Swivel Technique Explanation (Double Bass Drum Tutorial) - James Payne 

Bock3039 yeah, you see? Someone went over the Paradiddle!

Thank you so much! I really appreciate the kind words

You're very welcome!

Ahahah!! Glad you liked it man!!

Sure, wIll do later this month man!

@@JamesPayneDrums did you do this btw couldn't find it

I think it comes down to lots of practice man. Gotta get those neural pathways laid down by grinding hours and hours of practice. Otherwise everyone could do it.

@@jakehaslam3138 he didn’t….he let us all down..

@@jakehaslam3138 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZAM8fHJ8a-s.html He did

So glad to hear that man!

​@@JamesPayneDrums It is my first time playing the swivel technique and it is not easy.

I'm very glad you like them!

I'm very happy to hear that my video is of help man

Thanx man! I appreciate! I believe that if the content is good, numbers will arrive, but for now I'm focused on the good content :)

Yeah, that was game changing to me! Just make sure you practice on a surface that has a good rebound!

You are very welcome Blaise! I'm glad you liked the video!

Yeah!

That's great man! Thank you!

Developing the heel up motion will surely help to get a better understanding of how to develop the Swivle technique! The 2 techniques have very different motion direction and the energy is generated from different part of the foot, but the heel up is great to master the ankle isolation and will help in developing the swivel motion in an easier way.

You're welcome man! Glad it helped!

Hey man, glad you like the videos! So, the first stroke, should be a leg motion stroke, which ctivates the pedal and works against the spring tension with the weight of the leg, after the first stroke you should control the swinging of the pedal with the lateral Swivel motion by just using the ankle motion and isolating the rest of the leg from it, so make sure that you can actually do the swivel motion just with your ankle first and then apply it to the pedal. I hope this explanation helps

@@JamesPayneDrums thanks !

@@rickhxc ...ive been doing the same thing u have...using the whole leg...and its never felt like it was the right way....now we see...good luck on your journey my drummer brother✌

@@brandonkain9231 good luck bro

Hey man, yeah, you can apply this technique to only one foot! And it is the fastest technique to play single strokes on the bass drum :)

You're very welcome Kamal! Do what is more comfortable for you, try both playing first stroke on the right side and second on the left and the other way round and see what comes more natural to you, that's the way to go. There's no better or worst way in this case :)

James Payne alright thank you for the advice! Makes sense. Thanks once again.

Not a stupid question at all! I just made a video about this question that I will release in the next weeks. But basically, there is no better way of doing it, what comes easier to you, just do it that way. To me, it felt more natural to do IN-IN-OUT-OUT (meaning the heel motion) but some of my students do the opposite and other do in-out-in-out. I wouldn't force myself to do it in a way that is not natural to me because it's just extra work and it doesn't change the result :)

Yeh i know what you mean, the other night i was trying to figure it out and the way it felt better for me was out-out in -in.. haha wich is the total opposite from what you just said.granted i only worked on it for like 10 min cause i had rehearsal but i guess i need to give it time. i have my hi hat pedal set up right next to my left pedal touching side to side . and i noticed i keep hitting the hi hat pedal, maybe with time ill control that. i also notice my right foot keeps moving back as i do it. i guess i just need to keep working on it. looking forward to your next video.ty

Yeah, keep working on it and maybe move a little bit the hi-hat pedal in case you keep hitting it with your foot, I did the same because the Swivel motion does get outside of the pedal board a bit. Usually when the foot goes backwards is either because you're sitting too high and it's a balance problem or you are contracting the thigh

interesting, balance its fine but...I do sit kind of higher than most people do, ill keep an eye on the thighs as well.. thanks.

Generally the ball of your foot

It's not a dumb question, is a good one! The weight of the leg (or at least partially, since we'll be holding it up to free the ankle) and of the foot on the pedal will create enough pressure that, once the pedal is swinging, it will be enough to execute the Swivel.

Hey man, yes, you don't have to think about the vertical motion, just the lateral one with your heel (like turning off a cigarette with your toes). To know if you're doing the right thing grab your thigh and check if you're ankle is able to do the motion without involving the leg, if you can then go on the pedal and do the same and see if you're able to synchronize the ankle motion to the pedal motion.

James Payne thank you man!

Glad you liked the lesson!

The swivel is played RLRL, it's a single strokes technique.

You mean up and down from the pedal? I don't involve the leg motion, so the leg is still and doesn't move my foot. Also I don't press on the pedal.

I hope your drumming is not as lame as your jokes

@@JamesPayneDrums My drumming is _much_ worse than my jokes!

Noctumus ahahah! You owned this one tho

it actually isn't

A normal person takes something simple and explains it in a complicated way. A brilliant person takes something complicated and explains it in a simple way. This guy is making a very simple concept and making it needlessly complicated and superfluous. Not good.

yep

He’s breaking down the science behind it. Makes perfect sense to me.

@@sentientdogma1206 it's like Dutch footballer Johan Cruyff once said, football is a very simple game but it's very difficult to play simple.

Quinn Kim maybe grip tape on the pedals..?

@@RedWolfDrift2000 is it helpful?

Quinn Kim yes. I play with shoes on. It’s the stuff they put on skate boards to help you not slip off the board

Usually that happens when you involve the leg too much in the motion, try to hold your leg with your hands and see if you are actually doing the Swivel with an ankle motion, if you have hard times doing that I suggest to work on it and then you won't have that problem anymore

@@JamesPayneDrums yeah....... preserve, patience, practice 3P must required. but how can i distinguish normal muscle action/abnormal muscle dancing? I want to reference optimal

Daniel Gonzalez could it be your spring tension?

Jesse B I started to raise my right leg a couple weeks ago which is helping now. So I was applying too much pressure with my right foot choking the strokes. It’s slowly starting to feel better. By the way I play with maximum spring tension on axis a21 Sabre’s .

increase the spring tension, that should help

@Drum 4Fun I think Gene Hoglan sits high too.

I don't think there's any rules about this stufff

@@mafscoolas8754 u right. alan cassidy sitting under 90 degrees and its almost impossible for kick the pedal fast and consistently. the rules just where u get comfy is

Film yourself and see what the left leg does different compared to the right leg and then fix the differences :)

Thanks friend!!! I promise i will not giving up. Greetings from Chile 🤙🏼

Rodrigo Hernán Saavedra Meneses my left leg sucks as well. Been practising but the muscle and groin pain sometimes hinders my progress. I really want to know what I'm doing wrong...

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I'm talking about the things I've noticed that worked for me in developing the Swivel and I'm sharing them here so that it might help others

@@JamesPayneDrums apologies was being a dick

@@doublemarvellous5525 yeah man, Does James deserve to be talked to that way, when he tries to teach and answer questions genuinely? ... at least you said sorry.

Ahah, that's so weird because I thought I did! I've been teaching it for a decade to hundreds of students and made a DVD about it too, but I guess YOU are right and know better than me man!

If you're looking for the 3 minutes video with the 1 exercise that will fix all of your issues instantly, you're in the wrong place. This channel is for people who are really dedicated to learning and get in depth in the topics and don't mind spending 15 minutes of their lives whatching and listening to an explanation. Sorry.

@@JamesPayneDrums You're right... Wrong channel for me.