Superhero Fatigue is Real, and It's HERE - A Rant 

Don't have to.

​@@VerilyViscousExactly. It happened. Now will Disney try to buy Toho?

@@Mister-Six The Age of Heroes is over. The Age of the Monsters has arrived

​@@MrLolguy93The filth of the 'message' is finally washing away.

Imagine having lower quality special effects than a 15 mil Godzilla movie. Hell big budgets and good special effects were why Hollywood stayed dominate so long but the budgets have just gone up and the quality of the effects is worse than it was decades ago. Look at Iron Man his suits in the first movie look way better than the nano tech(excuse for bad CGI) ones in infinity war and end game

"No message is too small too push, no sacrifice on the altar of wokeness too small" Admiral Iger

i still like superheroes. But they started at the top, with good stories and characters and now try to sell us the woke bullshit. They can have that. I won`t even pirate that shit.

As fast as they could? This has been torture pr0n.

@@elLooto Only for speedsters like The Flash, so how many "settlements" have WBD made on behalf of a certain ersatz millworker?

@@thomask5434 they had to shoehorn "the message" into superhero movies because they know if they created a NEW IP for that crap NO ONE would watch or care. thats why they are moving on to video games now.....

I liked Goldeneye

@@mrcliff3709 GoldenEye is my favorite Bond film, I will defend that to my last breath, ironically it was followed up by my least favorite Bond films. Brosnan just happened to be in those too.

@@mrcliff3709 golden eye was the only one that was great

Goldeneye was the best one. Then, it was a fast decline from that point on.

If the movies were still good, people would still see them. It's really as simple as that. Its too bad Razorfist doesn't see this.

​​@@MAGAMANive been told the Batman was good (personally I found it a boring slog that went of an hour longer than it should have and felt its a shittier version of Batman year 1) why didnt it do dark Knight numbers if it was actually a great movie? And well not super hero fatige per say i ignored the amazing spiderman movies completely when they came out because we'd just had the sam rami trilogy and I thought a reboot a few years after spiderman 3 was dumb. By all acounts those films weren't actually that bad either but they still did poorly

@@MAGAMAN Its not that simple, fatigue is real but people forget that once something goes mainstream, all the trend chasers come out and corporations get their tentacles in it causing the oversaturation as everyone wants to get a piece of the pie.

@@vonfaustien3957 only shills say The Batman was great; it was an ok movie that looks great in comparison to the absolute dregs that were its competitors. There has not been a 9-10/10 super hero movie since Infinity War and the entertainment industry using fatigue coincides with the rapid drop off of both the writing for everything after Infinity War as well as the increasingly bad and more commonplace CGI being used as a crutch to “fix it in post”.

It's not incompetence, it's deliberate.

Both

All of the above.

Yes

Their creativity went down the drain ages ago, somewhere between gamergate and 2016

​@@caveatlector2671Beat me to it.

If I could have a super power it would be to talk like razor! Don't get me wrong I'm quick witted but I can't speak at that pace at the same time without sounding like Biden giving a speech whilst getting his daily pudding dose

Was main scream deliberate? If so, nice pun.

When a call girl cost as much as a movie ticket, popcorn and a soda that's a problem.

My problem with everything is that there is no creativity or risk taking. We are getting cheap remakes and nothing new. It´s getting old. I want a good story that hasn´t been told before.

Blade is techno music + vampire killing + one liners. That's all you need.

Eh. Depends on the cut you watch man. In the extended cut, Blade comes off as a conspiracy theorist proven right by the end of the movie. In the director's cut, they removed the several vampire rants he has in the movie.

Cool guy who kills vampires. That's it, that's the movie.

@@Lonovavir it seemed like a long music video, lol

If there's a single lecture longer than "some motherfuckers always tryin' to ice skate uphill," the movie will be a failure.

And people still made tons of money so why shouldn’t they do it?

Niche isnt the problem its the quality that was the problem.

@@fuzztsimmers3415 I am merely quoting razorfist when I say that these failures are not a glitch but a feature. There are consequences to making something try to appeal to the lowest common denominator rather than defiantly being what it is. Chess will never be popular because it has the same rules regardless of the generations it has outlasted and refuses to dumb its rules down to allow idiots to be the best players. People shit on tradition for being retrograde but is thoroughly proven itself in terms of consistency.

Everything that's mainstream was once niche you actual brainlet.

It's less about going mainstream, and more understanding when the trend is over. If Marvel had stopped after Endgame, the superhero fad would be remembered fondly (and profitably). But Disney kept going.

Exactly. It is not **just** superhero fatigue but since they are the most common movies right now, it just seems that way. It is Woke Fatigue.

This.

They're doing it with live action video games and Anime now.

Hell, you can't even be sure of a good movie with a freaking biopic anymore. How the hell do you fk up a movie about Napoleon?

Nope ur wrong people are just sick of bad writing and wokness not super heroes

@@caveatlector2671 🤣👏

I couldn’t stop laughing at you licking Eric July’s arsehole from the moment he had a modicum of success with his comic book franchise in a pathetic attempt to ride the man’s coattails to greatness, Butterbean. Hope you’re ready for the inevitable crash and burn of you and your buddies’ grift thanks to Eric and his equally pathetic tough guy act, as that’s going to dwarf the demise of the Skeptic community from days of yore. 😂

Normies haven't "passed the trend", the movies just went to shit. Normies are the only ones still going to see these movies.

Just like how Disney Channel chased after the tween girls while ignoring the rest of the family.

​@@Launchpad05oh my fucking god... How many... How many Disney channel sitcoms had a tween girl MC in them in the aughts and up? It was fucking insane!

@@MAGAMAN Normie are definitely the only ones who still go to see these films but there are few of them left. Normie are the majority, that's why they chased them so much. And no, normies don't stop watching movies because of low quality, they made a lot of rubbish entertainment possible, normies stop following something if it's no longer popular. The masses follow the masses, what is socially accepted, which is why they tried in every way to deny the collapse as much as possible.

These are not norms. If it was, people would come.

Tabloid shows, reality shows, tween sitcoms, and YA novels/movies are WAY more overexploited than the angry game reviewers on RU-vid.

Only to be topped by the classic "F-U, I was right!" Chair spinning.😂

@@Launchpad05 With Warhammer lore videos becoming a STRONG contender to all of the above.

Video essays or lore explained for anything really. But i don't get to talk since i am one by one of the reasons as a viewer that i support with my watching any of the above. And in the end if enjoy any of these overused themes, what does that makes me?

@@ncrvako I thank MAx Derrat and ghostcharm for getting me into soulsborne lore videos.

I concur. Give someone bad cake. They'll have cake fatigue.

​@@jimbo9305It takes more than one bad cake for someone to lose interest

@@fulcrum2168 Depends on how bad the cake is. I used to think I hated beer, because all I ever tried was crap American beer. I tried some imported stuff, wow it's good.

@@fulcrum2168 One good movie per year. One or two good series at a time and there wouldn’t be fatigue. The comic industry has gone on for decades now, only growing. Political content and poor writing killed it. Over exposure played a roll.

​@J.B.1982 fr the over exposure to the people that never cared about all of the things the genre provided just what they could get out what the genre already did well

Hollywood learning a lesson? Easier for Joe to remember what day he is in

Agreed. The knowledge of when to stop is hard especialy when doing so is more advantagous than going forward. It is far worse these days with all the sequels.

That's what I'm worried about especially since video game adaptations are getting slightly better.

I quit watching after 'Endgame' and finally binge watched for 2 days to catch up. More is better hardly describes what I noticed. Every trick used before in every other movie is now used in each one. Ironman holo interface, Hud, as well as the carved/sculpted/etc. Wall of Exposition to name very few. It was pure overdose.

Video game movies and warhammer are next.

I just don't agree that people are tired of superheroes. Superhero comics have been around for a long time and have a huge range of stories that can be adapted. Stories that people still love and read regularly. Would we really be talking about genre fatigue if DC put as much effort into their live action films as they did Superman vs The Elite? Would the MCU be collapsing if they had embraced the variety offered by characters like Spawn, Jessica Jones, and Daredevil rather than jamming everything into a Taika Waititi formula processed through the woke machine? If a new Batman Arkham game every bit as good as Arkham City came out would people refuse to play it just because they don't want more Batman? And why are superhero manga series like MHA and Demon Slayer absolutely dominating comic sales in the US if people are tired of those kinds of stories? People still love superheroes and their stories when done even moderately well. It's kind of insane to say the genre is dying due to audience fatigue when that same audience is happily consuming the genre either from foreign publishers or by revisiting older shows/movies.

Maybe that was the point of the naming/framing.

​@@MrDj232You hit the fucking nail on the head, now and forever.

Maybe the audience that they made new superhero content for was not a good audience for really cool people that don't give a fuck about colors or races or buzzwords they just go in neutralize evils and leave don't take any credit, kinda why I can't stand this super heros being famous bs

I'm in the same boat. I liked this stuff before it was cool, but I was smart enough not to get burnt out by making cape flicks the sum total of my cinematic diet. They've so thoroughly flooded the market, and the bad stuff has overwhelmed the good 3 to 1 at this point. I've only cared to see a fraction of the shows and movies that came out this year, and I'm not in any hurry to see any of the ones I missed.

You get addicted to playing the slots because your first few pulls were wins, and you keep throwing that lever because your luck has just got to turn around. That's the logic. When it worked, it made them so much money. Like ridiculous amounts of money. If you have tunnel vision for that, you start to think your losses will be worth it if you could only get one more jackpot. It's dumb, but that's what the collective consciousness over there is doing.

Chinese slush fund money

and theater ms animated shorts

2D animation also needs to make A comeback.

Martial Arts, Sword&Sorcery most than ever.

Pulp comics? You mean like James bond? In current era politics? You sure about that?

In this current year? Another disaster waiting to happen but even worse

And if it is good, it will smash at the box office. If its bad, it will crash at the box office.

(thinking you can recast Blade) "Mothafucka, you outta yo damn mind?!"

It make me laugh the hardest! I am still laughing!!

Except no one is watching either. Hhahahahahhahahahahha, Yeah I'm gonna watch The Marvels? Hahahhahahahahahhahahahaha niggah just back away from the screen hahahhahahaha get me a Cutty hahahhahaha I mean WTF

Ooj. Iiiok at okk. Nnb

DC keeps making sick ass animated shit though where heroes actually walk around in dark places and actually aren't only blessed with intergalactic level threats , so that they can actually have a more interesting element than OH NO the world's collapsing again oh my god, its more like wow superman murdered a guy now he's a dictator marvel said yea let's make what ifs 😂

At least superheroes didn't kill each other nearly as brutal as the ghetto chips.

I watched Best In Hell recently. And I remembered it just now, so I guess it made that much of an impression. Movies are being made outside of hollywood, and there are thousands of old movies none of us have or will ever see.

​@@odinsrensen7460I finally watch Citizen Kane recently and was blown away. All the hype I kept hearing about it being the best film of all time turned me off but man I wish I had watched it sooner. It was an excellent film.

=@@Throbingkcoc Um . . . Good for you I guess, i'm not a film snob, so aside from LOTOR, and the occasional old action/monster movie, I don't really care to watch movies in general.

@@spacewolfblackmane19you don’t care to watch movies but miss when they left an impression?

I like how you unalived

My favorite part was when he was like "it's fistin' time" and fisted all over the place!

My favorite part was when you self-deleted, because of this shit-ass meme.

@@CodeeXD Cry more

​@@CodeeXDpeople who comment like you show that they have zero personality and no friends 😂

It was always cliche by the numbers garbage.

Worse, its deliberately pissing on the genera because the people running things are lacking in talent. They can't create, all they can do is tear down.

It was already happening to me _before_ Endgame which is an indicator that it was/is indeed superhero fatigue for me and not just a gut response to woke modern movies. I hear a lot of people saying superhero fatigue isnt real so this is my response to those individuals. Even if Marvel wasnt moving the direction it is I just need a break.

EXACTLY!!! How could you even tell if its superhero fatigue when everything they're putting out in every genera is shit?

Hear hear!

It's neither it's a we didn't read the comics problem it's a writing problem it's a Hollywood is located on a planet where everything is sunshine problem the movies don't even feel like good enough to be like oh man I hope so and so survives, I'm always like when are we losing this character it'd be funny

no the next genre is boom is going to be videogame movies

​@@thekittenthatwantschicken8018that or anime. Could go either way. Im also expecting a vast amount of movies based off girls dolls due to Barbie and Hollywood learning the wrong thing.

They'll remake Gorgo next.

oh god not live action anime movies...@@vonfaustien3957

After so many bad movies I'd think tourists are the only ones still excited about Kaiju movies. Thorias' "positive" review of Godzilla Minus One was that you could remove Godzilla from the movie and it wouldn't change a thing. Seems like the days of giant monsters fighting is just a vague happy memory held onto by audiences and Guillermo del Toro.

Copium

How? The only people who care about fighting for or against “woke” are college students and the terminally online. Cape flicks as a whole are losing mainstream appeal and this would have happened with or without the adding of woke elements. There’s a reason that Oppenheimer and Barbie were the biggest films this year. People want something new and a return to variety in cinema. Fuck superhero films.

When people say "Superhero fatigue" they mean there sick of the same cookie cutter overly CGI PG-13 cape shit where every character is virtually indestructible. Joker not only made money because of the name but because it was a gritty character study about an actual human being. If they made an R-rated Punisher flick in the vein of Death Wish or a Shang-Chi movie like a Bruce Lee film people would love it. The problem was the genre didn't expand itself. Every movie looked and felt the same.

@@LivingGhost1 The people who watched that Punisher movie did love it; but it flopped badly too; as did the previous one (we won't mention the one before that). They were before the MCU began, so perhaps the market is there now (though the moment is passed) but they have tried R-rated Punisher a few times ('89, '04, '08) and it's never yet worked commercially.

because they never end anything for the sake of continuity

Dawg if they did more actually comic shit they'd have a fan base that isn't gonna migrate at least

One of the bad things about the popularity of Tohos godzilla is you just know WB and Marvel gonna be spamming Kaiju content like crazy. And likley 90% will be trash until Kainu fatigue is a thing

@@greenkidd529 Toho did the same thing with Godzilla in the 60's and 70's but at least those movies were entertaining (except for Godzilla's Revenge). I like the Monsterverse, but it definitely suffers with a lot of issues, mainly story and the human characters (with some exceptions) are obnoxious.

They’ve barely changed that’s the problem. You probably would’ve praised them at the beginning of the MCU

Gotta love those twerps who parrot WhAT AbOUt AcROss The SPiDeRVerSe!?! GuARdiANs 3!!?(which actually made less than 1 and 2.that’s NOT good) tHE bAtMAn!?!??

At least we had one show up....

@@jegsdinogod5091 And of course he was the best part of that show.

Martian Manhunter would have flopped just as big, if not bigger, because there are no real aliens living in america to go see it.

​@@MAGAMANTexas is full of aliens

@@MAGAMAN I hate fact that some higher up probably actually thought that.

Comic adaptations often do make a good transfer; as they are essentially screenplays anyway. I think many people (myself included) were that way with Blade, V for Vendetta, Road to Perdition, 300, Constantine, The Crow; I was vaguely aware of the Alien vs Predator comics existing, but the rest were just...films. Many of those (Blade, The Crow, Constantine are arguable) are notably though, not 'superhero'-led stories; meaning there is still a comic adaptation market out there, just as with any source, but the whole 'superhero' thing is done for a while.

Unbreakable is an incredible film! It stands on its own legs even when you remove the superhero stuff, the familial drama and trauma could be its own film. The scene between Bruce Willis and his son confronting him at the kitchen table has better writing and performances than ive seen in any comic book related thing in years. Thats my proble with modern superhero movies. Everybody's honing in on the woke politics right now but im over here unable to ignore the poor filmmaking.

@@sergeantbigmac Totally agree. And that scene is just one of dozens in Unbreakable that are not only great, but absolutely unlike anything else in the entire superhero genre!

"We need to meet up in a place where we are guaranteed to be alone." "Say less, fam"

You're essentially arguing that 'superhero fatigue' is a studio phenomenon rather than an audience phenomenon.

@boobah5643 Pretty much, yeah - and I thought about making that explicit in my earlier post, but decided I'd already blathered long enough for a YT comment. But! When you hear the phrase "superhero fatigue," do your thoughts go to "audiences are bored of cape movies," or to "filmmakers have gotten lazy and uncreative with cape movies"? Because I think the former is the default assumption, but the latter is much more the true state of affairs.

They are desperate for ideas yet they will always play it safe and don't think of anything new out of fear of not being popular.

People came out to see guardians 3, so clearly quality products get people in theaters. Quality products will get audiences.

And even worse - it was Speed 2: cruise control production!

its going to bomb so hard aint nobody want a fucking joker musical let alone one with card carrying narcissist gaga

The Mainstream has certainly demonstrated it exists. You are what I would call a “genre fan” who has unintentionally put yourself in an echo chamber/blind spot. Not saying being a fan is bad, but you might want to talk to people who aren’t into this stuff to determine the health of your interest. But I do agree with people who think that saying it’s a genre fatigue is an excuse for incompetence/malice.

If someone is fatigued over a few movies a year, I don't know what kind of fans they were to begin with.

​@@kaijusoshingeki7214Marvel pumped out 4-5 movies yearly. You know who's the most fatigued of us all? It's the studios. There's no time for writers to think, no time for effects artists to make everything look perfect, choreographers to plan long intricate fighting in single shots, etc. Of course quality will decline

You must be high. There has been nothing buy super heros for 2 decades. But you want MORE??

@@philosopherkingzant2037 I agree with that. They're about quantity over quality. They announce a film and when it's coming out before they've even written a script. It's a bad way to make movies.

Eric “I disagree” July guilty of it too

@@brandonspencer5594 Doesn't surprise me, given his brand of comics. Lol

It's: D - All Of The Above.

No

"I also like donuts, you know. But if ALL you keep feeding me is donuts, I'm going to get sick of them pretty fucking quickly!" - RadicalSoda Woke turds are in every aspect of Hollywood now, but that doesn't change the fact superhero movies have been diluted to the consistency of Bud Light.

People still flock to watch any Spiderman film (live action and animated) and love The Boys series. It is not that the genre died but just the bubble imploded.

Unless Hollywood fires all their LGBT activist writers, there won't be a next big genre. Also, what was the other good video game movie other than Mario? I can't find anything.

Video games, Anime and girls dolls thats the future One piece, Mario and Barbie unleashed on us.

@@MAGAMAN Well, I'm not sure if it's still in theaters, but I'd say Five Nights at Freddy's was a pretty good adaptation. Say what you will about the games, but the movie I think did just fine.

@@MAGAMANthat’s blatant discrimination.they will NEVER do that

Video game movies are my guess. Fnaf, mario, and sonic all did great

Whatever genre they believe will appeal to the kids whom they're trying to program with their intersectional & socialist ideals.

games and anime/manga live actions.

monsters/ man vs nature films. e.g.: godzilla, king kong, day after tomorrow, etc.

I really thought biopic-Drama's were gonna take off with the Queen and Elton John movies

Superheroes existed as demigods originally, the genre is actually ancient.

If it was the genre dying, it would just be superhero movies, but it's not. Almost everything Holywood is putting out is flopping.

It's being killed

I know you probably meant to say "blockbuster", but I think "blackbuster" is funnier.

@@MAGAMAN Top Gun: Maverick, Super Mario Bros., Oppenheimer, Barbie, Smile, Across The Spiderverse, John Wick 4, and Sound of Freedom all say hello.

@@LastSunrise1981 If for no other reason than to play devils advocate, for every good movie Hollywood comes out with, there are multiple flops. Indiana Jones 5, The Little Mermaid, Another Fast and Furious sequel, Most Superhero movies as mentioned, Magic Mike's new sequel, Ruby Gillman: Teenage Kraken, Another Transformers Movie, Haunted Mansion, the list goes on.

For some bizarro reason,superhero fans think they are “different” I don’t get it