Talk about copies! Miirym vs Karador vs Edric vs Miirym EDH / CMDR game play

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@myrical4147 Год назад

This is why board wipes are required in commander.

@eastsidemuu Год назад

Word up I run 4 in my deck lol

@thetemp7858 Год назад

I really can't stay away from 2 players playing copy commanders. Edit : I also returned the Edric to Andrew, It spent 4 weeks in my deckbox until I saw him again lmao.

@Threadoflength Год назад

Was nice of you guys to let Mathieu start the game with an emblem that said "creatures you control cannot be blocked"

@kyubeyincubator5533 Год назад

I mean, weren't most of his early creatures unblockable, evasive or shadow?

@Red_Male Год назад

i'm genuinely confused as to why miguel played finale of devastation AFTER combat, and put 8 into the x just to get a rec sage he had enough mana to give his team trample and +X/ +X and probably could have won the game off of that

@DarkEinherjar Год назад

Finale of Devastation gives haste, not trample.

@orgazmo686971 Год назад

@@DarkEinherjar Craterhoof gives Trample and X/X

@Red_Male Год назад

ok but my question isn't answered despite being corrected his dragons have flying

@TheTylerJuneau Год назад

Didn’t get get an Edric trigger from attacking Dom that turn? Probably drew it then

@Khiash Год назад

Yeah I'm guessing he drew it off the Edric trigger during combat.

@connorl0204 Год назад

Ive got two different versions of miirym built but havent had a chance to test either. Both look very fun.

@NarffetWerlz Год назад

In my experience, Edric is a KOS commander. He needs to be neutralized in one way or another or, well, that happens.

@thengine7 Год назад

Edric is cedh. Kill the cedh deck first.

@thetemp7858 Год назад

@@thengine7 I would say CEDH is determined by the deck construction, not the commander.

@davidmartinez-rp4uw Год назад

Well the Mathieus deck has a poor engine, the main issue was the lack of interaction of the other players, in my pod a Edric turn 2 means get removed, destroyed or enchanted 😅

@newtpondskipper Год назад

I like and play Edric and I can't agree more. The value he gives is insane. My deck is borderline cedh and I have to agree that it depends on the deck not the commander if it is considered cedh or not.

@bryanlim9817 Год назад

What's the matter? You all don't like to draw cards. I play Edric too and I expect my opponents to let Edric live. Hey, don't look at me like that. All of us benefit.

@mn6334 Год назад

I took apart a 5c Gyruda companion deck and made Miirym clones instead. It's been super fun. Even when the main plan of making a bunch of Miiryms isn't working I can usually fall back on cloning opponents stuff which can be just as fun.

@DarkEinherjar Год назад

Oh, absolutely... my first game with my Evelyn clone deck, most of the time I was copying the Ur-Dragon player in front of me 😛

@Butcher899 Год назад

Damn, haven't seen a karador deck in so long

@afspeellijstnaruto Год назад

he feels like a worse version of muldrotha. Just (often) cheaper to cast. I got a Kathliss deck though, and maybe Karador could be decent in the 99 as a way to reanimate my stuff.

@AuraXars 2 месяца назад

@@afspeellijstnarutolooking at the list, there is allot of things that you dont get in sultai such as peacekeeper and rule of law creatures, idiot bird, linvala and norn. If you want a hatebears shell with creature combos the perma 3 mana commander is also great 😊

@NT_Escanor Год назад

The edric intro is priceless

@maxbodifee3263 Год назад

They say board wipes are a thing in edh 🙃

@jundsheep7599 Год назад

I remember seeing this live.

@Zeromus5555 Год назад

I love Karador.

@DarkEinherjar Год назад

Yay, Karador

@cas126 Год назад

That Erdric deck was oppressive as hell

@royalfishness1 Год назад

Was there a reason Dom did not block the Dousing Dagger swing with a plant token?? I am really hoping there was some effect im missing or that was a huuuuuuuge misplay

@thetemp7858 Год назад

Did a bit of negotiation

@royalfishness1 Год назад

@@thetemp7858 you must be an excellent negotiator :)

@thetemp7858 Год назад

@@royalfishness1 Thanks haha, I must say that I saved myself in games multiple times with only talking.

@traviselliott3013 Год назад

Umm.. respect to mudstah for having a patreon called sliver tier. That alone makes me wanna see what all rage I'd about it

@astonrichardson5288 Год назад

Cor blimey! Mathieu was gaining SO MUCH value that game! Drawing 7 and discarding 1?! Jesus wept

@DarkEinherjar Год назад

The Edric dilemma: either someone focuses on him and not draw cards, or everyone leaves him alone until it's too late. I see Edric, I'm totally tempted to focus on him because of the extra turn shenanigans.

@thetemp7858 Год назад

My deck had a single extra turn, I focused on equipment theme Edit : after making the decklist I realised I had fewer equipments than I thought, but I focused on a buff theme.

@DarkEinherjar Год назад

@@thetemp7858 I'd still be tempted to focus on you because of the amount of cards you were drawing every turn. 🙃 This game showed how people were willing to ignore Edric, just because they were drawing cards too.

@thengine7 Год назад

@@thetemp7858 edric is cedh. It has to die first.

@newtpondskipper Год назад

@@thetemp7858 you're a good man for not going full extra turn with Edric. I am not but I still applaud you. I still use infect also despite being told that it's "too slow". Guess we aren't cedh level yet lol.

@thetemp7858 Год назад

@@newtpondskipper i hate players taking insanely long turns so I try not doing the same. More fun for everyone

@thelunchlady8276 Год назад

Poor Frogador, we hardly knew ye.

@YayaJiri Год назад

I think this might be a big if, but what if he is still bitter that he didn’t return it?

@MTGMuddstah Год назад

Haha! I saw Mat on Wednesday last week and got it back.

@dichsedichse Год назад

So why was mathieu allowed to get through with the dowsing dagger? Am i missing something?

@thetemp7858 Год назад

Negotiations

@roberthancock6870 Год назад

The Edric Moxfield link seems to be broken

@xanderfurash9938 Год назад

Edric!!!!

@latinojackson9694 Год назад

Doesn't Rite if Replication just make another copy of a 1/1 Legitimate Businessperson since that's what Selvala is?

@thetemp7858 Год назад

It copies the OG card

@studentmoviesandvibes1671 Год назад

The only thing that stops a new busted commander are old busted commanders lmao

@SackA11ack Год назад

What am I missing? Was the rite of replication targeting selvala just a troll play?

@fairy-nova5455 Год назад

no i needed a selvala for mana i believe. and copy spells copies the og card not the 1/1 legitimate buisness person version of it

@TheChiminguito Год назад

706.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object's characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The "copiable values" are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by "as . . . enters the battlefield" and "as . . . is turned face up" abilities that set characteristics, and by abilities that caused the object to be face down. Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, and counters are not copied.

@karibou77 Год назад

Did Mathieu forgot to discard after his first swing with the looter ?

@thetemp7858 Год назад

I don't think so... maybe I did it a bit late but pretty sure I did it

@karibou77 Год назад

@@thetemp7858 OK. I said that because I was still seeing the three visits on the top of the graveyard, but I can't see what was underneath it 😁

@kevinkennedy3643 Год назад

Board wipes would've been great. Or you know any removal that wasn't from Miguel

@DarkEinherjar Год назад

When your deck aims to swarm the battlefield with dragons, board wipes aren't very common...

@kevinkennedy3643 Год назад

@@DarkEinherjar yeah ik but at least some spot removal.

@sunflowertheog Год назад

@@DarkEinherjar i don't see how anyone builds a deck without boardwipes, you'll never win if you just let 3 players do whatever

@stevenrahman8972 Год назад

Miirym Mirror match...

@SurgingChaos19 Год назад

This was honestly a very poor game, simply because the disparity in the power level clearly showed here. The Miirym and Karador decks were clearly not prepared to deal with a deck that can aggressively cast Edric on turn 2. Once Dom let Edric through and let Dowsing Dagger transform (seriously... why not just block with the plant token you just got?), the game was pretty much over right then and there. Even a board wipe wouldn't have really helped out here. The Edric player was drawing so many cards and had so much mana (thanks to the Lost Vale) that Edric would have been able to immediately rebuild after a board wipe and continued to pile on the pressure. You have to stop Edric before its creatures start connecting. Once that engine gets going, it's too late. The snowball effect is just too crushingly powerful to stop, especially against slower decks.

@thesxex Год назад

that's the usual Edric problem, the deck consistently punches way above its weight class. $10 of random evasive commons, mana dorks, and a couple overrun effects is already about on par with most $100 casual lists

@tiagomoreira8408 Год назад

when the creature equips with lightning greaves the other equipment should fall, right?

@kingholxx Год назад

four players and no boardwipe :D

@joeymunn7 Год назад

Proving why simic is the most annoying color combination in commander. Always eliminate the simic player first no matter what, even if you have to team up.

@thengine7 Год назад

Edric is specifically cedh. But yes, green is good.

@davidmartinez-rp4uw Год назад

Well the Mathieus deck has a poor engine, the main issue was the lack of interaction of the other players, in my pod a Edric turn 2 means get removed, destroyed or enchanted 😅

@BIGxWIGGLY Год назад

Scrap karador and turn it into tayam

@MTGMuddstah Год назад

I'm actually thinking of turning him into that Bug thing that gets counters based on what stuff has in your own graveyard?

@eloisemumm Год назад

I was excited for this game at first due to the possibility of crazy stuff happening with two Miiryms on field, but it kind of wound up being the least interesting deck playing solitaire the whole time. booooo simic.

@moedark4390 Год назад

I know its me but i just dont like it when two people have the same commander

@benjaromis1 Год назад

I mean i saw the commanders at the start and i would have bet all my money instantly on the spy bastard. Its a simic semi cedh commander. You just cant play against that one without fast combo decks or a lot of mass removal....lel

@Blacklodge_Willy Год назад

First:) 💙

@AnticlimacticPangolin Год назад

Always remove edric 😂

@PallaDrak Год назад

Edric, not E-Dric

@gibbysg8143 Год назад

Extra turn spells are so lame. It’s the most overpowered, laziest card design I’ve ever seen

@tonnie901 Год назад

just counter them. personally i hate cheap ramp spells more

@nikos731 Год назад

@@tonnie901 When the only answer to something is "play blue and counter them" and nothing else, you know it is indeed an op and lazy design.....

@mckenziestone3302 Год назад

@@nikos731 red elemental and pyro blast exist

@nikos731 Год назад

@@mckenziestone3302 Ok. I will correct it. "When the only answer to something is to play VERY SPECIFIC COLORS AND CARDS and counter them (in Red/White there are only like 1-3 cards available thus hard to always have at hand at the time, in Green/Black there are 0), you know it is indeed op and lazy design". Better?

@faerie7dragon Год назад

Man, Miirrym is kinda lame, just Simic with a Dockside splash for Dragons.

@rhainex5952 Год назад

Honestly I don't even know why they showcased this game. Based on all the comments this was a already written on the wall and everyone knew the outcome. Poor choice of a game I just skipped to the end after edric swung with dowsing dagger.