In this episode we match Japan's latest supernaked against some of Europe's most impressive rivals. Then, we head to K-World to get stuck in with just about everything Kawasaki!
Absolutely agree , the super naked bikes are the new era of bikes. Even a Harley guy like myself is starting to look hard at a super naked ride to add to the collection. Nice video.
Whack the throttle wide open on the 1290 and go up through the gears with the quickshifter, suddenly you have a revelation about the way V-twin engines COULD function, if companies (such as KTM) put their minds to it.
Exactly my thinking been riding hard core sport bikes over 40 years, I've ordered the 2020 KTM 1290R should be getting it late this week. First time riding sport V-twin, rode many harleys.
@1socalshocker i just purchased the 2020 1290R waiting for delivery end this week. Finally something that i can ride all day in city. Going from a ZX-14 without any electronics to this. It's going take few day's just learning electonics.
Hi all, thanks for the positive comments on the test. If we're honest there are a couple of reasons for the lack of Tuono... First and foremost Aprilia were unable to supply one for us to use. Secondly, we wanted to include bikes in this test that people actually buy. Whilst we can agree that the Tuono does well in lots of online tests, we're yet to see even one being ridden on the road. Still, we'll be getting a Tuono to use sometime next month and will be doing a full review on it to make up for its lack of appearance in this test! Hope you enjoyed the episode - Bike World Team :)
the first thing that came to my mind after a second of seeing the contestants is where is the tuono. i had to pause the video to see the comment, only to see your reply here. thumbs up
First, let me say it's an awesome video you made. My best videos are naked comparisons. But it's not just Tuono lacking. There is also a Ducati Monster 1200 R and if we would want to nit pick we could mention MV Agusta 1090 (very interesting bike). Still, thanks for the effort, enthusiasm and great vibe you shared with us. Thumbs up!
Good thing you left it out. If you had included it, you would have spoken about nothing else than how fast that bike is, how awesome it sounds, how well it handles etc etc etc. Good thing that all the second place bikes gets a little attention for a change.
awesome test and hilarious at the end there, keep up the great work, top gear of the bike world. Your test made me buy the Trumpy Thruxton R...... Its just wonderful :o)
Great review, but for all you Speed Triple haters, I've owned my bike for 4 years now and I'm as happy today as I was the first day I brought it home. It consistently turns heads and once I added a power commander and K&N filter it has more power than I could ever want.
@Wheaten Zoomies Beautiful large "retro-style" single headlight conversion on my 2015 speed triple. Just saying, she looks pretty sweet. Of course I'm biased
Really liked the brake test bit, it wasn't just the distances but the feel you described. Would like to see more of those brake test comparisons more often
Can we get an up to date version of this? I love how they use the argument about liking a bike for not being perfect like how the bmw is very clinical and the ktm is too much bike for most to enjoy long term. Would like to see an update with new spec models
When I first watched this a few years ago I routed for the SDR as I wanted one and disagreed with the decision..then a year later I routed for the s1000r. Now I'm watching it again and I want a speed triple 1050 and I'm glad it made it to the end now! All bikes are good just depends what u fancy right here right now
@@robertoconner4041 They grew on me a lot too, and even more since I've owned it. I love the bike! MT-09 is great too I've heard, I haven't had the chance to ride one yet, just the MT-07 which sounded great with the exhaust it had.
First off thanks for the awesome content! Of course it's quite tough to get the whole spectrum of bikes in the category but maybe there will be a part 2 ;) the one thing the surprised me is the brake test. Having ridden all most of the supernaked, the MT-10 was definitely the one who was feeling like it had sluggish brakes. Where all the other bikes in the most aggressive mode? The ABS setting vary greatly depending on the mode. PS: great control at the drag lunches, theses beasts usually won't keep the front wheel on the ground.
That fly by shot of your friend john is awesome! didn't see it coming! Kudos on the creativity! My gsxs 1000 didnt make the list but still a great video!
Got to love the motorbike press. When John/Superbike magazine did their super naked review, the BMW and KTM blew the triumph away. Now the triumph is apparently the better bike and then up pops a triumph advert. You just can't believe anything you read and watch. Just get yourself a test ride on the bikes you like and make your own mind up. I bought the BMW and it's superb.
I loved the review and the tests and feel in the real world these tests are relevant. I've always felt a well set up Harley is all you really need to learn to ride fast and in some respects this is still true until this bike come along. Your review made me feel this bike is my next bike, basic electronics that work well, great riding position, noise from the engine, price point and the list goes on. The test bike was exactly what's been said and I felt right at home. With the skills I've picked up doing the Stay Upright coarse at Lakeside raceway and the many miles on a Harley this bike feels like the next level of performance and handling on a motorbike I don't have to modify at all. Wheel standing out of corners is a little different to drifting out of corners but I'll get used to that. I'm f3cking excited. I pick up my new MT-10 in all black this week with only two mods, a tidy tail and stone protector grills for the radiator and cooler.
Just picked myself up a '11 S3 1050. pleased by this really. Not the same bike I know, suspension differences, weight etc, but still. Also, John...that helmet...pure yes.
I OWN AN MT10 and the closest i`ve come to riding it is watching RU-vid videos. Hpw sad is that.... That`s life in Norway, winter is harsh BUT bikes are cheaper in winter.
Yamaha is really killing it! They keep sending the other makers scrambling to come up with bikes to compete... They keep outdoing themselves with new and exciting bikes and at good prices! MT-09, MT-07, R1, FJ-09, XSR900, XSR700, MT-10! What's next?
No offense, but I think that title honestly belongs to BMW. BMW has defined the Adventure Touring bike BMW started this 200hp Superbike war BMW Delivered the 160hp Naked along with KTM in 2014. BMW just came in and capitalized on Ducati's Adventure Sport touring line( Multistrada) and now they are making headlines with that along with the Superduke GT. Honda still owns the Japanese market for some god Forsaken reason and BMW still holds the high end European end.. Yamaha is just making competitive bikes, but they are generally late as far as sending people scrambling.
I've recently gotten into naked bikes, after only riding sport/superbikes for the entire time I've been riding bikes on the road. I'm going to be purchasing an Aprilia Tuono V4 R APRC next month if everything goes to plan. Cool test.
Always interesting hearing other people views. I've actually been on an MT10 demo today, had it for 4 hours while my MT09 was being serviced. I thought quite the opposite to BW, it felt unexciting on acceleration, a little heavy in the corners, the brakes lacked bite, and it's very cheap looking up close...truthfully I got bored on it. There's lots to like though, like the price, you do get a lot of bike for £10k, it's comfortable and the suspension did a good job of the UK roads. Thought I was interesting at the beginning how the guy said what a cracking bike the s1000r was, that it had character and basically praised it to high heaven then at the end on the beach agreed that it was clinical, and didn't leave a lasting impression, which contradicted what he said earlier. Another point was that you walk away and don't look back..what and you do with the MT and the Speed...please. Sorry but this felt like an MCN review...which is bullshit. Please don't go down the MCN route.
I went from an older Yamaha SRX6 to a Yamaha MT10 and love it. Soooo Much power its scary , It took me 2 weeks to take it out of touring mode and into sport. I have not touched race mode yet.
Fan fuc***g tastic. Almost given up with MCN these days, since you guys came along. 3..2..1.. BMW :-) But that's just me. MT-10 is a real Peach though, I'd be happy with either!
Like MCN could EVER do a review/comparison this good. They are the most unprofessional professionals around. Most "one man with a camera" "bloke next door" type reviews are better than MCN.
I'd pick the speed triple. Love the sound of the 3cyl, 140hp is more than enough for the street and it looks fabulous. I love the improvements they made on the looks, especially the tank and its in my opinion by far the best looking bike of the bunch.
I couldn't agree more. I traded my street triple in for the KTM , and while its a great bike, it just has too much for the road. I just never liked how it looked or felt on the road. I traded it for the speed S last month and the Triumph feels better on the road, you can explore the throttle more, the engine is 10x smoother, and that 3 cylinder howl is intoxicating. I'd definitely go with the Speed for sure!
Well that's the funny part. I would say... turn everything on, take a passenger and go ride on RAIN mode for 8 hours... I never EVER had any bike of which I could ride 8 hours... stop at a car wash... and went for the local harbor to have a couple of more hours of fun...
Boxer Bikes Bias much? Anyway, they even agreed that the ktm is superior in many aspects, but just isn't worth the much bigger price. Listen to the video and calm your ass down.
Boxer Bikes The problem is that many of us don't have unlimited money. The KTM has some good qualities but overall they are not worth the 4000£ more that it costs. The MT10 and S1000 cost a lot less and offer just slightly less performance, that's why they are better overall. If I had all the money in the world then maybe I would consider the ktm
Agreed , money is important ( i´m not rich ) , i ride a old R1 08 , but i put something like $5000 in aftermarket parts on it , you know what i mean ...?
Boxer Bikes Yes but if you put 5000 pounds of mods on both bikes, the mt10 is still 4000£ cheaper. I'm not saying in the slightest that the ktm is a bad motorcycle, but I see why they picked the mt10 as the winner, because overall, considering price and performance, it's the best bang for your buck.
After riding the Speed Triple, the seating position on the Speed triple is more like a sport bike not a naked bike (pegs are WAY to high on the speed triple and im only 5'11), as where the MT10 is much more up right and comfortable to ride than the Speed Triple. Not sure why they did not mention this in their review.
Andy George yeah has that reputation, but its more about the actual feel and amount of strength you need to apply where it sucks. Stopping power is good.
I've ridden the Super Duke and Speed triple. I currently own a MV dragster RR and would put it against both of these bikes on looks, acceleration, braking and the thrill factor anyday of the week. I will say that the speed is a better all around bike though.
I wonder if the notorious front rotor issue on the 1290 played any part in it's horrible brake test result ? The young bloke looked wobbly as fuck on it though.
1290 was thrown out entirely on the basis of being "too much bike" and the price. While I personally like the bike a lot, that doesn't stop me from calling out these guys as entirely bogus and biased in their conclusions.
I've been on 4 cylinder bikes for the last 15 years. I took a test ride on a Monster 1200 and the Super Duke R. I've sold my last 4 cylinder bike since then hahaha. I'm saving up for a Super Duke R.
The Tripple is an impressive bike, one of my riding buddies has one and it's really given me a lot of reasons to think about a more powerful ride. It seems very consistent, it's main downfall is touring is not very comfortable prospect.
great video always beats MCN coss you show close ups and give more info and can clearly understand what your saying however disappointed you didn't drag the Triumph ,,I own a 11 speed triple and as soon as I can trade it in will be going for a mto10 had that conclusion before I watched the video cheers guys shane uk
