SuperMoto vs Dualsport DRZ400! 

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There are a lot more differences to the S and the SM, and also a few that aren't correct. I'm sorry to be that guy, but this video is meant to give advice on the differences. I've had both setups, if you need to swap them, you'll realise what you're in for. The tire size is the width, a percentage of that width as height and rim size. So 120mm, 70% of 120 mm, 17. The front forks are very different and do not have the same compression and rebound rates, especially since the SM forks are adjustable. It is not whether they're USD or conventional, it's what they're designed to do. The other major difference is that the SM fork is shorter, it is not just the wheel as the tire is much taller. It also has a much shorter stroke, so wouldn't do as well off-road. Besides this, there are no gators on the forks, so you get a lot of dirt in the seals, which wear out faster. Rocks can also chip the chrome, cutting the seals and exposing bare metal. The Desert Sled has the same issues. The offset on the triple trees is different as well, where the SM has very little offset (centre of forks are in line with centre of headstock) the S has some more offset to make it more stable on uneven terrain. Low offset gives a much sharper steering feel, which is why racing bikes have the same setup, with a much steeper headstock angle. The SM still has a motocross frame. Axle location makes big difference as well. With the SM it is underneath the fork, so the wheelbase (where the rubber touches the ground) is shorter as well (along with the offset), making it easier to turn. The S has the axle above the bottom on the outside, to both give a longer stroker and adding to the rake and trail, making it more stable. The swingarm is different as well; the kink is further towards the engine, to accommodate the 150 rear, and the chain tensioner is different. The SM uses a block with a bolt and locknut, as well as a hollow rear axle, while the S has two snails with a pin to adjust tension and a solid steel axle with a nut attached. The blocks are more precise and the shaft lower the rotation mass, so it costs less power to rotate, while the snails are fast and easy, with a very strong steel axle. The fixed nut makes maintenance faster as well, which you would do more off on an offroad bike. The SM also has a shorter rear shock to not sit too high in the rear. I parked my SM next to an S and the difference was a few inches at least. This is also a stiffer shock to help with cornering. Sorry for the epistle, but if people come to look for info on the differences on the SM and S, this is pretty much it.

Contrary to what others are saying, I really enjoy your pace of speaking as it feels you are being more deliberate and clear with your argument. Thumbs up for alter hosting!

Tire size: millimeters (120), aspect ratio (sidewall height is 70% of tread width), rim diameter

Been riding dirt bikes since 1975...I now have a DRZ400s and absolutely love it. I ride 60 dirt and 40 street and my smile while I ride is ear to ear.....

I like it! The channel is growing and there's a lot going on and I was skeptical at first I'll admit it. But I'm glad to see the content evolve the way it has!! Great job and I'm looking for to seeing what's next

You are very articulate in your comparison of these Two bikes. Much appreciated.

Keep up the good video I love everything one of them

I'm glad the Yamster has you to help him out Spite. You're a good addition to the Yammie Fammie.

„How to decode motorcycle tyre sidewalls“ by MC Garage...

I could take one of those motorcycles off your hands! XD Also, you dont need to apologize for the lack of the noobs of yam, you're doing great!

I've ridden super sports for 45 years. I love tearing up corners!!! At 61, I thought I would downgrade from my 1000 to a DRZ-SM. I am having a blast! One word...FUN! I ride backroads in rural TN. They are not sweepers, they are tight...and throw in some gravel and constantly changing road surfaces...and you have a great playground for an SM. I find myself riding more often than in years...just for fun. No destination, just of the joy of it. Oh, and I put on some 70/30 tires and go on trails as well. :-) I would consider getting the 18/21 wheels if I had the chance to do a lot of offroading.

Congrats on the new SM. Such a fun bike! I do prefer the dual sports as they can do everything, but sumo’s are the best looking bikes in my opinion. Yours looks great. Shame the person before you didn’t look after it.

Ari Hennig can tell the difference between right side up and upside down forks, the rest of us can't - that is fact

great helmet-cam/talk seg. never seen that format before

I had a drz 400 sm. Really fun bike! The only thing I didn't like about it was gearbox with just 5 gears.

You forgot to mention that the swing arm is also different on the SM. It is the same as the inverted forks, it came from a RM 250. I have the SM, and a braided front brake line makes a huge difference in the brake feel.

Please do more videos on the DRZ400 SuperMoto!

Ofc yammie made the video I was looking for

Would it be terrible to combine the best elements of both the SM & S? Buy an S and add the steel brake line or SM brake setup. And a set of SM wheels, then switch them out along with the sprockets & chain.

Could you make a video about which Sportbikes are the most comfortable to ride? (not having all the weight on the hands while riding) Might be interesting for some folks.

Ay, would you guys consider doing a video on nooblets doing solo road trips (like WA to CA or longer) and how much experience a rider needs before traveling? Much thanks!

Been waiting to to see your girl , looking good

1:22 dont apologize bro. Ur dope

Good video wish you would have ride both , you got street what you got on dirt, i like the drz 400 sm

The question that I have is when you put a smaller tire on the back, should you change your sprocket? To get your top speed back.

Hey yammie. I am definitely a fan of yours. Always watching videos as soon as I get the notifications for them. :) I am in the market for a new bike within the next few months so I have a question. I have been riding a Suzuki burgman 650 for a while and even had a 2006 Honda cbr 600f from 2006-2008 (my ex totaled it), so I was wondering what bike you would suggest for me to get. I am also a big girl so there's that too lol

Had one for trail riding then turned it into a road bike, didn't really like it so now I have a 1990 cbr250rr

That's a sweet mane my guy!

I have the DRZS S and just bought a set of warp9 17s cool so far, like being lower and reminds me of a trail bike from 1980

The rear swing arm is different as well. DR swing arm on the S model - RM swing arm on the SM model. The RM swing arm is a bit more adjustable with respect to chain tension and tire alignment.

Coming from a Hayabusa and road riding background would you recommend the SM ? im more of a road rider than dirt rider, but id like to be able to swap rims and tires when off-road.

wheels at 3:45 its 120mm wide, its 70% of wide tall and 17" in diameter so: 120mm wide , 84mm tall on 17" diameter

I can say from experience the worst off road you'd want to put on your DRZ would be an actual dirt/gravel or grated road, and even then you had sharp rocks that are straight tire killers sometimes. the 400 S would be better since the tires are made to be upright 99% of the ride but the main concern would be having your bike slide out from under you just because of the loose ground. still though it's nice to take your bike down a dirt road every so often, rarely have traffic and the only other thing you have to watch out for besides rocks is the occasional cow and/or feral hog.

Early ❤️❤️ Love your videos 😍

I started riding on a 500 euro Xl600R and a dual sport will give you so much freedom as a beginner. If it falls down no problem usually no damage. And its is fast enough to make me smile after 4 years and owning liters bikes but not so fast you get speeding tickets or death :D. Plus maintenance is so cheaaaap and easy to do on these type of bikes :)

Spite, the second number in a tire size is aspect ratio, not length. It's a percentage of the first number, so a 120/70 17 is 120mm wide and 70% of 120mm, or 84mm (ish) tall from bead to contact patch

I like how people think a DRZ400sm or any other dual sport bike is a beginners bike. In fact, I think a R1, GSX1000 etc are the real beginners bike as most motorbikes noobs are into those overpowered bikes for show and bragging rights more than actual riding. Anyone with decent amount of time riding bikes would know that an experience rider will pick a dual sport over any useless crotch rocket.

Man, I put 21",18" KTM knobbies on my DRZ sm and soften the suspension a bit and it's much better than the DRZ E or S in the dirt, which my mates have. Try it. And aren't the shock, swing arm and forks the same as the RMZ 250 just a heavier spring?

Love the intro music super happy

so the intro song that I cant think of the name, I always "play" this song with my exhaust by hitting the throttle lmfao. please tell me im not alone

"Polaris >> I'll give 'em a half wave" lolz! Great vid Spite! F the key board warriors. We love all of Team Yam!

That classical music in the background reminds me of the auto-docking in Elite Dangerous

Hey that intro song sounds like it’s from “Ghost-in-a-Shell”

omg video becomes so much better at x1.25 speed

Such a good video, but as a criticism you have just cost me money on my Crf 300l rally 😂😂😂

Interesting view on aspect ratio

Just a note, I've got a monster front brake on my yz 250 and so long as you arent an idiot it's not a problem. It's better if you have the skill.

put a rubberband on the brake lever just enough to keep it from moving out of reach

I love the Suzuki DR 400 or 200 are you doing export to India. We don't have here I m a great fan of suzuki. Thanks

Get the SM version and buy a 19” front wheel from Warp 9 for off road riding.

USD or regular, the SM got RM 250 suspension. Good 80/20's or something on that one, or something - maybe Roadtec 01 SE's? - great allround capabilities. Want one. (Need one!)

Clapping out a dual sport is so much fun. They don't die, the good looks do though

I had an 08 SM. Bought a set of dirt wheels for offroad. Two bikes in one.

Where did you find that seat and do you recommend it?

i'll come back and watch this when I need something to put me to sleep.

I believe it's width in mm, sidewall to with ratio in percentage, rim diameter in inches.

Your tied with how much I like yammie, I relate more to you though 🙄

cool video!

couldn't get through the whole lecture. but did he mention the biggest difference is that the sm has proper front forks?

I’m trying to buy a drz but I can’t even find one on any website I try. Any advice?

21/18 on the DRZ. 19in rear is for motocross. 18in rear is for offroad/enduro.

I really want to love the DRZ 400 SM. I really do. Have tried numerous times, but ultimately I just can't. Not when there's KTM's 690 SMC. Yeah the KTM is almost twice the price, but it has enough things over the Suzuki that I would gladly pay that difference. Shame too as I think the 2019 White/Red/Black 400 SM with those gold wheels looks sexy af.

I have a drz400sm and love it 👌

At 5'10" w/o shoes on, I bought the drz400-SM for it's slightly lower seat height over all else. The S was simply too tall for me and I'd say it's not designed for anyone under 6 foot on the street unless you're ok with the potential of accidently dropping it at a stop-light, lol. They make aftermarket SM-size knobbies too! The stock SM tires suck pretty bad in wet grass and soft mud, looses traction and fishtails very easily there but otherwise a blast and I couldnt be more happy with my decision. Yes i'm definately mr. hardhead who is dying to learn how to wheelie too... if I could sleep with it next to me in my bed I would

Hey great video. But you gotta do your research on what tire sizes are. It not mm/mm/inches its mm/%of that/inch.

So would you need to change the brake caliper due to the different rotor?

Would I be better off to buy an sm and convert it to a s? The stock tires on a drz-s are horrible from what I hear anyways? I only go off road 5 times a year anyways

im getting an SM model and buy the dirt wheels separate so when i want to offroad for a long time i swap out the wheels, even tho there ain't even that much offroading to do in the netherlands but its all for shits and giggles anyways

The DRZ400 is not a bike that's absolutely perfect at one particular thing, but it does everything quite well for what it is. It's kind of a " Jack Of All Trades " kinda bike. Looking to do the suspension on mine, and probably the 470 ( 462 cc ) motor since I'm really only lacking the Web cams ( maybe ) / Stroker crank / 1 piece valve's the springs and seats and obviously the rejetted BSR will have to be swapped out to feed it. As it stands right now, 434 BBK CP 12.5 ratio piston, stage 2 HotCams, TT MCCT, E model single layer base gasket ( makes it 13 : 1 ratio ), the 3x3 and JD jetted BSR with a TwinAir foam filter ( I ride both on and off road and have S and SM wheels ) with an RS3 yoshi, Raptor fuel tap, LED everything and with the tail tidy, Corbin seat, Renthal bars with Zeta drop downs and Zeta XC shields with an R6 tube and a fan mod as for current mods. Did one track day ( was a blast ) and alot of mixed up riding ( on and off road ), it's kinda hard to get tired of it but very easy to find trouble 😆

notification squad. i worship all of your videos. i pray that i never become a squid

Yo what's that first bike, looks like my dream bike

Are you kidding me man It would be my dream to have a garage like that

Tire size is in Millimeters/ percentage ( aspect ratio) - inch diameter of rim. Using these numbers you can calculate overall height. Example 140/50-18 140 mm /25.4 = roughly 5.5 inches wide 5.5 inches * 50% = 2.75 inches 5.5 inches times 2 ( rubber on top and bottom) + rim diameter (18") = 23.5 inch tall tire

I think the SM could be fun on the street, but the DS in the dirt is way heavy, and slow too...

Left one is dope.. 😎🥰😋

the rear swing arms are different ,the motard has the flare angle where the edge of the tire is compared to the duel purpose has the flare in the swing arm further back towards the back axle ,how do i know ,mate couldnt get his motard wheel on after changing swing arm due to damage ,took a while to figure it out that the swing arms are different when we put one on top of the other boo yah there it is , and a return swing arm to shop and and get a motard one bingo wheel and tyre perfect ,great bikes with jets and cut up air box and a exhaust .

I put money down on one already, not shipped in yet, got the 2022 Supermoto, I thought it was the bike on the right, alot of videos on RU-vid are of the bike on the right and they call it the super moto. But it does look like a dual sport. I'm so confused now. I'm still happy either way.

What brand & model is the seat on your DRZ400 SM?

what is your favorite gearing for a drz trying to be able to hit 70 mph and not feel like i am going to nuke the motor

what mic are you using in the helmet

I have the drz400s but would love to have the sm model. I want to try riding one

I love spoked tires

Klr 650 vs klx300sm, wondering your opinion yammie

I thought that was a completely different bike not gonna lie. I’d pay money for a parts list on that Sumo. I got a 2015drzsm

You remind me of that jerk of a boss from Office Space " yeah...im going to need those TPS reports...ASAP...So, if you could do that, that’d be great...”

Off road you want upside down forks too but suzuki refuses to change blue prints on the drz-s look at modern mx AND enduro forks

Have both, my off road is the E, that kicks the ass of the SM and S. Fun fun fun .....

I love my drz dual sport.

Who did your seat?

What is the DRZ model called in biscottiland of Europe? was it sold here too ? cant find it anywhere

exact thought on skill tree

Ben Stein does yammy vids now?!?😂😂

0So bro which will run faster a enduro with supermoto wheels or with 18 21 rims equipped with road tires

Bigger gyroscopes have more inherent stability than smaller gyroscopes...this is great off road...slows steering just a bit on road. Braking is far superior than the bigger diam wheels....dependent upon tire..a sportbike tire will suck offroad.

Now I’m regretting selling my dual sport

The fact that I can put the vid on 2x speed and still completely understand you shows your speaking skills. Good job.

I've never heard of supermoto they look extremely fun I want one what's a good begginer bike

This is a question I ask a lot

Could you put Nobbies on this model for off-roading?