@@floricel_112 Besides, still kinda fits Sith philosophy. Sith Inquisitor goes with the Light Side because it opens them more possibilities for subtle manipulation and allows to make Republicans freak out like no tomorrow, allowing for even more manipulations - truly worthy of a Darth Imperius title. Sith Warrior sticks to the Sith Code first and foremost, which does not specify anything about the side.
@@Tomboo Where is the rule that you have to be cruel to be a good Sith?Just because you are not acting like a total asshat the whole time does not mean you are not a true Sith.
it's funny how on Dark Side Sith try to lure Karr and succeed but on the Light Side path he tries to talk him out from using Dark Side, still Karr does it.
Your character is a complete contradiction. A Sith pure blood who wears Jedi armour and walks the path of the light. I love it! My own Sith Warrior is light.
Juan Maidana you I had a lot of fun Rping the story out, my SW started off as a dark side character, however certain things about him kept him from being true evil douchebag, he was pragamatic, he wouldn’t needlessly kill his subordinates for failure or to impose his will, he had a sense of honor and had little interest in killing those who could not fight back, but as things progressed and he dealt more and more with the Jedi he become less sure of some aspects of his life, the Jedi willingness to sacrifice their lives for their cause confused him, when he found the Jedi agent on Balmorra and after beating her, when she offered no resistance to being executed and was at peace, it confounded him, and the biggest turning point for him was tattoine, the projection of himself but on the light side trying to redeem him, his curiousity of what Jaesa did that allowed her to bend the sand demon to her will and beat it without a weapon, all this cumulated into fighting the Jedi master in the dessert, when he beat him he gave him a moment to find peace in the force (as his sense of honor dictated) before being executed by my warrior, when the Jedi master tells the Sith you have a moment where you are standing over this defeated old man, with your lightsaber out, and this is when my SW begins to turn from the dark side, at this moment my SW can no longer find it in him to follow through and spares the old master, which when I played the SW it made me absolutely LOVE LS jaesa because in a sense jaesa saved my SW from being lost forever to the dark side
@@theinquisitorisamage1653 oh yes it made a very interesting character because while he was a light leaning sith he had to take take precautions to protect him and jaesa, he did execute norman karr since baras would eventually find out if escaped, and he couldn't let him be captured because he knew baras would eventually have him reveal what he saw, stuff like that, he did good for his soldiers, if no one would ever find he would do LS choices (take Hoth for instance he spared the master and his student who were trapped in the glacier aallowing the master to teach his student how to subside entirely on the force becoming one with it while still living) but more public things he would have to keep the dark side facade on, like executing baraas (granted that wasn't really a facade he really wanted to do that) on belsavis after working with the jedi they left as enemies but his honor dictated that since the jedi assisted him in his goal he had to let him leave and of course one of the big thing is that he of course after the amazing act 1 and how jaesa affected his life he did wind up romancing her when they were reunited (he kept the alliance independent from the empire but he also knew that after defeating the republic the empire would never allow the alliance independence so he is siding with the republic with the hopes of being allowed to keep the alliance while allied to it out of the republic)
@@theinquisitorisamage1653 also i have to say whoever did jaesa voice really hit it out of the park in the LS confession when you return her feeling you can hear hints of almost crying with relief and happiness not just for her feelings but because after turning from the jedi and being chased out by the sith after her being LS is discovered she finally has a home and not only a home but with someone who she loves and is loved by in turn
@@sootythunder3111 Man, I just read your comment and.. how can I say that.. MY RP IS EXACTLY THE SAME HOLY HELL. Even if.. I'm still a loyal Empire Servant, and if you anger me well... I'm a Sith after all. But I've stopped being cruel, I'm being the Justice (even if it makes me get some DS Points. Like in Alderaan, when I killed the bastard who lied to Baras (I kill him because he wanted to molest the Organa woman and tried to use me for that).
especially ig your Light Sith is a Sith Pureblood: the species that in their minds is the embodiment of Dark Side incarnate. Almost feels like watching Marleyans see that the Eldians of Paradis are a chill people.
It's sad that Jedi's storylines are far worse than Sith's, but I still think some choices wrongly give you points of side, when they should not. For example, on the quest on Balmorra to accept the Rebel Commander's propose of him tell out Republic's lies and the part on the start when you judge a traitor of the Sith, where let him rot in the jail till the next acolyte judge him is good while giving him his desire of trial of combat is bad
True strength of the Sith is freedom. Freedom to choose, to act, to decide. Thus a light side sith is trurely free, as he chose a way instead of all that is decided. Count Dooku has failed to see it. A lot of other sith failed to see that. But that's what I see playing as a light side sith.
The Dark Side is like a mix of meth and steroids. It gives you power, yet the more you use it, the more addicted to it you become. And when you are turned into a Dark Side addict, your chains will be reforged, as you turn into, basically, supernatural druggie.
I think of a lot of the fandom still doesnt quite get that point, Sith is about freedom and power. If a lightside Sith were the most powerful, who could argue with those results? Instead you had fans asking why the troopers didnt fire on your character for talking about the lightside, the troopers dont care! They dont have a stake in lightside/darkside, they'd probably welcome a Sith showing up with basic sanity and stability.
@@MikeHesk742 On that note, Lightside Inquisitor is not only accepted by the Dark Council for their achievements, but also gets a really cool title of Darth Imperius.
@@MikeHesk742 The thing is that the Sith Code talks about follow up the emotion. It's proved by psychology that is much easier to find and follow the negative emotions (fear, anger, wrath, sadness, hate) than the positive ones (compassion, hope, happiness, joy, love). Because of this, the great majority of the Sith follow up the Darker ways, while the Jedi, when they project themselves as the opposite of the Sith, follow up Lighter ways, as they supress more the negative emotions than the positive ones. The Jedi Code talks about supress the emotion, so technically, a TRUE Jedi would be the more next it could get of emotionless, that's why they find out how to supress while have such dark things on them, like Noman Karr.
@@CanetaErrante This. As you said, the sith channel their emotions, but it's totally up to them, which emotions. It may be hate, pride, greed etc. but it also can be love or compassion. Jedi code taught, that they have to be devoid of emotions, because "emotions leads to the dark side", they should be like a machines. But would a machine be a good "peace-keaper"? Imagine a situation, that one overly powerful empire wage war against small nation. Peace can be attached by 2 ways. Either weaker side give up and accept everything forced on them by winner OR they can defend themselves and most likely die. If Jedi were just an emotionless drones, they could came, force weaker into submission and peace is secured. Yes, it was by force, but technically it works. Technically they wouldn't even need to assist, because every war will eventually end. And without emotions, they would not care for lost lives.
Ironically, being a member of the Sith species would give someone an advantage against being truly corrupted by the Dark Side, because their kind evolved on a planet that was Dark-aligned to begin with, meaning their natural Force alignment is closer to the dark end of the spectrum.
Jedi: SITHS ARE EVIL Sith: Trying to avoid causalities as long as possible Jedi Master: Tap into the Dark Side and starts glowing red without hesitation when opponent is stronger than him.
Light side Sith isn’t really that paradoxical. The Sith Code emphasizes taking power in order to bring about positive change. The usual problem is that the power consumes the Sith to where their original goals are never fulfilled. If one could maintain control, then the Code would be fulfilled in its intent.
Honestly I still keep thinking Light Sith are basically the Emo/ Edgy good guys. I'm not insulting I do think that's actually really cool it's the appearance of being dark but holding good intentions to heart for others. Typical don't judge book by the cover but if played right it can be a solid way to go.
@@kamuiwarp1784 It makes me wonder if this is how the dark side is which it really isn't just murder For the sake of killing someone it's about getting something in return power How did the dark side become so I guess prevalence
i'd love to see the Sith Warrior walk up to the Jedi Council with Noman Karr bound like "yeah this dude needs help finding his way back to the way of the Light and Jedi so uhh, have fun with that guys" and just walks off, their heads would probably implode
@prestonjones1653 there needs to be a sith lord who cares about having a good time. Doesn't care about hatred, power or typical tyrannical brutality most sith are known for. Wants to party and make you happy.
@peachybiscuits not him. More of a guy who does hoaxes and pranks on a galactic scale and likes to entertain people. Think joker without the violence and blood shed
This also puts an interesting perspective on the dark side. When Karr falls to the dark "You're weakening Karr; Surrender" The dark side of the Force is a place of great power if you can control it. It goes with what Obi-Wan said to Darth Maul in the clone wars tv series, he said something along the lines of only the weak would call on the dark side yet it'll weaken them even more
This is the path I took with my Sith warrior as exposing Noman Karr's true self is a better way of defeating him then simply having him killed. Besides, my Sith warrior wanted to show Jaesa that not all Sith are the bloodthirsty beasts that they're portrayed as by the Jedi.
Light side sith was always fun because it felt more like being an honorable warrior who respect his enemies. I loved sparing people or gaining allies for the empire. Wish the story rewarded these opposite actions more.
+Yung Houn Because Vette is firmly on the player's side, and as for the soldiers? They know better then to ask too many questions of a Sith warrior. Bad things happen when they do that.
So AFTER you beat him and tie him up, he's still wearing his lightsaber on his waist. Really guys? couldn't program removing that item off his avatar between cutscenes?
They didn't even really have to program it, just remove the weapon from his character sheet, which they do all the time in the cutscenes for this game, giving and removing weapons
I love the sith light side story arcs dont get me wrong its fun to play as an evil manic but the light side arc is so much more interesting and is a better story even as a whole I thought the Empire storylines are better then the Republic ones the Jedi Knight story is really the only good republic one
In my opinion the best stories come from playing the opposite of what is expected. So I had a DS Republic Commando, who did the terrible things that needed doing because no one else could make such a decision.
@@professorpantherhardraad3921 I'm of the same opinion. Only a few of my Imperial characters are DS aligned and I don't think I have ANY Republic characters who are LS aligned. The only reason I have DS aligned Imperials is because its honestly pretty fun to play the game as brutally as possible, especially as a female Inquisitor with her sass and snark
JK is the ONLY good Republic story? My boy the smuggler has some words for you my dude (Even if that story is held up by the Deadpool esque comedy it produces))
my first guy i made was a light side inquisitor some one that is suposeto be deceptive and evil being the sweetest person alive but...kinda did some dark side stuff it gave me an edge i could end the battles before it even starts i was true leader knowing to when to talk and strike.
Some significant quotes from the clip above: * What have you done to him ? * Has this been inside him all along ? * I would have known if such darkness resided within him. * That is what the Jedi do: mask, pretend and hide. * Never presume anything * I don't know what to believe... there was supposed to be order in the galaxy. * I can't trust you. I can't trust anything At first glance it may seem a good thing to send the fallen Jedi master back to the Jedi Council for healing. The Sith is doing the Jedi a favor: even helping the "enemy". But examine the situation in depth and it suggests an opposite conclusion: it's a bad thing for the Jedi Council to receive back their fallen Jedi master. In fact it seems completely DEVIOUS in a subtle long-term way to damage the Jedi Order. On the surface a good / light-side facade is masking a deep core of dark-side malevolence: a cure that is worst than the disease causing or speeding up the rot from within. Issue #1: Personnel Involved: wounded personnel tie up support personnel in their care, and healing: their transport to a healing facility; the doctors, nurses and support personnel while they are recuperating; the hospital bed itself; the medical supplies used to nurse the wounded back to health; the time involved. Contrast that with a corpse: the transport of a corpse requires very little. A body bag / coffin along with refrigeration / stasis field while its being transported. At its destination: a burial ceremony. The Jedi Order will explain the death to fit into their "world-view / framework" as a valient matyr to the cause - "let's us all follow their example", "let's redouble our efforts to ensure their death was not in vain" will be the kind of comments at the funeral The previous paragraph applies to wounded soldiers. With a fallen Jedi master it's worse: additionally there is now a known dark-sider within the Jedi facility. Now security-personnel are allocated / tied up: Jedi temple guardians have to keep watch on the master in case they succumb further to the dark-side and try to attack Jedi around them. Issue #2: Time consumed at the expense of other matters. Having watched the various cut scenes of the Jedi council meetings: a lot of time is spent in discussion of various things. In the long term, a funeral takes up very little time after the burial is over. On the other hand a damaged Jedi master that has apparently fallen to the dark side will consume an inordinant amount of time at the expense of other issues. The Jedi order will have lost clarity. Issue #3: The deeper existential issue: how did this Jedi master fall ? Reviewing the above quotes, Jaesa Willsaam comments, as she works through the situation, is a microcosm of the reaction of the Jedi Council members. They will initially think it's a Sith trick / technique that did this damage. The horrible realization will creep up on them: no dark-side technique did this; this darkness was there all along; and that darkness was masked / hidden. This leads to other questions: Can this same thing happen to padawans, knights, master, and Jedi council members ? How many others in the Jedi order are masking darkness ? This leads to now everything is being questioned: the entire membership and ranks of the Jedi order has to deal with this existential crisis. Some may decide to leave the order all together. The firm bedrock of their beliefs suddenly become uncertain all presumptions are thrown out. DELIGHTFULLY DEVIOUS
Light Sith are wonderful in the regard of letting Republicans and Jedi tear themselves apart with paranoia, as their entire worldview crumbles in the light of Sith *not* being utter assholes for once (even if it deals delayed damage, like in your example). Besides, Light Inquisitor also gets the coolest title - "Darth Imperius".
As if I need more of a reason to be a light side Sith. I am nice, but also, seeing the Sith revealing the dark side in a Jedi Master is just as satisfying.
So . . . do those Troopers just remain quiet about all that very conspiratorial talk between Jaesa and the Warrior? I mean, if they work directly for Baras then shouldn't he know that his apprentice is attempting to "corrupt" the Sith?
Well... In theory those troopers shouldn't question the Sith. So, they basically do what the Sith say and keep their mouth shut if they want to keep their head. Imperial agent got in trouble for defying Dark Council member.
Anthony Clay Along with what others have stated, given the nature of the Treaty of Coruscant and the grunts not likely to be THAT involved with Baras, it's possible they saw the Sith Warrior as simply trying to make the treaty go from a cease fire into something meaningful, even sending Noman Karr back to the Jedi would make sense as an act of good will and faith towards the Republic to make them consider a more solid peace accord.
sootythunder jaesa will actually comment on your actions and when probed she'll mention how much of a contradiction you are, sensing both good and evil
Kreia manifests and suddenly *Light Side Points Gained* *Dark Side Points Gained* *Influence Gained: Kreia* *Influence Lost: Kreia* Then she ceases her existence
Wow! Apt display of 'No one is born Evil'. A compassionate Sith is a living embodiment of balance of the FORCE ! (Yet to see one in the movies) :) Not a Star Wars veteran, plz tell me if any character shares similar trait among Siths in Star Wars universe.
Indeed...I despise any form of genetic determinism theory, so this definitely appeals to me. Plus making Jedi into hypocrites is always fun in my book.
+Zed Zamorin A lot of them are in swtor actually. Revan: He realized that both the Sith and Jedi codes created boundaries where none needed to exist and became a master of both light and dark "Let me show you the power of the force in balance". As a reformed Jedi he argued that love was a strength not a weakness. Kreia: Renown for her philosophical outlooks on the force saw that both Sith and Jedi were fools, arguing that the force was not split by colored dichotomies. She understood that light was just as needed as Darkness, she even predicted the fall of Vader and Palpatine. Volkorion: Literally wants you to stop seeing the force as simply light or dark, but beyond. He says he's transcended the need to see the force as opposite forces competing. Kel'eth Ur: He defies the Sith Code to become kinder, "It's a lie. Fear is a lie. Passion, a lie. Fears gives only temporary powers, and passion is easily manipulated. Real strength in the Force comes when one is no longer afraid." Luke Skywalker: After the dissolution of the Jedi Order, Luke created a reformed order in line with emotions. Seeing that love was not a weakness, but a driving force which helped him fight the Emperor. In his brief tenure as a Sith, he reinvented the Sith Lightning to be usable to both the light side and dark side.
+Zed Zamorin As far as canon goes, this was all disowned by Disney, so we may never see any good-guy Dark Side players (or good-guy Siths, etc). Personally I'm fascinated by the idea of a Dark Side Force user following the Sith mantra while not becoming lost in the event horizon of the Dark Side where one is enthralled by acts of cruelty and evil thoughts, and killing because it's fun. The basis for this being the very beginning: "Peace is a lie. There is only Passion."
RorytheRomulan I agree, I like the idea of a Dark Side Good. The light side represents the compassion and tranquility of all beings of the galaxy, the dark side focuses on individual passion and strength. While the light side is about maintaining the status quo, the dark side is about change and evolution. The dark side feeds off of the person's passions, but the Sith emphasize on the most despicable ones, fear, hatred, etc. Merely because these emotions surface better. I mean, it's easy to be angry. For instance Love is a passion, but it is considered the noblest of all. Love, is an idea that may seem so contrary to the Sith, it is still a passion fueled by the dark side. The Jedi were wrong. The dark side don't corrupt the Sith. It is the Sith that corrupt the dark side. The Jedi are notorious for forgoing their emotions, but by the same token the Sith are equally as guilty of this. Though they are still freer then the Jedi, they are still constrained. For example, they purposely do not allow themselves to feel for their apprentices, save only the superficial. They are further limiting themselves from feeling other passions like compassion, mercy, etc. Not until they accept this, and the force on a holistic basis... both light and dark, will their chains be broken, only then will the force set them free. Seriously, it's in the Light Side Inquisitor Ending. The Inquisitor was free from Jedi dogma, and forgoes Sith teaching. The Dark Lord's Spirits didn't find the freedom they were promised, but the light side inquisitor did.
I turned her to the lightside way back when the game came out on my main. That was when I didn't understand the Sith Code and the Empire, and thought the Jedi way was the only way. A few years later and I regret it. I've been redoubling my efforts butchering Jedi and Republic dogs since. For the Empire!
Darth Vectivus: Hey Jedi I wanna make peace and invite you all to my fun awesome parties! Also I work at the cat animal shelter! Jedi Order: I SEE YOU'VE CHOSEN ONLY... DEATH!!!
Jedi Order: So look kids: We are defenders of peace and Siths are evil people using twisted powers of the dark Side Sith: Hey dude, not like I want to fight, but I would like to talk to one woman. May I? Jedi Master: 0:58
I was a Gray Sith Warrior but I choose to have Jaesa remain on the light side and have Karr be sent to the Jedi Council. My warrior was purely neutral Twi'lek who carry scars of what he has done in the past but he isn't sadistic nor cruel.
This is one of my favorite moments in any game I've played. I remember the first time through, jumping up and down in my seat as the scene played out. Playing a light side Sith warrior: surprising everyone with mercy and compassion, training Jaesa, and romancing Vette---who loved all my choices---plus trolling Baras at every opportunity, made LS Sith warrior a really fun time.
I played a Sith who became a Revanite in the Dromund Kaas quest. He was originally dark but thanks to Revan's teachings and Vette eventually winning him over, he was neutral for this quest. He learned more towards light side later but still did dark side things sometimes. I got so invested in my character, I even wrote a whole fanfic to really flesh everything out. Lol
I LOVED playing my LS Inquisitor. His actions confused traditional Imperials, yet they were too awed by his status as a Sith to question it :) . Like Darth Marr and Lord Praven showed, one can have a passion for "good" things and fulfill the Sith Code that way.
I can hear the Love Theme from Episode II playing in the background when you talk to Jaesa, guess that's a subtle hint that she's going to fall in love with you
I legitimately wish that we had a response for Nomen Karr's sarcasm. NK: "No, I'm sure you're here to play pazaak." SW: "... I mean, I'm down for that. I'd prefer that to kicking your ass up and down this room."
The name for that is the grey Jedi. A force user that balances the light and the dark side of the force, from what I have seen in legends they aren't any stronger then a Jedi or sith, they just have more freedom. There is no official Grey Jedi code but this is the best and most popular fan made one: Flowing through all, there is balance There is no peace without a passion to create There is no passion without peace to guide Knowledge fades without the strength to act Power blinds without the serenity to see There is freedom in life There is purpose in death The Force is all things and I am the Force
So, what about the sith soilders in the room who literally just heard you confess to being a light side user? Dose that ever get addressed? Like are they your guys so they know what's up or is it just glost over?
Given, that this guy treats them fairly and nice, I don't think they'd expose him, in case they get transferred to someone much worse. Besides, he has just turned a powerful Force user towards the cause of the Empire and has exposed one of the Jedi as a Dark Side user, which will surely cause some chaos in the Jedi Order. Apparently, they've decided, that, as long as it works, it goes.
The soldiers probably just assume it's all part of some elaborate 5D Sith chess game. Which it kind of is, but they would never question the the actual motives, and what would they even be able to do? report the Sith to their superiors, in which case the Sith would just say it was all a ruse to manipulate the Jedi into defecting.
You have to appreciate that for the majority of people living in the Empire this is a political war for territory between 2 large powers, and not a religious war trying to convert everyone to the darkside. I highly doubt the majority of the these troopers know or care much about the darkside, they just want the Empire to win this war. A powerful Sith Lord that helps them without having a breakdown and murdering them? Probably a welcome sight.
I don't even see my sw as a light sith, just an honourable warrior, pragmatic and extremely loyal to the empire but not a mindless puppet and definitely not adverse to doing whatever is necessary to get what she wants. Somehow she still turned out light by the time I got to Jaesa despite sparing Yonlach and killing her parents (only after the Jedi guy tried to stop her when the parents agreed to join the Empire). I enjoyed the dialogue in this scene, especially the option where my warrior says that she is chaos and she acts on her whims, which is basically how I see a sw. I.e., Arrogant and self aware, but not pointlessly cruel and sadistic. Picking all ds options for sw just because they're ds feels really stupid imo.
@@Ghostx357 Exactly. He does enjoy killing but he places the needs of the Empire above his own. And since my guy became a Revanite on Dromund Kaas, he'll spare the few Jedi who actually act like proper Jedi. He's even spared some republic troopers. A quick way to get dead is to be rude or insinuate in any way you're stronger than him. lol
wonder where the dude got that outfit and if it's up-gradable. Looking to try a new set for my Sith Jugg and that set looks nice. Its like Jedi Guardian set. so i's either from Light-side store or quest.
Well this method is damn dangerous. Even if the troopers keep shut mouth someone from the jedi order might not, or simply someone see master Karr and tell the siths.
looking at the story of the sith warrior I can see this working for Darth Vader, for one despite his hatred for the Jedi: Jaesa's parents and Master Yan Locke would pose no threat to him. as for the knights only one of them would be foolish enough to engage Vader in combat (he's got quite the history of killing Jedi in his time). and as for Master Karr, well that's on him. Not sure about Jaesa Willsaam herself but a likely ally.
hmm,really wanna see what happen to Norman Karr and the reaction of Darth Barris after this path. When I was also playing a light side Wrath, I just send Norman Karr to Darth Barris
