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Supreme Integral with Feynman's Trick 

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We will do the integral of sin(ln(x))/ln(x) from 0 to 1 by using Feynman's Trick (aka differentiation under the integral sign). This is also closely related to the Dirichlet Integral, which is the integral of sin(x)/x from 0 to inf.
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@jlxip
@jlxip 6 лет назад
17:20 "So, this right here is pretty much the answer but what the heck in the world is this?" I'm crying 😂
@SteamPunkLV
@SteamPunkLV 6 лет назад
from now on, I'll write that instead of pi/4 😂
@dijkstra4678
@dijkstra4678 3 года назад
math video: so basically that's the answer. me: ok but what the heck in the world is this?
@JoJoJet100
@JoJoJet100 6 лет назад
I REALLY like it when you do improper integrals. It's so much more satisfying to get an answer that is an actual number instead of a bunch of math functions added together.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
: ) I actually like indefinite integral more tho
@ripjawsquad
@ripjawsquad Год назад
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@atheybengala5720
@atheybengala5720 Год назад
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@microscopicallysmall
@microscopicallysmall 9 месяцев назад
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@ali-zl9ls 8 месяцев назад
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@mortadhaalaa5907
@mortadhaalaa5907 6 лет назад
I did it quite peacefully using feynman's trick with the parametrization: I(t) = sin(t lnx) / lnx I guess I've been watching too much flammable maths vids 😂 awesome video nonetheless 🍫
@hetsmiecht1029
@hetsmiecht1029 4 года назад
I think your solution is more elegant, as it doesn't require complex numbers inside natural logs (which can have infinitely many values).
@euva209
@euva209 3 года назад
Nice! It leads to dI/dt = (1/t) ∫e^(u/t)cos(u)du from -∞ to 0 = 1/(t²+1); After integrating you get I = arctan(t) + C; I(0) =0 = C ; I(1) = π/4
@GauravGupta-by1ml
@GauravGupta-by1ml 3 года назад
Same bro.. And it doesn't involve complex numbers in any way so simple, but a little longer..
@k_wl
@k_wl Год назад
idk how it works, you would have to evaluate it from 0 to 1, you cant have 0 inside the ln tho even if u say t = 0 the integral has a 1/t after solving so can you explain please?
@user-hp2dr5qc8p
@user-hp2dr5qc8p Год назад
@@k_wl I = {0,1}∫ sin(ln x)/ ln x dx F(t) = {0,1}∫ sin(t*ln x) / ln x dx => F'(t) = {0,1}∫ ln x * cos(t*ln x) / ln x dx = {0,1}∫ cos(t*ln x) dx After solving (I spent like 15 minutes and couldn't figure it out tbh, so I just used wolfram) you get: F'(t) = 1 / (t^2 + 1) We see that F(0) = {0,1}∫ sin(0) / ln x dx = {0,1}∫ 0 dx = 0. Therefore: I = F(1) = F(1) - F(0) = {0,1}∫ F'(t) dt = {0,1}∫ 1 / (t^2 + 1) dt = arctan(1) - arctan(0) = π/4
@snejpu2508
@snejpu2508 6 лет назад
U world is not powerful enough, but b world solves a problem. : ) YAY!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
Yup
@hervesergegbeto3352
@hervesergegbeto3352 3 года назад
Good morning sir How to become member ?
@debrajbanerjee9276
@debrajbanerjee9276 6 лет назад
You can more easily do this by substituting ln(x)=-y which will leads to ...... I=∫(sin(y)e^(y))/y dy from 0 to ∞ now breaking sin(y) into taylore series and pulling the sigma notation out from the integral the integral will be a gamma function of (2n)! At last dividing it by (2n+1)! You will get series of arctan(u) with u=1 which immediately says that I=π/4
@fengshengqin6993
@fengshengqin6993 5 лет назад
yeah ! right ! Good!
@ianmoseley9910
@ianmoseley9910 5 лет назад
"more easily" - 😳
@trace8617
@trace8617 5 лет назад
Ian moseley easier as in doesnt require complex analysis and identities such as ln(i)
@BY-sh6gt
@BY-sh6gt 5 лет назад
Anyway how can u write integral sign in the comnent? 😂
@FotisValasiadis
@FotisValasiadis 5 лет назад
ik its a bit too late folks,but i solved it in 5 minutes.Set u=lnx dx=e^u du its now (sinu*e^u)/u,use feynman's method to get rid of u by writing the integral as (sinu*e^(uy))/u and solve.You will end up with a simple sinu*e^(uy).Use the DI method and by the end of the day you end up with a -1 over (y^2+1) so you just know its an inverse tangent.you get that the original is minus inverse tangent plus π/4 so if you replace y=1 you get π/2-π/4=π/4.without any complex numbers having to step in
@Jack_Callcott_AU
@Jack_Callcott_AU 2 года назад
Hey BPRP I really enjoyed that. It is very satisfying when complex maths leads to a simple result.
@ryanhurst5096
@ryanhurst5096 4 года назад
Very creative problem solving process you used on this integral!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
It's 1:54am here. Good night!!!!!!!!!!!!
@CarDealersdotcom
@CarDealersdotcom 6 лет назад
Have a problem Mr D
@yoavcarmel1245
@yoavcarmel1245 6 лет назад
I solved it using I(t)=integral from 0 to 1 of sin(t*lnx)/lnx and got that right, maybe you could please upload a video using this method? If you would like, i can send you the picture of the solution somehow
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
Flammy did that already... like 2 hrs after my upload, lolll
@yoavcarmel1245
@yoavcarmel1245 6 лет назад
blackpenredpen oh lol. Well done to him i guess :) will watch his video soon
@yoavcarmel1245
@yoavcarmel1245 6 лет назад
blackpenredpen no he did it different than me, i didnt use imaginary nums
@weerman44
@weerman44 6 лет назад
Awesome integral! Thanks :D YAY
@mith_jain_here
@mith_jain_here 2 года назад
I was wondering the whole time how can an integral of a real function have a complex answer, but at the end when the answer simplified I was so relieved 😂. Maths is indeed beautiful.
@galgrunfeld9954
@galgrunfeld9954 6 лет назад
Wow, that was so awesome! I haven't learned complex analysis, so I wouldn't think of expanding the scope to Complex numbers, that was clever! And when you zoomed in and I calculated the answer in my head, I was like "PFT, WHAT" and laughed, because the answer was so simple compared to how you solved it. One of the best videos of yours I've watched so far! :D
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
Thank you!!! I am glad that you enjoy it!
@ChefSalad
@ChefSalad 5 лет назад
You don't need complex analysis to learn about complex integration with exponentials. It's usually taught when doing differential equations. The reason is that it's way easier to do nonhomogeneous second order linear DE's using e^(ix) than with sin(x) and cos(x). To do ∫sin(x)dx, for example, you just do Im[∫e^(ix)dx] = Im[1/i*e(ix)] = Im[−i*e^(ix)] = −cos(x). It′s a bit overkill on a regular integral, but when doing nonhomogeneous second order DE′s, it′s a dream compared to the alternative method of undetermined coefficients. If you′re wondering what that looks like, I′ll give an example. Take x′′+2x′+x=sin(t). The characteristic equation is thus p(r)=r^2+2r+1=0, which means r=−1, twice. That′s makes the complementary solutions y₁=e^−t and y₂=t*e^−t. For the particular solution we can complexify the sin(t) as e^(it), thus α=i. We know that the particular solution has the form y*=e^(αt)/p(α), which means y*=e^(it)/(i^2+2i+1)=e^(it)/(2i)=−i/2*e^(it)=1/2*sin(t)−i/2*cos(t). Thus a particular solution is yₚ=−1/2*cos(t) and the whole solution is y=C₁e^−t+C₂te^−t−¹/₂cos(t). Finding the particular solution without using complex exponentials would involve solving a system of three equations or, even worse, a system of two equations with two integrals. This way just requires us to remember a simple rule.
@leif1075
@leif1075 4 года назад
Bit,can,younactually solve this without just knowing those formulas?
@hassanakhtar7874
@hassanakhtar7874 4 года назад
@@leif1075 stop being salty, you are misled because you got high marks in baby level math.
@leif1075
@leif1075 4 года назад
@@hassanakhtar7874 i wasnt being,salty..I,asked an intelligent question...to,see how to actually solve,this.why cant you see that..
@axemenace6637
@axemenace6637 6 лет назад
This integral is very similar to 0 to infinity of sinx/x after the substitution x=e^u and the substitution I(a)=integral from -inf to 0 of e^au(sinu)/u. We want I(1). Feynman's technique solves this for us.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
Yea!
@CornishMiner
@CornishMiner 6 лет назад
Some great techniques used to find a very satisfying answer. So good :)
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
Yay!!
@ayoubfenkouch5992
@ayoubfenkouch5992 6 лет назад
this is why i like you videos , even if you understand the lesson very well you always surprise us with some tricks , but i have a question ( to you and to whoever reads this and can anwer me ) : when to think of such a method ? how to know if taking an integral to the complexe world and B world will give a results ? is there some hints within the integral ?
@ariusmaximilian8291
@ariusmaximilian8291 6 лет назад
Yay! This was so cool!! Thx for putting it up
@Tranbarsjuice
@Tranbarsjuice 6 лет назад
Really cool integral and a very nice explanation
@colinjava8447
@colinjava8447 2 года назад
That's incredible, never seen that before, feynmann was a legend.
@silasrodrigues1446
@silasrodrigues1446 6 лет назад
Oh my Gosh! This was really awesome! Brazilian congrats! #YAY
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
Thanks!!!
@jorgesponja3042
@jorgesponja3042 6 лет назад
#YAY OMG I love how insane integrals ends with simple answers like pi/4 lol
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
yay!
@srpenguinbr
@srpenguinbr 6 лет назад
First, I used u=ln(x) then used the feynman technique with I(t)= int from -inf to 0 of (sin(u)e^ut)/u
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
Yup!!!
@omerangi4695
@omerangi4695 6 лет назад
That was very long and a very beautiful integral.
@TheBlueboyRuhan
@TheBlueboyRuhan 6 лет назад
Good luck jaime for further maths
@renesperb
@renesperb Год назад
A different approach is to set t = ln x . Then you get the Integral of sin t/t*Exp(-t) ,( limits zero and inf.). Setting I[a]= sin t/t *Exp[-a*t] you can use Feynman's trick now to find the result π/4 .
@iOhadRubin
@iOhadRubin 6 лет назад
That was actually pretty cool.
@alanturingtesla
@alanturingtesla 6 лет назад
Yay, I love these 20-minute integral videos!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
Yay!!!
@AmanSingh-rg7hk
@AmanSingh-rg7hk 4 года назад
Again tesla for turing.
@alfredod.cadionjr.7035
@alfredod.cadionjr.7035 4 года назад
Video
@quidam3810
@quidam3810 2 года назад
Great video !!
@varunsahni2128
@varunsahni2128 4 года назад
The general answer would be n*pi + pi/4 where n is integer. Which also state that area of this curve can take variable values
@Linkedblade
@Linkedblade 6 лет назад
That was a wild ride from beginning to end
@thatpersononline
@thatpersononline 2 года назад
It's quite easy with Feynman's rule. I did it with g(t) = int sin(tlnx) dx/lnx evaluated at 0 to 1. Then evaluated g'(t) and complexified it. Pretty easy
@kunalbatra4166
@kunalbatra4166 6 лет назад
loved this one..
@SameerKumar-jf5mi
@SameerKumar-jf5mi 4 года назад
this was fun! but in the end how do you know that log i yields π/2, and not something like 5π/2 ?
@yusufmia
@yusufmia 2 года назад
Hi. Your work is awesome
@qbetech4764
@qbetech4764 5 лет назад
This can be also be done with F(a)= sin(alnx)/lnx with F(1)= I pretty easily. But complex world looks amazing.
@ikaros4425
@ikaros4425 6 лет назад
this is the kind of content I love to see, also why are you up so late???
@The1RandomFool
@The1RandomFool 3 года назад
It's true that the limit as x approaches zero of x^a is undefined if the real part of a is zero. However, the limit becomes 0 if the real part of a is greater than zero. This can be proven by showing the limit as x approaches 0 of | x^a | is 0. Therefore, his step of 0^(1+bi) = 0 is valid.
@The_Professor123
@The_Professor123 6 лет назад
More multivariable calculus videos would be neat 🤙
@gnikola2013
@gnikola2013 6 лет назад
Are there any restrictions for differentiating under the integral sign or can it be done each and every single time?
@SVKODURU2008
@SVKODURU2008 3 года назад
put ln x =-y, then, 0 to inf ∫e^-y siny /y dy= lim s=1 , s to inf ∫1/(s^2 +1) ds = π/2 -π/4 =π/4 , (Laplace)
@charlesnuett6674
@charlesnuett6674 6 лет назад
Hey blackpenredpen, what books or bdf books do you propose when one want to study integration ( I mean calculus in general) to the fullest just like you. So he can Know quite a lot. Pls 🙏🙏🙏
@gagadaddy8713
@gagadaddy8713 6 лет назад
Master Cao, u r way too clever ... Thanks a lot!
@srpenguinbr
@srpenguinbr 6 лет назад
Wolframalpha told me 0^i is undefined. Can you do a video on that and maybe other complex limits?
@marcioamaral7511
@marcioamaral7511 6 лет назад
Great journey !
@Saki630
@Saki630 5 лет назад
What a wonderful first question on my exam.
@General12th
@General12th 6 лет назад
Very nice!
@richtw
@richtw 6 лет назад
Awesome!
@jpradeesh3800
@jpradeesh3800 5 лет назад
If u know laplace transform, then proceed this way Put - ln(X) =t
@abdullahalmosalami2373
@abdullahalmosalami2373 5 лет назад
How does that help? Laplace transform I mean.
@jpradeesh3800
@jpradeesh3800 5 лет назад
@@abdullahalmosalami2373 you will an integral of form f(t) /t for which we have a formula. Then substitute s=1
@wintersummers3085
@wintersummers3085 6 лет назад
Math for its own sake is beautiful. Thanks blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
Winter Summers yay!!!
@-james-8343
@-james-8343 6 лет назад
Hey awesome video, but you spelt the Jamie wrong in the title (you spelt it Jaime). Great video nevertheless, and keep it up!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
-James- thanks!! I just fixed.
@-james-8343
@-james-8343 6 лет назад
blackpenredpen no problem!
@MrCuteguylol
@MrCuteguylol 5 лет назад
@@blackpenredpen jaime lannister?
@EMorgensztern
@EMorgensztern 6 лет назад
can you prove the continuity of y=x^(1/x) pls ?
@mihaipuiu6231
@mihaipuiu6231 Год назад
Beautiful solution!
@user-zo1mk3ek6m
@user-zo1mk3ek6m 4 года назад
This is so perfect
@dimitris892000
@dimitris892000 6 лет назад
very good bprp, i suggest you try the integral from 0 to 2π of e^(cosx)* cos(sin(x)) dx #YAY
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
Hmmm, I can try
@dimosthenisvallis3555
@dimosthenisvallis3555 6 лет назад
That was pretty awesome. Hey, could you tackle this one--> 4(x^2) + x + 1 = ((2x - 1)^(1/2))((x+1)^(1/4)). i was able to prove there r no real solutions. but what about complex solutions. I think this could be an intresting video. Keep up the awesomeness
@kmac5912
@kmac5912 6 лет назад
May you please make a video on how to solve for x=y^2+x^2y y=x^2+y^2x
@rezanasiri7353
@rezanasiri7353 6 лет назад
hello bro, your vids are awesome! i have a question, integrate of 1/(sin^2(x).cos^4(x)) thank you, plz answer this i know this is simple af, but somehow in the world i couldn't figure it out and didn't find a solution for it, thanks, you are awesome!#yay
@jschnei3
@jschnei3 2 года назад
The moment you plugged in b=-1 to solve for C, I slapped the table and shouted "You sneaky sonuvagun, you did it!!" That was an amazing moment
@EHTom
@EHTom 6 лет назад
In math for fun could you do a non elementary integral but add something to it to make it elementary and thus make it solvable like the Gaussian integral? Would be a nice exercise I believe.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Do the integral of e^x*sin(ln x) from x=0 to infinity ?
@howdoi_yt
@howdoi_yt Год назад
4:45 is there a way you can know where exactly to put the 2nd variable? or do you just keep trying to find the correct place?
@jasperh6618
@jasperh6618 6 лет назад
that was one heck of an adventure
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
: )
@hendrixgryspeerdt2085
@hendrixgryspeerdt2085 3 года назад
How do you know to take the principal value of ln(i)? Since there are infinite possible values for ln(i). i(Pi/2 + 2(Pi)n), n is an integer.
@NurHadi-qf9kl
@NurHadi-qf9kl Год назад
Misal ln x=y maka dy=dx/x atau dx= x dy=e^ydy |=|e^y sin y dy= |sin y d(e^y) Lalu integral parsial.
@skeletonrowdie1768
@skeletonrowdie1768 5 лет назад
I can only conclude it converges because at x=0 the integral is 0 (lnx>x for 0 to 1 domain). And finite everywhere else till x=1.
@skeletonrowdie1768
@skeletonrowdie1768 5 лет назад
lol i already watched this video
@bijalshah9113
@bijalshah9113 3 года назад
I loved the way you solved this but I guess my method is easier... You can directly introduce a new variable: sin( 'b' lnx)/lnx, and then proceed with the same method. Finally you'll get: I(b) = arctan(b), where we want b=1, hence we get π/4. I hope that was helpful.
@arolimarcellinus8541
@arolimarcellinus8541 10 месяцев назад
Why suddenly become arctan?? We don't know the definition of arctan though
@attepiltonen6607
@attepiltonen6607 6 лет назад
Nice
@azmath2059
@azmath2059 6 лет назад
Sensational
@spudhead169
@spudhead169 Год назад
ZOMG! That was a ride.
@2thetutions153
@2thetutions153 2 года назад
why we not using laplace properties L[f(x)/x]=integration of phi(x) from o to infinity.
@slahenejjari5334
@slahenejjari5334 2 года назад
hy blackpenredpen this integral will be amazing in a vidieo: integral of (1/cos^n(x)) n natural
@wiwaxiasilver827
@wiwaxiasilver827 3 года назад
There actually is another way in the final step. Using the definition that a+bi = re^(i*theta), with r being sqrt(a^2+b^2) and theta being arctan(b/a), or just the angle that forms on the Cartesian when the points are graphed with the x-axis are real and y-axis as imaginary, we get that ln(1+/-I) = ln(sqrt(2))+/-pi/4 (ln(r) + i*theta by logarithmic product rule and cancellation with e) but because it’s (1/(2i))(ln(1+I) - ln(1-i)), the parts with ln(sqrt(2)) cancel and we get pi/4 ultimately. Meanwhile, I guess this could be a cheat explanation but I think we can consider the 2pi*n of both thetas to mutually cancel in my way of calculation through subtraction.
@aashsyed1277
@aashsyed1277 2 года назад
for some reason i found the integral of sin(x)/x dx from 0 to a , a any constant. i calculated it to be -cos(a)/a +1/a by letting G(t)=integral from 0 to a of sin(xt)/x differentiated, got an easy integral, integrated found the constant , and finally got -cos(a)/a +1/a. please explain what happened.
@dgrandlapinblanc
@dgrandlapinblanc 5 лет назад
Great. Thanks
@shanmugasundaram9688
@shanmugasundaram9688 6 лет назад
The convergence and continuity of the function sin(ln x)/ln x at x=0 need to be discussed.
@williamliamsmith4923
@williamliamsmith4923 5 лет назад
Refer to video about lim(x->0) {sin(ln x)/ln x} = DNE. Can we observe the convergence of this integral to determine lim(x->0) {sin(ln x)/ln x}? I am thinking: If the area under {sin(ln x)/ln x} is finite (for 0
@6612770
@6612770 5 лет назад
Wow, but Phew! I'm exhausted after watching that marathon.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 лет назад
: )
@TheMiningProbe
@TheMiningProbe 6 лет назад
This was an extremely clever method, you have my applause
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 лет назад
Yay!!! Thanks to Jamie tho! : )
@vishruth.n11
@vishruth.n11 5 лет назад
how to integrate the same integral from 0 to 2,3...etc
@user-wu8yq1rb9t
@user-wu8yq1rb9t 2 года назад
*Super Duper Cool* Thank you so
@kutuboxbayzan5967
@kutuboxbayzan5967 5 лет назад
I think more easy way is I (b)=integral sin (blnx)/x 0 to 1 I'(b)=integral cos (blnx) 0 to 1 I' (b)=1/(1+b^2) I (b)=tan^-1 (b)+c And I (0)=0 =》c=0 I (b)=tan^-1 (b) I (1)=pi/4
@ethanchandler3934
@ethanchandler3934 3 года назад
If you use other values of ln(i), what would this mean intuitively? I believe if we add 2pi, it ends up being complex. What do complex values of integrals mean? Is this the area of the function but on a different slice of the plane?
@davidepeccioli4431
@davidepeccioli4431 2 года назад
I may be wrong, but I assume that the ln function still refers to the inverse of the e^x function, knowing that e^(iπ)+1=0 (Euler identity)
@sirmac6726
@sirmac6726 6 лет назад
Aircraft trayectory: y = k / x k = 1 sqr km from: x1 = 0.5 km (y1 = 2 km) to: x2 = 2 km (y2 = 0.5 km) Velocity: V = const = 1000 km/h Max acceleration recommended a = 4 g a) Is the aircraft in danger? b) t=? time from x1 to x2.
@MrBoubource
@MrBoubource 6 лет назад
That supreme jacket tho
@jimmylu7954
@jimmylu7954 6 лет назад
Satisfying
@RozarSmacco
@RozarSmacco 3 года назад
Euler evaluated this integral centuries ago by focusing on sin(ln(x)) first expanding it into an infinite series of sin(y) ie y-y^3/3!+y^5/5!-.......then you substitute y=ln(x)....ln(x) can be factored out and cancelled with the ln(x) in the denominator. Then it’s a simple ln(x) to a power evaluated term wise by Bernoulli first. Then you get the Leibniz series. Pi/4. Simples.
@user-nb6zu3rk4f
@user-nb6zu3rk4f 5 лет назад
19:10 How did WolframAlpha find the integral?
@user-jq6zr1dy1r
@user-jq6zr1dy1r 6 лет назад
Thats beautiful
@Nickesponja
@Nickesponja 5 лет назад
But isn't ln(i)=iπ/2+2kπ for integer k? But this integral clearly cannot have more than one answer. Am I missing something?
@Darkev77
@Darkev77 3 года назад
Let me know if you the answer
@crysiswar7632
@crysiswar7632 3 года назад
Because x is between 0 and 1
@alegian7934
@alegian7934 6 лет назад
Really cool integral. Can someone please explain why we use lni=πi/2 and not any of the other values?
@alexanderpanov2326
@alexanderpanov2326 Год назад
Ln e^i•п/2=п/2•i•lne= п/2•i
@TonyStark-30001
@TonyStark-30001 3 года назад
Hello blackpenredpen plz solve the MIT intgration bee Question plz sir
@nordgothica
@nordgothica 6 лет назад
Where does 3^t.ln(3) come from? Don't you just have the exponent times whatever is in the power differentiated? So you'd have 3^t.(1) = 3^t.
@razielkeren6480
@razielkeren6480 6 лет назад
why not uosing u substituting right away ? strat whit u=lnx and then the same method but no need for complex numbers. the Integrand will be (e^bu*sinu)/u
@richardaimemagambo8017
@richardaimemagambo8017 3 года назад
thanks, but I think you may also solve without use of sqrt-1. Isn't it?
@jimnewton4534
@jimnewton4534 4 года назад
One thing that I don't understand about this derivation is: after you introduced b, you had x^(bi)-x^i in the numerator. Then you took the derivative and the x^i went away. HOWEVER any second term not involving b would have also gone away. So if you had started with any x^(bi) - f(x) would you have still gotten the same answer? Is that troublesome?
@jimnewton4534
@jimnewton4534 4 года назад
I suppose the answer is hidden somewhere in finding the "constant" C, which is not really a constant, but rather is a function of x, right? Perhaps that is some subtlety which needs to be discussed, that C is not a constant, but is only constant with respect to b?
@kshitijarora382
@kshitijarora382 6 лет назад
Please solve for x in x= tan^-1(i)
@Mathmagician73
@Mathmagician73 5 лет назад
Great sir 😁😁😁😁👌👌👌👌😳😳u r doing very great work but i have another method to solve this integral can i share u?
@MarcLisevich
@MarcLisevich 2 года назад
Thanks!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 2 года назад
Thank you, too.
@sy-py
@sy-py 4 года назад
I solved it without complex number. I just used a Feynman's Trick to integrate sin(alnx)/lnx. For a=0 we get I(0)=0. I(1) is out integral in question. Now, I'(a)=integral of cos(alnx)dx from 0 to 1 which is 1/(a^2+1) (check for yourselves!)
@EAtheatreguy
@EAtheatreguy 3 года назад
I did this integral without bringing in complex numbers at all, quick u-sub u=lnx turns it into int(e^(u)sin(u)/u)du from negative infinity to 0, parametrize with I(b) = (e^(bu)sin(u)/u)du from negative infinity to 0, proceed. I got the wrong answer a few times because when solving for the constant at the end, I let b go to negative infinity instead of positive infinity, which is wrong because u is always negative, so letting b go to negative infinity actually causes divergence.
@joryjones6808
@joryjones6808 5 лет назад
Now I’d buy an expensive t-shirt with that on it.
@GreenMeansGOF
@GreenMeansGOF 6 лет назад
Sooooo.... who knows the restriction for b? I understand series convergence but I dont think im familiar with integral convergence.
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