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this was by far the best demonstration ive see. learned so much. way better than some of those others who work for festool have given with thier fake enthusiam. this was very educational . thank you
Great vid. Bought a rotex 125cm a few days ago and I’m blown away by its quality and performance. Absolutely amazing, bar none. And indeed, as long as you keep the pad flat, there’s literally no dust!
great video 👍 but just one little detail ...... i work with both carpentry and and detailing ( most carpentry theese days) and the woolpad is most agressive of all pads when polishing a carpaint . i use it only whit the toughest polising compunds , its like a 4-5000 grit ish... then i go up to the softer sponge pads i have done it for like 20 years or so using mostly festool / Meguiars and some 3M // Joachim O.
I love my festool saves me tons of time sanding and the dust collector is awesome dust free sanding no dust in occupied homes thank you festool for a good long-lasting tool
if he wanted to really show the work he would have wet the wood or mention tht a cleaning rubber stick is good to save some pads. but then again at 10:11 he says: keep the pad flat on the surface... and that show that he is just using the sander for carpentry. for cabinetry you use a croissant shape area of the pad to avoid swirls and sand with grain starting right around 180. neither does he mention that rotary and excentric sanding are not done at the same speed. and neither does he mention that orbital excentric for carpenter is not the same as for cabinet maker or automotive sanding. Ever heard of 3/16 and 3/32 orbital swing. Its unfortunately a feature that is not offer by the bosch, Makita, festool polyvalent sanders. but soon if they want to reach out the professional that have the money for these tools.
Have you ever used it to sand a door? I am sanding some interior doors and then staining them. Used a palm sander that left swirls. Veneer may be one that can only be done by hand since it scratches really bad when you cross the grain. And all of the sanders will cross the grain. Thank you.
So when do you use the random orbital mode. If the rotex mode can do everthing that you have just demonstrated whats the point of having a dual mode sander
Hi Larry how does this stack up to a stroke sander on large pieces eg 3 meters 1.2 meters or 10 ft by 4ft would be looking using for finishing work as go down too 400 grit on the stroke sander
this video is very helpful, thanks. but i was wondering, you seem to use the Rotex mode for everything, but when do you use one mode vs the other? When do you use the traditional DA random orbit sander mode?
I aasked ChatGPT 🙂 Here are the general guidelines for when to use the Rotex mode versus the traditional dual action mode: *Rotex (Aggressive Rotary) Mode* - Material Removal: When you need to remove material quickly, the Rotex mode offers aggressive sanding. It's ideal for rough sanding, stripping paint, or removing stock. - Polishing: The Rotex mode can also be used for polishing tasks when paired with the appropriate pads and polishing compounds. - Surface Preparation: Before applying finishes, sometimes a more aggressive sanding is needed to flatten the wood or to remove previous finishes, and the Rotex mode can be handy for these tasks. *Traditional Dual Action (Random Orbital) Mode* - Finish Sanding: After the initial aggressive sanding, the random orbital mode is used to smooth out the surface. This mode minimizes swirl marks and provides a finer finish. - Veneers and Delicate Materials: The random orbital action is gentler, which makes it suitable for veneers and other delicate materials where you don't want to risk removing too much material. - Between Coats: When sanding between coats of finish, the random orbital mode provides a gentle abrasion that promotes adhesion for the subsequent coat. It's worth noting that while the Rotex offers the advantage of both modes in one machine, a dedicated DA sander might provide a smoother operation in its specific mode due to its sole focus on that function. If you're considering a Rotex sander, its versatility can be beneficial, especially if you're working in various applications and need the flexibility of both aggressive and fine sanding. However, always refer to the specific tool's manual and the project's requirements before deciding on the appropriate mode or tool.
lovely and thank you for this presentation. Now show us how not to get swirls when using RTS/DTS 400 and please explain why they are called finishing sanders??
Sure you can go from 40 to 80 to 150 very easy. I am a floor sander and I know about sanding . Specially with a machine like that you don't need to go 40,60,80 you can go 40 then 80 for good.
I don't use my rotex up into the higher grits- I'll have to try it. However, I see differences in sheen across the board due to his sanding pattern. I don't when I'm using the RA setting at a similar grit. I also spend longer on the board. Of course, it's hard to tell when something is on camera and you can't hold it up to the light, or rub your hand across it and look closely.
@@jamesmurray5345 rotary blows up the orbital sanding to a 3/16 sanding effect. the orbital gets it down to 3/32 orbital. research it sanding is trickier than that.
Larry i recently purchased a RO150 and am having problems sanding out a butcher block. When i use the sander it has a tendency to want to jump or run on me. i tried both dual modes and the same thing....i then tried to adjust speed and suction on my ct36 and still wants to jump any suggestions or ideas????
Try holding your back hand further back. It's a balancing act with the big beast. Get the balance right and it will not jump and run away on you. That said hold on tight as the ro 150 is a beast
Bid Budy Full power all the time. Ive been sanding and re finishing floors at the high end of the market for over a decade and have never wished the vac to be lower than full! Hope this helps
ON high the vac creates enough suction to pull the sander into the material too hard and cause swirls. Manual says vac on low and it works really well on low.
and don't mention nothing about the croissant shape area of the pad to sand with the grain or that on orbital you can choose between 3/16 and 3/32 sander? The different rotation speed you should switch to from 60/120 and 220/600? or the rubber stick that can clean the pads to save them for shear wasting...
He buggered it up with too much pressure and lifting in rotex. You can see the buzz mark left at 7.14. Thats why he didnt show you the final polished product in my opinion. Rotex is the bollocks tho. Ive "edged" so many floors in high end jobs that its ridiculous. And then blending in while the screener also blends in gives it a flawless finish. Superb piece of kit
Hey man. I need to refinish the floors in a couple of bedrooms in my house. Do you think I would be able to use the Festool rotex to do the job? I would rather buy the festool than rent a floor sander.
Not showing the finished product at the end was quite an unfortunate oversight. We just kinda have to take his word that there weren't any sanding defects, and that the polishing/buffing made beautiful work. 🤷
mau mempunyai usaha perkayuan...dengan alat-alat yang modern, tetapi tidak punya modal buat beli peralatan...saya suka alat-alat dari festool...ada yang gratis tidak ya
I hope that by this time you have learned that you can lower the volume of the recorded audio at certain points during your videos. For example, when running a loud tool. A tool we may want to wear heating protection when using in our shop or business. In this case, we are wanting to hear the person speaking and the relevant presentation of information, and then every fifteen seconds we are blasted by the 150db whine of the tool, for an unknown length of time. Turn volume down, turn volume back up when the speaking resumes, then back down when the tool whine starts back up again. You can do this with FREE software, btw.
Larry I hope the quality control in the sanders is better than the routers! Very disappointing at this price point and festool customer service was the same! Sorry
Majority of people who hate on festool, have never used a festool and don't realize the results you can achieve when you pair the dust extractor with a festool sander, saw, etc. They just see the price and think thats crazy i can get the same kinda tool in my local supply chain store for $80. When you rely on tools to make a living you will understand... Its a sound investment
James Williams I must admit that I don't really care where it comes from. I've got tools from all over the planet. In the end what matters to me is effectiveness and reliability.
So the entire time he keeps saying “but wait till you see the finished product”... Then, he doesn’t show the finished product.... I would never buy, just because of this video... Waste of my time.
I wonder why Festool is so insanely expensive given that they make mediocre quality tools. If you're familiar with AvE's channel, he has broken down several of their tools and shown the stupidity and the cheesiness that went into the design and part choices. It's weird that they're able to rape people so easily. But then again, many high priced cars sell easily and score the poorest ratings in Consumer Reports or other evaluators.
TasteMyStinkhole why? I am an adult. Obviously you are not. I like some festool tools, but not all of them. Anyone like you who makes blanket statements either is talking shit, or talking shit. Child.
@@randycone77 You didn't adress my point dumbie. You just thumbsucked. Why is Festool so insanely expensive given that they make mediocre quality tools. And I didnt pull a rabbit out of my ass, I gave you evidence you can view for yourself. Many blanket statements are true, for example, Caucasian people have lighter colored skin than Native Americans. Are you tryimg to prove you are stupid? Hey, as a 50 year old man (look at my channel), I'll take your word for it
Joe Framer I can do better work than most you people with Ryobi tools you haven't asked me what my experience is or what I do but you're claiming to know what type of quality I can pull out of a tool that's made out of mostly plastic but charges four times the amount and people who make their tools out of magnesium and aluminum.... How do you feel about yourself now,?
Joe Framer Joe framer my name on Gmail is mr. Builder man you frame I build and project plan for the entire scope of large-scale jobs... Try again brother and try hard I will counter you your ass cannot beat my math better believe it
Joe Framer I'm a finish carpenter and I could do quality work with Harbor Fright or Ryobi. However, those brands don't last and feel cheap in the hands. As one gets older and has a bit of money some like to purchase tool that feel good in the hand and have features that aren't available in other brands. Thank goodness we have the choice as to how much we want to spend. Harbor Fright, Festool or anything in between. Isn't that wonderful?
It’s funny because of his own insecurities, he (D Thomas W) feels the need to comment on a video by mentioning how good he is. I always find the more people need to tell others how good or badass they are, the more they really aren’t. So the fact you felt like telling us all how good you are three different times.....you stick to DeWalt my friend.
