Switch's Rayman Legends: Definitive Edition Is Not Really Definitive 

its pretty good now

It's really good now, always constant 60fps and loading times are just enough to get the extra heart

It’s a perfect game

And that's not even the most impressive compression of all time Resident evil 2 on n64 is Ps1-1.4 gb n64-64 mb

Mike NX I really don't know how it works when it's 2D art rather than 3D models....

Mike NX Switch has a great compression system, that's why games file sizes are smaller.

well we are seeing the effects of that though. i much rather have no loading times then waiting 20 seconds per level. also it hurts performance.

that was too unexpected haha

LuLu it will be patch!

LuLu Ahahaha. You made my day, sir!!!

And they did... including reduced loading times, removing glitches and bugs

People who don't do much in their lives like to put other people/things down as it tricks their brain into thinking they're important.

Lol

Samuel McConen The team behind Mario+rabbids (Ubisoft Milan) is the best Ubisoft team.

Nintendo probably told Ubisoft to keep the file size small for the sake of storage space and it will make physical versions cheaper to make because smaller capacity cartridges can be used.

Matthew Schantz Nintendo didnt tell them to make the file smaller lol. Ubisoft did it to cheap out so that they dont have spend more money on a higher capacity cart. The physical version is still $40, which is a ripoff. The game worth less than $10 on other platforms.

Bananni Morandi No, Ubisoft Reflections, the team, behind the Driver franchise is the best! Seriously, Driver San Francisco was a fucking masterpiece! Still is.

No they weren't. That game is like Mickey Mouse x The Emoji Movie.

It is the best version cause the game is great? Are y9u serious? While i think that is also the better version, do not forget something... THAT COULD APLLIES TO ANY VERSION S WITH THAT ARGUE, like, the Ps3 one is better cause it is this game, do you see...?

@@mauriciominicuci6544 According to the patch notes, they addressed the FPS and the loading times. So, I guess it's the best version because it has more content, but still you're not missing a lot.

Most true comment on this entire page.

Walther Penne Except the Switch has a touchscreen and is a console/handheld hybrid.

Michel Pereira If there was a new Rayman 2D, I would name it.. Rayman Ancients

Michel Pereira Ubisoft Montpellier are too busy devlopping beyond good and evil 2 but in Michel Ancel's instagram he said that once he will be done with bg&e2 he would start to work on Rayman "fourth adventure".

Rayman Legends had "lukewarm sales at best". That's not usually enough to justify a sequel

Zippy Ragu same

Me too

Nope

I couldn't give a rats ass about any of this either. I thought it was going to be game-breaking issues like it was running at 8fps or it was going to be that it was only 3/4 the original.

@@darknon the framerate literally drops in the video, if you don't watch it of course you're still paying for bad ports of games

After the PS2 and Dreamcast ports of that game, every subsequent release of Rayman 2 became worse.

Biggest Ubisoft Lie!

Beyond Good and Evil 2 and I'm glad Ancel is working on that instead.

Nah son. We need a 3rd Ubiart Rayman game to cap off Origins and Legends as a perfect trilogy. Mainline Rayman series is light, but Rayman 2 was cool on Dreamcast.

@@megamanx1291 Well..

Rayman 4: It's About Time ...wait, hang on.

Would love to see an uncompressed mode. I have a 64 GB SD card in my switch. I could afford 9GB if it would eliminate the loading times.

I don's think the compression alone is the issue. The PS Vita version is 1.2 GB (at 960x544) and it runs faster with few frame rate drops but it also seems to be optimized specifically on that system. It looks like here they just took the Wii game, compressed it and didn't modify it for the system hardware which shouldn't have taken long at all.

Actor Adam Anouer the vita version probally have lower quality assests. Switch version uses same assets as wii u and ps4 version

Maroom They all use exactly the same assets but at completely different resolutions. It's like in that Vanquished video, the assets are exactly the same but the filtering and the resolutions are wildly different. The Vita version does have aliasing across shadows but aside from that it's largely very good in performance.

It'd be nice to have the option. If all you have is the 32GB internal then you'll want it to be less than 3GB. If you have a 128GB+ SD card though then you'd choose uncompressed.

Yes

Vita

YES

Yeah, uplay can go to hell.

fucking pirate a copy you own it so who cares i do ot with all ubi games for a reason

9 GB become to 2 GB, i think that was great (with that small memory)...

+Lost Damned Ubisoft should have field tested their compression performance thoroughly first. If it meant better peformance, then 4-6 GiB would have been preferable. Or just leave it uncompressed (optional for consumer).

Christopher Moon Frame drop to 54 man '-', i think that is not so compromise, load screen of 5-15 Seconds is a bit boring, but i think is not a big deal... (Sorry my english if i writed some thing wrong, my english is not very good)

Your English is good enough. The game runs well, yes. But it could run much better.

Loek Gerrits this port of the game felt more like a cash grab than a definitive edition.

Chris Ko wii u runs 720p

nope it runs 1080p

TheJesus 80 resolution doesn't matter according to nintendo fans

Owned

Wii U > all seeing how others play the Murphy stages, but ps vita at the time was second due to having the Murphy stages and the only way to play on the go at the time.

Walther Penne don't worry. I agree to disagree. ;)

How can it be the best version when other versions don't have any of those problems?

I agree

Neocaron what's crazy about people act like they can't just patch it up. if it's truly in issue they'll update it soon... people wouldn't have notice if DF didn't mention it... seem to me like people have to find a reason to say switch is inferior. when in actually it's not. you're taking console like graphics on the go..smh

Neocaron that dosen't change what he said and it dosen't matter what version you pick they will all run at 60 fps

Yes, I like Legends but I dislike touch screen rubbish.

There's nothing to improve.

A Channel About Video Games Rayman Legends will gonna be the next Resident Evil 4.

@@anasbakhit4303 or Sonic 1

Well, Rayman Legends includes 40 of the levels from Origins with a WAY better art style. It's basically 2 games in one. I think both Origins and Legends are 10/10 masterpieces, but I'd choose Legends personally.

Or perhaps just realises that they are unacceptable on 2017 hardware.

He and I have different opinions about what is "unacceptable." Different hardware has different standards, regardless of the year in which it's released. Expecting the Switch to perform as well as a PC running games off a high performance SSD with the latest i7 is illogical.

There is literally no reason the switch should have worse load times then the fucking ps vita

My mistake sir. I didn't realize you were an expert on the subject! It's obvious to me now, given your eloquent and carefully considered way of speaking. Of course you would know these two systems better than the developers who have designed games for both.

xD Sure thing buddy. By the way, your preposition's dangling.

I'll take AMOLED over LCD any day. Next Switch model needs a OLED display.

DT B true AMOLED is way better than that cheap Switch display.

Jehart Bonilla he's talking about the handheld screen display, AMOLED display is way better than that cheap IPS display on the Switch.

Vita isn't even HD, so I'd take the Switch any day.

Only the first Vita iteration, the newer vita models uses LCD

Walther Penne why are you making stuff up?

Walther Penne you do know they added a touch screen mode but kept it only single player right?

Walther Penne You can't actually use the touch screen in docked mode anyway. In this instance you'd need to connect two Switches, which is fine as Vita achieved it like this and Namco Museum does this on the Switch. You can connect two Switch systems and one person is Pac Man on the handheld and 3 people are the ghosts on the TV on the docked Switch

RIght; similarly to Pac-Man Vs, they should allow 4 players to play in docked mode while the fith player uses Murphy on a connected second Switch in handheld mode. I would buy this if they did this.

Hyawatta exactly :)

Really??

Sometimes I do hit 10, but very seldom do I see it. I believe one time it was 10 seconds because of a graphically intense level (I can’t remember which; I think it was in the last two story worlds) and I kept dying. When I completed it and went back to the hub, I was waiting longer than usual.

AdaaDK but he isn't a game reviewer If he was reviewing than the video was not an analysis video rather it was a review

AdaaDK but he isn't a game reviewer If he was reviewing than the video was not an analysis video

He reviews the technical aspects of the game. So he is a game reviewer.

He reviews your mom. How is he not a reviewer?

+SotNist Cool stuff, no one cares what you think with the stupid "your mom" jokes that died out at least 10 years ago.

Really, they do?

Ubi has taken more steps than oher companies to improve dev health

Deacon Blinders Another? Lol There are other wins for the Wii U? Seeing as Nintendo is bringing all the good WiiU games on the Switch.

That's just it though, the WiiU did actually have good games. You just answered your own question. The reason they're getting ports is because the WiiU had poor sales due to horrible marketing and lack of third party support. It was a great console, it just had bad luck.

@@PurushNahiMahaPurush Then why are they porting them?

Complain to Nintendo for having garbage hardware that can't run old ass games properly.

Except that's not actually true? I mean the Wii U ran it just fine and the Switch has better capabilities than the Wii U did. I mean Ubisoft got Mario and Rabbids working just fine on the Switch and that's more of a tech demanding game then Rayman Legends. It's just lazy porting. Hardware only means so much if you're not going to optimise a game to run on it properly. It's how we get games like Assassins Creed running like crap on consoles like the PS4 and Xbox One. Anyone remember Unity? Or Watchdogs? Ubisofts not exactly known for their great jobs on optimising...

I agree, these feel more like nitpicks then true game breaking problems. I'm gonna get this game for my Switch, & enjoy it.

8azaz22 same hehe

What else do you expect from Digital Fraudry and their fanbase.

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo Very underrated system.

Using OLED quality to bring the best out of games before 4K TV screens ever dreamed of the idea. Although I use the slim.

Actor Adam Anouer the OLED screen on the Vita is absolute dogshit. it has absolutely horrible clouding (I know it's not calles clouding on OLED screens but I forgot the right term... and it's basically the same thing anyways)

Kevboard Arts mura effect. Black spots caused by inconsistent power delivery to the screen. Luckily my vita has very little, but i had one once that had loads.

My screen still flawless

Got it for 12 dollars on xbox one recently.

srx1 yeah it’s a slap in the face for sure. I want the game so bad for my switch, would love to play through it again, but I just can’t justify the price tag. Nintendo seems to be doing okay with eshop sales, so hopefully it’ll drop to $20-$30 sometime.

srx1 i bought it on a steam sale for less than 8, so yea

Aw, bless you man. Fixing the issue's shoudn't be too hard man but that said I hope you do like the game man. It may not have a whole lot more but at least the core is still a great game.

Thanks man I've never played it before so I'm still having fun with it. Also I got it for $25 bucks thanks to some GameStop points I had so I can't complain too much :)

$25 That's a really decent price dude. I know it's not good when a game like this sells for $40 after being sold so many times but I can at least say Legends certainly doesn't lack in content. So if you like something meaty, you're in for a treat.

David Artrip me too, although actually playing the game I feel like I have nothing to complain about. It looks incredible and had the best time playing co-op with a friend. I also have the Wii U version, but wanted this so i can play on the go and finally 100% it. I'll do my own comparison vs the wii u version someday, but i can't notice any difference, looks just as good to me. And the loading times really aren't that bad, besides when you die you come back instantly and that's the more important thing anyway. I just played a ton on the go as well and it brought a big smile on my face, i didn't realize how much I missed this game. It's a masterpiece and so addictive. I couldn't care less about these very minor issues. But maybe there will be some patches as well to iron those out. Visually it looks just as stunning as i remember it and plays just as well, and having it on the go feels like a luxury for me personally :). Having said that, of course it's a cash-grab for Ubisoft, that's what they do. Still an awesome game though

RobinHoodFox74 Really getting into it tonight I don’t want to put it down to go to bed. It truly is a masterful platformer and I’m very happy to finally get to play it. And you’re right, these issues haven’t hindered my fun with it at all. The point you made about no loading after death is dead on.

And you can get Origins 911mb on the same cart and still have those same load times. Though to be fair 960x544 is not 1270x720 resolution.

But it can get away with having lower quality assets because it won't be blown up to a higher resolution, so it requires less compression. That's my theory anyways. The switch is running assets made for screen 4 times the resolution of vita with less than 3 times the space.

Exactly. I don't think the compression of the file size makes that much of an issue if I'm being honest. It kind of just looks like they took the Wii-U game and compressed it without making any tweaks at all which if that's the case they shouldn't have any trouble fixing it.

yodagamer1 asset is same lol just resolution down on ps vita versions

Ye Xiu well they might not be the wouldn't need the full resolution sprites for the Vita version as the Vita only has a 1/4 the resolution of the other consoles. It would be a waste of space, but it's just a theory

I Love Rayman Legends

Zoey

Rayman Legends had "lukewarm sales at best". That's not usually enough to justify a sequel

Maximumsquige lol

Everybody knows comments on the internet are shitty, we all know what we're getting ourselves into. It's comments like YOURS that are even more of a waste of time.

The Bad Hombre nope

Dimitrelos300 truth hurts.

The Bad Hombre nope, not truth, no hurt. Cry more fangirl

This game is already on Xbox One, so what's your point?

Dude.... The vita runs this game on 60 fps.

iYohm thanks! So should i download it from eshop or buy the cartridge version?

Just picked it up on sale it’s so fast now

I want to know, was there a patch? If there was, i might buy the game.

noobmaster69 ! They have its fast man no slowdown and load times are insanely quick

@Tea spill well i bough it for 9 euros this summer, when it was on sale.

Really?

A patch already fixed the problems that this video pointed out.

Vaibhav Shah Too bad, this one is only available in Japan.

Jungko Midori I know :( I recently bought a used Vita 1000 but if I had an option here in Finland, I would have bought a slim with some whacky color. I love those Vita slim colors.

Vaibhav Shah yes it is, the ps vita design is gorgeous

Bless you Vaibhav I'm with you there buddy. The Vita is absolutely worth it's price and honestly I love the black one but a whacky blue or silver one woould be amazing.

Vaibhav Shah The 1000 version is better than the slim version though.

Ubi was likely worried that Switch users may not have space. And this isn't the first time as Games like Dark Souls had very compressed audio. I do wish games like this at least had an option to install more if you have the space.

Considering they literally provide footage of the loading times and frame drops; I don't know how you could say those weren't problems when the game came out. Obviously, a review of the original, 1.0 release isn't going to take patches into account because the patch didn't exist back then.

This review was also made around the time the game came out, by now the patch has reduced the loading times a fair bit.

But the switch version has the same experience and it's portable.

I'd rather play it with trophies or on the go.

Green Mario Like the Vita?

Exactly, on a side note I liked Origins much more tbh, you could tell the sequel was made for the ill fated WiiU's controller. Controlling that little green guy with a button press was awful, they badly needed to remove him from the game entirely, or better still, let a fifth player control him with the mouse, but I suppose that would've required some actual work. Also (and I'm digressing even more here), as much as I like the new Sonic Mania, I'd rather it used this games engine or one like it. I want Sonic's old gameplay and art style, not the crappy pixels that went a long with it. I'd also like a lot more depth in the next Sonic game, as I got bored with Mania in a few hours, it just doesn't hold up as well as I'd hoped. Edit: I also notice a lot of fps drops when your software was showing 60fps andnot for the first time, my eyes don't lie, something's up there.

+Actis What will you do with those digital trophies.

yep the game got patch now

Panda Xkills switch has a larger screen and u can dock it on tv and continue where u left off :)

the best portable option is on the GPD Win, 720p/60 fps

Not anymore now Rayman legends switch got a patch that reduce the loading time and the framerate are smoother

back then before the patch it wasn't definitive

Facts

The Vita version has seven exclusive levels, so it's kind of a toss-up

Yes, it's called U-Play. But also the game has a shit load of touch screen features, how well do they play on PC like genuinely I've never played this on PC.

Rayman Legends is not tied to Uplay

Oh it's not? In that case I apologise. I thought U-Play was like EA's god awful Origin system.

The game is tied to uPlay. Yes, it's like Origin but both of those actually improved (still not as good as steam). The PC version is pretty identical to the XboxOne/PS4 version in terms of content except that it doesn't have an exclusive costume. The touch thing works pretty well. I never played the Wii U version but just pressing one button seems a bit less complicated than having to draw on your screen while playing the game.

Python :) Oh that's awesome. I'm glad to see the Touch Screen stuff wasn't swept under or forgotten about. Fair play if you can get that with all those and love Rayman... then it sounds like an awesome buy. Question though I assume Origins has a PC port too, I take it that one is awesome too.

You just mad because you don't have one. This video isn't faulting the Switch for performance, it is faulting the compressed game files.

Nah it's too expensive for what it provides. I'll stick with my PC.

Matthew Schantz, the argument that someone is mad because they don't have one one of weak as hell. Why would they bash and harm the system they could end up having in the future. If the system doesn't appeal to that person, than fine. It appeals to you and millions of other people out there, so don't act like a kid, whether you are one or not.

A laptop for sure. Hell even some chinese/korean smartphones at this point.

Switch is smaller though, makes it better for a handheld than carrying around a laptop with you to game. You're more likely to pull something out to quickly play with the size of a Switch rather than a laptop. Laptop also means PC games as well and if you want to be playing alot of the good ones, you're going to need some better hardware if you wanna play them at better resolutions. You'd also probably want a gamepad. KB+M can only take you so far. It's just a portable you can play some console games on. I think that has its own merit and warrant. But I mean if you were buying one anyway, you're buying it for the Nintendo games anyway. So saying it has no worth is kinda silly to me. It has no worth to you if you're not into what it has for sure and that's fine. But no worth at all? C'mon man.

Because it's not lol

kabr0ne It's definitely a great version of the game!

It is, and it came with Origins on the same Cartridge... unless you're American but who cares about those guys really?

Actor Adam Anouer Yeah, Americans are fat

kabr0ne What's a Vita?

No it isn't. The Vita version not only loads faster but comes with Origins bundled on the same damn cartridge.

Actor Adam Anouer damn son, you just destroyed his comment xd

Actor Adam Anouer every version of Legends has most of the Origins levels as unlocks. check your facts, thx

Kevboard Arts One thing are the levels on legends and the other is origins itself as a separate game but included in the pack, smh.

+Depsy Why thank you ^_^ It's nice to be appreciated.

I so agree to that, I rather have a version with load times, over a version with a mandatory install anyday.

If Richard were around he'd be proud of you guys. He has said the reason he loves console gaming is that you don't need to dedicate hard drive space, you just pop it in and play.

Riiiiight, because storage space is so expensive. Stop living in 2003.

My xbox 360 didnt have storage, and I just need a USB-32gb to play all DVD game. GTA 5 just take me 7gb on my USB and i played this game without any problem, Rise of the Tomb Raider on DVD too.

Yeah but I mean that lower storage space wouldn't matter in regards to the Switchs cartridges. Even if it was 9.8GB, Switch doesn't install mandatory on carts. So unless you're buying digital, it wouldn't impact as much.

I don't think Nintendo are pushing SD cards, after all they don't have their own proprietary memory format like the PS Vita did. Flash memory is expensive, 120GB storage definitely would have boosted the price. Plus Nintendo isn't forcing you to go digital, they sell physical copies.

JackWolf To be fair, you kind of have to buy a microSD card if you want to play some games in full like NBA 2K18 (even if you have a physical copy).

Nintendo doesn't make SD cards. I think you are mixing it up with the Vita. SD cards are cheap so who cares anyways?

Jack Sparham They didn't even need flash storage though. All the games run fine with MicroSD cards. You can get a maximum speed 128gb micro sd card for 40 bucks (so I imagine around 20 dollars to produce?). Going with slower storage would've actually decreased loading times in this case lol. Regardless of how you slice it 32gb is nowhere near enough for a "home" console.

To be fair they could always just make a new model with more internal storage but being real this is Nintendo, they've never really been known for splashing the cash on hardware upgrades.

Have you played it?

@@fryboi4896 no, but it's identical besides them. I don't care about the 5 player thing.

Dick Deepinsideher It's a great game though

Dick Deepinsideher it's the best platformer of this generation

ILLUZIONZ Very true.

you can't kill a great franchise like rayman, and when ubisoft decided to reboot the series, it did a great fucking job