T3 Main Battle Units Really Surprised Me | Supreme Commander Science 

Your tests against the GC were not fair, for the Harbs you moved commanded them in range. For the rest you put an attack command on the GC. This matters because the GC's beam weapon has 0.5 AOE so when the units clump up to attack it at max range on the attack command the GC can hit multiple units at the same time with the beam. Hence the Harbs did better as the GC never did double damage. You should really be putting a move command behind the GC on each test as that is how you get the best engagement against a stationary t4. Also in a real game 1 Titan will beat 1 loyalist if microed a tiny bit because you move it out of range of the loyalist for 2 seconds and the shield finishes recharging and then you have an extra 600hp to kill the loyalist with. Same thing with Harbs against othuums, the Harb will actually win because the harb stays outside of the Othuums secondary weapons range, and it can run away and let its shield recharge.

Bricks and percies will occupy less space on equal cost, which should be an advantage when you need to maneuver around rough terrain or put a large army into battle, I guess? They also have more range, which I assume should be a big advantage if microed well.

One important matchup I felt was missing was heavy bots vs light bots. Percivals are relevant because they're good against Titans and Loyalists and Harbs.

Something to keep in mind with Cybran units in general and something I always try to look for in videos is if the Cybran players use the stealth units or not, unfortunately they seem to be rarely used even though its a massive advantage to not show up on non-omni radar. Bricks have shorter range than Percies but they would outrange them with stealth field if the Percies do not get within visual range or have something else constantly scouting for them.

Another thing to keep in mind, the fast firing weapon on the Othum is VERY low on the model, making it clip terrain if there is any elevation. Its fine for an astro, but in a proper map they are very iffy.

One more thing that Bricks and Percivals have going for them is that they have more mass in fewer units, making them less susceptible to splash damage.

Honestly i feel like the t3 main battle units are made for different roles Where the Percival struggles against spam where the titan doesn't And cybran is just loyalist for spam and the brick to deal with t3 and experimental units And for naval shore ambushes Where the harbinger is a weaker brick mot having a range or health but having the firepower of a brick where the othuum are on the same boat as harbingers but with the ability to also naval ambush and travel water And honestly i would say for the better t3 unit honestly it really comes down to the brick, harbingers or othuum due to there more versatility against spam,t3 units and experimentals

Love your science videos :D Keep it up! I was shocked othuums didn't kill the GC but harbs did, the othuum secondary weapon has shorter range but is pretty important for it's dps. When its in range and fires, it is king of the t3 bots in my opinion. But when not, it's worse than Ilshavohs or other t2 units.

Harbingers and Othams both have really impressive DPS. Harbingers have better DPS than the more expensive Bricks, and Othams possibly have the best DPS per mass ratio of any unit at T2 or T3. One of the advantages I've come to appreciate from Loyalists is how fast they are - faster than Mantis if the unit database is accurate. I don't understand how their suicide charge feature is meant to be used or what it's good for.

Great video! 1v1 matches often ends before proper T3 phase, so extra tips for T3 units always welcomed.

I love the science vids

This is a fairly minor point against the Harbs (which is, I think, offset by their general utility) is that they cannot move amphibiously. This means that Aeon can't move T3 land units through water w/o a transport in the same way that every other faction can. I know this is an edge case. But so much of this game revolves around maneuver warfare - having that option off the table does hurt.

The range of the bricks/percivals allows kiting wich is also important to take into account

watched after 50sec upload lol, love what you do, hope to see you at the tourney, keep up the great work bud

Percivals are the only units unofficially classified as 'Tech 3.5.' No other T3 units fits that for a reason. 15 could vaporize Monkeylord nearly instantly.

So basically: Don't skip titans. Neat

Mention for the Othum to have tendency to fight against clif

As a new player these kind of tests are very interesting.

The Loyalists secondary weapon also has an EMP effect on tier 1 and tier 2 units. Also why 20,000 mass vs a Colossus? Don't GC's cost 28k mass

Seems like this was purely a test of firepower. Mentioning mobility or advantages and disadvantages of personal shields like great front line healing but power required should be added.

I'd say percival > brick, because both of them are mainly used against expirimentals and other T3 units and in those cases the percival scores better. Against lower tier units it's better to use the cheaper variants.

thanks.

A lot of people say percivals are really good units. Where does that come from? Like how do you use the unit to be like that? Taking into consideration im a potatoe and what this vid has explored.

Wtf at aeon actually being best in something

you didn't link the forum post in the description. also succboi is best you can't change my mind!

Hmm......Do any player of FAF MAKE ANY RADAR? Hell even T-1 will be enough

In the real world the percie is the best

Othum is very bad. good at killing spam when they dont shoot the ground

Bro is wrong give the Percy’s more time and there #1