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Surely a Sudoku Needs More Given Digits than This? 

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@debabrataroy3081
@debabrataroy3081 3 месяца назад
Hey, Debabrata here. Apparently I picked the worst time to step away from RU-vid. The first pronunciation of my name is close enough (that's the one that you continue to use later as well). Surprisingly I didn't have to use a computer to create this. I just put in 3 or 4 digits and kept going till I hit an ambiguity, then I'd make a choice and proceed from there. Once I had the first grid I just went back and kept the minimum number of hints I could find that made the grid solvable. It was a very nice experience construction this. I am working on more more puzzle that will hopefully be a little more difficult to solve (but it's a little more difficult to construct as well, so might need to do some programming). In any case I hope this wasn't too easy. I am glad a lot of you guys liked this. I'll keep at it. This gives me a tremendous amount of encouragement. It was great reading all the comments. Thanks a lot, Mark, for solving this puzzle! Edit: I should also mention the first 3 or 4 digits I started placing really determined the way the puzzle would flow, so I did have to do a lot of trail and error around the placements. I kept getting nearly full grids that would suddenly break due to some inconsistency and I'd have to go back and figure out how to change the initial set of digits so I could fix things. So a lot of trail and error but fun none the less.
@srwapo
@srwapo 4 месяца назад
18:08, took me about 5 minutes trying to see how to start before rereading the rules and being reminded that the digits have to be 3 apart, not just 2! The digits in the center of boxes are surprisingly powerful with that rule.
@riluna3695
@riluna3695 4 месяца назад
13:38 Man, this is a surprisingly strong ruleset. Places that look like they couldn't possibly be the next place to go just _crumbled_ when you took a closer look. That was pretty dang fun :D
@bertbergers9171
@bertbergers9171 3 месяца назад
I love how you aknowlage that still no-one should say that all has been discovered on sudoku variants! Finished in 32 minutes, found a pattern, but couldn't start proving it to myself, so i just plodded through. thanks for puzzle and video!
@MarkBennet10001
@MarkBennet10001 4 месяца назад
This one is doubly roped (horizontal and vertical). Without the circles, row 1 and row 3 can be swapped as can row 7 and row 9.
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 4 месяца назад
So, only 4 solutions without circles? Ah, no, you also mentioned the columns. So 16. Interesting.
@zincfive
@zincfive 3 месяца назад
@@Paolo_De_Leva Interesting. I'm curious if this ruleset has legs to create lots of puzzles. Does what you are saying mean that there would only limited grids that could support this ruleset, they would all have to have lots of roping, and would all solve similarly?
@isidornimages
@isidornimages 4 месяца назад
Took me 41 minutes as I kept missing obvious things, but I enjoyed it. Clever setting. Funny thing, I didn't notice the roping until I watched the video and Mark pointed it out.
@AlbieStarr
@AlbieStarr 4 месяца назад
17:52 for me. First time I solved a puzzle that was actually approachable, and before watching the video! Amazing puzzle, had a blast
@Ramhams1337
@Ramhams1337 4 месяца назад
same. never really had the time to ever go in to the insane logic needed for some of the puzzles. but this one was actually very approachable
@zincfive
@zincfive 3 месяца назад
@@Ramhams1337 I like this sort of puzzle. I tend to find pencil marking satisfying, enjoy puzzles that can be brute-forced, this is right up my alley. Definitely approachable
@tsjbb
@tsjbb 4 месяца назад
The passion and enjoyment you show is really infectious. I have been watching you on and off for years and always am happy to watch you solve a puzzle.
@emilywilliams3237
@emilywilliams3237 4 месяца назад
Totally fun and quasi-miraculous. It is easy to forget how stunning this kind of puzzle is when we see so many with consecutive constraints in operation. Think of what this would be like if it were the first one we had seen - we would be gobsmacked. Thanks, Mark, for yet another fun puzzle with a clever ruleset that was not all that hard. I loved the puzzle and the video. Congratulations to Debabrata on the debut on the channel, as well!
@debabrataroy3081
@debabrataroy3081 3 месяца назад
Thanks a lot! I'll try to make them more difficult. :)
@emilywilliams3237
@emilywilliams3237 3 месяца назад
@@debabrataroy3081 This was lovely without being too difficult - nearly perfect, I think!
@TheBeginningGuitar
@TheBeginningGuitar 4 месяца назад
18:31 for me. That was fun and very straight forward once you finish wrapping your mind around the rule.
@IanMcGarrett
@IanMcGarrett 4 месяца назад
The head wrapping kept breaking me. A brief nap to clear my head and it all just flowed.
@Timlagor
@Timlagor 4 месяца назад
I prevailed through excessive pencilmarking -probably more than even I needed
@PunaMutsike
@PunaMutsike 4 месяца назад
I feel you! I thought i knew enough about sudoku until i stumbled across your channel ! 😂
@glum_hippo
@glum_hippo 4 месяца назад
Thank you for the sound collage at the end, Mark! Beautiful, almost Charles Ives-ian in its bold contrariness
@emilywilliams3237
@emilywilliams3237 4 месяца назад
Charles Ives is exactly what I thought!
@osirusbrisbane2305
@osirusbrisbane2305 3 месяца назад
Delightful puzzle! One of my favorites in a while.
@adamdobrowolski2510
@adamdobrowolski2510 4 месяца назад
Solve time is a robust 12:13 for me. It can PROBABLY be a sub-10 puzzle for those who don't need many markings to keep track of digits, as this is definitely an approachable puzzle. Quick, relatively easy and fun... the type of sudoku I can finish off my night on a very positive note while relaxing my mind.
@mudscuffer
@mudscuffer 4 месяца назад
17:16 for me. Lovely puzzle, loved the ruleset.
@drawsgaming7094
@drawsgaming7094 4 месяца назад
18:27 Cool constraint!
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 4 месяца назад
11:00 the ENTIRE puzzle is roped, in both directions
@tmountjr
@tmountjr 2 месяца назад
14:32 I noticed the central axes were roped and that some of my pencil marks on the outer squares looked like they _could_ rope, and so I took a gamble that they were...though I still have to look at it more closely to understand _why_ they are actually roped.
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 2 месяца назад
@@tmountjr well, if you look box 2 at that time stamp, it is fully specified, and there are a couple of other cells where the candidates can be reduced. as to WHY the roping is fully forced, i suspect that is the primary point of this puzzle, and the SETTER realized it.
@frankjiang1857
@frankjiang1857 4 месяца назад
Finished in 11:18. Pretty straightforward and approachable sudoku, if you just list out the possibilities of what each digit can be next to. Fun puzzle!
@chocolateboy300
@chocolateboy300 4 месяца назад
I finished in 17:58 minutes. It's wild how restrictive this ruleset is to solve. It felt exactly like when I first solved the Miracle Sudoku back when. Really fun and surprisingly intuitive. Great Puzzle!
@ericobarrera6580
@ericobarrera6580 4 месяца назад
16:53 for me, very nice puzzle. really liked it, haven't done one of these in a minute.
@blargo
@blargo 4 месяца назад
I noticed the roping in both directions fairly quickly, but wasn't sure that could be relied upon to speed up the fill. I assume there's some mathematical proof that this "diff by at least 3" rule leads to the roping?
@jdyerjdyer
@jdyerjdyer 3 месяца назад
Super easy at 22 minutes! I love these shorter ones!
@mussyhall
@mussyhall 4 месяца назад
Love this. I had 20.15 minutes of pure fun.
@sampathkumar-ej7xl
@sampathkumar-ej7xl 4 месяца назад
A nice debut. Closer to the approachable variety. And Mark your first attempt at the pronunciation of the name was pretty good.
@thomasreuter1614
@thomasreuter1614 4 месяца назад
Finished 12:55 really approachable and fun!
@praematura
@praematura 4 месяца назад
Slow start for me, but it started moving faster as I filled more of the grid in, loved the full roping going on! Finished in 15:37 (conflict checker off), could have been a bit faster, but oh well! Many thanks to Debabrata for an amazing puzzle!
@debabrataroy3081
@debabrataroy3081 3 месяца назад
Thanks a lot! I am glad you enjoyed it!
@carter1154
@carter1154 4 месяца назад
The most satisfying puzzle I’ve seen
@phoenixaki3458
@phoenixaki3458 4 месяца назад
19:23 for me, I had all of rows 4 5 and 6 filled in and bits of boxes 2 and 8 and had center marked the entire rest of the grid stuck. Wasn't until I applied the ruleset a bit more cleverly to reduce some center marks that I found a few things that cracked the rest of it open smoothly
@DNPaterson
@DNPaterson 4 месяца назад
Finished in 33:23 (not bad for me) and the last digit was the "3 in the corner"! 😆 Very satisfying.
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 4 месяца назад
7:15 strange that mark did not START with 3, which is the MOST constrained digit
@inspiringsand123
@inspiringsand123 4 месяца назад
Rules: 01:26 Let's Get Cracking: 04:57 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! Three In the Corner: 2x (18:51) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! By Sudoku: 4x (12:33, 13:38, 13:48, 18:07) Pencil Mark/mark: 4x (05:54, 06:15, 09:55, 17:03) Fascinating: 3x (04:19, 08:07, 08:37) In Fact: 3x (02:38, 06:59, 08:23) Missing Something: 2x (10:14, 15:33) Surely: 2x (12:43, 17:35) Obviously: 2x (06:39, 11:01) Weird: 2x (04:37, 09:07) Sorry: 1x (04:22) Clever: 1x (16:45) Lovely: 1x (16:43) Beautiful: 1x (18:59) First Digit: 1x (05:58) Astonishing: 1x (04:01) Approachable: 1x (09:39) Hang On: 1x (10:47) Box Thingy: 1x (08:26) Intriguing: 1x (19:01) Ah: 1x (16:01) Unique: 1x (13:20) Most popular number(>9) and digit this video: Thirteen, Fourteen, Forty Nine, Eighty Four (2 mentions) Three (48 mentions) Antithesis Battles: Low (2) - High (0) Odd (2) - Even (1) Row (5) - Column (3) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!
@joshshowalter4715
@joshshowalter4715 4 месяца назад
How in the world did you get all this information when the video has only been out for 10 minutes???
@MeriaDuck
@MeriaDuck 4 месяца назад
Automated transcript analysis
@zincfive
@zincfive 3 месяца назад
Perfect blown opportunity for my fave : "Play Gooseberry." I did the puzzle then watched the solve, spent the whole thing thinking: SAY IT! SAY IT!
@benjaminrealy5661
@benjaminrealy5661 4 месяца назад
16:06. Was surprised how easily the logic flowed
@Gonzalo_Garcia_
@Gonzalo_Garcia_ 4 месяца назад
7:13 for me. Nice puzzle!!
@boydegg
@boydegg 4 месяца назад
12:47 .... it was really fun to solve. The orthogonal restraint is powerful!
@davidh.4944
@davidh.4944 4 месяца назад
27:40@#8349. Put a few pencil marks in, then eliminate ones that can't go together, and you have a relatively simple solve. The obvious roping didn't hurt either.
@semiclassical7620
@semiclassical7620 4 месяца назад
11 minutes for me, which feels as miraculous as this puzzle
@debrabowen4276
@debrabowen4276 4 месяца назад
Love the existential intro!
@piarittersporn
@piarittersporn 4 месяца назад
Beautiful and quite easy puzzle.
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 4 месяца назад
Slightly kicking myself that I didn't think to fully pencilmark boxes 2, 4 and 6 at the start, what with the central digits ruling four digits out of four orthogonal cell. Instead I concentrated solely on row 5 and found a 689 triple in the cells that neighboured either of the given 3s. Asking where 6 went in box 3, after getting the 7,8 (around 13:35), was my way forward from there.
@psiphiorg
@psiphiorg 3 месяца назад
What a cool puzzle, with a nice simple ruleset. My time today was 9:43, solver number 11639.
@richardglover314
@richardglover314 4 месяца назад
What a lovely puzzle to start the day. Thank you.
@Sam_on_YouTube
@Sam_on_YouTube 4 месяца назад
Solved in 9:08. Spotting that the roping was necessary took a few minutes. Once the middle 3 boxes were done, the whole thing came very fast.
@michaurbanski5961
@michaurbanski5961 4 месяца назад
Debabrata is an Indian name :)
@robsreality
@robsreality 4 месяца назад
18:19, fun puzzle, thank you!
@gregorysantos7624
@gregorysantos7624 3 месяца назад
Very fun solve. 17:56
@brianarsuaga5008
@brianarsuaga5008 4 месяца назад
38:05 for me. Kind of dismal, but even though I had figured out that roping would be happening, I just couldn't figure out how to prove it, so I had to brute force my way through it.
@anaayoung9142
@anaayoung9142 4 месяца назад
It was very intuitive for me, did it in 10:26! Super fun and fast to solve. Before I started to watch this channel the only sudoku that I did was the normal paper one. And there we had just a few rules that aren't standard. But now I see many lines and I already know the rule and many times how to approach the sudoku. But I still can't understand how they create such amazing sudokus!! 🤔
@David_K_Booth
@David_K_Booth 4 месяца назад
Interesting rule set, and a nice approachable puzzle - I would recommend it to anyone starting out with variant sudoku.
@agoristtaxadvice
@agoristtaxadvice 4 месяца назад
6:59! A fun puzzle
@madeleine5660
@madeleine5660 4 месяца назад
I finished in 28:43! I haven’t really played these before- normally, I just watch after I get frustrated- but this was pretty fun!
@titusadduxas
@titusadduxas 4 месяца назад
29:26 - Happy enough with that.
@Kirbyfan87827
@Kirbyfan87827 4 месяца назад
Finished in 15:20. Fine puzzle, very approachable!
@Djeyede
@Djeyede 4 месяца назад
25:08, such a great puzzle. very clean.
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 4 месяца назад
_"...it's a very interesting rule and a very sparsely populated grid and I am _*_very intrigued_*_ by this"_ (Mark @0:39) Me too.
@MarushiaDark316
@MarushiaDark316 4 месяца назад
Interesting consequence is that the roping groups the digits by their modulo 3 sets.
@irc_ninja6906
@irc_ninja6906 4 месяца назад
29:03 for me. Very nice puzzle !!!
@eveengineer4147
@eveengineer4147 4 месяца назад
At 13:22, I'm jealous at how quick you found this triple, I spent at least 15minutes waffling around the grid, before finally looking into column 7 and seeing this, although I was very glad to find it when i did because the entire puzzle solved right after.
@enchanter1520
@enchanter1520 4 месяца назад
You don't actually need to find that triple to progress, I know because I didn't find it. If you look at the row 3, you either have 7-1-4 or 6-9-3 in box 2. 7-1-4 option breaks the odd cell since it can only be 1 or 7. It flows easy afterwards.
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 4 месяца назад
There's also the 1,3 pencilmark in r2c7. Neither of those options allow r3c7 to be a 1.
@Tara_Li
@Tara_Li 4 месяца назад
It’s kind of amazing how much information is hidden in these extra rulesets. Is there some way to quantify it?
@NoobixCube
@NoobixCube 4 месяца назад
I was a bit slow at this puzzle, 32:45, I think because I got lost in a boondoggle in the wrong part of the puzzle. When I looked at the right part of the puzzle it folded like a paper cup.
@MattYDdraig
@MattYDdraig 4 месяца назад
12:37 Fun and elegantly sparse.
@darleneofthetallpines5742
@darleneofthetallpines5742 4 месяца назад
That was delightful!
@57thorns
@57thorns 4 месяца назад
15 minutes for me on this one, kind of insane that this is now considered an easy puzzle.
@Paulo51297
@Paulo51297 4 месяца назад
16:35 for me. Very enjoyable puzzle
@MarkWiseTechno
@MarkWiseTechno 4 месяца назад
23:13 for me today. Nice puzzle!
@Aliessil
@Aliessil 4 месяца назад
Finished in 17:32 and once again completely failed to notice the roping until watching the video afterwards
@darthrainbows
@darthrainbows 4 месяца назад
Nice one, solved in 15:49.
@AlMcpherson79
@AlMcpherson79 4 месяца назад
thing is, get the very first solve chain "fork" wrong and it'll be an hour because damn, I started with the position of a 1 in the right-middle box - (starting with 1 in c7r4 ...) ... took me an HOUR of constant back and forth (thank god for ctrl+z, also I always spend two minutes filling in pencil marks lol) then in the end it was another 25minutes (after a restart lol because I'd exhausted all solving chains with 1 in c7r4) .
@annek3296
@annek3296 4 месяца назад
Interesting & fun! I'm going to suggest that such constraints (where orthogonally-connected cells be at least K apart) be called "Cold-Shoulder Constraints" (of order K). Question: for which K do sudokus exist which satisfy cold-shoulder constraints of order K? I'm going to conjecture that K can only be 1, 2, 3 and maybe 4. Another question: do there exist CSC-order 3 sudokus that don't involve roping?
@xjayex
@xjayex 4 месяца назад
17:40 "5 is in one of those 2 cells.." 5 on the right of the cell: "am i a joke to you?"
@robynrox
@robynrox 3 месяца назад
14m37 for me! Thanks Debabrata!
@debabrataroy3081
@debabrataroy3081 3 месяца назад
Thanks a lot! I am glad you enjoyed it!
@bait6652
@bait6652 4 месяца назад
Fun fastpace...2 sets row-completed H-Dominos Wonder if this could be solved w fewer info given the play of 5 46 and 37
@herberturururu
@herberturururu 4 месяца назад
13:51 for me. A fun and simple one
@林老師-i5d
@林老師-i5d 4 месяца назад
20:24 for me nice puzzle
@aaronw2582
@aaronw2582 4 месяца назад
My solve ended with a 3 in the corner. Is the solve path tight enough that everyone will finish with the confetti finish? Seems like it was just a happy coincidence but can setters force something like this?
@angec9908
@angec9908 4 месяца назад
I can’t believe I’m watching Mark not follow thru with logic. He says the 3 in box 5 eliminates the possible 5 next to it but doesn’t do the same with the 3 in box 4 which would give him the 5 in that box. It’s very un-Mark of him 😂
@MesaperProductions
@MesaperProductions 4 месяца назад
15:42 #2298 Thanks for bring back in puzzles I feel like I can actually solve! 🤣
@jinkela7295
@jinkela7295 4 месяца назад
Why in this puzzle it ropes everywhere and horizontal ropes are only comprised of the same mod 3 set, i.e. 147 258 or 369
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 4 месяца назад
i just found "the strangest naked single" waiting for mark to say that now
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 4 месяца назад
the 6 in box 9
@whelmking6497
@whelmking6497 4 месяца назад
Short and sweet. 16:05.
@dustanloot
@dustanloot 4 месяца назад
I paused the video and was able to finish in 11:19 with a couple errors. In the last 3 numbers in a box every time
@ifazer8akathedoctor275
@ifazer8akathedoctor275 4 месяца назад
this might be easier than regular sudoku
@phyphor
@phyphor 4 месяца назад
A wonderful solve, unfortunately the outro was a little discordant as it seemed to be both the intro and the outro simultaneously.
@Ardalambdion
@Ardalambdion 4 месяца назад
Do you notice the roping effect?
@LednacekZ
@LednacekZ 4 месяца назад
8:19 for me. should have been faster, but i am a slow typist.
@renevuurwalt368
@renevuurwalt368 4 месяца назад
When he did the double digit i was losing my mind untill he finally solved it
@susanne5803
@susanne5803 4 месяца назад
00:29:13 🦕🦕🦕🦖
@RecreationallyCynical
@RecreationallyCynical 4 месяца назад
20:48 for me
@themuffin437
@themuffin437 4 месяца назад
13:37 for me
@atornblad
@atornblad 4 месяца назад
9:11 "2 there". Puts a 3. 😨😨
@atornblad
@atornblad 4 месяца назад
10:48 "Oh hang on!" 👍👍
@AndreAy1975
@AndreAy1975 4 месяца назад
Solved it without any help.
@theredstoneengineer6934
@theredstoneengineer6934 4 месяца назад
19:44 for me
@khalidmagouani1952
@khalidmagouani1952 2 месяца назад
done
@muskyoxes
@muskyoxes 3 месяца назад
A gray circle contains an odd number. Regarding the other gray circle, who knows?
@TurquoizeGoldscraper
@TurquoizeGoldscraper 4 месяца назад
18:37 for me.
@bruceh8043
@bruceh8043 4 месяца назад
26:39 for me and solver #3111.
@thomasstuder1624
@thomasstuder1624 4 месяца назад
A bit mechanical for my taste.
@Pritchie45
@Pritchie45 4 месяца назад
17 minutes
@robertcousins2274
@robertcousins2274 4 месяца назад
20:56 for me
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