Tactics Ogre Reborn: End Game Build Context (Your Mind is OP, Not Your Unit) 

100% Agree. The work you are willing to put into a character / class is the greatest factor because there are so many ways to get creative with your team synergy.

Natures touch is definitely more than 5%... no idea how yours is showing so low. I tested multiple spells and units vs different armored enemies and on average I got a 45.3% damage increase with nature's touch vs without. So pretty close to the 50% from psp, maybe just with weird scaling limits

Thank you for another guide. I hope to get to that part of the game someday!

Yeah I noticed elements play a big role and most enemies on a map usually have the same one so I just scout then deploy mostly the element strong against them. Seems to make a big difference.

You are so right. There is no perfect class built. Everything is so dependent on current situation and also RNG on the turn. That why normally I will save before a fight so I can go and reform my team if necessary and also scout before battle.

I def changed my favorite characters elements when I had extra scrolls, especially if I found a drop from the heavenly generals that was elemental. Literally it even shows on the stats screen a change. But as you also pointed out there are 8 elements, and when you are about to attack an enemy you will see the greater than / less than < > signs telling you if your damage is being tweaked for attacking the wrong element with the wrong unit.

When you mention the crits, I found that for instance changing Catiua to light element, adding the level 2 light summon, and adding equipment that enhances light damage, she would very often crit with her light abilities, however I didn't notice any difference in damage.

so in a nutshell, in terms of builds and offensive tactics philosophy, you favor debuffs and control. dmg is only relevant if it takes an enemy out in that action. if not, you're better off inflicting debuffs or control and slowly whittling enemies down while keeping the action economy edge on your side? out of curiosity, is there a build/class that can just one-shot non-squishy enemies as soon as they get in range without relying on cards or too much on items/ally buffs?

Another bizarre thing I have noticed is if you target multiple units, and there is a dead unit in the range, you will always shoot less hits with the summons / ninja skills. So trying to target only living units / one unit to wipe them out one by one seems to be the best way to go. If you have a party member dead counting down 3-2-1 in that range, consider a different attack.

I was spoiled on cross-class customizing in ffta and later fell seal(which is amazing!), but the lack-ish of it here smoothes out a lot of the game if u pay attention. It let me start charging into potd with all undeads/necro/lich lol, its pretty fun

I built my team with different squads within it. I have a Dark Squad (two Lich and my Dark weapon Swordmaster), Holy squad (Princess, Cleric, Holy Weapon Valkyrie) and the Battle Squad (2 DPS Rune Knights, Griffin, Buccaneer). My Griffin and Buccaneer run Wind setups together and my other Melee units are mixed elements. They combo well off of each other.

I'm still in potd not even finished my first story run (law). Charms are stacking up and my Denem has been a fencer since the start. Is it worth dumping most on him? I have 83 units of mixed elements/classes and elemental opposites seem to make a big difference

I noticed you were running nature’s touch on your divine element rune knight/Valkyrie unit, but I thought Nature’s touch didn’t do anything for divine/dark damage? And it only worked for the 6 base elements?

Does Apocrypha tier 2 actually drop on fortress reruns? I haven't rerun enough or be bothered to confirm since I'm already spamming tier2 summons and tier4 aoes

You should have compared a team of shamans and wicces with a team of warriors, berserkers and swordmasters that don't run whips, crossbows, spears or daggers. You run a backline of casters, no shit it'll be good. See how that compares to a bunch of classes that Square gave high RT values for no reason. I just feel like the endgame balance falls apart HARD after a while and you're forced to choose the most consistent strategy, which is units with haste like white knights and valkyries, debuff casters or Denam with the aforementioned poison accuracy combo, and high ranged damage like summons. And frankly I don't see the fact that status weapons are practically mandatory for dealing with high-health enemies as a good thing. It highly limits the number of equipment choices and makes it so that you always need some form of terrify/breached/poison combo or have to rely on the aforementioned casters.

Hilariously enough with the Lord class you can have both parry and counterattack, if you are willing to have Lombardia in your off hand as well.

Nice, I was wondering when you'd show San Bronsa, late CODA and maybe Heavenly Generals. I like watching your vids to prepare for endgame content 😁 I thought Heavenly Generals were the extreme endgame, but it looks like that's CODA4. Should I start hunting down Heavenly Forks before I do CODA4?

People love fielding 4-6 Shamans because it works for them. Shamans overall damage are still the best lets not get that wrong atleast. I personally use one only since I like variety on my team (half physical/half casters). Some classes are better at doing something and that can be damage, CC etc. Experiment. Adapt. Enjoy.

Finally another content creator that uses AT. I AT every match currently grinding to get the ogre sword. Drop rate gotta be low

My Ganpp got thrown off a cliff to his death by a dragon. I dont save scum, any way to get him back?

Wait, wait. You still get bonuses from weapon skills on casters even if you don't equip the relevant weapon? You had Sherri with Cudgel and Shield but with the Spellbook skill.

The Cursed debuff makes units more susceptible to being crit, even if the attacker doesn’t have a crit card. @ 27:47

If something isn't good, throw more cards at it, it'll be good eventually. I do wish HP/MP cards were adjusted to fit the new scaling.

I’ll have you know that my unit is very OP.

Hello! Out of curiosity, Your Patriarch is Fire Element but you gave him a Wind Staff. Is it because the elemental affinity is higher in Heart Crusher than in Spells?

@Coffee Potato Would you do us a favor and look into the "Cursed" spell for us? A) I noticed that it not only reduces HP/MP, but it also B) Disables passive class skills like Parry and Counterattacks C) Seems to dramatically increase critical hits on the Cursed unit D) Lowers Proc Rate/Luck/Crits/Damage (maybe) on the Cursed unit I'm 100% sure of "A" and "B" (at least as far as Counterattack - I'd assume it works on Parry) As for "C," in my experience and in your video, that seems to be the case? As for "D," can you help me figure it out? In any case, I'm going to update my Swordmaster + Lich synergy post to increase Cursed units probably are crit more, which synergizes with Preempt. EDIT: An hour later, I went back to your channel to recommend a video to someone on Reddit, and I saw the video you JUST made about the Debuff tier list. Weird timing. Anyway, I'm pretty sure Cursed is one of those complex debuffs that goes well beyond what it advertises.

"Your Mind is OP, Not Your Unit" is the best subtitle possible, and something I've continuously PROVED to card maxis on my no Incap run. Newbies: HOW you position and UTILIZE your units matters SOOO much more than "I need 50 atk cards". YES, by all means grab a few with Canopus on your way to that boss unit, but by no means is it a requirement for victory. If you try to build for max dps and no status utility, you'll find the game extremely punishing. Conversely, if you Charm half the opponents army with your mages, and Stun the other half with your Archers, you can swamp the boss that much more quickly, which is especially great when under-leveled.

Don't Forget The Necromancer!! I use one as my major mages!!

Does concentrate only affect debuff or also damage spells too?

Is relics weapons better than cursed?

I prefer to have both, thanks 🙂

Hey, as a first time player I have a question, and although this might not be the perfect spot for it, hoping you might answer. I am in chapter 4 and unable to recruit Azelstan. I started chapter 4 by visiting Port Omish and successfully rescued "Diego" despite his apparent death wish. Won battles at Bhanna Highlands, Brigantys Castle, Mount Hedon, Hagia Banhamuba, recruited Sherri, won a battle at Krysaro and recuited Knight Commander Ozma, won batttles at Vanessan Way, Lambiss Hill, and Tziorious Field. I had long since read all the Warren Reports including the one about Pirates Graveyard, so I went back to Port Omish and had a conversation with "Diego" who told me not to call him Captain. I went through the first three Pirates Graveyard battles and did not see Azelstan, so I read up on this recruitment so I went to Quadriga Fortress and had the conversation about the flowers. But when I return to Pirates Graveyard, I see no sign of Azelstan when I get to Crystal Halls. Have I somehow blown this? And if so, is there still a way to get the buccaneer class? Thanks!

How big is this game and how hard? Not sure I jave the time to commit. Fe engage soon also

I just finished the game, I saw some of your videos and I liked some of them. But, I want to say to everyone watching this channel, he has his own opinion and to me I disagree with most of what he said, Cannopus for example, he's a character that you should always use and will be useful in the end game, this channel said that Cannopus was useless in the end game, which I can't insist on how wrong this is. Also, Dragons was a must on his opinion, I beated the game without using dragons. He also said that the best class for Denam is the Rune Fencer, I disagree, it's the Buccaneer. A lot of things this channel said which I found very wrong, it's spamming videos about the game, but with little value, in fact it might ruin your game experience.

Nature powers feels like it never procs: Lich > Shamen

No my mind is not OP, I am really stupid. What is OP however is hte Unit Turn order thing below. I have been cosnulting that for run where I have no incaps, currently halfway through PotD, at level 36 (don't need numbers when I can prevent the opponent from ever getting any crucial moves).

How does denam have fear?

Excellent video. One of the hallmarks of a great strategy game is the ability for many different play styles to all function and shine and not shoehorn one single “meta” stratagem.

CODA 4 is CRAZY!!

Poison minus 30 per turn? Mama mia. Wish it was this high or even just near it in the older games. Memories of cervantes poison spamming instead of nuking you with friends grip. Kekw. "Right decision at the right time". Does this also apply to the enemy? Like you encountered this terror knight with this combination of skills that just messed your frontline. Or was there this enemy archer build that dealt good damage and had spells to deal with your units aiming for it? Do the enemy have builds that aren't vanilla is what I mean (e.g archer with range damage increase only, mages with just magic boost stuff, frontliners with all the tank skills etc.)? Also, from what I've seen, the revamps and card buff mechanics could deal with the turtling issue in the old games up to the psp remake. Wait for enemies to engage your Frontline then massacre them with mages and archers. Using this strat, I had no problems. Is aggressive play awarded well in this remake? Have not played Reborn btw.

I've been doing PotD on AI because ain't nobody got time for that. I tabbed back in to watch my dragoon use Dragon's Wound on a pumpkin, then attack the dragon standing next to him with Dragon's Scale active. I've gotten a lot of good longbow drops that are worthless because Cupido Bow with Eagle Eye or Tremendous Shot exists.

Luck triumphant all in this game, especially when procing skills

Poison is 30%? That's disgusting. Even 8 percent is a lot. If there's not much poison immunity it sounds very useful.

An army of max level zombie dragons (with knockback immunity) is pretty unstoppable in most fights.

You're on the right track, but you're still wrong :) haha All mages dont do the same damage. The nature's touch buff is very significant, so classes with access to it and same type element summons (patriarch, shaman, recruited liches with an element besides dark, rune fencers, lord, etc) need much less investment to hit the "damage that sticks" one shotting range. Shaman is just normally the first and easiest one you get with the combo, and has popular unique characters so it gets propped up more than the other options. But any of those classes are very much a tier above the other damage classes. AI sucks at using magic and summons though so if you stick it on AI you will definitely be disappointed. The AI doesn't value damage very well, so the highest dps suffers the most when put on AI.

I was literally attacked on the Gamefaqs forums for suggesting that Swordmasters were a good class in Reborn. I know that Swordmasters were garbage in the past, but Reborn is a different game than the PSP version. Since Lich is tied for my favorite class, and since they just so happen to "cover" a lot of Swordmaster weaknesses and vice versa, I had to discover if War Dances work through Reflection. And sure enough, they do. The reaction to the discovery on the Tactics Ogre Subreddit was one of positivity, and the thread was moderately popular. The reaction on Gamefaqs? Zero replies. Some people (in the plural sense if they're stuck in an online echo chamber) just cannot accept that Reborn is far more balanced than previous iterations of LUCT, and that if you mix certain classes together, you'll get more potency than the sum of their parts. In any case, I appreciate your vidoes, as always. Please don't ever change.

one of the things that discouraged me from buying this version is that I found it very ugly and poor the treatment given to the 2d sprites and it doesn't have a different attack animation like sword with knight makes a different attack animation here everything is the same I'm a big fan of the mod (valeria ) a pity it's in japanese I'm finishing the palace of the dead

The way I think about endgame/postgame balance is this: is it more or less balanced than Final Fantasy Tactics? I love FFT. It's one of my favorite games of all time. It also seems to make absolutely no attempt to be balanced in its endgame. Between straight-up handing you units like Agrias and TG Cid, to Calculators, to Mimes, to Monk Ramza, it is incredible the number of ways you can just crack that game open at endgame. There are *severe* balance problems in FFT's endgame--but it doesn't really bother me, because it's totally viable to play with all generics, with generic jobs, without abusing Math Skill. It's not the most efficient way to play by a long shot, but it's strong enough to still be fun. Tactics Ogre Reborn is a lot less broken than that. Sure, White Knights and Shamans (or summoners in general) are incredible at endgame and yeah, you could just field four WKs and six summoners and crush everything. But you don't have to. It's not the only way to play, and other options aren't so much weaker as to not be fun. And even with WKs and summons, they're still not at Orlandeau or FFT Calculator level. And there's a really wide variety of generic, beast, dragon, lizardfolk, faerie, etc. units to field that I don't feel limited in my available strategies at all. I'm excited for whatever modders do, or a potential "One Vision Reborn" years down the line, but I'm also reasonably happy with the current balance. I wish AGI and AVD did more, I suppose, and that some weapons had better finishers, but otherwise, I think it's in pretty decent shape, considering how wild other games in this genre (or even other versions of Tactics Ogre) could get.

how dare you diminish how absolutely broken ogre denam is. my man tanked all KCs in coda4 MVP. Still, shamans only having dps is the only thing they need. the dmg is just far beyond everything else (everything else without summons). i was at first disappointed shamans cant status to then realize just how bonkers summon is. because searching element advantage is kind of tedious to me, i straight up completely ignored elements when doing casts and it just didn't matter, summon dps is king. Shamans are not broken, shamans just happen to have the best kit available at first, patriarchs are IMO > shamans because of the nullify and you can give them nature touch with body snatch, its just shamans are easily accessible. Summon is what separates DPS from everything else. Denam is the best summon user thanks to ogre set, i would say princess is the second best because of her better stats and lucky star giving crit to everyone else. then patriarchs/matriarchs with their body snatched better kits than shaman, then shamans, then valkys and lich then everything else is just completely inferior (rip wicce) The problem with archers is that cupido bow is the last bow that has a status. most of the weapons after that (not just bows) completely let go of status. Why is it that enchi bows, relic bows, HG bows everything is just pure DPS? what was their intention there? even jiggy cannot compete to a shaman even if off element Just because summons are OP doesn't mean other things are not viable, however If you really want to prove that other things can keep up then you need to give examples on "why would I, manually, not use summon vs another spell/archer/skil in coda4". Coda4 is the hardest challenge in the game, if you really believe other builds can keep up that's how to do it.

2:02 Units don't take more damage based on their elemental weakness, despite what the combat info tells you. Instead, your units will deal more or less damage depending on whether their element aligns with or opposes the spell/skill being used. You can test this yourself in training.