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Switching LANGUAGE ARTS to The Good and The Beautiful 

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We made a rather large mid-year curriculum switch to The Good and The Beautiful! In this video, I chat through a bit about what made me switch and what my plans are going forward. Stay tuned in my monthly updates to hear how the switch is going :)
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@myshaharmon6808
@myshaharmon6808 6 месяцев назад
We switched to TGATB mid year as well a few years ago and we were able to “catch up” since they only have 120 lessons. It took us maybe a year or two to completely get on track with lesson 1 on day 1 of school but my kids didn’t even notice. They just did the lesson I told them to without thinking what level they were in vs what year of school they were in. We are very happy with LA for elementary and then switch to IEW for middle school. Btw - as a tip for spelling, my kids needed more hands on spelling practice. So we just took a blank notebook with the spelling words and I had them write the words every day: ABC order, in cursive, in spirals, etc. Having them physically write the words every day helped them to truly master the spelling words each unit.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
THANK YOU for the spelling tip - I'm writing it down bc I feel like that might be a weak spot in the curriculum, especially for my daughter!
@mostagreeable
@mostagreeable 5 месяцев назад
Oh my goodness, I thought I was the only one doing this. So encouraging. I’m old fashioned with pen and paper!
@rosalindreloj7928
@rosalindreloj7928 6 месяцев назад
I really like your "think through" videos. I am in this same process with curriculum! Thank you so much for sharing!
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
I'm glad you like the "think through" video - sometimes I worry that you all don't want that much information :)
@ashgarstin4307
@ashgarstin4307 6 месяцев назад
This is so timely, because I've been thinking about using TGATB for my middle daughter. We tried their handwriting this year and it just was like magical for her. She will just do pages and pages of it every day. I think it's the fact that everything is 'beautiful' and that it involves art and coloring and sweet birds and such. I never really thought it would be a good fit for us, but I think I may have been overlooking a perfect fit for her. Children are all so different
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Yes, your daughter sounds very similar to mine ... she really loves how pretty it is :)
@sheridanwibeto1813
@sheridanwibeto1813 6 месяцев назад
I didn’t use TGTB LA because of the phonics as well. This year I tried it out for my kinder & 3rd graders. We still use AAR since TGTB lessons are super short in the younger years. It’s been such a solid curriculum & I’ve seen so much growth in both of my kids this year!
@Brigsgirl22
@Brigsgirl22 6 месяцев назад
Yes, we are loving the new 3rd grade TGATB! But I am also discovering the different curriculums for different personalities work and don't work
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
It's amazing how different kids are - but that is the beauty of homeschooling!
@allisonroundy1416
@allisonroundy1416 6 месяцев назад
I think it’s amazing that you are recognizing your daughter’s need for a change of program and you are supporting her in that and she is excited! That’s awesome and I hope it continues to go well for both of you.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Ahh, thank you!
@mamato4
@mamato4 6 месяцев назад
IEW is wonderful for structure.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, IEW is definitely high on my list for my son for next year!
@DebBeePlus3
@DebBeePlus3 5 месяцев назад
Third grade was exactly when we picked up TG&TB, and I never thought I would. And while I don’t hate it, it is not how I think. But it’s EXACTLY how two of my kids function for entirely different reasons. Not a great fit for another of my kids, and that’s the beautiful advantage we have homeschooling our students. We adapt and get to choose and meet our kids where they are at and challenge them in ways they will respond and thrive!
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 4 месяца назад
Yes, that is why we homeschool!!
@lifewithginab
@lifewithginab 6 месяцев назад
The books are so great for level 3! It was a fun year for us when we did level 3 of the new edition :)
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Gina! Your videos were some of the ones that helped me decide to give it a try - so thank you so much!!
@lifewithginab
@lifewithginab 6 месяцев назад
@@sciencemama really?! That means so much!! ❤️ I'm so happy they helped!
@OneMamaToAnother
@OneMamaToAnother 6 месяцев назад
I love The Kingdom of Kind! TGTB is a solid program. My oldest is doing the last level of high school right now and it's served him well.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
LOVE this, thank you for commenting!
@leahkuqo
@leahkuqo 6 месяцев назад
We have used and lived TGTB for 5 years now. Cannot wait for you to experience it. Even if it isn’t the perfect fit, you will gain so much insight about your two learners.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, I am really pretty excited that I finally decided to give it a try :)
@thepracticalhomeschooler
@thepracticalhomeschooler 6 месяцев назад
She sounds exactly like my daughter too. Young for the grade but switches over around January. Hope she loves it!
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Thank you! And thank you for all your review videos on TGTB, they helped me make the decision to just give it a try!
@thepracticalhomeschooler
@thepracticalhomeschooler 6 месяцев назад
@@sciencemama ❤️❤️❤️
@PiningOverHome
@PiningOverHome 6 месяцев назад
You’ve been talking about wanting to try TGTB for years, and I’m glad you’re giving it a try! Sometimes you just have to do it and see how it feels :)
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Haha, I'm glad I'm finally giving it a try as well!!
@PiningOverHome
@PiningOverHome 6 месяцев назад
@@sciencemama and even if you end up not liking it, you won’t have that question in the back of your head 😂 which is how I feel about logic of English, so I should probably take my own advice and try it 🙈🤣
@sarasmith3271
@sarasmith3271 4 месяца назад
Love TGATB! My daughter learned to read so early and easily during the kindergarten with the reading booster program. So glad it’s reigniting your daughter’s enthusiasm for school.
@amandarada3242
@amandarada3242 6 месяцев назад
Always enjoy your videos, Angie! We are having work done IN our house this year and it's been TOTALLY disruptive! I have extra work to prepare space for workmen, extra talking, less space, "everything" out of place and not sure where it's going when it's time to find it's place!!! Ugh .. and I am supposed to be educating my children. We ARE BEHIND! It's aching on my heart, but we've been blessed (especially with extra finances) to get this work done in our home, I'm so thankful. Yet, overwhelmed and disappointed with myself and for my children. Sorry, didn't really mean to vent. I love how intentional and consistent you are with your homeschooling. I pray and strive to be as good a homeschool Mama as you are, someday! Keep up the good work, Angie! 😊
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
You are always welcome to vent, some seasons are just hard! You will get your feet back under you :)
@laboome531
@laboome531 6 месяцев назад
My kids are using Level 1 (used Level K) last year and the updated versions are much more phonics based. I love the booster cards and little readers and how it joins up with the curriculum. I don't always LOVE the sequence they introduce things, but it really seems to work for my kids.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
I've heard great things about the updated versions!
@tiffanylegato6796
@tiffanylegato6796 6 месяцев назад
my 4th grade son is excelling with IEW. We use the video teaching and he went from hating to even write one sentence to writing entire two page reports full of correct grammar, interest and humor. For his personality IEW is perfect fit. It is only a writing curriculum so we also use BJU Press for spelling, Fix it grammar and CLE language arts. AND of course all the Sonlight readers.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Gotta love SL readers! IEW is definitely high up on my list!
@kadieschaefer2874
@kadieschaefer2874 6 месяцев назад
You guys might really like Essentials in Writing! It has made a BIG difference for my son's writing!! We love the very short videos and bite size chunks. It is not overwhelming, but they learn a ton!
@Well-DoingMomma
@Well-DoingMomma 6 месяцев назад
I agree so much about each kid being different and having to change things around that. My first 2 were very similar but my 3rd required some changes. We are loving TGTB.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
That is the beauty of homeschooling!
@Well-DoingMomma
@Well-DoingMomma 6 месяцев назад
@@sciencemama yes!! We are changing calculus midyear because it wasn't working. I'm so grateful for so many options.
@brianaanderson1607
@brianaanderson1607 6 месяцев назад
Wow, so excited to see how it works for you. It will help me see your comparison of TGTB to sonlight for LA!
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
That is a great video idea!!
@ForMyDaughtersandSons
@ForMyDaughtersandSons 6 месяцев назад
We just switched back to TGTB and we are so glad to be back in it. We love the lessons and the readers!
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 5 месяцев назад
Glad you have found it to work so well!
@EverydayArmyWife
@EverydayArmyWife 6 месяцев назад
Is writing in Rhetoric or Write Shop on your list to consider? I am eager to hear what you are considering for writing next year. I have a 5th grader that is going to need a writing program next year and I don't know what route we are going to go. IEW is on my list, but there are TONS of review for that program.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
All three of those programs are on my research list ... it is so hard to narrow things down :)
@numbersandstars
@numbersandstars 6 месяцев назад
It sounds like a wonderful switch for your daughter! I am happy for you! I also adore LOE and I would totally want it for my second child but children are so different. And that is beautiful. In the homeschool world, there is nothing like the feeling of: I found such a great fit for my child and I , curriculumwise! So congratulations to you both!
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Ahh, thank you!
@thekangaline2914
@thekangaline2914 6 месяцев назад
We tried TGTB in August and September. It was too distracting and the lack of uniformity in exercises from week to week threw both of us off. We switched to Master Books and it was a great fit for us. Sometimes you just need to change!
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Glad you found something that works!!
@StaceyYoder
@StaceyYoder 6 месяцев назад
Use the TGTB LA with Sonlight readers for my 4th grade twin boys. It works great together
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
I LOVE hearing that bc that is pretty much my plan :)
@Mariellen_
@Mariellen_ 6 месяцев назад
For Language Arts 3rd & 1st grade my kids have really enjoyed TGTB. They also read all the books from Bookshark for their independent reading during afternoon quiet time as we love their book selections. I don’t like TGTB language arts for writing so we do IEW for that. Sounds like a lot but they are able to do a lot of TGTB independently and pretty quickly. Sounds like this may work great for your daughter. Looking forward to hearing how it goes.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Thank you, those ideas are really helpful!
@emilykinison9025
@emilykinison9025 6 месяцев назад
I’m interested to hear how you like it after using it. I’ve used TGATB for three years alongside LOE programs. I had decided NOT to use it for level 3 this year and only got it at the last minute for exactly the same reasons you mentioned- the way they teach phonics and spelling drives me batty and I really don’t enjoy their readers. 😂 I’m so glad I ended up getting it again this year to use as a supplement. The art, poetry, geography, writing, and grammar lessons bring so much joy to our school day. My son loves competing the lessons each day. We skip the spelling, phonics, and readers and use LOE Essentials online and Sonlight readers instead. It has been a GREAT fit this year!
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
That is a wonderful plan ... now you have me thinking of potentially combining LOE, SL, an TGTB :)
@brohgandieker5173
@brohgandieker5173 6 месяцев назад
The timing of this is so funny, because TGATB LA is working so well for my second grader, but I got on RU-vid today to see what else is out there, specifically SL LA, because my mom guilt said there’s probably a better fit out there. 😆 I pair ours with First Language Lessons by Jessie Wise (purchased an older edition on eBay for just a few dollars) to make the grammar more of a spiral. We do that out loud, and it only takes a minute. And, we use All About Spelling, which is just personal preference.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Haha, I do the same thing sometimes! Stick with it if it works!
@ItsEasleyLiving
@ItsEasleyLiving 6 месяцев назад
We’re using TGATB Language Arts 2 and 3, and I like so much, especially 3! This our first time using it and my son is doing really well! He loved Timothy of the 10th Floor so much that we bought the rest of the series. Honestly, I’m enjoying the books and curriculum just as much as he is. We are considering IEW or Night Zookeeper for writing going forward because I want my boys to have a little more structure with their writing.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
I hadn't thought of Night Zookeeper, adding it to my list, thank you!
@HomeSweetHomeschoolLife
@HomeSweetHomeschoolLife 6 месяцев назад
We just made the switch to The Good and the Beautiful for high school.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Keep me updated on that, I'm so curious about TGTB high school!
@jennykiiskila3127
@jennykiiskila3127 6 месяцев назад
I have been curious about why you haven't chosen TGATB in the past, so I was really interested to hear your explanation! 😁 I also found TGATB phonics instruction to be a little lacking at the preschool and Kindergarten level and had to supplement with All About Reading. Since they've redone the program, though, their phonics instruction is much more similar to All About Reading now in my opinion. And it's so beautiful! And so easy to teach. I keep trying other programs with my kiddos and I just keep coming back to TGATB. I hope you and your children enjoy it as much as our family does.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, it was mainly the phonics ... but I have heard great things about the redesign! I am pretty excited we are giving it a try :)
@kellybeachler4177
@kellybeachler4177 6 месяцев назад
IEW seems like it would be a good fit for your son. Excellent for adding in that structure that many kids need to have for stability in order to really excel.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, IEW is high up on my list!
@lisaroper421
@lisaroper421 6 месяцев назад
I am using TGATB 3 with my daughter, and it has been a good fit for her. I hope it works so great for you folks! (We do substitute the spelling for spelling you see)
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
I was a bit worried about the spelling - good to know that you can easily substitute if needed!
@Michelgia523
@Michelgia523 6 месяцев назад
You have to get your son IEW SSS
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
IEW is high on my list!
@CharissaGarside-qi3gc
@CharissaGarside-qi3gc 6 месяцев назад
We have been having writing curriculum issues too. We did IEW and MCT last year and EIW this year and both didn’t work for my 4th grader. I’m currently looking at write by number and Write Shop.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Thank you - I've never heard of Write by Number, I will add it to my research list!
@CharissaGarside-qi3gc
@CharissaGarside-qi3gc 6 месяцев назад
Ode to adobe here on RU-vid has some great videos about it.
@theclassysassymama7515
@theclassysassymama7515 6 месяцев назад
Good luck with TGATB, we had to ditch it and switch (both Lang. Arts and Math) because it was just not doing the job academically, especially upper elementary; which was disappointing because I so wanted to love it. We have often found that at times we have to do things differently for one child than we do for another and that is one of the wonderful things about homeschooling is that we can give them a customized education that is just right for their needs instead of a generic one size fits all box.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
That is the wonderful thing about homeschooling!
@SeeGeekRun
@SeeGeekRun 6 месяцев назад
I used TGTB for a few years with my 3rd grader. She did really well with the phonics portion but really didn't retain much as i had hoped she would. My son did Level K. This curriculum didnt click with them. My kiddos feel the same way as your 10 year old does. I hope TGTB works for your daughter.
@jenniferpincin4328
@jenniferpincin4328 6 месяцев назад
I agree with so many of the comments here. I am currently trying to decide whether to continue using TGATB or to piecemeal the components with various curricula. TGATB can sometimes be all over the place. I already supplement spelling with Spelling-U-See, phonics with All About Reading, and this year I introduced Fix-It-Grammar for my 3rd grader (and he has really flourished with it). But TGATB is extremely easy to implement. One lesson a day, shared reading, and it hits all of the topics. I'm not sure it is the best curriculum at any given subject, but it also doesn't miss anything. I find Sonlight Language Arts to be difficult to implement, especially their spelling. I also find that some of their mechanics teaching is a bit much, especially for my daughter who struggles with even basic grammar. I love Sonlight's readers. They are the strongest part of Sonlight curricula.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Yes, SL readers are the highlight ... and I have heard that about TGTB!
@AtmosphereDisciplineLife
@AtmosphereDisciplineLife 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for being willing to share when something you love just isn't working. We're looking at switching to Sonlight for a similar reason and I'd love to hear if you have any tips about when the best time is to order to get the best deals? Thanks!
@bethsteward8933
@bethsteward8933 6 месяцев назад
Your daughter sounds similar to mine. She is also in 3rd grade and has a summer birthday. We're currently using TGTB LA Level 3 too. It's been a good fit so far. I might end of adding in some more/different composition but probably not until next school year. We came from LOE Foundations.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Glad it is working so far!
@leilanidong8219
@leilanidong8219 6 месяцев назад
I would love to hear your thoughts are on The Good and The Beautiful vs. Sonlight for Science.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
I've never tried TGTB for science - my sister has and she really likes it!
@athenainstitute8074
@athenainstitute8074 6 месяцев назад
I remember you used Lightning Literature, BYL, and Torchlight in the past. I’m looking into those and I’m wondering why none of those made the cut for Language Arts in your opinion.
@Michelgia523
@Michelgia523 6 месяцев назад
BYL is more Charlotte Mason which she said she hasn’t personally connected with. Lightning Literature she said composition wasn’t strong (a known issue for everyone too). Torchlight is not used for LA for 99% of people. Hope that helps!!
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Thank you, yes, those reason are exactly what I would have written! Those programs are great, they just didn't work for us!
@AlwaysBooked
@AlwaysBooked 6 месяцев назад
We love TGTB! I hope it keeps working!
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 5 месяцев назад
Me too! How are you doing??
@AlwaysBooked
@AlwaysBooked 5 месяцев назад
@@sciencemama We're doing good!! Thinking of adding more, but also struggling to balance what we've got. There need to be more hours in the day! I REALLY want to try Sonlight Science soon! How are you?
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 5 месяцев назад
@@AlwaysBooked it’s such a struggle to find the right balance! I’m good - it’s already been a busy month, but good!
@AlwaysBooked
@AlwaysBooked 5 месяцев назад
@@sciencemama good! Did you guys get hit with the extreme January weather?
@kristankaszynski965
@kristankaszynski965 6 месяцев назад
That’s exactly what we do! We use TGATB LA with the sonlight readers ❤️ I have tried a few times to leave TGATB and I always come back 😂
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
I love hearing the TGTB plus SL reader is working so well for you!!
@Michelgia523
@Michelgia523 6 месяцев назад
This new level 3 looks very good! I wonder if they are updating 4 as well??
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
I'm not sure if they are updating Level 4 ... I need to look into that!
@SWKS_AG05
@SWKS_AG05 4 месяца назад
Great job! Relationship over curriculum ❤.
@user-fb5ze9fx7e
@user-fb5ze9fx7e 6 месяцев назад
For structured writing, perhaps Winning With Writing or the writing section of Essentials in Writing would suit your son.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
You are the second person to recommend Winning with Writing - thank you!
@MW11-3
@MW11-3 6 месяцев назад
Have you heard of Winning with Writing? I’ve seen some great reviews on it lately and maybe that will be more step by step for your son. Teaching and learning the writing process is tough!!
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Add it to my research list - thank you!!
@CozyCruiserr
@CozyCruiserr 6 месяцев назад
You should check out hmh writing handbook grade
@gabrieladelopez941
@gabrieladelopez941 6 месяцев назад
Hi! I'm interested in Brave writer, but I don't understand how it works😅 Is it easy to implement? I'm just considering the writing portion. It would be amazing if you make a video! ❤
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
I did make a video a few months ago :)
@SarahElizabeth516
@SarahElizabeth516 4 месяца назад
I'm curious now that you've been using this for a few months how do you feel about it? I started my son's first grade year with TGTB language arts and it did not go well. I switched pretty early on to abeka and that worked really well for him in first grade. Second grade, not so much 😔 I'm not sure what to do with him next year for 3rd grade. I love abeka but I'm not sure it's right for him. I've researched pretty much every grammar program out there (that's the only part I'm really interested in) and I can't find anything I like. I can't believe I'm considering using TGTB language arts again but I'm wondering if it would be a better fit for him now that phonics isn't really a big part of it. He likes creative and fun, hands on things. Are you enjoying it? Do you feel like it's enough instruction and review for your daughter to retain? I'm curious for any feedback you can provide now that you've been using it a bit. Thanks!
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 4 месяца назад
So far so good! I feel like the grammar is pretty strong in Level 3 ... she did pretty well on the assessment and now I know the areas to focus on which I like! I would say that Logic of English is a stronger program but not for my more creative and fun child ... so I feel your struggle!
@SarahElizabeth516
@SarahElizabeth516 4 месяца назад
Thanks for responding. I appreciate your insight!
@Grace_Filled_Homeschool
@Grace_Filled_Homeschool 6 месяцев назад
Sonlight LA left my kids very weak in grammar. We switched to CLE for K1-2. For 3rd I’ve considered TGATB. I am still on the fence.
@hollyhall4236
@hollyhall4236 6 месяцев назад
Are you happy with CLE?
@Grace_Filled_Homeschool
@Grace_Filled_Homeschool 6 месяцев назад
@@hollyhall4236 we love it! I’m currently using K1-K2, 2nd grade Reading, Language Arts and Math, and 5th grade Language Arts. I use their Reading program from K-2. By then my kids are proficient chapter book readers and I switch to living books.
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
It is so hard to choose - I hope you find what works for your family!!
@Grace_Filled_Homeschool
@Grace_Filled_Homeschool 3 месяца назад
@@hollyhall4236yes we are very happy. We will be continuing with it next year.
@jessicajones611
@jessicajones611 6 месяцев назад
I hope TGATB 3 works well. I have an almost 8 1/2 year old son, he’s working through Sonlight la 3 and also uses Rod & Staff English 3. Rod & Staff is very simple and effective, not exciting but still very good. Are you doing HBL D in the fall? Will you be doing la D in any way? Think I recall you were trying to get both of our older students ready for la D. X
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
I've heard good things about Rod & Staff for its simplicity! Yes, we are planning on going to HBL-D in the fall ... as for LA-D, I'm still on the fence if I will be using it in a supplemental fashion, but I will definitely be using the Level D readers :)
@MW11-3
@MW11-3 6 месяцев назад
I agree with not liking TGATB phonics. We do Abeka LA for K4 and K5 for an amazing foundation and then switch to TGATB for 1st. My son saw how many workbooks Abeka had for 1st grade LA and he was like…nope 😂
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, I will be curious to see how my twins respond to Abeka G1 ... although I did cross out like half of the questions when I used it with my son!
@carrieyezak4119
@carrieyezak4119 6 месяцев назад
I was looking into Guest Hallow ELA. Have you tried it or reviewed it?
@elenatwine7073
@elenatwine7073 6 месяцев назад
Check Jady A writing workshop, it is great
@sciencemama
@sciencemama 6 месяцев назад
Will do, thank you!
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