Swarm Trap Types - Pros & Cons, What Bees Want - Swarm Trapping #1

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Part #1 in the Swarm Trapping Series. We take a look at what honeybee swarms look for in a new home, as well as examine various types of bait hives and swarm traps.
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@sunsetheritage 3 года назад

I love listening to this video. The volume of information in just this one video blows so many other Tubers out of the water. I think the best part is the fact that the trap doesn’t have to be 15 feet up in a tree like others say. Being a 49 year old woman, there’s no way I can handle climbing ladders that high with a box of bees in my arm. I can however stand on the tailgate of my Colorado without falling or breaking my neck on a ladder. Thank you 👏👏

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I’m learning to work smarter, not harder!

@beefriendlychannel7965 3 года назад

Bees prefer being off the ground because of how they fly. They don't have to climb to cruising altitude. They micromanage for efficiency.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Interesting thought. Most folks think they like being high to avoid predators.

@beefriendlychannel7965 3 года назад

@@DuckRiverHoney bears and raccoons can climb, so I'm not seeing the logic there. If you think about bees like airplanes, they save a lot of fuel if they don't have to climb as high. It saves time and energy on the departures and landings. If I had it better, I'd use a deer tree stand. They come with an attached ladder.

@akbeal 3 года назад

Very good video. I would love to see part 2 cover some different techniques for scouting for swarm trap locations. Not just typical open field tree line facing south but more of looking at google maps and finding potential areas like public access areas or places along a river or such and scouting those.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I really appreciate the feedback. I’m planning a location video but I wasn’t going to go that in depth. Now I will...it’ll make it more useful.

@nfinitymarine4466 3 года назад

I'll be interested too. I take pride in catching many swams each year. My take on it is trap design, understanding flyways where you know bees should be and deer hunting skills. I use a 40 litter 5 frame box like the design on the left. I get between 15 and 20 swarms a year. I run 14 traps. Good video.

@leahburnitt954 3 года назад

Glad I just happen to find you on RU-vid. Your video is very informative. I want to get your thoughts on something I've observed. Every trap-out I have done on bees in trees, their entrances were all facing the west. I live in southwest Louisiana and was wondering if geographic location may change a bees preference on entrance?

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

That’s interesting. Dr Seeley was doing research in the northeast so it would make sense that south facing in that climate would be more important. I doubt there’s that much genetic diversity between southern and northern bees though....probably no good answer without study.

@michaelwitt5958 3 года назад

I’m in Arkansas and found two bee trees that are about 200 yards apart facing the same field. One hive faces East and one faces North. Caught a couple of their swarms last year and hope to get more this year.

@ericklingele661 3 года назад

Awesome video! Question - can I catch swarms with all new equipment? I am going foundationless with a few waxed plastic foundations to get the bees drawing comb correctly in my regular hives. Would you think filling the swarm trap with all waxed plastic foundation or doing more of a checkerboard is a better approach? I will use a medium box with a spacer below or second empty medium. Lemongrass oil was going to be my bait. Thanks!

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

My opinion here.....use all waxed plastic foundations to get bees started drawing comb straight. Foundationless will probably work best if you insert that frame between two already drawn combs. So start them out straight on foundation and then work toward foundationless comb. New equipment will catch bees, all my traps were new last year, BUT I waxed the insides of the boxes with a roller and melted wax, and I used debris from cleaning out equipment to add bee smell to the new equipment. Lemongrass oil or swarm commander will work - I intend to use both this year and test results.

@dasfarm8 3 года назад

Is that a stormy kromer?

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

It is. I’ve got several Kromer’s. Thanks

@dasfarm8 3 года назад

@@DuckRiverHoney what a beaut. Definitely subbing

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks!

@jhulin9018 3 года назад

Outstanding video and exactly what I needed to pull it all together. Thank you for not just saying "how" or "what" you did but also giving the "why" because then I can adapt your leanings and information easily to my situation...for instance I have also standardized on one size box but it happens to be 8F deeps (7F in honey super). With the spacer concept I can just adjust the spacer to meet the bees needs/wants using my standard equipment and have an effective swarm catching season. I wish all UTube channels were as articulate, organized and thus effective as yours Thanks again!

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I appreciate it! Everyone has different needs so I try to explain things so folks can figure out what will work for them.

@doughavron 10 месяцев назад

WOW! That was very well thought out! I like the way you think and communicate your ideas and lessons learned. This will be my first year trying to catch swarms. Excited that I don't have to reinvent the wheel.

@haroldmarsh5156 6 месяцев назад

And I find Myself watching this again... Always learn something new

@nadezdacox6005 Месяц назад

I had a bee swarm in my styrofoam cooler i have set up as winter shelter for cats. It was deep in the evegreen bushes, no sun, on the ground, round opening for cats, hay i side. It was a big swarm.

@thomasrape4616 10 месяцев назад

What I use is a 10 frame shallow box with plywood bottom and one of those entrance discs. On top of that I use a 10 frame deep with 9 foundationless frames and 1 of old brood comb. A man gave me 15 shallow boxes and this seemed to be the best use I could put them to. When I catch a swarm all I need to do is set the trap where I want the bees in my bee yard for a week then when they are ready take that 10 frame deep off and sit it on a regular bottom board, done.

@johnhempstead3074 3 года назад

I have caught many swarms no more than 5 to 6 feet off the ground, and have caught swarm in a box i was working on at my shop. it was outside my door of shop with frames in it and i was building top, noticed bees coming and before i knew it they were everywhere put top on and bingo. Never had that happen again. The bee hive was setting on saw horses outside my shop door. lucky me.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Awesome story!

@scotthibbs 3 года назад

Nailed it! - Perfect video. Can't wait to see your success this year.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thank you much, I appreciate it!

@radsk5 7 месяцев назад

Last summer was the first year I tried swarm traps and it was crazy amazing

@aidanquick3151 2 года назад

Great vid. A full depth box with medium frames would give a cavity as well.

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

Yep, it works. With drawn comb for bait I don’t think the void is necessary.

@ToBeeOrNotToBeHoney 3 года назад

Nicely done, clear explanations and no random talking about unrelated issues.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks, I appreciate it!

@texla7392 3 года назад

I agree, those 23mins felt like 5mins. Very informative, knowledgeable, and to the point. Liked and subscribed within the first couple of minutes. Excited to see your channel grow!

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks for the kind words!

@ToBeeOrNotToBeHoney 3 года назад

@@texla7392 Same here, and I don't subscribe to very many feeds.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

High praise, I appreciate it.

@eddevault4604 3 года назад

Good content....I’m going to try it....I tried the locating the swarm trap high up....and it was entirely too much effort...so I’m going to use your PU truck method...and use the medium frames in a deep box also...or maybe use the deep frames in a two-medium boxes set up....Thanks....

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Awesome, give it a try!

@rickriley7018 3 года назад

WOW Young man. Really good video..... You know what you are doing How refreshing So many are wanna bee keepers and newbies. I appreciate their efforts.... that is good and i watch, but I like to find someone with some expertise. Thank you!!! RIck in mountains south western Pa.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thank you Mr. Rick! I am still learning as well, but if you ask my wife she'll tell you I'm a little obsessive about research and learning.

@SalamAli-qr3qh 3 года назад

Very informative video I appreciate it.I like to hear your thoughts about just using a deep and put medium frames in it to give them the space in the bottom.also I think your hat have some thing to do with your swarm catching success!where can I get one of them?

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I think that is a great idea. Bees will build comb off the bottom of the frames if you leave them in long enough, but those frames would still fit in a deep box, so they're usable. Keep them on the bottom and they'll be empty next spring...just scrape off the foundationless comb and put the frames into a medium box at that point if you want to.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

The hat is a Stormy Kromer. I'm a bit of an eccentric...I like hats. I wish men still wore fedoras commonly so I wouldn't look like an oddball.

@johncombs3270 3 года назад

Nice video and very informative another attractant that you can use in your bait hive is a couple hand fulls of cedar shavings they love them I’m in eastern Kentucky and have great success doing this

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Neat, I don't think I've heard that one! Thanks

@candicel3224 3 года назад

So glad RU-vid suggested this video. I've subscribed and will be following. My entire goal this year is to catch a wild swarm. I want native bees, not purchased bees. Thank you so much for all the details of what works for you.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Awesome, thanks! Good luck trapping. It’s a ton of fun.

@smainebelhadi1193 3 года назад

Thanks for the video . Lot of information. My suggestion is to use a medium sized box With all frames in it. The frames should have only one inch strips, leaving lots of space between the strips and the bottom of the frames. The bees will have no other choice but to start building those strips down.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

That may well work...one reason I use the spacer is because a single medium is only about 32L, which is a bit smaller than I’m targeting.

@sunsetheritage 3 года назад

Swarm catching is definitely something I hope to get the opportunity to do this spring. Thank you for the video!!!

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I appreciate it Lorie!

@Ramdinohikes 2 года назад

How far from my apiary should I place my trap to catch my own swarms?

@benca6151 3 года назад

The one lowest to the ground, I made a bunch of those last year. Caught 3 swarms with them. Another tip, find someone who is a beekeeper and go to one of their neighbors down the road. Put the traps up there. You'll catch the swarms. Its fun and free.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Good deal! I’ve got about 20 or 21 out now, nearing the end of my line rollout.

@ttomthumb 3 года назад

Thanks for the videos Nathan. Just watched them again to see what i missed the first time. Headed to the shed to start ripping boards for the hangers and spacers. Cant wait to see how my traps work and to watch your checks with you. Looking forward to your videos. Thank you.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks!

@WhatsTheBuzz 3 года назад

Good information! Been out of beekeeping for many years but starting back up this year. Back in the "old days" we never had these types of resources and had to learn on our own.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Bees are so complex it’d be hard to learn enough on your own. I think there are bad things about tech, but the ability to learn is one of the biggest benefits.

@HiveRobbers-Honey 3 года назад

Very good video. I use the Swarm box that you got the highest in the tree I've got about 15 of them I catch about 10 a year. I like to dissolve propolis in rubbing alcohol and then paint it on the inside of the boxes it gets rid of the new Lumber smell. I always have one empty swarm box so that when I take a full one out of the tree I immediately hang the empty back up.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks!

@TheMimiSard 18 дней назад

Bees are the most absolutely voluntary farming animal in existence. This video offers an aspect of that voluntary nature - put out a good hive box, bees will take up residence. Trap a swarm and put them in a hive box, if they like it, they stay. But if they don't like it, they will avoid, or abandon it.

@atomic1783 6 месяцев назад

Facing South obviously pertains to the Northern hemisphere. In the Southern hemisphere facing North would be optimal.

@MistressOnyaCox Год назад

It's cheap n easy, like myself, to make frames for 5gal bucket traps.. Jus Sayin.. 😜😜

@DuckRiverHoney Год назад

Thanks

@colette8694 2 года назад

So glad to you’re recommending books by Thomas D. Seeley. He along persuaded me to be a treatment free beekeeper. Love his scientific research 🐝

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

Thanks Colette, how long have you been TF? Is it going well?

@colette8694 2 года назад

@@DuckRiverHoney I started beekeeping in 2015 I have been treatment free ever since and yes it is going well 💪 Sam Comfort is another brilliant treatment free commercial Beekeeper I follow 🐝

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

Very cool Collette, I think TF is upper level beekeeping. Difficult to succeed, depending on circumstances.

@Ramdinohikes 2 года назад

What is the best position for trapping a swarm from my own apiary? How far away? orientation of the opening?

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

Anywhere from 100 feet to 1/4 mile away works well. South or east facing entrances I think are preferred but that’s not the most important factor.

@Ramdinohikes 2 года назад

@@DuckRiverHoney tks for the reply. Is it ok if its not on their flight path? I have my colony in a field edge so ill have to put the trap laterally to keep it in the shade. laterally would not be in their flight path since they typically fly right out of the hive body into the field rather than taking a 90 degree turn from the hive and going into the wood line.

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

They’ll find it, especially with a little swarm commander or lemongrass oil.

@Ramdinohikes 2 года назад

@@DuckRiverHoney tks, enjoying the channel. You put out some good info. I had abut 12 colonies 6 years ago. Then I took a year off to build a house and they all died but one. I left it totally alone for 4 years. NO treatments, manipulation etc. The weeds even grew up in front of the entrance. I went back and it still had bees so I fixed the yard and decided if it is that strong it must have good DNA, so I am not treating it at all. I've got a lot of woodenware so I decided I wanted to get back into it on a smaller scale. Course the problem with bees is you wind up getting bigger and bigger due to splits and people calling you to harvest swarms.

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

Good luck with that hive, treatment free is a numbers game, expect 5 to 70% losses in any given year.

@beemanrunning977 3 года назад

So many excellent ideas! I also use only mediums for brood and supers and this style of swarm trap will be perfect. Transferring a swarm to the beeyard couldn't be any easier. Thanks!

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Yep, for the all medium system especially it makes a ton of sense

@paulabal6287 3 года назад

This video was well done, we want to try a swarm trap(s) this year. Do you use lemongrass or swarm commander?

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I'm using both this year as a test. The second video in the series covers how I set them up and bait them in detail. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4VMcReBWWtw.html

@seedsandarrowsfrontier9224 3 года назад

Great video!! I caught my swarm last year in an 8 frame deep. I will also bee using the 5 gallon bucket this year just because i can get them for free. Good luck this spring!

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks, and you too!

@brunosturm Год назад

Okay I subscribed your channel and hope for interesting content. Last summer I cached two colonies of yellow jaket and one colonie bees.

@fredvillines7818 3 года назад

I like the idea of standardizing the size to medium and using different block outs to adjust for size. I would wonder if a swarm box could be constructed from a brood box (I'm sure my ignorance is revealed)? It would seem that this would not only enable the catch but simplify moving, placement and addition of harvest-able comb in the upper assembly add-on. It does raise a question of re-usability. I would like to see detailed plans for your design.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I covered some detail in this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VjbCC8k4JoM.html

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Spacers are pretty simple. A deep box with medium frames would work fine as well.

@edwardmccann3877 Год назад

@@DuckRiverHoney ❤

@edwardmccann3877 Год назад

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@jeanninedoyle5393 3 года назад

liked the video very much, you covered everything i needed to know about swarm hives , especially not breaking my 71 year old neck climbing a ladder installing or removing my trap, Thank you

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

That's awesome! I sure hope it helps. Good luck.

@ocurryfarm4816 3 года назад

Could you do a video on your collapsible swarm trap holder

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

This one covers it fairly well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VjbCC8k4JoM.html

@ocurryfarm4816 2 года назад

@@DuckRiverHoney they work great. Got 4out5 from my bait hives thank you for information

@anneniles3156 3 года назад

very good video!

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I appreciate it!

@zulikkowalski3547 11 месяцев назад

That was some F'ed up research by Dr. Sealy

@hockinghillshoneyfarm9273 3 года назад

Great video I really love swarm trapping too.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks Dave, I can’t wait to get traps out.

@PingHansen 2 года назад

Top-notch! This video is well researched, well presented, and well reasoned. It contains some very practical advice based on experience, as well as relevant information about the whys. I am very partial to channels that don't just take a newly hatched, half-cooked idea and present it in a video without ever having tried it first. This video nails it 🤩 My own traps consist of one or two Warré boxes, a lid, and an eke with an entrance hole and a piece of plywood as floor. Everything is made out of discards, so the total cost is some nails. The upper box has eight top bars with vax strips, so the bees can measure the full volume of the trap while still being guided to build the comb my way - mostly.😉 I do like your foldable platform and will be adapting it. I have a few traps on flat roofs, where I place the trap on a cement tile and tie the whole thing together with baling wire. Thank you!

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

Thanks, I appreciate it!

@hoptoi Месяц назад

Great information! Thank you!

@tennheadshot3539 3 года назад

Great video and excellent information. Dr. Seely wrote the book on swarm catching and if you follow his criteria, you will catch swarms!

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks!

@BlanchardsBees 3 года назад

I love catching swarms!🐝🐝🐝🐝

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

It’s a ton of fun and very exciting checking the line....can’t wait!

@3Beehivesto300 3 года назад

Great video. Kind of off topic. Have you ever used the nuc boxes that brushy mountain had??? What is you preferred Nuc box for transporting and growing nucs???

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I'm using medium 10 frames supers with a double cap and ladder frame feeder (1 gallon) and 8 frames as a nuc box. 5 deep frames is roughly equal to 7.5 medium frames, so this system allows me to use the same boxes for my swarm trap, nuc box, hive body, and honey super.

@timmiller2192 3 года назад

Built 18 traps last winter. Didn’t catch a single swarm. 🥴. I have the 5 frame upright model.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

That’s a hard pill to swallow. Hopefully you’ll have better luck this year.

@stanleyray4085 3 года назад

I enjoy your videos, very good information but I prefer Layens hives over Lanfstroth hives.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Layens are neat for sure. I wouldn’t mind one or two.

@randallmuir5570 3 года назад

I use both deeps and mediums. Toward the end of the video I came to understand that you use strictly mediums. But at first the question went through my mind, if you want space underneath the frames, why not make your trap out of a deep, but load it with medium frames? Not practical for you since you have no deeps, but would you agree that would work just fine for somebody like me who does have deep boxes available? Thanks for the good info which was well presented.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Yes, I think that would work great. If you leave them in it a while they’ll build foundationless comb off the bottom of the medium frames, but they would still fit in a deep.

@paulgibson8056 3 года назад

Outstanding! I’m just getting started, and this is the most helpful (for me) swarm trap video I’ve found. Thank you for producing this video.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Awesome, I really appreciate the encouraging words!

@seaturtle7777 5 месяцев назад

Excellent video. I like your theory about a possible correlation between bait box and swarm sizing. Subscribed.

@DuckRiverHoney 5 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@mooseman5837 3 года назад

Good video but what about attractant, what do you use and how often. Also do you put frames in with out drawn comb or new frames with wax foundation or plastic wax coated frames.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Baiting will be an entire video. I caught 7 swarms with 5 traps last year so what I did works but I’ll experiment with a few different things this year.

@srae1503 3 года назад

If you live in a rural area and don’t know of any backyard bee keepers in your area for 10 miles, is it hard to find wild swarms? How will I figure out were to put a swarm trap?

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I’ll do a video on locations, but if you’re in a rural area and have blocks of trees mixed with fields and pastures, I bet you’ve already got feral colonies there. In the woods, shaded, but near a field edge is a good starting point.

@billiamc1969 3 года назад

The best lure is to paint the interior of the box with propolis tincture and at the entrance all around the opening and at least 1/2 of a frame of blackish comb inside, moths are not active until summer so using comb is perfectly fine. Height doesn't make much difference. I am an urban Baltimore naturalist beekeeper who does 2 dozen removals every season and I catch about the same amount of swarms. Our 150 colonies are surrounded by reclaimed swarm traps.I find summer secondary swarms have more success than spring swarms in that there are far fewer health issues.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Interesting. Do you collect propolis from dedicated traps or just save it from scraping woodenware? Are you diluting it in vodka or something else to make the tincture? I've heard of people doing something similar with dead queens. Thanks!

@candace3676 3 года назад

Wonderful! Able to download a PDF of Honey Bee Democracy! Thank you for helping us understand Bees better.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

The free PDF is actually the publication Bait Hives for Honeybees. Honeybee Democracy you'd have to purchase. It's a nice book, worth reading. Thanks for watching, and for the comment!

@mcmillan357 3 года назад

Really great information. I been using the same bait give literature w no success. I use medium supers so this helps me rethink and retool my approach. Thanks much.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I’ll cover locations and baiting pretty thoroughly in the series. I also plan a weekly swarm trap line series. Time and schedule allowing!

@ham2637 3 года назад

Great communication and explaining. Very helpful. Thanks.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words.

@Mandbec 4 месяца назад

Very helpful thank you!

@vigab9601 3 года назад

I hang and take down swarm traps using a climbing tree stand that I use for deer hunting. I use a rope to haul up the trap and a rope to lower it down. The tree stand provides a stable platform to hang the trap in the tree. I want my traps high to discourage theft.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I did the same last year and plan to this year as well. That’s the exception I make for ladders since I don’t have to carry the trap up and down the ladder. It won’t be long now!

@barrybrum 2 года назад

Great videos, highly informative. I just subscribed to your channel.

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

Thanks Brumfield

@tommyschlegel5653 Год назад

I'm curious. I'm planning on building bait hives using deep frames so I can easily transfer the bees after I catch them. Is there a reason you're using medium frames? Also, how long after the colony moves in, do you pull the trap? How long do you allow them to establish.

@tommyschlegel5653 Год назад

Okay. I watched the entire viseo...I now know you use medium frames for everything. THANKS

@richarddriggers9791 3 года назад

It's not about the survival of the hive. It's about the survival of the colony!

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I use hive and colony a bit interchangeably.

@stefkadank-derpjr1453 3 года назад

All my best traps have been facing EAST getting first morning sun but protection from full mid-day sun (I'm in Georgia and it gets hot, hot, hot).

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I believe entrance direction is a factor, but not the biggest factor. Cavity size, entrance size & location, hive site, and presence of bee smell matter the most.

@wwoutdoors7300 2 года назад

When you made this video. It’s was affordable. The price of lumber is outrageous now.

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

I bought medium supers last fall from an Amish man instead of Mann Lake. It’s tough to find fair deals right now, but they’re out there.

@hornbakeracres9650 3 года назад

Very interesting video. You covered information I have not seen talked about in other videos. Just subscribed so look forward to watching your other videos.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks, I appreciate it!

@wing-itbeeco.9336 3 года назад

do you have the instructions on how to build your folding trap hanger, the one with the hinge and cable?

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

This video covers the main details. The design should be changed based on your needs and materials. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VjbCC8k4JoM.html

@walterkersting6238 2 года назад

I’ve noticed how much bees like lemon pledge. If I don’t have any lemon grass oil I’m just gonna use lemon pledge because I think it’s likely the same stuff…

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

I think the formulas probably different, but if the other factors line up it could still work.

@woodlandharvesthoneycompanyllc 3 года назад

I'm thinking you could use a hive body and put medium frames in it. That would supply the void and you wouldn't need a spacer.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

You can. I run all mediums and don't have any deeps. Also, it's easier for me to pull the spacer and just set the medium down on a bottom board. Several ways to accomplish the same thing based on what equipment you use.

@davidmyers7048 Год назад

would using 10 medium frames in a deep 10 frame box work and give enough empty space?

@DuckRiverHoney Год назад

Yes, that makes a very good swarm trap.

@gondebas 2 года назад

23:19 Hi, what is the difference between primary swarms and cast swarms? Which on do you value better?

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

Primary swarm has the mother / mated queen. A cast or secondary swarm would have a virgin (or multiple virgins).

@Spenvalleyhoney 3 года назад

Does this system work with mesh floor and standard crown board and roof?

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Good question, the answer...probably varied and nuanced. You want to provide what the bees see as their BEST option for a nest site. Some beekeepers see that bees don’t prefer screened bottom boards, even though they do well on them, especially in hot climates. We do know they are cavity dwellers and prefer a “light tight” nest. So I bet you can catch swarms on a screened bottom board, but I also bet it would be second choice to a solid bottom. It’s all about what the bees see as BEST. Personally, I’m using solids to catch them, then moving them to whatever I want.

@jonhatchcirclejfarms1628 2 года назад

If you put 3 entrances on a swarm trap. 1 on each side, and then put the round aluminum entrance cover on. Would it make that trap universal so you would have 3 chances to put the active entrance facing south. Or would it deter bees from using it?

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

Entrance facing south is a preference, but not the biggest one in my opinion. Three entrances would make the trap more costly and fiddly to use, so it wouldn’t be something I would do.

@CPMJunkRemoval 8 месяцев назад

The video angle swapping is killing me! But it got you a comment. I guess I have a better attention span then some.

@DuckRiverHoney 8 месяцев назад

Lol thanks

@HanginOutWithStan 3 года назад

Very interesting and informative Nathan! Thank you for sharing the link to this with me.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

No problem, thanks for the kind words!

@marvinfrederick7307 Год назад

Thanks new at beekeeping my first time. I hope to catch a swarm to save on buying bees video was educational

@DuckRiverHoney Год назад

Thanks!

@lm386opamp 3 года назад

Thank you for the book recommendations!

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

You’re welcome, thanks for the comment!

@lm386opamp 3 года назад

@@DuckRiverHoney you bet! The book Honeybee Democracy is available as a free PDF download via some colleges. I get my first package next month, the family and I are assembling our hive and stand today after breakfast.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

That’s awesome, it’s a great book. Have fun!

@HeatherSaltas 3 года назад

Question..how come you say the 2 traps on the left are single use? Is it because of the materials? What makes them single use?

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Single purpose is what I should have said. The super and spacer style I can use as a honey super, nuc, swarm trap, or hive body. The other style is ONLY a swarm trap.

@gregcrenshaw4242 3 года назад

Wow! Great information! I learned several new things.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Awesome, I’m glad!

@buddyblack9801 3 года назад

Great share of information! Thanks so much. Looking forward to swarm season.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks, I appreciate it!

@michaelpariera4328 3 года назад

Can you show or have plans for the trap holder with the cables?

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Scrap wood from 20 to 25” lengths..... eyeballed the construction. The bottom needs to be 20ish inches long by 17+ish inches wide, top part 20ish inches tall with a crossbar 17+ish inches wide. I literally eyeballed it after the first 5. Doesn’t have to be fancy.

@offshoot1008 2 года назад

Great info . Will a yellow jacket make use of a empty nuke box?

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

I know that paper wasps will, not sure about yellow jackets.

@ME_MeAndMyBees 3 года назад

Watching Duck River Honey, with my House Duck on my lap (pet runner duck🦆) Via RU-vid To see how I can master Swarm Traps. When I don't have Woods, tools, a ladder or a Truck to stand on. Yikes ! Will I capture anything off my small garden shed roof using a Correx Nuc Box, (just within placement reach hopefully !) So far my x1 Hive hasn't swarmed in 2020... Maybe a Split might be easier in Spring 2021. 😉

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Lol, MMB, I do believe you’ve got a sense of humor I can relate to.

@ME_MeAndMyBees 3 года назад

I'm just Quackers ! Love having 🐝's 🦆's and 🐔's. Have watched several Vids tonight and Subbed! 👍

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks

@byronholt4912 Год назад

As someone just starting out most of this was WAY over my head. Gotta catch up.

@DuckRiverHoney Год назад

It’s a lot when you’re starting. But the climb is worth it!

@m.scotthern6306 3 года назад

It goes against your no ladder rule but coincides with using things in the off season. I set a swarm trap on my nephew's deer hunting ladder stand in March and take it down in August before bow season. It's on my property so I don't have to worry about theft. And it is secured to the tree. Works well.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I did the same last year and will do the same this year....I make an exception to the ladder rule for ladder stands because I can lower the trap down to the ground with a tow strap and hook, so I don't have to climb the ladder while holding it. Works great! Thanks for watching and for the comment.

@petermurless6891 3 года назад

Im doing the same in Sweden, it

@gpendrak 3 года назад

Thanks for the great video. One question - you imply that a small swarm will not go into a large trap. Is that what you meant?

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I’ll never say never on bees. They’re too variable. What I will say is I tended to catch smaller 1-2 frame swarms in small traps and bigger 3-4 frame swarms in bigger traps. There are very few hard and fast rules with bees, but my experience makes me want to offer multiple sizes of traps in case a particular swarm wants a bigger or smaller house.

@gpendrak 3 года назад

@@DuckRiverHoney Thank you - for the quick reply and the great video. Waiting anxiously for the nest one.

@bobmcarthur5468 2 года назад

Thankyou, I will be following along and trying this just as you say.

@DuckRiverHoney 2 года назад

Good luck Bob!

@Lsmith-ly2cm Год назад

Great video thank you very much , very informative.

@DuckRiverHoney Год назад

👍

@jodyreeder4820 3 года назад

Another thing to keep in mind, "bee" careful of what wood you use, bees are sensitive, and you don't want something that can harm them.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

As long as it isn’t creosote or arsenic treated I don’t worry too much. They have probably wont be in the trap long enough to pollute wax.

@jodyreeder4820 3 года назад

@@DuckRiverHoney Well i heard cedar can have some affects too

@frankkilkelly6393 3 года назад

Really great presentation, great information, delighted to have come across you.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks! I appreciate the kind words. Hope to shoot part 2 on baiting traps in the next few days.

@indsov2010 3 года назад

The video I've been trying to find for 2 years! Thanks so much! Does anyone else feel there is a need/chance for a business model built on a traveling "swarm master". Meaning you come to my 20 acre farm in Allardt, TN, spend 4 hours with me teaching me swarm knowledge including placement and construction of traps on said 20 acres, and I pay you $60/hr. I have 95% of the equipment and probably 80 % of the tools to accomplish my goal of catching 2-3 swarms this spring. This is my 3rd year beekeeping, and caught no swarms with 2 traps out last year.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Thanks! I used to live in Maryville and would have driven up, but you’re a haul away now. Swarms aren’t that hard, but they are persnickety....you just have to be very detailed in what you give them.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

@walterkersting6238 2 года назад

That’s all fancy...

@soflynnobrien 3 года назад

Can you also do a video on the "new style" bait box support brace

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I've got a vlog style video shot of me making some spacers and platforms....just need time to edit.

@herbramsey3375 3 года назад

I like your last traps u can just put them in the hive I like that I live in Washington state it different have

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

They work pretty easy. Thanks!

@sonofthunder. 3 года назад

i use swarm commander, and some used comb,...its almost time

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I do the same. Planning to test the Mann Lake slow release lure this year as well as lemongrass oil against swarm commander.

@kentcostello8099 3 года назад

Do you dip all your equipment in wax and do you dip your swarm traps?

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

I’m not set up to wax dip, though I believe that is a great way to do it. I paint exteriors on equipment. On swarm traps I roll the inside with wax. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4VMcReBWWtw.html

@herbramsey3375 3 года назад

I am just being gening into beekeeping an I was wondering how u get the bees out 9f the bee traps to the bee hives that trap make it easy I like it

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

You close up the entrance after dark or early morning when all the bees are home and move them. If you move them several miles it’s actually simpler than if you move them a short distance.

@beewize9982 3 года назад

thank you for the info =)

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Welcome! I’ll have #3 up in the next few days. Working on the edit now.

@beewize9982 3 года назад

@@DuckRiverHoney sounds good

@mikesbeesllc 3 года назад

Great video. I use the 5 & 6 frame type like yours with deep frames. I don't use medium frames except for honey. I carry 2 spare traps on my truck in swarm season to replace those that catch swarms. I take them to my "swarm" yard and hive with a queen extruder over bottom board if I see no eggs. Then this swarm trap becomes one of my spares on my truck. For the past 2 years I have caught 12 swarms and quit for the year as it strains my equipment inventory. This year if the swarm is not super huge I am going to combine every 2 that I catch and replace queen with my own stock. Good luck with your swarm catching this year and I will be watching. Thanks

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Awesome feedback. I’m planning a video - “Why Catch Swarms?” You and I think alike....swarms are like a multitool. Use them to build comb, increase hive count, reserve queens, or boost existing hive populations during the flow. Lots of ways to use them.

@mikesbeesllc 3 года назад

@@DuckRiverHoney One thing I was going to mention. Check traps at least weekly and open the trap to check for paper wasp or mud dobbers. Honey bees will not go in if there are wasps in the trap.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Nice tip, thanks! I haven’t seen wasps yet but will keep watch.

@matthewklump7586 3 года назад

I made the same decision last spring no more landers. Al mine are 4' to 6' off the ground. I also run a solid bottom board, empty medium on bottom and a full deep on top with two old brood frames. I caught 7 swarms last year 5 from the same tree.

@DuckRiverHoney 3 года назад

Wow that’s a good spot! What was the timeframe? One after the other?

@matthewklump7586 3 года назад

@@DuckRiverHoney i kept two traps on the same fence line. just in case of a virgin swarm. it was from mid may until mid july

@petermurless6891 3 года назад

One can land on the ground when falling off a lander.