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Surron Ultra Bee vs. "REAL" Dirtbikes 

zekd
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Surron Ultra Bee on the Tahuya State Forest OHV trails In Belfair, Washington. Endless amounts of single track weave through the woods. Nothing too technical, mostly fast flowly single track. Can Electric Dirtbikes keep up with gas ones?
Ride Report: 18.9mi with 11% battery remaining
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@itsonlyjeff
@itsonlyjeff 5 месяцев назад
Yeah I've turned all of the regen off as well... rides kinda like a 2t now. I get about 18-20 miles on flowy single track like this but that is in 32 degree weather and with a few big climbs. You should cut those trees lower to the ground so you dont leave spikes ;)
@TwoBears036
@TwoBears036 5 месяцев назад
Another great video Zekd!!! Glad I was able to enjoy the ride with you. Got to do it again soon.
@schreddersworld1050
@schreddersworld1050 5 месяцев назад
Great riding and great commentary! I also just got a pair of lowered pegs and am in the process of painting them. I am surprised at your range as I can do 25 -30 pretty easily in sport mode. Did you put on a roller chain yet? I was running a 53 tooth sprocket and had my regens at 5. I just switched to a 54 and a primary chain and went from 2 throttle setting back to one. We'll see what the range is now. I also went to 3 on the engine regen with the 54. Glad to see that you love your Ultra like I do!
@blakewidman2523
@blakewidman2523 Месяц назад
You inspired me to get an ultra bee. I’m loving it! But I have noticed the awkward standing position on a completely stock ultra bee. Love the content man keep it up
@Mitmandoo
@Mitmandoo 5 месяцев назад
Cool Video, keep it up, wish I had trails like this where I live! Love my Ultra none the less!
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
Appreciate it! Yeah, we are pretty fortunate with the public trail systems we have up here.
@mouss9918
@mouss9918 5 месяцев назад
really good vids man i normally find my selft clicking off dirt bike vids despite loving the sport but this one had me good luck
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
Damn, thanks man! I appreciate it!
@Isamanuisamanu
@Isamanuisamanu 5 месяцев назад
Greetings from Belgium. After 1 year of talaria Sting, I receive my Son-ron Ultra bee tomorrow... I’m a little bit excited... 😛
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
That is awesome! Enjoy!
@trail.squatch
@trail.squatch 5 месяцев назад
So sick! Can’t wait to ride together Zekd!
@PirateOnYoutube
@PirateOnYoutube 5 месяцев назад
U re doing decent videos, amazing video quality and all the time action 🍕🍻
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
Thanks! I appreciate you watching!
@norcoman876
@norcoman876 5 месяцев назад
great riding video and beautiful trails, just a suggestion when cutting the trees you should cut them at ground level because you are making what some call "pungees" that if someone were to fall on them they could be stabbed by it. Cheers and keep up the great riding!
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
Great advice, i actually went back after this video was posted and cleaned it up. Another viewer also suggested it. Appreciate you watching!
@Slachets
@Slachets 4 месяца назад
Электро брат сделай видео где ты всю поездку будешь ехать в эко режиме не переключая его, в смешанной местности по асфальту и бездорожью, начина со 100 процентов заканчивая как минимум 5. вот такой скажем тебе вызов бросили, надеюсь справишься и снимешь это видео, спасибо большое тебе за ранее если снимешь ролик в таком формате)
@ivanjohnson7883
@ivanjohnson7883 5 месяцев назад
Great video dawg keep it up I’m watching 🫡🤣
@FlowAerials
@FlowAerials 5 месяцев назад
At 2:44 you mentioned the throttle sensitivity setting in Daily mode. Just FYI setting F in the menu has effect only in Sport mode, no change in Daily or Eco. :) Btw nice ride, cool video, keep up the great content. :)
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
Was wondering why I didn’t notice a difference 🤣 thanks for that. Appreciate you watching!
@user-hg7lp8os5k
@user-hg7lp8os5k 5 месяцев назад
Great videos. I ride an ultra bee and live in WA as well. Ever consider racing NORCs or other off road races?
@FortGeo1312
@FortGeo1312 4 месяца назад
Love the vibe!
@zekd
@zekd 4 месяца назад
Thank you!
@FortGeo1312
@FortGeo1312 4 месяца назад
@@zekdwhat do got as a phone holder?
@michaelenglund
@michaelenglund Месяц назад
I think it is easy to control heavy regen with the throttle. For me no need to have lower regen. I use it when I need to with throttle control.
@gareth5000
@gareth5000 5 месяцев назад
Fabulous vid😁👍
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
Thanks 😁
@Fr3shM1nt
@Fr3shM1nt 5 месяцев назад
Cool video! What sort of handle bar bag you using? Gonna have to try map A2 on my bike, never tried.
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
You can’t buy this exact bar bag. But I would check out trailboundco - they have some great bar bars that are very similar to my setup.
@bingeciren
@bingeciren 5 месяцев назад
Very nice. Shows how capable the UB is. I've been enjoying mine for the past 3-4 months and frankly my KTM 300 became my second choice for this type of riding. My mods are aimed at getting maximum benefit for the least amount of money spent. Bar risers, 100/90-19 Mitas soft enduro rear tire, putting the rear tire to the front and a 50 rear sprocket. Getting about 40 miles range riding hard enduro. Don't want to switch to 18/21 wheels because I don't want to add more weight to this bike. So far I'm extremely happy with the result.
@ElToroMoto
@ElToroMoto 5 месяцев назад
Are you running the stock front tire or? With the taller side profile of the 100/90-19 were there any adverse effects in terms of balance? I have a Tusk EMEX 100/90-19 and it's about 3/4 of an inch taller than the stock setup. I also put on the 80/100-19 Tusk EMEX front tire which I like. I've held off on putting on the 100/90-19 due to concerns about negatively impacting the handling of the bike so I'd appreciate your feedback. Thx.
@bingeciren
@bingeciren 5 месяцев назад
@@ElToroMoto I just took the stock rear tire, which by the way is a front tire by design, and put it on the front wheel. If you do the math, putting an 18” wheel and a suitable fatter tire on it gives you the same wheel diameter of the 100/90-19 tire. The stock rear tire of the UB, being 90/90-19 is slightly smaller in diameter wrt this rear tire but nothing noticeably significant. So in effect the geometry of the bike is not much altered. Sure the 21” front tire would be better for going over the ruts but for technical single track slow speed riding it doesn’t matter that much. It all depends on your riding style. High speed MX riding is not what I do.
@KNKLHEAD
@KNKLHEAD 2 месяца назад
I like "max benefit least amount" theory. I am getting UB here in a few weeks. Currently ride Light Bee single track. Regarding your tire set up: You are running 100/90-19 Mitas soft enduro rear tire (which model?) rear and moving the UB rear upfront .. Assume the 100/90-19 Mitas soft enduro rear tire is same or less height than original rear so your geometry remains correct? I also like single track and tight/technical riding best.
@nunyobizkneez
@nunyobizkneez 4 месяца назад
do a bike upgrade/add ons vid. it would be awesome for potential/new owners to see whats out there to help dial in these bikes based on rider preference
@zekd
@zekd 4 месяца назад
Absolutely, been waiting to hit 500mi before making the video, one more ride and I'll be there ready to discuss. Appreciate the suggestion!
@nu77byte49
@nu77byte49 2 месяца назад
Im very tempted on these ultra bee's I'm currently on a ec300 2011 and getting older so lighter would be nice
@zekd
@zekd 2 месяца назад
man, they are a blast to ride! How many miles do you usually ride?
@EricKammerzelt
@EricKammerzelt 5 месяцев назад
What phone mount? I like your style
@user-hg7lp8os5k
@user-hg7lp8os5k 5 месяцев назад
Appreciate the videos. I also have an ultra bee and live in WA. Riding this weekend?
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
I'm out of town this weekend, but I'm down to link up next. Where abouts are you located in WA?
@user-hg7lp8os5k
@user-hg7lp8os5k 5 месяцев назад
I live in Issaquah but we travel all over
@jimji2774
@jimji2774 5 месяцев назад
Very fun video to compare your ride with traditional bikes but you might also be a better rider. did you do any suspension or controller upgrades yet ? you can easily spend more on upgrades on these Surrons than you paid for this bike that can be fun too thanks.
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
No suspension or controller mods. Yeah, the cost to upgrade the power is ridiculous. Pretty hard to justify.
@robbed_of_sanity
@robbed_of_sanity 2 месяца назад
I would like to take you to ride some Walker Valley secret trail. How does that bike do on big hill climbs.
@zekd
@zekd 2 месяца назад
Lets do it! - I have it fully upgraded now (power wise) it tackles high climbs with ease now.
@trail.squatch
@trail.squatch 5 месяцев назад
More wheelie vids!
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
you got it!
@Kovacreation
@Kovacreation 5 месяцев назад
I know upgraded batteries are a lot of money... but would be neat to see how a upgraded 72v or 84v battery would do
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
Yeah I’m going to try and do a comparison. My buddy has an upgraded battery.
@LaBrouetteSP
@LaBrouetteSP 5 месяцев назад
🔥🔥🔥
@gavindobson6077
@gavindobson6077 5 месяцев назад
Great video, is that a chin mount for the Go Pro?
@gavindobson6077
@gavindobson6077 5 месяцев назад
I like the way you have the ride report info in the description, excellent for research and reference 😊
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
amzn.to/3ST5X26 - it’s a Dango Design Gripper Mount. I love it!
@gavindobson6077
@gavindobson6077 5 месяцев назад
@@zekd got it, 👌
@gavindobson6077
@gavindobson6077 5 месяцев назад
@@zekd can you share what editing software you use? 👍
@apergiel
@apergiel 5 месяцев назад
Nice video. So, 20 miles over moderate terrain on a single charge? VS 70 mpg on a gas bike? On very hilly coastal range trail where I would like to ride, it would be like 10 miles?
@anotherguywithaflyingcamer6193
@anotherguywithaflyingcamer6193 5 месяцев назад
No, it actually does a lot better at lower speed. The fast flow stuff uses about double the battery on electrics. Same is true with cars, they do better in the city than on the freeway. This was also in the cold with snow still on the ground. That significantly reduces electric range unfortunately. Most people that ride off-road get around 25-30 if they are on more technical stuff.
@Tmbikes07
@Tmbikes07 5 месяцев назад
Wanting to buy a ultra, could u make a video of making a top speed run, comparing it to other bikes, riding road and off-road?
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
Yes, I plan on doing a 300mi review where I will cover all that. Thanks for the suggestion.
@BogdanNourescu
@BogdanNourescu 5 месяцев назад
Btw, from what i understand, throttle sensitivity only works in Sport mode
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
Oh yeah I think you’re right.
@nobraap
@nobraap 5 месяцев назад
@@zekd engine break when breaking is aswell only available in sport mode I think
@justinstimpson
@justinstimpson 4 месяца назад
Compared to the light bee. How comfortable is the seat?
@zekd
@zekd 4 месяца назад
Not sure. I have not ridden the Light Bee. I find the seat on par with most modern dirt bike seats.
@PUGETSOUNDMOTORSPORTS
@PUGETSOUNDMOTORSPORTS 5 месяцев назад
We need to get together so you can ride some of my bikes 😏
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
Let’s do it 😎
@basementrants
@basementrants 5 месяцев назад
What height riser did you go with?
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
2”
@garbageman3992
@garbageman3992 5 месяцев назад
an e bike with a small 3 speed transmission or lowered gearing to max out at like 70 kmh would be fun for single-track riding where you dont need to put down much power. a transmission or low gearing would really increase the battery life by a lot and give you more than enough low end power for even hard enduro type riding. as it stands tho currently nobody makes a cheap, good quality e dirtbike andnobody makes one with a transmission despite them badly needing them for battery life, performance, and longevity. a small transmission would allow most e dirbtikes to have up to 500 charges and still have 80 percent capacity but all the current ones only get like 100 at the very best if you do hard enduro riding. i want to see someone put a transmission on a sur ron .
@Ebbrush3
@Ebbrush3 5 месяцев назад
76AH batteries are ssoooo $$$$ for this bike
@davidbabbitt106
@davidbabbitt106 5 месяцев назад
Stock wheels?
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
Nope, 18/21 set from Warp9
@daniilvolkov8790
@daniilvolkov8790 5 месяцев назад
Did he say Olympic peninsula?
@TwoBears036
@TwoBears036 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, the Olympic Peninsula in Washington state. Belfair Washington to be more specific.Tahuya state forest.
@Ebbrush3
@Ebbrush3 5 месяцев назад
nice trail maintenance ...................F GAS anyone want to buy my kawis
@joshc3926
@joshc3926 5 месяцев назад
Some constructive criticism, please go back and recut those trees as close to the ground as possible. Ive seen first hand riders getting gaft by the 'bayonet' tree trunks like that hiding in the bush. Super dangerous!!
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
I run this trail frequently, I'll clean em up next time. Unfortunately, riding where I ride, there's hundreds of trees like this
@joshc3926
@joshc3926 5 месяцев назад
@@zekd I hear ya man, can't fix'em all. Just makes me cringe at the thought of landing on one. Hey side question, what app are you running on your rides? I like the clean interface. Does it show speed, mi, heading on the right side of the screen. I dig it!
@zekd
@zekd 4 месяца назад
@@joshc3926 Yeah, there's so many of those out in the parts where the logging companies have came through. To answer your question about the navigation. The applications is DMD2, and the device is a T665. I mainly use it on my adventure bike but it swaps so easy to different bikes. Allows you to track speed, distance etc. Along with tracking routes. My favorite part is you can hook a bluetooth obd2 dongle up to your gas bikes and read and clear codes from the device. Its pretty slick. Check out ADVtim.com for more info on it. I was sick of using Garmin. Way too clunky. The device is a rugged Android phone so you can run any apps you want on it.
@joshc3926
@joshc3926 4 месяца назад
@@zekd Really good info, thank you for that!
@TabooRevolution13
@TabooRevolution13 2 месяца назад
Electric is where it's at now! After the Stark Varg I think they will dominate the market from now on!
@user-hg7lp8os5k
@user-hg7lp8os5k 5 месяцев назад
Great videos. I ride an ultra bee and live in WA as well. Ever consider racing NORCs or other off road races?
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
Nice! Yeah, would love to race NORCs. Been racing down in Arizona but haven’t gotten into it up here. Whats the usually milage of the races? Short course, long course?
@user-hg7lp8os5k
@user-hg7lp8os5k 5 месяцев назад
I do short course since range won’t last the long course. It’s a timed race and short is now 45 min plus a lap. Range is still a concern even there
@zekd
@zekd 5 месяцев назад
Yeah stock battery wont cut it for me, I would need to upgrade before doing any races.
@user-hg7lp8os5k
@user-hg7lp8os5k 5 месяцев назад
I have ordered a second battery from Puget soundmotorsports hot swap during the race but it’s not hear yet. Doing the team race for NMA round 1 this weekend at Horn Rapids and going to charge in between laps.
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