Nick just left this on the Nippy Norman website...... Never really used the DIN connection and thought it was a little pointless. However, by chance watched a Nick Hodge (RU-vid video who does a few mods to his GS) about changing it out for this dual USB socket which for me is far more useful! Fitting is very straight forward comprehensive instructions provided! Worth the money thanks NN!
Rather than the GS which was a gradual add-on process I’m needing to assemble luggage from other suppliers, some Denali stuff that I want to upgrade and/or doesn’t fit the GSA. Then I’ve got to unwind most figments off the GS so it’s busy. Then got to refit it all and run her in to 1st service before 18th when were of ‘who knows where’ on a weeks tour
Thank you for this video. At the moment i'm saving up for a R1250GS. And this will be one of the first things i will change. Because i was allready wondering about this.
I've just taken the plunge and bought the USB plug from NN.....using a cheap eBay DIN to USB adaptor which looks "bulky" and sometimes doesn't connect properly on the USB side. So thanks for the heads up on this which should solve my charging woes! PS. Good to see you back posting after lockdown!
No worries. Glad it works. The relocated DIN socket (if you did that too) is equally useful being 24/7 connected to the battery (so live always). Everyone connects via my DIN plug-in USB connector to that to charge their phones at lunch stops. I’m like a mobile power bank!! Ride safe 👍🏻
Yes Nick, I bought the kit so will be relocating the din socket over the weekend. I’ve also ordered TFT security bracket on the back of your vids. I might have to stay away until next months pay day 😂😂
Apologies Nick - I don’t have Canbus on either of my bikes. Still, you’ve taught me something new. It was good to see you riding down The Avenue (Innov install). I used to live in Upper Shirley👍
Thanks Nick. Have just purchased a BMW heated vest which plugs into the factory fitted socket behind the handle bars but your idea, underneath the seat, seems far tidier! 👍🏻
Thanks for the info Nick. I got mine in New York from eBay - closer to the source in China. $25 free shipping . Dual USB Charger Power Adapter Kit for BMW R1200GS R1250GS F850GS DIN Socket (Fits: BMW). Nippy Norman's and Touratech ($75) are middle-men I guess. Received it in less than a week.
Hi James. I’m sure they’re just importing. For me the USB is only half the story. I use the relocated DIN socket for charging battery, inflating tyres, etc almost as much 👍🏻
Hi Nick, thanks for another useful video. I also fitted the dual USB socket from Nippy Normans, but also bought from them another DIN socket with spring loaded flap cover and integrated wires around 25cm long. Rather than use the bracket as you did, I drilled the plastic cover under the seat on the left hand side, allowing the new socket to fit just behind the ECU. The wires can then be routed directly onto the battery terminals. I'm very satisfied with the result, which looks very discreet. I mainly use this for a mini compressor that I carry in the top box on long tours. It has mostly been needed by other riders!
Hi Jonny. Thanks for the tip. It does break one of my drilling rules but I’m sure that’s coming 😂. It’s always the way that it’s other rides using stuff. I am security. As my bike has tracker, alarm, knock sensors on the cameras, Datatool protection, everyone chains theirs to mine 👍🏻
The advantage of the NN bracket is that the din plug does not stick out into the breeze - so you can safely plug in heated clothing in a safer neater fashion.
Just while your on the subject of accessory sockets, if you want to use an 'Airman' compressor or similar for pumping up tyres/punctures from the bike, you will need the standard socket plus the only why the compressors work is if the socket is connected directly to the battery. Because the canbus system will not allow them to operate, due to it thinking the power drain is too much and shuts down the socket ! If like me over the years, a small portable compressor is a gods send. 👍
Excellent video, thanks for sharing. I actually want to put another outlet somewhere on the dash to keep my GoPro charged as I run a GoPro, Sena helmet camera and my phone. All the best Mike
Did the same as you a few weeks back and was well worth it.Easy to fit too. The only negative I found was the rubber covers were not that secure and do fly open now and again. A lot of owners on the NN review page have the same problem. Nice breakdown video.
Yes I agree. The other slight ‘down’ over my adapter is one of the outlets came out the back. Both out the top can make them brush the underside of the bars if the USB cable is thick. No danger but just the bracket could no with being 10mm lower or I should invest in some flexible cables 😂
Nick, thanks for that I saw this under my seat in a bag not sure what it was so kept it with the tools that were also under the seat in my top box. Nobody mentioned it at the 600 mile check, and also just had the 1st year service and nobody mentioned it then. Just been out and fitted it, and the plug now shows on the TFT screen. Not sure that I am going to use it for off road, but now it is fitted. I thought one of the service people would have mentioned it ? I too have the optimists 4 but just fitted the connector straight to the battery with the adapter fitted up under the seat, so just connect the charger straight to that, so no need to worry about the canbus. Just waiting for a Cymarc front engine protector to be delivered as I noticed a stone chip on the front of the casing, don’t want the dreaded rust showing. Hopefully this will stop any more from occurring.
So chuffed I helped one. I agree not sure it’s of real use but you’ve paid for it and the TFT updates started to offer tweaks to each in the pro modes so if you want less wheelie suppression for example you can dial it in. I’m amazed it’s not routine to plug it in at 1st service. Ride safe 👍🏻
Hi Nick! Thanks for this video, I’ve been saving my din outlet ever since replacing it with the Wunderlich dual usb socket ( probably the same one as yours). I had the idea of relocating it to the plastics near the battery, nice to know where I can source the wiring and plug. I might just extend the wiring and mount it on the sidecar’s dash. 🙂
Mine is actually from the UK wunderlich dealer but he sells it under his label so suspect he found the supplier!! Swap out is well worth it in my opinion
Another great video Nick, I actually fitted the din socket into the tail piece in a similar position to the one on a Triumph Explorer, I use it to power my left hand side pannier, I took the supply from the spare port on the CANSmart.
Nick, yes just have it available to charge items if necessary, the second light circuit on the CANSmart is only 4amp, with my set up now probably not going to get a lot of use, I run my Gopro from one of the USB ports, the GoPro remote from the other port and I charge my iPhone from a Quad Lock wireless mount connected to the battery via an Optimate O-100 as this cuts the power 4hrs after turning off the bike, the O-100 is connected to an SAE connection from the battery which I can disconnect and use to power my Rocky Creek pump😉
Hi, good install but I believe your new USB sockets are permanently live. 🤔Possibly better to wire positive lead so that the socket is off when the ignition is off. Alternatively, Hörnig supply a twin USB socket which has its own on/off switch😉
Unfortunately Ernie that’s not the case if you refer to the ‘cockpit’ USB twin socket? That is Canbus controlled and switched off after short delay of ignition switching off. If you mean the new DIN socket under the seat, yes, that is permanently live but really only used for my charger although useful for unrestricted (to 10A) power supply
It amazes me that BMW do not put a USB socket on the GS as standard like for instance Triumph but that looks a simple fix if you need 1. The DIN socket mounting bracket is a brilliant idea-what many don't realise is that when run through the canbus system it won't power things like a mini compressor if you get a puncture so for that alone it's well worth having (I used the optimate flying lead direct to the battery via an inline fuse to do the same and also to power my heated vest) To save having to faff about taking the battery out I used the jump lead stud forward and right of the battery as you look at it to connect all my accessories which is far easier and quicker than having to remove the battery. As far as the pro plug is concerned I think BMW don't plug it in as IIRC it's something to do with being able to switch the TCS and/or ABS off completely in pro mode so they don't want to be open to any legal action if things go pear shaped in pro mode so by default have provided the bike without that option so the owner has to enable it themselves. Great vid as usual and good luck with the camping!
Nick Hodge, you are simply the best!!, I looked under the seat of my R1250GS Exclusive and what did I find?, a little red chip in a plastic bag. I will admit I have removed the seat a number of times and completly missed the plastic bag "stuffed" into one of the seat ribs. I was wondering why most of the videos I was watch on YT had the "PRO" versions and mine didn't. What's really infuriating and I think you eluded to it in this video, even the BMW Techs forget to install the chips, even if the customer has forgotton also. I paid aroud £200 for my 5k / yearly service and my dealership missed the chip also. I now have the "PRO" version rider modes to try-out over the weekend. Happy Days! Much obliged to you. Keep the videos coming if you can, very detailed and informative.
Oh, by the way, is there a little two prong "plug" icon/symbol in the top right hand of the screen? Mine shows this icon, is this the same on your bike? Thanks.
Yep that is the indicator to show the pro mode chip is engaged. Unplug it it’ll go. Plug it in it’s back. Glad you have the pro-modes you paid for. You may find some of those improve with TFT firmware upgrades too but that another ‘insist on’ parts of your service. Doesn’t change the cost but will change the time they need it to most of the day (updates can be slow)
I agree Iain. The DIN re-siting and replacement complement each other. The din socket (re-sited) became the group recharging station on tour this year over each days coffee breaks 🤣
I had been wondering what the little red thing under the rider seat was…..As well as lots of power outlets I now have Enduro Pro mode (not that I’ll ever use it 😂)
Not especially funnily enough although certainly nothing wrong with them. I’ve spent most of my working life in hand and power tools and now run my own business, for a while I was importing product for a UK company and the owners sends me the Wera Advent Calendar as a present each Christmas 😂😂
Nick Hodge though there is something about wera. I come from working behind the desk to transforming to someone working with their hands and everytime I pickup something from my wera tools “I feel the difference”. Not that I could’t work without it, but there is something about it...
Yep. I have one, it’s just it’s permanently in place whereas now I have a permanent USB dual plug at front and the din socket for up to 10a of direct battery power for airbeds, battery chargers or still my USB adapter for heated clothing and the like 👍🏻
I just aquired an Optimate charger, which was supplied programmed to interact with the Canbus system. My bike is a 2010 fGS650 (the 799 cc parallel twin), and is Canbus equipped. Currently I have a (straight) Optimate DIN to USB charger that I use to keep my Iphone (using GPS navigation apps) charged up when riding, and this is the only charging outlet currently installed. It would be nice to be able to twin out the USB connectors as per your installation, but I am interested in how the charging works with the Optimate charger reprogrammed to a normal charger that does not interact with the Canbus system. Did you lose any of the functionality of the Optimate charger when used in this way? The Optimate charger is expensive, and it seems a waste in a way to give up some degree of interactivity if in fact this does happen. Does it still operate as a smart charger in both charge and maintain modes when reprogrammed in this way?
Hi Bruce. You will lose Sumerian’s functionality of the charger talking to the canbus although the charger remains ‘smart’ so reading voltage, applying load, waiting, remeasuring, charge, trickle charge, etc. I have the same unit and got more fed up with removing USB adapter for fear of theft (they’re not cheap) and then remembering to plug it back in than I ever did with the optimate charger function loss also, with the 1250 the DIN socket is quite low and pulling the optimate lead out has already resulted in one new lead as the plug snapped. Whatever you do. Be very careful pulling that plug. It’s more delicate than it feels 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Hi Nick: Prompt and helpful - I am grateful for the benefit of your experience. How are the rubber covers on the twin USB connector holding up? I have to say that is one virtue of the DIN connector supplied as OEM on the bike - the hinged cover is robust, but I am not a fan of how far the Optimate USB adaptor sticks out when plugged in. Fortunately it is in front of my tank bag and somewhat protected, but is pretty easy to dislodge the thing and lose connectivity. .
Bruce Bolster certainly the usb rubber covers could engage better. They do tend to pop open. However I would again say that normally I have stuff plugged in in a serious ride and not much wet gets down there in the cockpit to worry too much.
Great vids Nick. Winter has struck here in Canada and I am poking around my r1250gs prepping it for spring. Just wondering why not just get a DIN to USB adaptor for that socket? Several options around.
I have the optimate dual USB adapter but three main reasons. I mainly use it for USB and a fixed one isn’t stealable. The fixed one required no wire alteration and finally I could inexpensively and again with wiring alteration move the existing DIN to a useful (for air bed, battery and heated jacket) position below the seat and in fact still use the USB adapter as a ‘charging station’ for helmets and such during rest stops in tours for my and fellow riders helmets where they can rest on seat/panniers. At a low cost for me it’s a win-win 👍🏻
Hi Nick Not commented on your videos before but a subscriber and been 'lurking' a while! Great video, though the cost of the twin USB had me wincing a bit! I still have the original DIN plug and the optimate usb plug you showed at the beginning of the video which I find OK. Like you, I wanted a non canbus socket for accessories (mainly an air compressor) so I fitted an Optimate socket which resides under the pillion seat. Yours is a much neater solution though on the bracket. I assume you can't buy the little bracket separately? I could fabricate something but purchasing would be easier! Keep the videos coming!
Thanks for commenting. The bracket comes with wires and uses the original DIN socket. Maybe an email to Nippy Norman’s May be in order. More likely to have cables damaged faulty than a bit of metal or maybe one with a scratch. Worth a punt anyhow. Welcome along 😂
Now following your channel- really informative- thank you! Will be doing the above when my new ride arrives next week. With the relocated and wired DIN would the Optimate 4 canbus still be appropriate as the DIN runs straight from the battery? Thanks Nick.
Hey Nick, Did you fit anything like this on your older GS’s at all? I have a 2009 version which only has the din socket below the seat on the side of the bike. But looking to fit a dual usb socket in a similar place tk where you have your one here. Thanks in advance.
Maybe a daft question for you, but my girlfriend and I are going to do some longer trips next year on my 1200 GS, and was wondering, if I put the double USB socket on for charging the telephone, does it actually drain anything from the battery?? Do not want to end up stranded in the middle of Norway :-)
Hi Paul. No. The output of that ‘channel’, be it DIN or USB is controlled to a limit by the Canbus. If you re-site the DIN you can of course use more as it’s connected directly to the battery but I’d still advise it as the charging system while the bike is running is putting back far more than you could take out even with high draw heated suits let alone very low draw charging items. In ALL cases, be careful what you draw when the bike is switched off (if you have anything connected directly to battery) as the battery is pretty small and if you have a tracker too that’s on 24/7. Bit of a waffle but hope it makes sense? Ride safe 👍🏻
Hi Nick, great content! Thinking of doing this. However, how water tight are the USB ports when a USB cable is plugged in to the ports during inclement conditions? Thanks
They’re fine. Mainly as it’s in one of the driest parts of the bike. Normally the reason it stops charging when pelting down is the other (lightning connector) end and although the new iPhones are so say water-resistant. It doesn’t take much ingress of water to get the ‘charging disabled which you can override but one of your children will die’ warning. And that can last for hours 👍🏻
Hi Nick, Great video. I'm interested getting the Din relocation kit, but my local BMW dealer can't find it on their system. I don't suppose you have or could find the part number?
Mike. It’s an aftermarket part sold by Nippy Normans in the UK. (Both the USB socket to go in the factory fitted space of the DIN socket and the ‘kit’ to relocate the now redundant DIN socket under the seat as an aux power supply) 👍🏻
Hi got a heated bmw jacket that fits to the din socket via a spiral lead, this comes out the right side of the jacket so I need to put the din on the right side. The one you have fitted is it close enough to the front of the seat or set back , long winded I know but just seeing my options Cheers
Hi Scott. It’s obviously on the right side but if you look on your bike there’s a triangle in the frame just behind the battery cover on the side. Without looking I’d say it’s under the front seat and the socket faces backwards. I’d say I’d rather have the lead there than running over the tank and into the cockpit. I reckon it’d be ideal and only £20 (for the bracket and wiring (you use your DIN socket))
Hi nick, Great video. Think I am going to do the exact same thing having just got the socket for Xmas! Can I ask how you find using the optimate 4 in standard mode through the new din socket? Is it still effective? I am assuming you just switched it from canbus to standard mode and plug it in using the din connector?
Hi Liam. Exactly that. You lose a little of the Canbus feedback to the charger but she’s been plugged in ‘standard’ mode since October. When first on she charges then drops to a maintenance charge and if it senses a low voltage switches back. You’ll likely need a slightly longer bolt for the bracket (I didn’t on my GS (just) but did on the GSA) 👍🏻
Thanks. I now have the Datatool Stealth tracker which is standard with one-years subscription from BMW in the UK (mainly driven by the bikes exceeding the price level insurance companies insist on one!). I had the Datatool Trakking Adventure before but that was not Thatcham Approved although they both work well 👍🏻
Interesting suggestion. I may do one shortly as have done a couple of longer trips both camping and hotels which are different of course. Was thinking of doing a travel toolkit one 👍🏻
Great explanation as usual Nick, Just one question I have the red plug but haven't plugged it in can you tell me what it actually does ?. i'm told the dealer wont plug them in as they wont take responsibility if all goes wrong !!.
Sure. It’s the chip for the pro-riding modes. It’s standard BMW fitment if you paid for it so not sure what dealer is talking a out. You gain Dynamic Pro and Enduro Pro selectable on the TFT (rather than just Rain, Road, Dynamic and Enduro). It then further allows you to customise Dynamic and Enduro (That’s effectively the ‘pro’). You’ll know when it’s plugged in straight away as you’ll have the chip icon at top of TFT and can then customise settings for ‘wheelie control’ , suspension, etc.
Hi Nick, Great vlogs, very informative 👍 Once I have fitted both the USB & din relocation bracket, how do I change to normal charging on the optimate 4??? Thanks
Hi Matt. I guess you have the optimate 4 CANBUS edition? If so connect the crocodile clips ends to the charger in place of the DIN plug and connect them together (yes you heard that right!!). Now plug the charger in the mains and that will switch it to ‘normal’ mode. Do it again if you wish to return to Canbus mode. 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Hi Nick, I haven't actually brought it yet,but yes that will be the one I require I believe. I am just taking my first steps into the gsa world so just trying to get all the advice I can. Thanks for your time, much appreciated 👍 Ride safe!!
Hello! Could you recommend a tool set for the bmw (or bikes in general) from amazon, for example, that we could use to do basic stuff? One that is good and unexpensive enough. 😬 And the tool needed to screw the bolts knowing at which torque are we leaving them. Thanks and very nice videos !
Hi Dani. That’s tough although I may do a video on that soon. There’s only so much you can carry and some things have to be sacrificed as not important enough and too big. When I fit accessories or do stuff to my bike I separate the tools I use and decide if it’s likely I would use them roadside. It’s important you can remove your wheels, all the fairings and things to get to stuff, but stuff to work on the engine and drive are not ‘roadside’ so not worth carrying. Most BMW bolts are torx, which is why it bugs me that accessories are often hex fasterners. Quality wise take what you can afford but don’t buy cheap kits. In torx and hex key sets, look for S2 steel and get ball-end on the hex keys. In spanner’s (wrenches) use chrome vanadium steel. An adjustable will cover many wrenches but make sure there is little or no jaw play as otherwise a tool which at best gives a light grip, gives none at all. Bahco make good adjustables. Good luck
@@nickhodgeUK Thanks ! I meant to use at the garage, but you could do both sets on that video! This could be a good one? www.amazon.es/dp/B000K2PF4Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_diznFbPBQ60VJ Sorry for the insistence 😬
I do Mark as my bike was in Wednesday. It is ‘still’ 022_005_041. There is a new one due in November that according to BMW addresses “Sporadic loss of Bluetooth pairing information in the TFT instrument cluster for mobile phone and/or communication system”. I’m just trying to put together my learnings on connectivity but it’s quite a complicated, boring subject 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK thanks I picked up my new bike te excl same as yours on the 031020 and my software says 021_004_040 so to me this is not the most up to date what do you think
Hi Phil. It’s no longer set in its Canbus mode as it’s effectively connected directly to the battery via the DIN repositioning but works fine as an ‘auto’ charger. Boosts when first connected then drops to trickle. Been on 24/7 since November 👍🏻
Hi Nick, What is the real difference between the original 1250 socket and the 2 usb socket you have installed? because in the original socket you can put a 2 usb adapter, thanks
Hi Jorge. Your the 2nd to ask the same thing 🤣 here’s the reply I gave... “I have the optimate dual USB adapter but three main reasons. I mainly use it for USB and a fixed one isn’t stealable. The fixed one required no wire alteration and finally I could inexpensively and again without wiring alteration move the existing DIN to a more useful (for air bed, battery charging and heated jacket) position below the seat and in fact still use the USB adapter as a ‘charging station’ for helmets and such during rest stops in tours for my and fellow riders helmets where they can rest on seat/panniers. At a low cost for me it’s a win-win 👍🏻”
@@nickhodgeUK aaahh okok, you use the 2 usb socket next to the tft to charge iPhone or helmet for example, and the socket under the seat for the air compressor or to charge the motorcycle battery for example right? because the socket under the seat does not have Cambus and the current is not cut when you connect an air compressor for example, right?
@@jorgedelgado662 that’s correct. Without the DIN socket also being re-fitted where it is (only £20) then there would be no point and the fact the DIN is now permanently powered means helmet/phone can be charged during coffee stop 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK okok perfect thanks Nick, I was watching your video and in the video description, you indicate that you have this product: OPTIMATE O105 USB CHARGER, what do you use it for and what is it used for exactly? Thanks for your help 💪🏻💪🏻
@@jorgedelgado662 hi again Jorge. If it’s the USB adapter then I use that from the DIN socket for various things but mainly charging mobile or helmet while stopped on the road. I also sometime use it to power a go pro directly if all batteries are flat. Hope that’s what you mean. I hope shortly to have a video of our UK tour and in that you will probably see me and another rider charging our headsets from it at breakfast 👍🏻
i checked nippy norman website. thy dony hv the same replacement socket. even the link gvn is also taking to some external socket..not the "replacement" socket. can anybody guide please..
Do you mean to re-site the DIN (www.nippynormans.com/r1250gs-2018-on/nippy-normans-din-socket-relocation-kit-r1200gs-lcadventure-lc-r1250gsadventure ) or the actual USB replacement (www.nippynormans.com/r1250gs-2018-on/nippy-normans-dual-usb-socket-for-bmw-motorcycles-plug-and-play )
As John Lydgate said “You can please some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people, all of the time”. Guess it’s a thumbs down but thanks for watching 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Big thumbs up from Austria Nick. Excellent channel and fun. Why people have to be so dammed rude defeats me. Probably stupidity and or jealousy. Anyway Nick do keep up the good work :-)
@@bigt1767 thanks a lot. I do sometimes wonder but opinions make the world go around! Most are complimentary and realise I’m not a TV channel and do it for fun and to try and give people insight about a very niche subject. Glad to have all along whatever 👍🏻
Hi Nick, I've seen your video and it looked great, my compliments! I bought and assembled all the parts double USB connection and the socket relocation kit. With your excellent youtube video was doable, it did not mean much. Nippy Norman has a customer in the Netherlands ;-) I also bought a new BMW Motorrad battery charger from a local BMW dealer and then I connected my 2016 BMW R1200GS LC to the charger. I was very satisfied until at unexpected moments my engine alarm spontaneously went off and that happened not 1 time but 4 times but times at time different intervals, also in the middle of the night. The question I have for you and your followers: Am I the only one who has this experience, or are there BMW drivers who have the same experiences? And more importantly, do you have an idea of what the cause and importantly the solution is? Thank you for thinking along and keep making these videos! Best regards Rob, Gouda, The Netherlands
Hi Rob. I’ve had alarms on all my 3 GSs and the K1600 I have now. I use an Optimate 4 (Canbus version) charger on these 24/7 as it works as a trickle charger too. I also used this when I relocated the original DIN socket but changed the charger to ‘direct’ mode as that is connected directly to the battery. I have had no issues with the alarm going off. Hopefully someone can help? You may also go to the UKGSER forum and someone there may help 👍🏻
