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This makes me think of the Angels episodes of Doctor Who, who act more like demons and live off the potential temporal energy of those they feed on. That may be why they prefer to have the young because a younger person dying would lose a lot more potential life.
for me i loved how ambigous the fate of mia's dad is. it can be interpreted as him leaving the hospital because jade mananged to save him and he healed his neck wound, or he is taking the elevator up to the afterlife. and mia cant follow him because she is stuck in limbo.
Like ur take in that ending, but I read on another video that Jade specifically mentioned that she called the ambulance to come aid Mia’s dad before flat out saying “she’s dangerous”
With regards to Mia's dad in the last scene...i feel he healed and that it took time..as in months...it's just things are moving real fast in Mia's time since she's dead...same applies to Riley as we get different shots of him being completely healed in the first shot and later discharged in the second.
Can we talk about how they depicted limbo? One of the most horrifying hellish pieces of imagery I’ve ever seen in a movie. Exactly how you’d picture hell, brilliantly done
It’s a pretty harrowing scene, if you watch closely you can see one of the demons/ghosts eating a baby. The directos said the original scene was like 2 mins long of absolutely horrific gory imagery depicting hell but they decided to cut it down.
@@williammiller496I felt the same way. I feel like you couldn't take anything Mia saw during her hauntings at face value. Limbo could've been just a fabrication
The ghost was also losing the ability to mimic her mother. The ghost was slowly going back to looking like the drowned ghost that she saw. You can see the subtle changes in the ghost's appearance throughout the movie.
Yes I did notice that too. Theres two other things I noticed, one that the first time Mia was possessed the ghost inside her mentions how "he" really likes Riley and then when Riley and Mia are sleeping a hand comes to pat Riley on his cheeks. This I think is a separate entity that is working with Mias ghost.
Her “mom” was actually the drowned lady…she starts to look more and more like her each time she contacts mia. Another YTer pointed out that the boyfriend’s initial possessor ‘outed’ the boyfriend. Also that the spirit that inhabited riley was maybe the first one that the drowned lady in mia said “he likes you”
Yep exactly, that wasn't her mother at all that she saw in her mind. It was the drowned lady that possessed Mia the first time she tried. She went over 90 seconds as well, and that's probably what triggered that spirit/demon to stay inside her mind during the entire film. Everything that Mia was experiencing and the deception she saw in the film was all caused by that evil spirit that invaded her mind after the first hand possession.
@@drunkgforce1 I meant earlier then that. Her “mom” literally told her her dad was a lier and was going to hurt her and then a fake dad comes in and attacks her and she can hear her real dad trying to break down the door to help her. So she should know right then and there that her real dad wasn’t the bad one and that the “mom” she was seeing was the one lying.
Her “mom” was never her mom. It was always that spirit that drowned cause you could slowly see her mother turning back into it throughout the movie. Each scene she’d have more water on her. Mia is even told at one point that the spirits can read their deepest thoughts so that’s why it knew how to act like her mother
That ending was good... but does anybody else think that MIA was an unlikable character? That last half of the movie made me not care for her for all the things she did, and it felt weird because she's the main character...
I think it adds to her character. I wouldnt believe the things she does in the movie as much if she didnt have this crazy, hard to like character. I mean after the movie ended i just kept thinking this stupid bitch caused EVERYTHING bad. But the more i think about her trauma with her mother, the more i realise why she acts the way she does.
@@Bjergkanin45 she is a fictional character written by people with the use of imagination. Not an actual black person. People you see in movies are complete fiction and not real. Now you know.
Loved the breakdown, Paul. I love hearing everyone's different interpretations. My take on Mia's death was that she actually sacrificed herself in order to save Riley and others from herself and how dangerous she had become as she was continually being manipulated by evil spirits. I think Mia throws herself into traffic rather than being pushed by her friend Jade or the evil spirit pretending to be her mother. Mia clearly has a realization when the spirit impersonating her mother tells her that “WE will take care of him (Riley) forever.” She knows that it’s not actually her mom and that she has been manipulated this whole time. Manipulated into stabbing her father, manipulated into nearly killing Riley. She sacrifices herself to protect those she loves. She knows she just stabbed her dad and that she is a danger to those around her. The subtle acting from Sophie Wilde shows that she has a realization of some sort, and she clearly takes her hands off the wheelchair right before it cuts to the crash. Leading me to believe that she jumped out into traffic rather than her being pushed by Jade or the spirit. That was just my take. I agree with your assessment of Duckett and his bro, and the end being a mirror of that, but I just like to think that Mia actually had more agency and choice in her own death rather than being manipulated until the end. There are loads of nuances and ways to interpret the ending, but I think you did an excellent job. Cheers.
Wouldn't she realise she's dead at the end then? The way it plays out definitely suggests she's unaware of what's happened until she touches the hand and enters the world of the living again
@@nutta4236 I think that's the thing, regardless of whether you think she was pushed or she killed herself, she doesn't actually realize she's dead until she grabs the person's hand at the party. She seems to be in a sort of limbo, unaware of the fact that she has gone over to the other side. I get what you are saying, that she would be consciously aware of her choice, and thus know that she's dead. But none of us knows what happens to a person when they die. Do they have all their memories? Do they remember how they died? It's a lot of inference, but yeah, I'm totally fine too with the take that the spirit pushed her. I don't think I'm right and others are wrong. I appreciate the convo though. Cheers Nutta.
Oh- I went back to see at the moment the truck swerved and the car behind “ hit something” you can see that she gets pushed into the street by the sister. I was also questioning if she threw herself at first!
Her death was also foreshadowed before too when it said "he stabbed his brother and then killed himself" she did the same when she stabbed her dad and the "killed herself"
I reluctantly started watching this movie, and after the first ten minutes I was completely scuked into it. It's a really well done horror film and has quickly become one of my favorites.
Detail I'd like to point out - Riley who fell asleep next to Mia watching ' Who Wants To Be A Millionaire' - On that show you get up to 3 "lifelines" which include a phone call. We do see in the movie that she ignored 2 calls from her Dad. To me it symbolizes the 2 deaths - 1 being her mom then later 1 being her. Just a thought, but overall a great horror movie. The concept was refreshing to see!
It’s actually because the producers of this film are RU-vidrs who are friends with the RU-vidrs Riley was watching. That wasn’t actually who wants to be a millionaire, it was a youtube video
I'd argue even one of the best of all time. It isn't revolutionary in terms of its concepts, i.e., it not reinventing the wheel, but its a damn good wheel.
@@ConnerTurmon one of the best of all time lol man you must have a low bar in movies. It was a decent movie but nothing to even put in even in the top 50 of horror movies.
@@E84-l4git was amazing a24 has put out straight bangers of movies I’m really hard on newer movies they’re all pretty mid we were spoiled with 90’s and and early 2000 movies in all genre
With regards to Mia's dad in the last scene...i feel he healed and that it took time..as in months...it's just things are moving real fast in Mia's time since she's dead...same applies to Riley as we get different shots of him being completely healed in the first shot and later discharged in the second.
Mia’s dad had family who cared, they had all just visited him and her. None of them were with him, and none of the staff of the hospital acknowledged him.
The film is an allegory for addiction. Of course there are other elements to it as well, but most people who watch it think, "Why would anyone do that?" Why would you touch the hand in the first place? It seems extremely scary and dangerous.That's exactly what I thought, it makes no sense, but... I'm a recovering addict! 🤦♀There are SO many times in my life that I can look back on now and think, "Why did I do that?! I could have died! I could have become majorly addicted!" (I'm someone who has experimented with almost everything, but ironically, got addicted to wine...The "tame," legal stuff. That's what sent me to rehab and almost ruined my life.) A lot of times you watch horror movies and think that the characters are making stupid decisions (which they usually are), but if you watch this film and think, "That would never happen," you're just wrong. Almost every heroin addict had a moment where they decided, "I'm going to try heroin." Why? That's asinine. Why would anyone do that to themselves? But we do. The opioid epidemic is getting worse every day. So many of us have "touched the hand" and "invited the spirit in" even though it makes no logical sense. And a lot of people end up in a state of hell on earth because of it. What a fantastic film! I love "smart" horror. The scary parts were really scary and the story made sense. (Although I did walk away with some questions, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.) Too many horror films these days have a great premise but blow it by the end, but this one was strong from start to finish.
Yep, eventhough its a horror/suspense film, the story in this one actually goes pretty deep and very relatable in real life situations/addicts. Glad to see u recovering and hope ur health and life continues to go upward from here on out! 👍
At first I had the same idea…like who in their right mind would ever go this but in reality…these are all teenagers. Which we can all take in we’ve done stupid stuff especially with peer pressure and when put in with the addition feeling and the trauma of mom leaving… I can see how Mia got hooked on quick
@@himothy9871 A lot of people would! I'm a skeptic, I don't believe in the supernatural or the afterlife or a god, etc., but I think it would be awesome if heaven existed. I think that when you die, you just die, but if there were an afterlife, that would be pretty cool. It would certainly make losing a loved one much easier, knowing that you'd see them again someday. So, yeah, the skeptic in me would 100% say, "Bring it on!" LOL If this were real, I would either think that everyone was faking it, or there was a logical explantation. Like, maybe the hand is coated in some kind of hallucinogenic and people touching it are just really tripping. I would definitely want to see for myself what everyone else was claiming to see.
@ikapatino3214 yeah it could be different time has time has passed maybe it was a year or 2 but I would love to see how Mia would possess the man and if she would stay in and try to contact her friend
I fully expected the twist ending to be that it was her mother's hand. The fact that (1) everything seemed to be setting that up, and (2).that they never answered who's hand it actually was, makes me feel like they were deliberately with-holding the hand's origin (whether they end up having it belong to Mia's mum, or if that's just a mia-direct), to save it for a sequel... ...which is such a scummy tactic, it makes me hope they DON'T make sequel (but they will, coz 2024)
Hey Paul, I always enjoy your breakdowns and I've been an avid viewer for quite a while. Normally, I'm content to sit back, enjoy, hit the like the button and all that jazz, however with this movie I feel you missed something incredibly big. Perhaps it's because of my own struggles, but this movie seems like a metaphor for addiction. It perfectly recreates what it's like to try new drugs at parties in your teenage years. Your eyes even dilate when "taking a hit". She comments on how good it feels and keeps going back for "one more hit". Addiction is also genetic so it's very possible that the same diseases is how her mother passed away. Also, as much as I enjoyed the two characters who were the "keepers" of the hand they really screamed "drug dealer" to me. I think the grief angle hits pretty deep to as addiction itself comes with it's own form of grief, especcially when you've lost people to same drug you're using, but overall I think it's more addiction as a whole rather than just grief. Anyway, I hope you have a great one, man! Keep up the great work!
Exactly what I thought after seeing the first scene with the hand! I used to be a drug addict (for 17 years) and the whole movie seems like one big warning for doing drugs. Even the "suicide" letter from Mias mom had drug abuse references - and she may not have killed herself - it could be an accidental overdose. Nevertheless this movie is right up there with It Follows and Hereditary. Scary and thoughtful.
I think the spirits effects would’ve weaken had Mia stopped using the hand but she uses it fairly regularly thru out the film after her first time I also think since she went over her first time the spirits had a stronger hold on her and we’re able to stay longer especially when she keeps using the hand
Yes. The guy at the start and Mia kept using the hand, so the grip of the demons got stronger. Riley stayed over 99 seconds and had bad consequences, but his experience ith the hand was one and done. I think he was freed over time and back to normal.
just finished the movie & came here. missed so much! i do think that the ghost she allowed to possess her the first time manipulated her the entire time. the ghost of her mother gets more “wet” & bloated - which is a reference to staying in water for a long time.
I loved the scene where her eyes get huge and she starts singing in french, and it was super cute how they were dooing selfies with her and she just looks like a confused child
When the little girl said "I'll let you in" mia experienced what it was like to be a child trapped in eternity with grieving mothers.. all of the naked women were trying to 'claim' riley, as he was the closest thing to what they lost
why do you think they were all grieving mothers? I disagree with this part.... I think they are want to consume to his life essence, abuse him, corrupt his innocence, and torment his soul. In the scene from the void, where they are all on him and around him, they are naked and all over him as he is struggling and basically being molested. It doesn't really remind me of mothers wanting to be around their children...Its more like they get a cat-nip-like high from their life-force, similarly to how the teens get a kind of high from being possessed, but way more intense. In that same scene form the void (which was originally two minutes of gruesome footage they decided to trim) there is a big, rotted spirit who seems to be on top of Riley, and that is likely the most evil spirit or some kind of daemon that running things down there.. and the first ghost refers to him:. "he likes you, he'll split ya boy, he'll split ya....there he is....he's right behind you". This spirit is the one controlling everything. In fact, it is clear he has the drowned-woman-spirit doing his bidding, and the whole Mia's mother speaking through Riley part was actually her pretending, and it was initially done just to get passed 90 seconds so the evil one could possess Riley. You can even notice how the spirit doesn't reveal any hint it is her mother until like 50 seconds (their original agreed cutoff time for Riley). I think this one spirit or daemon is much more powerful, and he can use and manipulate the other spirits and their established connection to living humans. That also why after the first seance, when Riley is sleeping next to Mia, she gets up and caresses his head in a sweet way, and then we see a rotted hand caressing him a super creepy way. She is connected to Mia and this [and possibly other] powerful entities can sort of use this doorway, but I think the doorway isn't fully open since Mia barely went over 90sec.
@@7thangelz i was wondering whether it was real, and if after she found out from the hand, the evil spirit manipulated what she saw and made up a reason to further benefit their cause (getting and keeping Riley)… because her fake mother never brought it up until after she saw it. And we do know they are obsessed and very much want Riley, so it would track. But also yea I could see if it was all a trick also.
@@d3maccusI agree with you. I think it's like in insidious. Riley must have seen one of the most powerful demon so when Riley saw it he was surprised but since Mia exceeded the 90 secs limit she thought what Riley saw was her mom, so the devil used Riley to confuse Mia so that Mia can help the devil kill Riley while it is still in Riley's body. The devil needed Mia's help to get Riley. You remembered that the longer the spirit stays in his body, it weakens and eventually will get out, maybe because he is still young so the devil couldnt capture him so he needed Mia to offer Riley to the devil
@@viennaz3522 totally in with you. Also reminds me of conjuring 2 where the demon controls the ghost of the old man.(mixed with insidious). Regarding the last part, the evil forces did have a pretty good grasp in Riley (but the person needs to die to capture fully). Anytime the sedatives would wear off he would try to kill himself, so they had a much stronger grasp on him than MIA. However I think MIA repeatedly using the hand (and having it in her possession) escalated the over-90sec-bridge between her snd that was already created.
According to me, this movie exactly depicts the point - stages of grief. 1. We saw that Mia never accepted her mother's demise. 2. Secondly, she was angry with her father as she continuously blamed him for her mother's death. 3. The hand acts as a factor in the "bargaining stage", where she deals with her grief by getting addicted to that hand, or because the ghost portrays herself to be her mother. 4. We saw her already being in a depression right from the start of this movie. 5. Sadly, we never got to see Mia going to the "acceptance" stage. Also, this movie has some heavy symbolism. One of which was addiction to drugs. Hats off, great work!!!
I think Jade saved her brother at the end, just in the nick of time, the same way she saved him just in time from cracking his head wide open on the table(shelf?) by putting her hand down; also combined with the entity losing its “grasp” on Mia so she let go which made it easier for Jade to do whatever she actually did to save her brother (i.e. pushed her or grabbed the wheelchair).
I went back to the moment where the truck swerved and you see Jade right behind Mia, holding the chair. But the camera pans away so you can’t see what happened before she gets hit, but I assume she pushed her to get her away from Riley.
@@SuperSpasticNinja before she sacrificed herself her mom told her "We'll have him forever." I think that's when she realized her mom was evil and then jumped into the road.
To me, the movie is about attempt and failure to connect and communicate with others. The hand *could* represent phones/ tech/internet. Mia is motivated by loneliness and wants to use the hand to achieve connection and communication, but there are other forces she's barely aware of using it to deceive her, alienate her from her real friends, and gain something for themselves.
But the internet/phones can also be a good thing. There are suicide prevention hotlines now, support groups for recovering addicts, etc. Whereas with drugs they’re pretty much all bad. Especially with prolonged usage - as the movie shows. It also speaks to how letting them in too long basically binds the demons to you just like abusing drugs can cause permanent damage. I was surprised to see not that many people point this out. I thought it was super obvious that’s what it was an allegory for. Even down to the big huge dilated eyes when “taking a hit.”
The kangooroo at the beginning foreshadowed riley's injuries, and in the hospital the kangooroo walks away and riley is free. It's definitely the best disturbing movie of the year for me!
Would there be any merit to the idea that the spirits had previously committed suicide? Makes the hell or purgatory-ish ‘lights out’ ending even more eerie. But we saw this fate quite a bit…Mia, Mia’s mother, Coles brother etc.
The mother looks like the wet/water ghost Riley talks/connects to. With similar wet/watery skin and the eyes and skin seem the same almost. This cannot be the mother as she didn't die in water, by water, or around water. You touched on this with the rain/water link.
@@rhyno514 The mother was never involved. Even in Riley's possession it was an imitation so they would allow Riley to go over 90 seconds uninterrupted. Once the spirit had a firm grasp on him, it is when it attempted to kill him ASAP. The drowned ghost was most definitely not the mother either. The point of the father's letter is to show to the audience that the ghost was lying, but Mia couldn't cope with reality, so she only believed the version she wanted.
This movie is ‘beyond’ horror - it does well to work with every essential trope in a subtle way for the most part, what was overwhelming for me was how authentic it was. As an Aussie, I felt like these could have been my best friends in the way some of this is portrayed. The acting is so genuine & every single character gets their own story arc that’s fulfilled - such a good film.
I was hoping for a bit more depth in this analysis. I mean, it’s a synopsis of the movie, sure. But I feel like there’s so many possibilities to explore with Riley. Like, what did Riley Actually see when he touched the hand? Was it really Mias mom? I think if it was, he would have immediately looked at Mia, or at least said something. Instead, whatever it was seemed to take his breath away, but there was a hint of recognition on his face. Because he never looked away. He didn’t even flinch. He almost seemed more confused than anything else. What would cause that reaction?? And the fact that, whatever it was, stayed after the seance; presumably because they forgot to blow out the candle, it was hell bent on mutilating and murdering Riley. I think because of this, it was decidedly Not Mia’s mother he saw, and perhaps a demon or evil spirit of some kind. Anybody else think about this? There’s so much to consider here
I think you nailed most of the big points, and a movie like this really thrives in some of the contrast between light and dark, and pointing out the mirrors is a great bit of world building. One thing I was curious to hear about is something they played with , which is age. They made a big deal about not letting someone of a certain age play, which just seems like a standard precaution but there is a blink and you miss is bit of baby eating in one scene. It makes me wonder if the spirits become euphoric when in the presence of someone really young, and if that contributed in their unwillingness to let him go.
In the film, when a spirit enters the body it acts out how it died. In Riley’s case, Mia’s mum possessed Riley for the first 90 seconds but then the “evil man spirit” forced her out and that was when he acted the way he was when dying. Since it was already way over 90 seconds (2 minutes) the spirit was able to possess Riley longer and with that in mind, he attempted to kill him but failed. Mia was also possessed by the drowned evil spirit but she went along with a manipulative plan to get Mia’s soul. In the end, it was Mia’s fake mum (drowned evil spirit) that tried to first kill Riley for the other spirit and then kill Mia but it failed and only Mia died.
Riley also tried to kill himself when he was possessed (and again later) which is how Mia's mother died. I don't know how significant that is, as it does seem like Riley was possessed by that old guy.
Phenomenal movie. Watched this with my daughter in a completely empty theater. It was a special experience. I believe this will be in conversations with the best horror movies of all time. And I know I'm not alone in that.
Don’t be a recency bias person bro. No doubt it was a really fun watch, and definitely one of the best horror L’s released in recent times, but I’m not sure about one of the Greatest of all time.
Yeah yeah yeah great breakdown. Like, comment, and subscribed. Can we discuss the dog and the foot plz? I think there’s some deeper meaning behind those scenes.
Oh my gosh watching this back I just realized some key parts idk if others did. 1st the spirits wanted a PURE soul to torcher not just a kid. Which is why they chose Riley and not his friend who we saw was a bad influence on Riley. 2nd mia’s mom was never really in the movie, if she was it could’ve possibly been the one who first possessed Riley which is why Riley looked at Mia before letting in the spirit, but going longer than 90 second and Mia making hand contact with both Riley and the hand opened the possibility of Riley getting possessed by the old man we see at the end of the movie. Since they want Riley so bad they tried to kill him instantly but was stopped. 3rd the demon that possessed Daniel was actually the old lady that we see sucking on his toes, I believe this because it appeared the soul was a sort of nymphomaniac and started sucking on the dogs tongue. 4th the kangaroo actually represents Riley. I say this because it was a symbol to trick Mia into believing that “putting it out its misery is the best thing” and since Mia didn’t kill the kangaroo they tease her by showing it’s still struggling hence Riley.
I love the breakdown. Same with midsommar and hereditary as grieving doesn’t have a shortcut and they’re somewhat easily manipulated bc they still on their grief state. I also think the dad is healed, same with the first scene which he is stabbed his brother and later on we see him fully healed.
I think mia JUMPED in front of the car. Remember, her "mom" said "He'll be all ours". Which is what the ghosts wanted. Mia snap back into reality when she heard her ghost-mother say that, and saved Riley by jumping.
For me there's a bigger meaning to this movie. Like let's imagine for a second those are not possessions, but drugs and Mia is actually going through the psychotic breakdown, bc she doesn't understand why her mom passed away. She suspect her committing a suicide but at the same time she doesn't understand how would ber mom left her like that. So in the process she starts to blame her dad. Then, if her father TALKED TO HER and have her a supportive hand when she needed it, maybe none of those would happen. But he didn't. And if you look basically at parents in the movie you'll notice they're not really parenting much. It's like trust teenagers are left to themselves. So there's a simple message actually, for the parents to talk with their kids before some strangers do this first (ghosts in the movie) or they will try to seek for other solutions on their own ( seeking alternative realities aka possessions).
I didn't even expect to see the twins from a episode of Cold Ones be the ones making a dope ass movie ....That's the 1st time I came across them when they went with Chad and Max to some opal town haha.... Damn they blew me away
I absolutely loved the movie. I'm feeling so pampered as a Horror fan, we are getting so many horror movies this month and the next. I'm watching every movie I can in theaters and I'm planning to bench every single one during Halloween.
The elevator with the dad going up will always give me chills, it's a sign she's in purgatory, but not hell because she'll still have to get on to determine her destination.
Loved your breakdowns. I also personally felt like themes of the movie were definitely those of perpetual lonliness and solitude through not communicating honeslty. Most of the relationships in the movie feel stilted and rigid from lack of communication. Mia and Max, Jade and Daniel, Jade and her mom, Jade and Riley, Daniel and Mia and then this is paralleled by the main "talk to me" line with the ghosts. I really loved this movie
Rakka rakka said themselves that there’s a hidden something in one of the scenes near the end that explains a lot but idk what they are talking about. Was looking for a video to explain that but nobody has found it yet I guess.
Think you need to re look at the father at the end. The elevator he gets in goes up. I don’t think the creators would have made it so obvious if he was just getting in the lift. I believe this is saying he is going to heaven while she is stuck in the hand as a soul trapped there.
@@springroll58 The racka racka boys made it overly obvious that this was the direction he was travelling, if the hospital they were filming at actually did require him to go up, I don’t think they would have made it so obvious. Very impressed with racka racka for this film. They really did well with it. I thought it would just but RU-vidr made film trying to make scary things on screen, but it actually seems like they’ve thought deeply on what the story is above the plot. Things like this are just examples of this. My girlfriend doesn’t know who Racka Racka are and she loved it also. There are intentions of making a sequel so I look forward to that.
I gave it a 6 out of 10, which for horror movies may as well have been a 10/10. I was entertained with this one, especially the ending. Very surreal, and to bring up her missing reflection, very flavorful. The odd transition from her getting up from the road, to being back at the hospital, and to see time passing instantly (Riley being healed and leaving, same as her dad) was very tastefully done. To blackness, only to see a faint candlelight in the distance. Hit hard, and was a satisfying ending IMO
Talk To Me is was the only horror movie-and I’ve seen thousands and own millions-that ever frightened me. It touches me spiritually because of limbo, the “dark” blue room peopled with nightmarish loneliness. Sorta reminds me of today’s world lol Anyway, a gem of a film
The movie is a metaphor for teenage drug use- while some teens come out of it unscathed, some are changed forever or worse; we see this play out in many ways: the possessions most commonly happen during parties, people feel peer pressure (or a desire for escape) that causes them to participate, a ritual is involved while using, the hand is passed from teen to teen like something illicit, and most importantly... possession changing someone's perception of reality to the point that they might harm themselves or others.
If anyone watched Constantine lately will realise the water is the medium which lubricates the journey through hell “The mystic journey is often "lubricated" by immersion in water; in induces an altered state of consciousness in many cultures. It's particularly common in a kind of Jewish ritual magic/mysticism called merkaba.”
someone shapeshifting? it’s the drowned woman. Her ability to copy the mom gets weaker as the spirit grows weaker, and the ghost appearing as her mother looks more and more drowned (the ghosts true form) as time goes on.
I think the hand in the foreign country is just the other hand that they alluded to earlier in the movie. so the original hand is still on that pillow/window sill. and someone local will likely end up with it again for the second movie.
It's not, because the alive person reaches out with the same hand as during the rest of the film. Would have been better if they used their other arm instead.
Spoilers. I just watched the movie and i had one nitpicky problem with it. I didn't like he a room full of people who already knew the little brother went over time just watched him bang his head. So often on movies i think they almost go out of there way to write scenes lazy so that they can get to the big moment. They could have portrayed it happening too fast or him flying across the room first so that they couldn't get to him immediately. Personally i think it's possible but not likely it would play out like the movie. Regardless though it completely alienated me from the main character. I'm my eyes she just watched someone she considered a brother choke in front of her for like 5-10 seconds and then bash himself almost to death with her right infront. It made me care for her character like 80% less and i think that made the movie less effective. Often i see movies do stuff like that and i feel like they think you'll just keep going with the flow but i keep track lol.
I just wanted Mia to die after that smashing scene .....if she wanted to talk to her mom she can take the hand herself and try it alone not to risk other people life. And the dude who own the hand knows exactly what would happen after the time limit..so he was dumb to allow it in the first place
If I learned anything from Supernatural assuming these aren’t demons and just ghost possessions I’m running to the kitchen and grabbing the salt. The lighting that damn hand on fire.
You know the sister pushed the other girl to save her brother and not the girl sacrificing herself to save the kid. At the end after listening to her imposter mother she does realize that she isn't her real mother but she is actually pushed to the road by her friend. That's why she doesn't know what happened afterwards and is seen confused and running after her father.
Glad you reviewed this. I saw it for Regal's Mystery Movie Monday like 6 weeks ago and i really did not understand the ending. Been waiting for this breakdown since!
09:26 This is common dream yoga (lucid dreaming) practice within Tibetan Buddhism...if you can't see your reflection on mirror, body of waters etc...you're dead or in the dreaming world; as both considered a bardo (the world in-between worlds); For lucid dreaming, not seeing one's reflection is the trigger to gain lucidity when one is dreaming....same function as Leonardo Dicaprio's top that spins in the movie "Inception".
it feels like foreshadowing when the ghost possessing Mia turns to Riley and says he will 'split you open' . Like Riley's head splitting against the table, and maybe a more insidious meaning about Rileys treatment in limbo./ Also there's an old superstition that the left hand is the devil's hand. It's why people used to be made write with their right hand in school
I feel like the film ended perfectly. The message was loud and clear. I think the second part is going to be the origin of the hand and maybe end where the movie started. The two brothers being in possession of the hand.
I interpreted the hand scene at the end being used by the group of men speaking a foreign language as the other hand of the medium. Remember them saying the other hand could still be out there somewhere? Just my thoughts!
Just watched this movie and loved it! This movie will go with time as one of the best spooky/horror film of it's time, eventually grabbing it's audience and become a cult favorite just like Sixth Sense did. A Definite watch around Halloween time. Kudos to everybody involved in making this film.
I like to think that Mia absorbed the spirits inside Riley and threw herself into traffic to save his life. At the very end when her "mom" is talking to her she realizes it's not really her mom, so she sacrifices herself to save him. This was a very creepy movie, and the directors already said they'd make a sequel if asked, so I hope A24 asks them lol
The spirit that went into Riley was already getting weaker because he didn't keep using the hand. Jade said that Riley was starting to talk normally and he seemed quite surprised when he saw Mia with the scissors over him. Whether Mia jumped or was pushed is unclear, but she didn't absorb the spirit. The spirit's grip over Riley just faded .
I was saving this up to watch on a quiet night with the lights out, one window open with the blinds up. I look at this as a yummy little horror pastiche and as such, I'm giving it a rare 10/10. There are so many movies that completely blow it at the end. I was holding my breath, hoping I wasn't going to hurt again. I'm the horror version of that ⚽🏆 announcer yelling, "GOOOOAAAALLLLL!!!!" As the lights shut down in the hospital I couldn't breathe. It felt like lying in a coffin and hearing dirt hitting the lid. I do think Max lived, btw.
If you slow down the moment when Mia dies, you can see that Jade pushes her into the street and then she gets hit. So I don’t think it was actually her sacrificing herself
what nobody in the comments is explaining is the last scene by the bridge, the car looks like it hits a ghost theres no person visible and the other drivers seemingly don't see anyone either. When she stands up after apparently being the cause of the accident nobody can see her doing so, so the question is when did she actually die?.. Also another note is her mom/spirit says "he will be ours forever" so implying she's also in the afterlife already at this point?..
Loved the movie! Was confused why she was the only one with the connection still, as they made a point to have Josh say no one else was... did she not blow out a candle? Other people touched Riley and all character were miserable / possible prey for the hand... literally one shot of the candle still burning at the end of the movie in her bedroom would've tied a solid bow on this otherwise great flick
From your video i take the idea that that was never mias mother but Just a demon Who wanted to make her kill herself. Hayley at some point says that the spirits can change their shape. Demons here are Always selfdestruction, as its in real Life. Psychological dramas masked as a Supernatural horror: brilliant
7:48 It's because Mia kept using the hand so the hold and hallucinations were stronger the more Mia used the hand, I believe it was just 1 ghost stuck in the hand, who could shapeshift and make hallucinations, that got into many peoples bodies and learned many things,... when it pretended to be the drowned ghost it got into Mia's body and learned about her mom, when it got into the kid it shapeshifted into the mom to trick Mia. Mia dying caused the 1 ghost to be free and Mia to take it's place to be the new shape shifting ghost in the hand.
