Talaria Sting E-Dirt Bike Review | Testing the Sur Ron Look-A-Like

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Full Review and Off Road Test of the Talaria Sting Electric Dirt Bike. The Talaria looks a lot like a Sur Ron X but we wanted to find out how this E-Dirt Bike compares in the dirt.
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I spent a few weeks aboard Ebikezilla’s pre production Talaria Sting and wanted to review the bike to see how it stacks up to a Sur Ron X. This E Moto is not stock has been modified with some upgrades. It’s got a Fox 40 fork, a Fox X2 shock, a 54 tooth rear sprocket, GritShift 2” riser stem and Dunlop MX53 tires.
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@ElectricCycleRider Год назад

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@happygnome4620 2 года назад

Great review tucker! looks like talaria fixed all the major annoyances on the Sur-Ron! Awesome!

@elih9588 2 года назад

Thanks again Tucker! It's really great to have an actual rider review these machines. Definitely going to keep it Ron over here, but the gearbox does seem desirable

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@Eli H Appreciate that Eli! For sure. Will be interesting to observe the durability over time. OG Sur Ron is still a very solid choice!

@ItalianMetalHED 2 года назад

@@ElectricCycleRider bikes and beards reviewed sur ron or its segway counterpart and given too much power the belts will slip especially when debris works its way in

@KD-wy2cc 2 года назад

same ron is the better machine but good too see some comp

@Mayhemjach 2 года назад

Hell yeah man, good job on the review. Talaria just sent me out another controller with updated software. Going to test it out in some gnarly conditions again and see if I still have that over heating problem. Been watching since before I had my channel and love the content.

@kimseller246 2 года назад

Yep waiting for that video

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@Mayhemjach Thanks dude! Interesting to hear of your overheating issues. Care to share what you're experiencing when it overheats?

@ElationProductions 2 года назад

Great review! I've been thinking about getting a Sur Ron for a while, but just ordered a Talaria instead. Like you say, both are great bikes, but I think the gearbox and slightly larger size (since I'm 6' 2") will make the Talaria a little better for me. Just looking for something to putz around the yard and neighborhood on, and I'm super excited to see what all the fuss is about.

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@ElationProductions Awesome, great to hear that! Make sure to grab yourself some riser bars or riser stem to open the cockpit up some. It will make a big difference. Enjoy.

@ElationProductions 2 года назад

@@ElectricCycleRider Thanks! Yeah, you're absolutely right about that. Bike came in yesterday, and haven't had a chance to ride it a lot yet, but already feel those stock, low bars being a pain on my back.

@loomspace 2 года назад

I'm also tall, the small size of the in between ebikes is what's keeping me from buying in. Would love an XL build option.

@scooter_0113 2 года назад

Was also looking at what a good option for someone that is 6’2

@loomspace 2 года назад

@@umangatang Unfortunately no, I was looking at the Cake as its componentry is a bit better suited to swapping out but it still seems the larger e dirt bikes are the best fit solution for taller folks at this point. And I'm not looking for that true dirt bike solution, but rather the in between.

@AZuRaFPS 2 года назад

Competition is nice, the surron used to be alone in its category but now they gotta do better in the updated 2023 version, so thats a plus for the consumers. I've always wanted a surron X but if the next version talaria is still better than the updated surron version, I'll go with talaria instead.

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@AZuRaFPS That's right. Glad to see some challenge in this category!

@LosDoyerss 2 года назад

I wouldn't call it a Surron look alike, it's more of an upgraded Surron.

@Regan9415 2 года назад

I don't think the gearbox is an advantage or disadvantage as we haven't seen the longevity reliability of the box. But if it's not reliable that's a massive disadvantage and will kill the sales

@northsandiegorc4248 2 года назад

Would be interested in seeing battery levels with stock 44t steel sprocket. As well as your thoughts on acceleration with stock gearing.

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@NorthSanDiegoRC Absolutely. Will be doing some follow up with all of that 👍

@user-gb7vx5qu3h Год назад

Sounds like larger or taller riders would benefit from the Talaria's scale and weight. What I'd like to know is how they each perform in slower conditions or flat paved or hard pack roads going to the dirt riding sites. How do they do in 25mph road driving conditions, that may be less exciting but part of a realistic experience? Tucker is such an amazing rider, it's like a video game watching his ride, and a bit hard for me to relate to, without seeing some paved road shots showing the bike ride by, straight.

@OregonMotorcycle 2 года назад

Sweet review. Still watching, but wanted to say, the battery still rattles around. I am trying some shimming, but not having any luck yet. Another note is the chain is loose on your test model. These bikes get so quiet when the chain is adjusted properly. Oh and the weight is 138 lbs.

@catrider4863 2 года назад

Is yours also pre-production too?

@OregonMotorcycle 2 года назад

@@catrider4863 it’s not supposed to be.

@r35tmanbash 2 года назад

Thanks for this detailed review. Thanks for mention that you can checkout the ebikes on your website with the link on where to buy the ebikes. 👍🏽

@mountainflyhigh 2 года назад

One thing I immediately notice is that it's going to be quite difficult to change the seat height on that frame, and it seems like many Sur Ron riders do that. I just finished lowering mine.

@VaskoTheScoutMain 2 года назад

Hey man, Just want to warn you about that rear shock. Im a MTB'er and the new 2021+ Fox Float X2's have an issue of blowing up (literally) I'd possibly "downgrade" to a 2020 or under if i could!

@henzsy1404 2 года назад

Hi Tucker Fox 40 front fork is the best you can find in the market That fork is very popular at mountain bike downhill segment 👍 Sharing my experience below DNM and RST forks , they don’t last long and user will encounter noise caused by free play after few months of use

@user-gb7vx5qu3h Год назад

Hey Tucker, Ebikezilla offers the Talaria Sting with a Fast Ace fork, a DNM, or a Talaria Factory fork. Do you like any of these, or should I opt for the least expensive one, and discard it, to buy the Fox 40 fork and Fox F2 shock that you recommend?... or are there other forks and shocks that you'd also recommend, in a lower price range? I'm assuming that the shock is the most important upgrade, then the fork?... or are they important to both do at the same time. Budget, budget....damn

@LarryRichelli 2 года назад

The biggest problem with the Talaria is that the folks the make the bigger controller and bigger battery for the Sur Ron that will not work on this. Having had two sur rons know that most people buying this will want to upgrade to more power and I'm sure it will be a while before you can get upgraded controllers and bigger batteries for this.

@abi4510 2 года назад

check out what EBMX in Australia has done. they have already built a variety of batteries and tuned controllers for the sting

@MPulicci78 2 года назад

I like the look of the lower seat on this bike… I wonder if there’s a way to lower the production model?

@tigerrider6711 2 года назад

Great review, first closeup I’ve seen and learned it has a link in the back. From the pics I thought it was a linkless.

@nolacross704 2 года назад

When you upgrade to larger diameter forks how do the triple clamps fit

@DeanF 2 года назад

Great Review Tucker! I ordered 4 from Alibaba and got scammed for more after they said I could have more bikes on their mistake, which has turned out to be a SCAM! I am going to make a video and looking for others that suffered as well. Hit me up if so.

@tankdome37 2 года назад

What you mean, u got scammed? They not going to send u ur bike?

@volksquadman Год назад

That gearbox sounds a great point. love my '21 Lbx- I ride it far more than my petrol bikes,- its so tough & convinient to get on & go! But its on belt Num 3 to date- 2 & 3 were generic belts- not Surron, over tightened num 2 slightly. Front master cyl & brake pivvots worn out after 1400 miles. Ace bikes though.

@chadrabe 2 года назад

There is another comparison video which said the distance from seat to peg is within 0.5” or so on both bikes. So while the Talaria stands taller and has more ground clearance, it doesn’t really translate to accommodating taller riders any better. Granted, you have more distance to the ground for peg extenders. It was also mentioned the seat to stem depth is more shallow on Talaria stock, so you’ll be in more of a froward lean position while seated.

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@Chad Rabe Thanks for pointing that out. I have not measured that distance but you're correct, dropping the pegs will be more feasible on the Talaria for that reason.

@shaynestallsworth1864 Месяц назад

that thang looks like tw200 hooked up with an emoto and had a baby! I'd keep er busy on the trails where it belongs! Let's go ecr!!!

@aeror115 2 года назад

I’ve tested a suron bike in the woods it’s fun but the suspension and brakes are weak and cheap! The Talaria could be interesting

@murrietakenitri2157 2 года назад

Wow what a ride 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@mixflip 2 года назад

Time to sell my Ariel Rider Grizzly ebike and get me a talaria!!!!!!!!!!

@thelonewrangler1008 2 года назад

Stop apologizing to YT comments, If they have an issue then they can make their own video, but 99% of them are just arm chair "riders"🤷

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@The Lone Wrangler I agree with you. In an effort to prevent the inevitable "S" storm that can happen in the comment section, I like to explain those variables as much as possible. You are absolutely right though and thank you for that. 👍

@donaldtaylor9490 Год назад

Great review. Can you fill us in on headset used for these forks and anything else that was done during the fork install.

@danissqc4176 Год назад

Great reviews 👌did you need any other parts for the installation of the FOX 40 fork? Thanks!!

@Enviros 2 года назад

Thanks for your opinion.

@flyingjoed 2 года назад

Does the Talaria have the "green wire" that can be cut for higher performance like the Surron?

@austinrocha7974 2 года назад

I was wondering the same

@paullynch1938 Год назад

On Sur Ron you cut the wire to unleash the power so what’s the crack with these bad boys, is it just set to full power from the box, thanks great video dude

@viciousviolet3783 2 года назад

I actually love the look of the Talaria more

@RobertF-cs7fx Год назад

..Your Video was really informative, good job. I will be buying one soon, do you think this bike would be acceptable for more technical slower speed riding somewhat like trials? (I know its not intended for trials). ..Speaking to others for this, best bet would be to go with more teeth on the rear sprocket but wondering about the bikes feel and design for this type of off road riding? ...Bob

@semillaestelar1976 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing this adventure

@mackellarboy7 2 года назад

Lol

@samdanin4125 2 года назад

Could u do a test of a fully modded Surron XX vs the 2022 KTM Freeride E-XC?

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@Sam Danin Yessir. I'll put it on the list for content this Spring/Summer.

@samdanin4125 2 года назад

@@ElectricCycleRider Ok cool! I'll look foward to seeing that one!

@thumbgas888 2 года назад

That place look like CROOM !!,I wish this bike would carry me @ 210 6'2" nice review

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@Thumbgas You bet it is! Put some riser bars, bigger wheels, BAC 4000/8000 controller and battery (when they're ready) and it'll carry you swiftly!

@thumbgas888 2 года назад

@@ElectricCycleRider 🤔very tempting!!, I will follow your videos for updates, thx for the info

@hardtailfails 2 года назад

Talaria for offroad Suron for on road is what id do

@Furncycles 2 года назад

I see you removed the OEM lower headset bushing. What low stack headset did you replace it with?

@joseperez-cl8jk 2 года назад

Nice I may get one but I want more for less I want the upgrade and am willing to pay for them I just don’t want to jump off the $$$$$ Clif to get them I am going to see what the next generation comes up with your video are amazing but I need more run time a gas engine would run all day so why is it really worth it ??? Let’s see if a better battery and upgrade can come in one package an extra battery cost one third of the bike so is it worth it??? Thanks. JoP

@halohalohikers3571 2 года назад

Looks like a tun of fun. Bad ass bike!

@rixogtr 2 года назад

Hey Tucker! Love your videos ! Last time I commented on your Varg video you and your great content made me consider getting one of these bikes and now a couple of weeks later I've decided to get one soon so thank you for that haha, you did influence me :D I've also watched your previous Talaria video where you rode with your mates, one of which had a KX85 front fork on the Surron. Can you please give us any information about it in terms of performance compared to other aftermarket forks for Surrons ? Also, will it fit Talaria ? And what do you think overall of that modificiation ? It makes sense to me as getting one of those KX85 forks will be significantly cheaper than brand new Fox forks so I'd like your insight as I have no clue whether that's good or not. I'm planning to do light trails with the bike. Thank you

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@Richard Hey Richard! That's awesome to hear! In regards to the fork: Yes, for sure. I am going to be doing a build in the coming 1-2 months that will feature this exact topic. I'll need to ride it more in-depth to give my thoughts but please stay tuned for that. The quick answer is yes the bike was designed for a DH MTB fork but there are plenty of downsides to running those. They just are not designed for this much weight or type of riding. Manitou Dorado is another great fork for these bikes but expect to replace seals often and they do flex some - (Ebikezilla should be selling the Talaria with the Dorado). The downside to the 85cc forks is they are much heavier, although, that could be considered a pro depending on who you ask. I would only do the 85cc conversion if you're doing a power upgrade like BAC4000/8000 with a battery and are prepared for the bike to handle more like a "dirt bike". Hope that helps, more to follow. Thanks for the note 👍

@rixogtr 2 года назад

@@ElectricCycleRider Thank you for reply man! It definitely helps as I'm not planning to do any power upgrades, I haven't got the bike yet and when I get it I definitely can't see myself dumping another 5000$ into more upgrades. It's been a while since I rode a bike/motorcycle so it will be plenty for me in stock I reckon.

@ChinoZ32 2 года назад

It's a bad move, no matter how transparent you are, to be reviewing the product that isn't what people are getting if they are to pay for the product, simple as that. Didn't even get to finish the video, quite pointless.

@TheMehlvin 2 года назад

MaximusD must be D for douchebag 😂

@thelakeman5207 2 года назад

Maybe I missed it, but how much riding time do you get on a charge with eco? How about with sport?

@aidenrobert098 2 года назад

Aren’t fox 40s mtb forks? 😂

@deankruse2891 2 года назад

Yeah, but they can be tuned to easily handle the speed and weight of this thing. If the fox40 can handle downhill world cups it can handle this thing

@Gem-Ex Год назад

17 miles...dang, was just getting my hopes up lol

@variently2799 2 года назад

Hello I was wondering if any of you know what the battery charger use for voltage because I am limited

@AIIA23 Год назад

Can someone who is six foot three and 220 LBS ride this bike?

@steveshot81 2 года назад

What are the costs for all the upgrades thanks

@Gassten 2 года назад

Front and back shock cost alomst as much as the bike itself. GG

@eucme9716 2 года назад

Actually its half the cost of the talaria but still its a hard pill to swallow. WELL WORTH IT THOUGH.

@marcussmith4913 Год назад

could you shoot a grizzly bear from the back of this Bike doing full speed behind it?

@Navillus2273 2 года назад

Does this bike come restricted like the sur ron? Can it be de-restricted like the sur ron?

@iddddaduncan 2 года назад

Hi, what kind of range do you get riding like you do? thanks

@trickmustang1994 2 года назад

What is the price of this bike?

@adamgoddard9526 2 года назад

How can you give a review on a upgraded version

@mixmastamikal 2 года назад

Have you had a chance to ride an EXT Arma shock yet?

@user-gb7vx5qu3h Год назад

Wow! The Fox fork you recommend is over $2,100. and the shock you recommend is over $800 with the spring sold separately! EBikezilla offers a Fast Ace, DNM or Taleria Factory set up. Which do you recommend, for us poor folk who still like to play?

@adrianhusbands5737 2 года назад

I'm in Barbados this bike nice

@josearreaga1446 2 года назад

La talaria es una moto doble propósito?

@TypicalGuy84 2 года назад

How much do you weigh ? That's going to play a roll in how long the battery will last

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@HealthJeeps &Guns Indeed it does. More important is riding style, soil, temperature and elevation which is all hard to quantify. To answer your question though, I currently weigh approximately 165-170 with gear.

@biplopsilwal 2 года назад

whats about rear shock absorber?

@davidbarfield3489 2 года назад

Where did you get the FOX shocks?

@thelonewrangler1008 2 года назад

I've ridden dirt bikes AND ATVs my entire life only to conclude that I like a thumb throttle way more than a twisty. What options are there in the electric world?

@leetjohnson 2 года назад

Definitely not normal to have a thumb throttle in the bike world.

@irocss85 2 года назад

But I can see the advantage if that's what your used to especially.

@tigerrider6711 2 года назад

It’s an electronic throttle so you can fit a ton of options

@cecilia9th 2 года назад

How much?

@ComradeSunny 2 года назад

Can I upgrade my talaria to 72v?

@BARBQPUP 2 года назад

Is it chinise?

@markcoleman2960 2 года назад

Look at you at Croom..

@Ishment 2 года назад

Is there a wire you have to clip to get the full power, like the surron? Or does this one come with the full power unlocked? I assume it has the same top speed around 50 mph. I’m so torn on buying one of these or a surron around the end of April. I’m not buying it necessarily for trail riding, just commuting around downtown Austin. What do you recommend?

@kimseller246 2 года назад

Full power is unlocked

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@OhGeez @@kimseller246 Is correct, no cutting wires necessary with this bike. If you're commuting, it might not be a bad idea to wait and see how the street legal Talaria shapes up for the US... If you're looking to purchase ASAP, getting a Sur Ron with a longer range battery from EBMX or ChiBattery is probably your best bet. The aftermarket batteries for the Talaria will be here soon but they already exist for the Sur Ron. Not mandatory to buy a bigger battery, of course, but sustained higher speed runs on these bikes will drain the battery quickly. Best of luck with it.

@Ishment 2 года назад

@@ElectricCycleRider i see what you mean, but the surron is currently $1,000 more for the same power/voltage. I am trying to buy asap, so im thinking the talaria is a lot more convenient, no?

@atikulislam4785 2 года назад

mi dream is talaria bike

@TheTnTsvk 2 года назад

This FOX suspensions cost like whole STOCK bike :D

@catrider4863 2 года назад

I was curious what those numbers were?

@leetjohnson 2 года назад

More like as much as a new battery, around $1,500 to $1,800 for the Fox 40s.

@TnTckoo 2 года назад

@@leetjohnson in EU i see f40 for 2000€+ and 750€+ rear FOX shock, price is huge

@MHF_H 2 года назад

the total spend money for that bike, equal to Electric Motion Escape R, same size but still EM has better torque and clutch feat, Sur Ron Light Bee supposed to be cheap, because its a toy bike, the real bike is Sur Ron Storm Bee

@elih9588 2 года назад

I totally agree we want a 170lb storm bee

@nxdboi 2 года назад

Well stock it's the same price as the Sur Ron. Cheaper in some cases.

@Crohniac 2 года назад

@@elih9588 more like 270 lol

@BARBQPUP 2 года назад

Need to know parts thanks shopping

@BARBQPUP 2 года назад

Can you after market suron?parts

@tittysprinkles6518 2 года назад

I may have missed it but how long do these bikes last for im 6'4 and 235lbs how far could I go on a single battery obviously it will vary depending on how aggressive I ride and terrain I'm just looking for a ballpark idea since the website offers nothing in that area

@zachfpv4493 2 года назад

I think it is meant to be 70km(40miles?)@40kmh according to the manual

@CoryResilient Год назад

Doesn't seem as powerful as the suron for some reason

@jdubb12 2 года назад

I got one of these last week and the battery does the same thing, the rubber bumper is not in the correct spot on the battery lid, I had to move it and it fixed the problem. Did you notice how much stiffer the rear end is cause thats what stuck out to me when riding it next to the Surron on technical trails?

@catrider4863 2 года назад

Is the stiffer rear end a positive or negative?

@jdubb12 2 года назад

@@catrider4863 Much better! I rode it on a black diamond trail and with my stock surron (54t sprocket) and it is a big difference especially on rocky technical climbs, much more confident.

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@Jason Hanson Interesting... As I mentioned, I have not ridden the full production model yet but will be soon. Thanks for letting that be known. Glad you found a solution too. The rear end does feel like it flexes less but because I'm running an upgraded shock, I didn't want to comment too much into that.

@nsboost 2 года назад

The torque is just underwhelming. I expect a lot more out of a electric motor. I just don’t think they are quite refined enough to spend my money on one yet. I do have to say, it is fun.. but I don’t know if it’s there yet

@AustinPaolillo 2 года назад

Have you tried 55t sprocket?

@eucme9716 2 года назад

They had to find the right medium for the gen pub but with a lower tooth sprocket its a torque monster.

@speedbird737 2 года назад

so its not a talaria sting review

@tr1pppy397 2 года назад

Can u fit a 21in tire on this bike with the Fox40's ?

@tr1pppy397 2 года назад

Fake news

@zachfpv4493 Год назад

Yes

@bourdon845 2 года назад

Super

@petertothRC-FPV 2 года назад

Nice bike now bigger is even more interesting

@bollweevil8112 2 года назад

These things are electric mtn bikes. When they’re competitive in professional supercross and Motocross races, then you can call it a dirt bike.

@ElectricCycleRider 2 года назад

@Boll Weevil If it has pedals it's a MTB. If it has a throttle it's a dirt bike. This has a throttle.

@eucme9716 2 года назад

@@ElectricCycleRider this thing is a cross between both IMO. Foot pegs no pedals its a dirt bike. Rear hand brake it's a mt bike. Twist throttle its a dirt bike, mt bike suspension its a mt bike, battery powered could be either.

@Noelsterrr 2 года назад

$450 for shipping on top of the $4,200 price tag? Fuck outta here.

@tigerrider6711 2 года назад

4200 is pretty decent for what you’re getting. There’s nothing comparable in the dirt bike world.

@parkersgarage4216 2 года назад

@@tigerrider6711 look up a hawk dlx

@parkersgarage4216 2 года назад

yeah, i started looking into these things as well. the price and range on these is just horrible. i can buy a hawk dlx 250 for 1/2 the price. id rather go the enduro route tbh. i dont have to lug around a battery in a backpack. the range on these is 30 or less depending on riding. im looking for something to mess around on and this just isnt it.

@tigerrider6711 2 года назад

@@parkersgarage4216 that literally has nothing in common with the sur ron at all...idk why you would even compare them.

@parkersgarage4216 2 года назад

@@tigerrider6711 it's 1/2 the price and way more fun. The range is also alot better as well haha. Oh, it's also street legal as well. I know it doesn't as it's cheaper and better.

@phillipkuntze137 Год назад

save money on these bikes? there 4000 + ! plus upgrades...

@Zackattack94 2 года назад

A 18/21 and bigger battery talaria will be near 170lbs or more 😳 surrons bigger bro

@nxdboi 2 года назад

The Talaria actually weighs ~135lb stock, not 150. There are videos our there where they're weighed.

@Zackattack94 2 года назад

@@nxdboi my fully modded surron went from 110lb stock to about 140lbs with 18/21 and everything upgraded. I added that ~30lbs in upgrades to stock talaria. A surron at 140lbs is already pushing the limits on the best mtn bike forks and shocks, especially if youre a heavy rider.

@nxdboi 2 года назад

@@Zackattack94 The stock wheel setup on the Talaria is heavier. The Talaria battery is also something like ~10lbs heavier, so swapping them out with the same setup on your Sur Ron won't just be simple as just adding the weight difference from stock. The change in weight won't be as dramatic as it was on your Sur Ron.

@Zackattack94 2 года назад

@@nxdboi the talaria tire is still the same just slightly bigger then surron in the rear. The oem wheel set is extremely light. 21 front upgrade adds a lot of weight too. So that weight change will be huge if you go 18/21 on either bike. The weight gain on the talaria is going to be in the 25 to +30lbs if you go the full mx routewith power upgrades, no way around it. At 135lbs stock it almost the same weight as fully modded surron which already feels big to me going over jumps on hard landings. Adding any weight to the talaria is going to be noticable. The talaria needs 1000w more power and larger battery capacity just to feel the same and get the same range as stock surron. But only time will tell how the mtn bike parts hold up to abuse from these bikes.

@nxdboi 2 года назад

@@Zackattack94 The hub is more substantial on the Talaria than that on the Sur Ron. Also take into account that changing the belt to a chain also adds a couple of pounds. All in all, taking into account all the changes that you _dont_ have to do to the Talaria and usually make on a Sur Ron, the Talaria is more like 15lbs heavier after all is said and done.

@hdjdjfjfjdkwkwiwiidkfk3059 2 года назад

All I can think is make it street legal and take my money.

@johahn 2 года назад

Ignore that fool, hit me with what ya got...

@Freebyrd1991 2 года назад

Yikes, such a sting... to the wallet 🤯

@chrissoignier7222 2 года назад

Have you priced e-MTB's or dirt bikes lately? It's pretty cheap vs the alternatives!

@level4racing 2 года назад

toy

@obsidianzarok2361 2 года назад

👎👎

@billadmond9450 Год назад

You put the battery down on the sand then you put it back in the bike without cleaning the bottom of it, you know right the electric contacts are right at the bottom!