I grew up riding, pretty much everything with an engine, and used to dream of something fast & quiet (something that doesn't give away your approach from a mile away). Though I've owned a few, mopeds and golf-carts simply left far too much to be desired in the speed and agility departments. These e-bikes really are a dream come true for some of us.
@@bennetsmith4686 Talaria just dropped a new controller on their Sting R. It's 10% more than the old sting R controller. It can be identified by the new inscribed title STING R. The older version was titled TALARIA. That said, for the year 2025 Talaria is reclaiming its spot at the top of the hill. But to be honest, how can you even compare a Jack-Shaft to a Gear-Box and be honest with yourself?
Amazing that all 4 of you had the exact same tier order at the end. Says a lot about the bikes that different riders of different skill levels all felt the same. Thank you.
Just ordered a e ride pro ss last week and this was a wonderful technical breakdown of all these bikes. Thanks for putting all the work to help future buyers.
79Bike can use a lot of the Surron mods. Its got so much torque from the start. It was my choice and I am a happy owner! Customer support is amazing and now can be modded with the EBMX 9000 V2 if that's your thing. To me I just want a dependable bike to ride trails
If you’re looking for something reliable Sur Ron is good with owning mine over 7000 miles the only thing that we usually break is the belt. It’s not if it’s a definitely when it’s going to break. With that said the Talaria is the winner do to not having a belt but rather a gear box so hands down Talaria is the winner for those wondering. Last thing you need is a belt breaking while running from let’s say fill in the blank or out in the middle of the woods
Great video, thanks! The linkage on my Sting R's was super clunky from the factory. Took me a while to figure out where all the noise was coming from. You can get tighter fitting linkage bolts (with a full shoulder) from the major sellers, or the overkill Titanium variety if you choose. That along with correct torque will fix a lot of the noise on the Sting R. Battery rattle is easy to fix with a small inflatable air jack or even just bubble wrap. Interesting that you lost 2 belts in the test but no issues with the Talaria's gearbox.
Just a small production tip: when exporting the final video, up the bitrate to 40-50mbps to hopefully remove some of the pixelation when driving at a higher rate of speed. Movement in video is killed by a low bitrate.
@@RDEnduro it depends what the bms is, probably work but not get any advantage stock get a fardriver 72680 its like 200 dollars and more power than torp 500
For the issue of beta explorer with brakes sensor. Probably installing a push button wired to the controller brake sensor wires would work. this way you have bypassed your brakes and by the same time made a safety for ignition
Good stuff as always. Wish we could get some lights and signals on some of these (eride pro especially). Would love it to do some light supermoto work during the week for errands, and switch back for dirt rides.
You list the Talaria Sting R as being 140 lbs weight but on the Talaria website the Sting R MX4 (the only Sting R listed) is spec'd at 57 kg or 125.4 lbs. I believe the Talaria website is correct as it has a 60v 45ah battery versus the72v 40 ah battery of the Eride pro SS which does weigh 139 lbs.
Talaria Sting MX3 is the one Ive decided on ...30mm more seat height . 60v 38mah is plenty .. upgrading with Manitou Air and 21 18 conversion, thanks for the help
Trying to get my first bike. I used to ride when I was younger then had to stop because of playing sports. Now I want to get back into it and was looking at getting a gas dirt bike. Then these electric bikes caught my eye and they seem awesome. Thank you for the chance to win one. Hope I’m Lucky!!
Great comparison! Im just a 70 year old 160 lb ,5’5” rider looking for something to replace my 250lb Yamaha XT225 , so I can “Keep on Keepen On riding. I need a low stand over height,reasonably power and great suspension. I think the Talaria might be the best option. I was surprised how little battery mileage was attained but maybe because you were full on riding. I can probably expect double that. I really wish some of these would have a longer battery warranty as the battery is about 1/2 the cost of the bikes.
My first choice would be the E ride pro because i weigh 200 lbs and i think itd be best for me haha Then the talaria sting. Although I'd be happy just having my own wheels haha 😅
Your channel is easily at the top covering the E-moto bike segment with the most comprehensive content. Surprised this channel doesn't have more subscribers. Regarding the MX4, I've read that the newest version has an upgraded controller with "Sting R" embossed on it that pumps out 8.5 - 9kw at peak. Can you guys verify this? I'm on the fence between the MX4 and the SS. Thanks
Thanks for this video guys, I'm new to all this, and have mountain biking background. Super helpful video, I've been stuck on whether to go with the Talaria Sting or eRide Pro SS. My only hurling block is overcoming import taxes into Spain 🇪🇸 Seems to be we can only get the Sur Ron's here.
Great video overall, will be a huge help for people comparing these bikes. One thing to improve in the future. For the top speed, use a phone with a GPS tracker or something like that. Most speedometers just aren't accurate, they are always optimistic.
Best video for us perspective buyers so far. A diverse group of riders and bikes. I have tons of respect for this channel! Now my only concern is which is best for myself at 6'3"?
You'll have to modify any of them to fit you. And you can modify any of them, but sur-ron will have the most extreme modifications, like extended frames and swingarms. If you aren't planning on spending big money on modifications then they are pretty much all equal, grab some different bars.
Surron Ultra Bee, im 5'9 and the Stage2 fits me well as its slightly longer than most tested. but Ultra Bee would destroy any of these and would fit you.
The Ultra Bee is what I want most. For the size and additional power. But those factors are what also would prohibit me from being able to get away with street riding it to work in that gray area. There's finally a street legal option in the NIU XQi3, but it's the least powerful of any. Ugh
I've watched so many reviews and the conclusion is they all need better hold downs for the rattling cables and better lock in designs for the battery 😊
Awesome comparison vid. Appreciate the information! As a brand new very interested in buying a true E-Bike ( just bought my first pedal assist from Walmart), I can see myself easily spending $5K on one of these bikes, probably E Ride SS Pro. Keep the vids coming. Subscribed!
I like these for hunting because they get me where I am going faster. I don’t want to spend forever at 20 mph when I can get there at 50+! Great review and I can’t wait to get one in August!
Hi! A bunch of companys make them. The bigger sur-rons can be bought that way for example. Or look up super soco. The used ones are great priced. And here in hungary can be ridden with only a category B license. (For some reason the lowest power mode is limited to 45-50km/h and so it's a moped... I don't know why. But the highest mode still goes 80km/h) Hope i could help
In the market for my first E-bike and this video was DOPE!! Thanks for the info! Im kinda sold on the Pro SS v2 but I want to know how maintenance is between the top 3 bikes.
For the price i dont think the Talaria can be beat. Add in a gearbox instead of a belt drive and theres a reason i put my money on an mx3. To be fair i only didnt get the mx4 because it was another month before they were shipping last year and it saved me $500. I'm still very happy with the purchase, especially for the low price!
Just go to a beta dealership. I have the same bike and had the same brake problem. They fixed it and i was out riding the next day. I agree the rocket mode is too short. That changes when you get a new controller. It changes to 60 seconds.
I ride a stage 2 M1. It does great on tracks or mountain trails. It would be sweet if they actually did a controller tune or upgrade because the bike is kind of slow in acceleration. Maybe the torp 500 or bac4000 might be better on the bike. Something that can be app controlled. Also front forks are already leaking and I have only had it for a month and only do trail rides.
It is faster, better built, longer range and can go on rides with other gas dirtbikes. The bike you buy neeeds to match the terrain and scope of your rides. I ride in a backyard track by myself and bought a Stage2 M1 and its sick. If I had to ride with other bikes or gas bikes, or exploring new trails there is no way id buy it. Id look at Ultra, or Storm bee or KTM, Alta etc... also that price you listed is almost half off its normal price
I own a 23 freeride and i've owned a light bee and an ultra bee. The freeride is the best bike by far (as it should be based on MSRP and pedigree). Having said that they're in very different classes as far as weight goes. You also can't do any power or range mods to the Freeride. If you're not trying to pretend your bike is a bicycle and ride on mtb trails and what not the freeride is by far the best deal going right now if you find a dealer with those killer deals.
Hello. Maybe you know how to remove the maximum speed limit and make it so that there are no turtle, normal and rocket modes...now it goes a maximum of 60 km / h in normal mode and 70 km / h in rocket mode. For example, on Sur-Ron light bee x, the engine is weaker and the maximum speed is higher. Here the power allows, but somehow limited. I do not want to lag behind Sur-Ron at least
Excellent comparison. For future, it would be good to make sure that rider weights are roughly similar or somehow factored in if not. And I would never follow the speedo built into the bikes, huge errors reported. Many good apps out there to measure speed on a smart phone and keep things more consistent. Both of these make your reported stats of acceleration and top speed suspect. Otherwise excellent review.
$5099 for a RFN and Beta. someone is making a nice profit on those. bought my RFN for $3600 shipped to my door from China same place the US dealers get them. Rocket mode Is 60 seconds now on The 24 bikes . Motoclops has a performance tune (reflashes the stock controller)that wakes the RFN up..from what I am hearing it's a completely different bike and it's a cheap $200 upgrade.
Hi! Could I ask you for some directions? Where can i find these chinese websites? I'm europian and it would be a lot easyer for me to buy an emoto from china. Less legal, but way easyer. I know i could try with alibaba, but i don't know more sites for this. Thanks!
@ElectricCycleRider Hey Guys How do these compare to say an 80cc 2 stroke dirt bike or 125 in regards to acceleration and power Im guessing they wouldn’t have anything on a 250? Cheers
Great shear TY I have a stock out of box Segway x160 :( I want to up grade battery, controller and increase the front tier to something like a 17". I want to do e-bike camping with solar panels and laptop. I need saddlebags. There also might be small amount of snow on shoulders of trails/roads. What typ of tire is fair for dirt, asphalt and sand/snow IE super motor wheels ? Or sell it and get a Talaria Sting r or something ? Any thoughts ?