Survivor: Island of the Idols Review 

This season could be summed up by the fact that the only person in the final 5 to never visit the Island of the Idols won it all

The biggest loser has to be Dan's 13 yr old son. That kid gonna have a hell of a time getting through puberty.

When you said "my wife", I nearly spit out my drink, I thought you were like 19

I feel so bad for kellee and all the shit that happened to her. But I'm really bummed because that's all anyone will remember her by and not her two idols and brilliant Jack blindside. I really hope she comes back.

Dean was one of the most entertaining players I’ve ever watched after seeing the finale. Not because he was super good, but because his personality was just hilarious.

For one thing, I would like DK chillin’ to come back, the way that he turned it up in the 4th quarter was impressive to me.

After Kellee went home .. the whole season felt weird to me , I just wasn’t that interested.

Can you do a cast assessment and predictions episode of winners at war? I’d like to know who you think will be the early vote outs, who will form alliances, and who will make it to the end

One thing I wanna see in Winners at War is Rob end up first on the edge of extinction and then start building the best shelter ever in survivor yes even better than Island of the idols shelter

You summed up the Dan situation extremely well and my girlfriend and I went through the same thing. We were ready to drop the season after the Kelly episode and we grew frustrated when Janet was labeled as the bad guy in the very next episode. I'm glad she can look back now and know she was a hero.

i understand that the game of survivor has changed, i really do, but the amount of idols and advantages in the game has become insane. also, the way “big moves” talk has taken over every single tribal council is annoying. as we saw, tommy won the game without a single idol or advantage in the game. he didn’t even go to IOI for goodness sake. survivor is a social experiment at the core. that is how you win the game, you build relationships with people knowing after you vote them out, you have to ask them for their votes in the end. i understand that there are other aspects to the game like alliances and immunity challenges besides the social game but it truly is a social game. we got to see this so much more in older “old school” seasons and i just wish we could see some of this from the newer seasons. i hope that soon we get a “back to basics season” in the near future. i don’t mean no idols, i just mean not so many idols that every other person is finding one. but i do think they should get rid of all the extra advantages. i also want them to stop focusing so much on big moves and more in the relationships that are built and the actual “survival” aspect of the show.

The weird part for this season was mostly just that so many people covered up island of the idols but then it was never mentioned. Were there some castaways that didn’t know about it until the finale? I doubt it but they didn’t air anybody mentioning it to really anybody

Besides dan, I did really like this season.

I’d love to see Chelsea, Janet, Kellee, and Elaine back. I’d even be okay with Lauren and Missy returning to see how they’ve grown from not only their mistakes but from the way they played their first time. Overall I thought the women this season was some of the best casting in a while, regardless of how things turned out

Island of the Idols is the Jekyll and Hyde of Survivor seasons. The pre-merge was really good in my opinion. It was exciting and had numerous edge of your seat votes. The merge onward was just unpleasant. It became extremely predictable from then on out, and committed the cardinal sin a season can do: it was not fun to watch. If you liked this season I think that’s fantastic, and I’m glad you did. Survivor for me though is about escapism; to relish in an hour’s worth of challenges, game talk, and unique personalities. I did not enjoy a single episode after the merge and could not get invested in it, and that’s too unforgivable in my eyes.

*what they are doing about it moving forward* Me: Not casting Richard Hatch for Winners at war which therefore means he’ll never return to survivor.

Among the finalists - Janet deserved to win this season.

Missy and Elizabeth made the situation 10 times worse by abusing it and using it to their advantage

The merge episode... Ugh ruined the whole season

I loved Dean’s final tribal performance, I think the votes would’ve been much closer, and he might have won, if Dean didn’t lie when he said he didn’t promise anyone final three.

Noura: Karishma is crazy Me: look who's talking

I wish Rob and Sandra were giving more commentary throughout. Also, kind of silly that one of the few players who didn't go to the Island won. I think the theme was a disappointment for my wife and I.

The Season was ruined by the inappropriate gameplay, and life lessons were definitely needed for some, (those like dan)

Probably unpopular but haven't liked any of the seasons since Probst changed f4 to give Ben the win. Read Jeff fired almost everyone to take even more control of the production. His ego was big enough. The way the Dan situation was handled, was an epic fail start to finish. The reunion sit down between Jeff and Kellee felt inauthentic on Jeff's part, as if he was going for an emmy. Kellee was very authentic. Production should have put a stop to Missy & Liz as soon as they discussed using Kellee's uncomfortableness as a strategy. That was unfair to both Kellee and Dan. Survivor AU is so much better. I hope AU doesn't implement the stupid f4 firemaking, EOE or all of the stupid advantages. It's way too much. Survivor going the way of Big Brother with all of the production interference to steer the story. It's not the same show and that is sad.

The only person not to have had mentorship from Rob and Sandra won the game. What a fail.

To me, the show feels like a set, very fake. Too much lighting, too much editing (and editing that doesn't even give a sense of continuity), and practically no actual survival scenes. Which is sad... because when watching the ponderosas, you can see how much weight these dudes lose and that it is such a tough game... Visually, everything is starting to look the same since the location hasn't changed... the challenges feel samey... and this dialogue of "big moves" is starting to get really grating. These aren't issues with IoI specifically, just issues with the show in general. I haven't even mentioned the excess of advantages, because I think most people agree they don't feel special anymore since there are so many (yay inflation!). Alright, cynical comment done. IDK how survivor is gonna move forward

Fantastic review. My daughter and I were very upset after the merge episode, with Kelly voted out and Jan being made the villain. We agree with your analysis completely and the show exposed how easy it is to sweep things under the rug. Like you and your wife, we believe Jamal addressed the issue best. Jamal is someone I would love to have a conversation with; although we would not agree politically, it would be enlightening to hear the foundations of his beliefs. Thank you for your thoughtful analysis on Islands of the Idols.

Why is there an idol in every corner, the average Joe is finding idols now, even when people started looking for them without clues it was very hard to find, for me personally I loved the last idol which Dean found like a treasure hunt, at least hide it better I guess

This season shows precisely how "real" Survivor is. As a show, you never want to show that there was a predator making people feel uncomfortable, nor that you mishandled the situation, nor that a coin toss ended up deciding the fate of the most beloved player of the season. However, Survivor is as "real" as reality shows get, and did not have an option in portraying the failures of the IOI season. While this was frustrating, I think a lesson was learned, as the reality of the show bore its ugly, yet eye-opening head.

Peridiam, you couldn't have said this any better. First of all, you're right that it's very important to look at the social issues that were going on throughout the season. It's a game of social politics, and to ignore what happens out there is just the worst thing one could do. Next, I'm glad you dissected the merge episode very thoroughly. I also went back to watch and analyze it (though not as heavily as you), and completely agree with your assessment on the Dan situation. As for production, I really liked how you pointed out that while they messed up, they do care. There is a big difference between making a mistake and being wrong, and not even caring for the contestants. There's some people out there who probably think they don't care- that how they respond is all for ratings and money. And yeah, that plays a role. But I think they learned an important lesson, and you talking about learning this important lesson is just the best thing I could hear. I'm also glad that you said you tried to take the positives out of the season. While we can't just ignore the negatives, we shouldn't ignore the positives either. And while we may have had another male winner, it was so refreshing to see someone win by playing the social and strategic game from the top, instead of relying on idols and advantages and playing from the bottom. This was absolutely a great assessment of the season, and I just want to say thank you.

Just gonna put this out there: a woman plays Tommy’s game, and they are considered a goat. Just saying. Closest example is probably Kara Kay, who played a solid game (similar to Tommy) but would probably be seen as a goat if she makes it to the end. That’s why Tommy’s win is uninspiring to me.

I agree with your placement of this season. The inappropriate touching really soured it and people made mistakes but that doesn’t stop me from loving these characters! The pre merge was fantastic and while I wish the merge and post merge would have played out differently, it still ended up being okay in the end. Overall, a season with lots of potential that unfortunately fell flat, but still more enjoyable than several other seasons.

Peridiam, I belive you should do a video called: Survivor Second chances 2, Since you did a video about who you would put for Heroes vs Villains 2, i wanna see who would be there for Second chances, mainly because there is speculation about S42 being SC2

Maybe we need to do a redo on top 5 obvious winners lol

Other than the Dan incident my least favorite part of this season was KARISHMA

I liked this season a lot. If Dan hadn't been cast I'm sure people would appreciate more some of the great characters we had - look at Noura, Janet, Kellee, Karishma, Elaine. Dean was my favorite of the season, I think he is so underappreciated. I could see all of these returning, plus Tommy.

This season is difficult to place in survivor history. It's tough to watch. It's tough to rank. Pre merge was amazing. Great gameplay. Great characters introduced. Great editing. Overall just great. Only issues were the whole dan thing as looking at the premiere episode now makes me feel sick. I also personally, found the social issues brought up a little preachy. The merge episode was disgusting. I hated how it ruined so many people that we got to know over the 7 weeks. I hated how everything was handled. I feel like there is a lot that needs to be explained about what happened during the first 22 days. As viewers I feel like there is more that needs to be addressed. I want to know how everyone during the merge was feeling at that time. I'm just depressed how it was edited/handled. So many of the lives of these contestants lives were affected by this merge episode. I think within the next few weeks we may get these answers from the contestants when they are free to talk about their experiences. The next merge episodes (10-13) were boring and predictable. Maybe episode 10 was fun, but the fact they left out and didn't care to discuss what happened the episode before. The next three were really boring. Sorry. They had their moments. But I was just not invested in them. The end of episode 13 needs to be explained, because I'm still questioning what happened and we as viewers were never explained what happened. The finale was amazing. I loved it. I was sad about Janet leaving and agree fully that the idol nullifier shouldn't be played up to final 5. But maybe final 7. Tommy was a great winner and I'm happy that we got a player that won solely based on social play. Dean was great and a fun player. Noura was a queen. Lauren was great. Janet our robbed queen. Elaine a fun character. Karishma, probably my favourite of the season. And many other of the cast were greta additions to survivor. Overall, it's a middle of the road season for me.

I’m so excited for season 40

Let's just skip right to season 40! A winners season! Tommy won, but Dean was the better winner in my eyes. Without Dean dropping the beans to Tommy at Tribal Council, he would have gone home at that moment. Dean saved Tommy's game, and in the end Tommy couldn't get voted off because he had his hand in everyone's cookie jar. The jury missed a chance to cement the person who outwitted, outplayed and outlasted everyone else. Ultimately, he was caught in the spiders web by the final tribal council when they dug a little deeper and called him out. That in the end was all Tommy needed to win the game.

Honestly it dissapoints me how Kellee's story with Dan actually hides the fact that Kellee played a great game. In my opinion she played so well. I would love to see her in a future season.

The whole thing with Kelly and Dan was confusing at first for me, and especially since I read in the paper that a few of the women came forward after the fact to say that their own accusations (all butt Kelly's) had been strategy, not real life. So I was really confused as to whether it HAD happened at all, and I was angry that women would take advantage not only of the Me Too movement for a f*cking GAME (much as I love Survivor, mind you...), and of Janet's integrity. She certainly wasn't the bad person in this situation, though: I admired her for what she did. Mama bear looking after her girls, you know? I'd have done the same thing despite being, probably, half her age or less.

Merry Christmas to everyone but Dan

not y'all saying "keep social issues out of Survivor" when Survivor is a SOCIAL game... PLZ.

Aside from the Dan controversy, this was overall a really good season especially premerge and even though the post merge was not as good as premerge, it's overall a season to watch at least once. I just hate how one person which in this case Dan had to ruin the entire post merge

DK chillin’ is a legend being him back

some thoughts: i understand why tommy won, but i really wanted it to be dean. i also think kellee was robbed of some great gameplay if the whole dan thing had been handled better. hoping they bring her back. overall, not a stellar season, but not bad either

I would love to see Noura again, She’s a challenge beast and such a character. She deserves another shot

Irrelevant but I want a season of 0 vote getters, I really want to see who ends up getting 0 votes in that season 😂. My money would be on Sugar, Angelina or Noura.

the whole dan situation makes it really hard for me to actually like this season, that and the fact that they tried to edit it about women empowerment only for the woman in the f3 to be ridiculed for her game and for it to basically be a f2 between the two men. also, the whole scripted bullshit with ioti annoyed me because it was so obvious that they knew rob and sandra were there, which we saw when elaine and elizabeth talked about it. id never seen a season take such a bad turn so quickly before like we saw here. it was... something.

This is why I love and respect Peridiam. A true fan that recognizes issues and addresses them with responsibility and eloquence. You just exposed everything I had in mind and what I thought about Season 39. I'm glad that you are part of this community, Peridiam! Good job, buddy! 👍🙌 I believe 100% in Kellee and all the women who felt uncomfortable about that man behavior. I stand with women! That's all.

This season is definitely a bottom 5 season to me. From the inappropriate gameplay, sloppy handling of issues by production, and "a very special virtue signaling" every other episode to try to make up for Dan's behavior it was awful. I will say though I'd gladly watch Noura again. As you said shes a breathe of fresh air. Merry Christmas Peridiam.

Okay, I typically watch your videos and sometimes I agree or disagree with what you say. This is the first time I have watched your video and went, "every feeling and thought I had about this season is align with your thoughts." So thank you for making this video.

People say this is the absolute worst season ever, but like... I personally say there are much MORE worst seasons that this. To me, people seem to be too hung up about Dan ruining the entire season, when personally there have been relatively good moments in this season and aside from Dan, the casting choices were pretty good. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not SUPER good, but I personally this season was alright if you take out the whole Dan situation. also people seem to forget that richard sexually assaulted sue in all-stars yet mostly everyone thought she was joking around, and in thailand, ted sexually assaulted ghandia and never even got removed for it, and personally those two seasons were just... ugh in general

Merry Christmas Peridiam

Part of the problem is we didn't truly get to see Lauren or Tommy's personality. We knew Noura well enough and kinda Dean but other than being a teacher I have no idea who Tommy is. I know even less about Lauren.

I was rooting for Dean to win.

The fact that they proceeded to show Dan’s son knowing he gets ejected from the game for assault is disgusting. His son should not have been shown, I don’t care if it gives away what happens

5 seasons, 52 Votes only 2 for women.... Only 5 women have made the F3 in those 5 seasons. Noura, Angelina and Laurel were 3 of those finalists and it’s not hard to see or disagree with why they received 0 votes. Chrissy received 2 votes and I would say deserved more, but that’s my personal opinion. Julie, the last female finalist, who received 0 votes definitely deserved more, but that again is just my opinion. With that said, I think it’s incredibly disingenuous to suggest that the vote disparity has misogynistic undertones. Just 6 seasons ago, a woman got to the end and destroyed her male counterparts. Had Lauren made fire this season, that number certainly would not be what it is, or Janet not had her idol nullified. Had Victoria a season before or Alison and potentially Kara in S37 made the end, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Women are not at an inherent disadvantage in the end. The reason for the lopsided male-female winner vote disparity is due to the disparity of women and men who actually make the finals, combined with who those women and men happen to be.

Man man man this video is powerful..

I'm glad you addressed the whole Dan thing forefront would have lost a lot of respect if u didn't. Tommy has been the most predictable/boring winner in a long while but whatever. For second chances for sure Nora, Kellee, Jamal and Janet!

One of the worst seasons in a while

The pre-merge SLAPPED then everything went down hill FAST

I'd love to see Noura, Dean and Elaine play again.

I wish they built it up that Dean could win because I knew the whole time that Dean wasn’t winning the editing was a little flawed because of that

Oh, and yes, I would LOVE for Janet to return. Yes, you read that right: Janet. I'm with Coach on this one: I like players who display honesty and integrity. Season 41, anyone?

Other than the Dan incident There were some pretty good moments for post Merge like: *Kween Janet standing up* *Dan being kicked off* *Noura being Noura* *Karishima’s Idol play* *Dean being best player at the last two episodes* *wiNnErs aT waR* Dats it I REALLY Hope Kellee and Jamal get another chance

Is it just me or was Karishma the most boring player this season. No game and not social or physical

“Omg is that Yul?” The only thing I needed in life.

It's very sad that this season had to be surrounded by so much negativity because without that, this actually could've been a really good season. But that being said..... HOLY CRAP WINNERS AT WAR!!! 🎉🎊

Kelly definitely deserved better. I always hated how all the girls were on her side when she spoke up about how Dan made her uncomfortable, then turned their back on her immediately and denied it. They almost used her allegations as a way to advance in the game and that is not okay. Janet was right in standing up for Kelly, risking her own game and going out on a limb to make camp more safer. Elizabeth, Missy, Elaine all said they felt uncomfortable too, and if they truly did not they should not have lied to Kelly like that to make her feel safe in the game.

Okay I just have to say this, the reason women have received so few votes in recent seasons, is largely due to better players with better stories being next to them at the end. Tommy is King, and deserves it the most, hands down.

One thing I don’t like about survivor know is that people have to make big moves to win even if the big move hurts their chances to make it to the end. Sandra in her first season always stayed with the majority and never tried to make a big move and she won by sneaking her way to the end.

An otherwise decent season that is forever stained by a man named Dan.

Merry christmas peridiam 🥺🥺🥺

Dan ruined his life people are never going to let this go away

THANK YOU, PERIDIAM! I was a relatively new Survivor viewer and season #39 was the first season I watched from the beginning. I was shocked to see many of the women BLAMING KELLEE for SPEAKING UP about DAN! This was a brutal truth, a reflection of America's scorn for women who have been raped while society blames the victims for "provoking" their attackers. These women implied Kellee "ruined" Survivor #39 by speaking out and exposing a distasteful topic that "should have remained hidden". Kellee was vilified, disrespected and "punished" by being voted out soon after she spoke up, while Dan was treated with respect and allowed to continue to the "FINAL 6", two weeks later. PERIDIAM: it's NEVER TOO LATE to make that video expressing your own opinions about this situation. PLEASE DO THIS as I suspect you feel exactly about DAN and this situation as I do.

Oh and the edit get Tommy so dirty. He played very well but the whole edit of Season was in other direction. It feels that at the end all this conversation of learning problems and how you would manage that in the gameplay survivor... At the end no matter what, Tommy win. They guy who wasnt involve at all. Yeah the edit in Tommy was terrible

They are ruining the show with too many special advantages

Thank you! I thought I was a fan, but you’ve got me beat. Especially after you mentioned that you transcribed the merge episode. Keep up the great work. Look forward to more content.

Island of the idols turned out better then I thought it would at the beggining, you are right that the pre merge was much better and it's been a while since we had a good non predicable one. Tommy is a ok winner he did decent but I'm getting sick of these boring and or perdicablity winners that we've been getting, I don't think it's good to guess the winner after 3 episodes. Second chance: Everyone pre merge plus Kellee, Jamal, Missy,Janet, Elaine and Noura (plz bring back Noura) Let's go Natalie and Parvati

Late to the party, but... The Controversy: Dan touching the women is bad...very bad yes, but made so much more discouraging when you break things down. 1. This was one of the first times I felt a blatent 4th wall break by the editors, camera crew,and producers. a. Asking Kellee if she wanted them to do something about Dan Spiro on camera was probably the right thing to do, not from a production standpoint, but from a advocate standpoint. If someone is a victim of sexual abuse, and that is by definition what we saw, than what was taken from them was power, choice, and control. Listening to the interviewer speak, he asked her what SHE wanted to do and did she want to report it or have them do something about it. I was happy to see that. I can 100% see how people would be bitter about what the saw because what we saw felt like injustice, mirrors so much like what sexual violence looks like in our world and in our courts and in our homes. b. The cast all got warnings and a lecture on boundaries and impropriety...ok. Beyond the edit, did this stop the behavior? We felt icky watching Dan say "Since you're not going to drop it" at tribal council after watching the camera crew break the 4th wall and record themselves recording Dan touching people...especially since they all just got talked to about it. I loved that Jeff said he'd "Never let it go Dan!" c. As gross as it initially felt to have had Elizabeth, Missy, Elaine, and Laure use sexual abuse as a game strategy, I was in equal jaw dropped awe at how Dan tried to play it all off with Janet and them...But then I remembered that it is super common for Victims to feel bad about being victimized, to change their minds or change their feelings or change their reports, ect. Yes, 100% what they did was wrong, but I can't judge them for not fessing up at or after tribal or for lying about it later when Janet and Dan confronted them...because I have seen this dynamic play out before with sexual and domestic violence victims 1M times. Also, Dans get more power in these outcomes and feel emboldened to push further...like so many before him, hubris kicked in and he did it to a non-contestant and that's what got him punished. Zero victim blaming here, but if you ever see this dynamic play out again, pull the victim aside and ask them questions and support them away from their aggressor. If Janet did that, she may have had a better outcome. d. Speaking of Janet, what a super hero! May we all see something and say something like her. e. The men saying if they knew, they would have said something is a cop-out. We all see things, we just often brush it off, make excuses for it, or are uncomfortable with addressing it...that or we are distracted. I don't want to jump all over these guys, but the women don't need you to rescue them, just stand up with them together, united. f. CBS could have avoided a lot of controversy and pain for all the women involved if they acted when they first recorded-recognized it. Dan got off with a warning, Dan got to make his victims back down...Dan felt unstoppable...Dan hurt someone else. That cycle needs to stop everywhere, not just on an island in the Pacific. g. Sorry, I know this is already a dissertation...I love what Jamal said about it. Idols: I could easily watch a new modern season that had zero idols or advantages at this point. It is getting predictable. Fan gets excited and wants to have the full experience and goes looking for an idol...everyone else who was to nervous to or distracted to gets nervous or paranoid and puts a target on that person...hence, drama ensues. That all makes the later episode hunting parties seem silly. As for DK Chillin..."what if they have the trace busta-busta?" Island of the idols seems a few to many idols overboard for 1 season. Especially asking Jamal to make his own legacy advantage with a pencil and paper. SMH.

The best Christmas gift of all! Thank you Peridiam!

I purely enjoyed the ups and downs in this season. Pure chaos. One thing I didn’t like (I’ve only started binge watching seasons this past year or so) is that I never felt like people were physically struggling. I liked in older seasons where food and water was crucial, really kept that survival type feel.

I loved watching Dean play in the final few episodes. I wasn't really rooting for anyone since there were a lot of likable people this season and I was taking a more statistical, step back approach to viewing, but when Dean got hot, I was out of my chair cheering for him at every moment.

I liked the seasons up until missy and Elizabeth used the Kellee and Dan to their advantage. I think that’s why no one took kellee serious till the final 6

I do agree that it is amazing that Tommy won without any idols, but his allies had so many advantages, especially Dean so without the amount of advantages given this season I don’t think Tommy would’ve won

It may have just been me? But I think you said (in here) that Dan's last name is Skupin (confused with "Mr I fell into the fire Michael Skupin" Instead of "Touchy Feely Dan Spilo" )

I personally want to forget this season ever happened and pray next season is better. Having said that Jack and Jamal were my favorites. I cut out somewhere after the merge because I lost interest. The production and editing this season was a fail for me.

Janet would have been the saving grace of this season.

Here’s the thing. Kellee gives her heartbreaking confessional, and we hear the producer say “if there are issues, let us know and we’ll do something.” SHE JUST TOLD YOU THERE ARE. And she cannot properly advocate for herself when there are complex social dynamics and a million dollars on the line.

Peridiam, thank you. Your review is not only the closest to my personal feelings of the season, but puts it in a way that makes sense even to those that don’t dissect the show like me. Your analysis was brilliant. Thank you

I thought it was a terrible season but I do have to give it credit for a great ending, watching Tommy defeat Dean in a Great Classic Gameplay vs Modern Gameplay standoff was super satisfying

There are a lot of players from this season I'd love to see back. Elaine, Jamal, Janet, Kellee would all be nice to see back sometime.

OMG Is that Yul?

Chelsea NEEDS a second chance. You could see she had so much potential but was screwed bc of others wanting to make a big move for the heck of it. I also wouldn't mind seeing Dean, Elaine, Janet, Kellee, or Jamal play again as well

The season started out so great and then...all the inappropriate touching stuff started and ruined the whole season...unlike most, i'm not too keen of the idea of an all winners seasons, i think it's just a gimmick and potentially get boring if we see 20 people trying to play the same way...

Tommy is for real a legit winner. Loved watching him this season.

I cant stand rob and sandra. I hated the way they won their seasons and how they got so far in others. Especially rob, i understand that they played well but i dont understand how the other players were so blind as to not see what they were doing and allowed it to happen.

I’m sorry, but I gotta disagree with your opinion on karishma. She was just not a good player and really annoying. The only reason why she made it as far as she did was because there were bigger threats. Great vid, just my only complaint with what you said

I’m actually kind of here for an all winners season. For the sake of certain winners. I still want to know what Ethan or Yul have been up to. Or if winners like Sophie, Dani, Michelle, and Kim would do better in a game where their biggest competition is just as strong as them. I’m a little intrigued by Amber returning. But, I don’t know if I fancy the weird money thing showed in the preview. Or the return of Sandra and Rob. Who I love, but, I need a break from. I will say I’m a bit bummed that Mike and Denise aren’t returning or Tom. But. 🤷‍♀️