the way these A&A blowers make boost esp w/ the hearing of the C5Z the power comes on hard & heavy in the upper 1/3 of the RPM range so you can drive it around “normally” for the most part w/o it feeling crazy. I change the tranny fluid that often for 2 reasons, 1 being the first time I swapped it out years ago after installing an MGW shifter & while liking the new shift feel it still didn’t seem perfect so I swapped the fluid w/ fresh Amsoil ATF & the shift feel/smoothness was so immediately apparent directly after it made me a fan. 2nd is I get it up on blocks to change the oil @ the end of every driving season before winter (live in NE) so while it’s up there I change the trans fluid since it’s so damn easy & I tend to drive it about 5k a year, I’ve skipped a year before so sometimes 10k lol

@mikejackson4147 3 года назад

Question - I have a 2001 C5 Corvette, 32,000 MI, BTR stage 3, vararam intake, x-pipe, cat delete, Corsa extreme exhaust, LS6 intake, long tube headers and upgraded lifter kit. I'm currently making 412 at the wheel horsepower, I am experiencing the clutch issue. Will a vortec V1 fit the LS1 C5. Can't find a lot of it other than the V2 and V3

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

I'm not familiar with the V1. I would call ECS or A&A.

@jeffb243 2 года назад

Great video! My 2001 with an automatic that has 112K and been regularly serviced ought to ok, for a while. I’d really like an RPM transmission and a 3:42 differential before even contemplating this!

@Toys4Life 2 года назад

Not a bad idea - especially with 112k on the clock!

@benjaminchartier6458 3 года назад

Will supercharging survive the new EPA purge going on? I hope so,but what I have read about it,the EPA is banning bigger fuel injectors and hi pro tunes. You typically need bigger fuel injectors for forced induction

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

With politicians.......Only time will tell. Join SEMA!

@Ts-zy4bw Год назад

I have 70k on my original LS6 clutch. I’m thinking about installing the base A&A kit. I don’t abuse my car and won’t be out tearing it up constantly. You think the OEM clutch could live a bit?

@Toys4Life Год назад

Yes, just make sure you are letting the clutch lock before the foot goes back to the floor and it should last a while. Also, my LS cultch was fine for one season after the SC- but when I went drag racing and shifted conservatively it did not slip- but it did not like shifting above 6200 rpms - started sticking to the floor which is a common stock LS1/LS6 clutch issue and the subject of MANY discussions.

@20bryson09 3 года назад

Are there any plans to run flex fuel? If so, would you possibly do a video on that?

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

I am running E33 on my setup. Do you think people would be interesting in knowing why I would do that - what the benefits are of doing so?

@angelobovara317 3 года назад

E85 will be worth at least 50hp this C5.

@mannyfox8089 3 года назад

@@Toys4Life please yes- also more supercharger compilations (sounds pulls etc) would be super cool

@kirkthejerkthe1st 2 года назад

I'd engage the clutch before hammering on it, not DISengaging it.

@Toys4Life 2 года назад

Crap, I said that wrong didn't I. Good catch sir!

@_IRONJAW 2 года назад

im not supercharging mine anytime soon But based on these comments, i installed a transmission cooler to improve reliability. 150,400 on the clock and still new to me!

@Toys4Life 2 года назад

Nice!

@Bizzybee1. Год назад

Anyone have a used supercharger for sale?? Looking to boost the stock C5

@Toys4Life Год назад

Try A&A or ECS and see if they have any trade in units. I know A&A has a trade in program. Tell em Toys4Life sent you!

@robertgrasberger3713 2 года назад

Any one in NJ I can talk to about having a charger installed and a tune 52k miles 6 speed trans Babyed Hard to find one that isn't

@Toys4Life 2 года назад

ECS - I believe?

@gotmylk 2 года назад

Yes, ECS in Cream Ridge. Right by 6 Flags.

@anthony5538able Год назад

What about the diff? I’ve got a 99 with stock diff, will it hold up with the supercharger?

@gotmylk Год назад

All depends on how you drive the car. My ‘99 stock diff failed from hard launches at the track when my car was NA heads and cam 391/379 at the wheels with 80k miles on the clock. My single rib 4.10 diff failed at 20k miles my first launch at the track in 2020 @ 418/388rwp. My stock 3 rib 3.42 Z06 diff with shotpeened gears has held up for 40k miles 8k of which at 640/568 rwp (no returns to the track). So no track days and hard launches on prepped surfaces with sticky tires the stock diffs can and will hold up for a long while.

@Toys4Life Год назад

I agree with everything you said.

@user-jt8xw6fd1v Год назад

Will 560 HP and a 3.15 final drive be enough to reach 200 MPH in an otherwise stock Corvette C5 A4?

@Toys4Life Год назад

That is enough power for sure, I don't think you would run out of gear - but to be honest I have not really thought much about going past 140 or so. Hmmmm, Texas Mile??

@user-jt8xw6fd1v Год назад

@@Toys4Life Do you know if there's a way to calculate how much power it would take? This is for science only, I haven't lost my will to live or anything *lol*

@TheeAmateur 3 месяца назад

Thanks handy to know. I have a cammed C5 with 380whp however on aggressive launch I too have experienced wheel hop in the rear. Do you have a vid on how to reinforce or address this matter aside from cheap tyres?

@Toys4Life Месяц назад

This should help. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e3whyTdSZR0.html

@drewedward3003 2 месяца назад

4l60 is on borrowed time even in stock form

@Toys4Life 2 месяца назад

rpmtransmissions.com/products/4l60e-level-v-3/

@MrMisanthrope1RBjr Год назад

my grandma was hell on wheels,

@Toys4Life Год назад

lol

@qellen128 Год назад

How much would a manual swap run me?

@Toys4Life Год назад

Not sure, a lot of work, especially if you have to pay somebody a shop rate of 100 plus per hour. If you had a donor car and we're doing the work yourself it might be worth it. But that's not what you asked.

@Codeblack_the_1 3 года назад

Did you say banks for watching?

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

What are you trying to say, I need to stop drinking before making videos?? Lol... I thought I said thanks... Cheers man!

@TheMjphoto45 Год назад

Or pistons

@Toys4Life Год назад

I made an exact video about that, like the top five reasons not to supercharger C5. Certain activities are much more likely to cause piston damage than others so I think it depends on your intended use amount of power etc.

@mauriciohermoza-suarez5166 3 года назад

is it a good time to buy a C5 right now? In Minnesota they seem to be overpriced. looking to spend under 25K

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

Used car prices are way up, including Corvettes. There's a shortage! I'm not sure how long it's going to take for the manufacturers to supply the market and bring it back into balance....

@mauriciohermoza-suarez5166 3 года назад

@@Toys4Life ok thanks I will wait for better time and save up in the meantime

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

It might be a year or more for the new and used car supply to increase, so if you can wait I think you'll save some dough.

@peteypablo13 3 года назад

I’m in the Cities area and there have been a decent amount of C5’s selling for $13-16K, but they sell extremely quick. Check fb marketplace and don’t be afraid to travel a bit further out for a quality car. There’s an ‘02 coupe in Fargo, ND for $15K. Just check the mileage and make sure it’s in good condition! I just picked up an ‘01 Coupe w/ 81,000mi for $13,500. Two owners and extremely clean inside & out. Just gotta check frequently and reach out right away!

@Toys4Life 3 года назад

Indeed. You need to be an aggressive buyer if you're serious about getting one.