Tamar said that boy is a free spirit lolol. Tamera's advice is excellent. When you start giving kids structure at an early age, they are more disciplined and more inclined to listen to instruction. This prevents the child from doing whatever they want to do. It all starts with the parent.
Oh gosh tamar is going to be that parent up at parents teacher conference like my baby would never do these things whole time the child is tearing up the school.
Trust me, she really is. I can tell that from a distance. And I’m not just saying that because she is one of my favorite Disney actresses. My parents raised me and my sisters nearly just like Adam and Tamera raise their children.
Girl shut up he's 2 YEARS OLD !!!! ITS HARD RAISING A CHILD AND ETC AND HOW TF U KNOW IF HE LISTENS TO HIS MOM OR NOT?! MIND UR BUSINESS AND MAKE SURE THAT UR CHILDREN LISTEN TO U
+Helga G Pataki well she better know how to stop spoiling because habits and personality shape from childhood...just hope the kid wont become an entitled brat who throws hissy fits
Everything Tamera said about over-stimulation before sleep goes for adults too. I have the same issue, powering everything down at night and surprise, surprise, it lead to major insomnia.
"Logan is a free spirit" ? Girl what 😩 he's a baby, he doesn't get to decide anything.. Lay down some rules for him (if not all of you) to follow, and that's that. 😴
I can't stand when people ask for advice and then fight against everything the advice giver says, lolz. Tamera's advice was fantastic - take it, Tamar! Your life will become a lot easier, and your child will be able to get some much needed sleep.
do you peple even remember being two , you could put him to bed and he would get back up and come back outside my niece does that all the time , the "terrible twos" is where the children test your limits so that's how it's going to sound , you could be stern with him he still will push her buttons the best thing is to sleep with him then we he is asleep , go and resume what you were doing .
+lala lova let's remember now, the child also didn't ask to be here so the child's wants should be taken into consideration. My mom said she applied that 80/20 thing with us. 80% of the time we had no choice lol but 20% we made our own choices.
+Alexx Nurse Of course, but just saying he doesn't want that isn't going to change. You need to make constant routines. She can't control him getting out of bed, but she can control not giving him an ipad, televisoin, games, phones and things like that before bed.
Tamar is funny! "I know you told me but you ain't really TOLD me!" Then when Tamera tells her now, she don't wanna hear it either! If you want Logan to be a "free spirit" bedtime, then don't complain about it! Let him be!
If she keeps doing what Logan wants to do that ain't gonna pretty at age 15.... Who's the parent Logan or Tamar ?? Plus she shows no effort in understanding or even hearing solutions to the problem... Oh Tay Tay...
+yyoo1294 Exactly. You have to discipline kids when they are young or you will have Hell on your hands. Jo Frost (Supernanny) would tell her the same thing, too.
she doesn't have to show they take behind the scenes she actually listens to Tamera they are like friends gosh Y'all take things to seriously , I never had a bedtime I just go to bed simple .
Tamar doesn't have to get so defensive, Tamera is just trying to help you out Tay Tay! You can listen to what she's trying to tell you and whether you want to take her advice or not is your wish.
Logan needs that lavender vapor bath, snack, little play time then bedtime. If he cries, let him cry it will not hurt him. I had to do that for my 3 children.
+bmilprncss22 she was kidding Tamera and Tamar have had this convo before which is why Tamera told Tamar i told u tho...u guys have to stop being so sensitive about everything this girl does or says its not as serious as u make it and the comments are actually more annoying than Tamar could EVER be...
+Leah E Sleep experts say you should stay away from screens 30 minutes to an hour before going to bed because not only is it to much cognitive stimulation before sleep, but they can also delay the delivery of sleep hormones. It's even worse for children. Tamera is completely correct!
Tamar you are the parent he is the child. You talking about he don't like this and that. You spoiling that baby already. You tell him it's time to go to bed and make his ass lay down even if he lay there and play as long as he in the bed. He running your household. My daughter hated going to bed from the time she came out the womb and it took years to get her to stop it. She didn't really start sleeping good until 4 and I guess that's why she so damn tired now at 6 she catching up on sleep from 0-3 lol. I got to the point I just let her ass lay there and screem until she fell asleep she was the most stubborn little heifer at bedtime. I'm so glad I'm done with that phase and I can get some rest.
Tamera, as a pediatric behavioral health provider, you gave her great advice. You can tell though Tamar was not ready or open to listening once you mentioned parenting skill strategies, which is common. Often parents don't want to hear that they are the ones that need to change their behaviors. You did great!
Tamera have excellent advice!!! I'm taking notes for when I have a baby! And as much as I love Tamar, I don't understand why she would ask for advice and not take it. I hate when people do that.
Why be a hypocrite? If you don't want proper parental advice don't bring up your spoiled brat. Tamera gives such great advice. Well I guess we know which kid will act up in public... She needs to take her own advice and have several seats
I absolutely cannot stand people that complain about a problem but cant take any of the necessary actions to fix it. Tamera has given her a great amount of advice but instead of Tamar sitting back and shutting her mouth for 5 minutes she decides to continue to cut Tamera off. Dont worry, when Aden and Ariah turn out to be responsible young adults one day and Logan is an obnoxious spitting image of Tamar she'll have no one else to blame but herself.
+J Brown It has nothing to do with being sheltered. Its about growing up in a structured home and the importance of teaching discipline from a very young age.
+thatkidd jennifer structure...shelter whatever u wanna call it...dnt act like Tamera's kids will be superior because she runs her household differently...Tamar is a great mom and Logan will be a great reflection of that...
So it's a race to see if Tamars child or children, if she decides to have more, or tameras children will turn out to be prosperous and responsible young adults⁉️ I wonder if another person can say the same thing about your current kids or future kids when they don't believe you are listening keenly to motherly advice.
Are just not going to acknowledge the fact that a 2 year old has both an iPad and an iPhone? I mean I understand if a parent has like kid games on their devices for their child to play with sometimes but to have your own phone and iPad at 2 years old? No m'am no ham. no turkey, no salami. no bacon and no bologna.
She is the parents it is her job to make sure he has rules and a routine to follow. It's her job to tell him no more even when he doesn't like it. Being a parent is the hardest job , it isn't easy to raise decent human beings.
+Curlie-ChanTV key word, especially when they don't like it. It reminds them that YOU'RE in charge. How can you let your child run you over like that so young? Then expect them to grow out of it?
+Abigail Jones That's the truth. If she doesn't set up a schedule and structure for him now how does she expect him to do well in school? How does she expect him to listen to his teachers?
smh @ Tamar... She needs to listen and stop trying to be a comedian for once if she really is having issues with her baby. Maybe her ponytail too tight? omg someone help her edges though.. i was so distracted lol.... ~.~
Tamar doesn't want any help, bc if she did she would have listened. Stop making excuses. I know when I don't keep my son on a schedule he is off the chain. They need structure early before it effects them in school, I've had to deal with " free spirited kids"
+Wava's Way and that is why she is having a bit of problems with her son because it just seems like he runs the show. Tamera is right even the "free spirited" kids need some kind of structure. Like Tamar says take several seats then if you don't really want the advice and stop asking
She better stop letting him get at her. If he don't wanna go for all that, oh well. Who's he gonna whoop? No body. TV off an hour before bed, a Lil juice, bath, song or book. Goodnight Logan.
When i saw the title to this i thought yikes! I'm sure Tamar and Tamera are good friends but I don't see Tamar as someone who listens to people's advice. And she proved my point lol. Everything Tamera said was wise and practical, but all she's saying is 'nope, he wont do that' 'he's a free spirit'. The boy is two and has a phone?! Worse still watching TV till late.. but she's genuinely confused as to why he wont sleep? Oh deary me
A two year old using a phone or an iPad makes me cringe 😖please no people that's just my opinion give them books and read read read read and read to them it's very important my little loves books
my little sister actually learned most of the things she knows now from her iPad. it taught her most of her letters, how to talk clearly, her colors, how to count. she's actually ahead of most kids her age because of her iPad.
What 2 year old boy has a cell phone?????? That's a problem within itself if Logan has a cell phone at 2 going on 3 then he's going to get a sense that he can do whatever he wants whenever he wants. So my advice for Tamar and Vince would be to start giving him a structure early on so that way once he hits his teens he'll know what to do and he won't be such of a "free spirit" walking in and out of the house late at night doing whatever he wants.....whenever he wants.
It's somewhat irritating when some people say that "they're not your kids..worry about yourself". I mean, it's true..but when you're instilling bad habits into BABIES, guess who has to deal with their bad, spoilt ways when they get older? US! Tamar and Vince need to correct logan's behavior before it's too late. It may be cute now (to them and any other clueless person), but they won't be laughing when he gets older. Sorry for the rant, but I have some bad cousins whose parents let them do anything and don't discipline them LOL!
+Noodlecour - she kept saying "he doesn't like this that etc". But yet still she's having these problems. She needs to be stricter & that's obviously lacking here. && EXACTLY, when they grow up & go out into the world we have to deal with their spoiled uncontrollable asses.
why do parents act like their kids are in charge of themselves. if you say "logan its time for bed" and he says no you whoop his behind and tell him to go to bed geez he can be a free spirit all he wants but when the Parent says one thing he needs to learn to do as he is told
Why ask for parenting advise and not take it when it's given to you? My kid is a free spirit. Translation: I let him do what he wants without any discipline.
Tamar is very difficult and combative, someone is trying to give you advice and help fix your situation and your ignoring or trying to make excuses for it. JUST SHUT UP AND LISTEN!!!!!
first of all Tamar rather if he likes it or not your the parent and you have to do what you got to do.. he's not the boss but letting him know there's a routine and a time to go to sleep.. he'll get over it:)
I believe that once you teach something that can help later in life like Bedtime ! Once they wake up late when they start going to school oh they gon learn ! It is a struggle waking up at 6:00 in the morning and you gotta have 8 hours of sleep
How are you going to ask for advice and then say "He wont go for it"? IDK why celeb parents treat their kids to all these luxuries when you didn't have an iPod at 2 and1/2 and you grew up fine. IDK why you giving him all this nonsense.
+h Bag i guess everyone wants the next generation to have more than they did. my parents could hardly afford a cd player for me when i was in 4th grade....so hell yeah my future child is gunna have all the technology the world has to offer
books and baths are great ideas, they relax kids and adults as well...since they have a huge backyard, she can make him stay outside and run around doing physical activities, this will tire him out
I agree with everything Tamera said because that works for my little one too but I wouldn't have welcomed Tamera bringing the subject up and telling me what to do. You don't get to tell me how to raise my child...you get to recommend things if I ask but don't just bring it up in front of everyone and say what I do 'wrong' in your eyes. Nah, not happening!
For real Tamar. Every mother's been there. But if you let Logan run the show now, God help you when he gets older. You don't let him tell you what his routine is going to be, you tell him.
Its so cute how she's like "He won't go for that". Such a foreign concept to me, a child having an opinion. Lmao my mom would be like this is what it is, you don't want to? Don't make me call your brother or daddy in here. And I would do it let me tell you. Its always fascinating to me how quick times change.
I'm gonna have to agree with tamera 100% cause a while back when my son wasarpund 3 years old he had such bad sleeping habits ,he would cry to get his way cause he wants to watch t.v and then when it came to having school JK his first year in school, a month before school I had to change his routine cause if I didn't him and I would be both losing sleep lol . But to be honest he pick it up pretty quick and I'm happy that he did !!! Now he sleeps at 8:30pm before he would be sleeping 12-1 am 😳 so I had to put my foot down !!! And it work pretty well , considering my son is sooooooooooo supppppppppper active moving like none stop !!! I mean we all have different parenting skills ....all we can do is the best we can!!
Tameras advice is great...But having a kid that is all about being awake is effing hard...we have routine but it doesnt work anyway. We bathe him, brush teeth, read a bedtime story, lay in bed and whisper/sing a lullaby and then we lay there for 2 hurs getting kicked i the face by tiny feets...Until one of us gets pissed off or falls asleep...and usually I fall asleep faster...:P Lol Tamera is right though, but every child is different...I watch my sisters son sometimes and he is the easiest child alive, 7' o clock he falls asleep after 2 minutes, nothing even needs to be done he just falls asleep.
Eventually this child will grow up not listening to his mom and it's going to get him in trouble. Educational toys, books, sensory toys, they're all good for the kid. There's a book called "Brown Bear Brown Bear What Do You See?" EXCELLENT!!! Sensory and a book all in one. She needs to be keeping him busy. and Tamera is right. NO electronics before bed because it overstimulates the brain tricking it into thinking it's day time.
After her trouble conceiving, Vince's health scare, and Tamar's own health scare, I think she is afraid to discipline Logan. I think she finds it easier to just keep him happy because in many ways she could have lost her little family. Of course kids need structure so she'll have to move past that, but to some extent I get why she struggles with telling him no.
Tamera has great advise, but all kids a re different. My nephew watches a movie while he's going to sleep and he goes sleep perfectly fine. I get where Tamar is coming from.
Tamera has excellent advice - you can tell she is well-read and informed... yet Tamar is soo stubborn! "free spirited?!" he's a toddler, that's why the parents have to give him structure!
I am a first time mother and it is VERY different from working with children, being an auntie, god parent etc. unless you are raising the kid. I worked with kids in my teen years and I am now a Speech Language Pathologist focused in pediatrics. It was so hard for me to discipline my child at first. It would break my heart it would break my heart to say no or take things away. However, when I saw how her behavior was shaping and how she respected her father and looked at me as a play buddy, I had to get on board and QUICK! My child is definitely a free spirit. However, free spirit or not, children NEED, consistency, structure and routine for specific things such as bed time etc! They may not want it, but they need it. Yes at home, they should explore, be comfortable and free, however there has to be a balance. People are so quick to judge, but you don't know her child or her situation. Tamar has a crazy busy schedule, so she probably let's him be free so she can enjoy him when she is with him. However, she has to let that guilt go and create that structure for him. It's about what it best, not what she or he wants. Create balance. I feel the same way because I work and miss out on things going on at my baby girl's pre-school and since her father is no longer with us, I felt guilty so I tried to give her everything. I had to stop that. I am raising an amazing little person to become an awesome woman one day. I can never stop parenting, I just have to love her harder. Material things will not bring her daddy back or give her that time that I miss with heir back... I am doing it ALL alone, my parent's are no longer living and my family are not close in distance, so I have NO "me time'' until my Lyric goes to bed. Well, guess who had to develop a routine (It's still a work in progress)? Not only for her to get to bed on time and have an adequate amount of rest, but also so I can regain my sanity Lol!
Why is she making excuses for her toddler child like she's just accepting that he's gonna do whatever he wants. You better make him get into formation. Get him to a place where he knows what comes next step by step leading him to go to bed. You can't just say "he doesn't do that ", "he ain't gonna wanna do that", or "he's a free spirit". Last time I checked there's two parents and it ain't him. There has to be structure or there will in fact be chaos. Tamar needs to learn how to listen to learn and learn to listen. I'm 23 and I have no kids but when I do ain't no way my toddler child will not have structure and think because they're cute they can get away with stuff. I'm pretty sure Tamera knows what she's talking about
Because it's neither a weave or wig.. It's one of those clip on buns.. Yeah it isn't her hair but there's a difference between wigs weave extensions and clip ins... I just thought it was funny💁🏿💁🏿
Take away that dang phone and give him a book.. He's only TWO for goodness sake... (and Yea I know he cant read, but it can at least be a picture book.. anything but a phone) 🙄
Tamar is so bad at taking advice and is acting so damn rude...why ask for advice from someone if u just gonna sit there with a stank ass face and do whatever u want anyways like damn girl be open to others advice especially if they know more than u and got more experience than you!! u don’t gotta agree with it, you don’t gotta follow it but at least be respectful
I wonder if Tamera would take parenting advice from Monica..since she likes to be the know it all mom.. (not saying I disagree with what she said in this segment)
I hate it when parents want advice and then get defensive and give excuses. Obviously what Tamar is doing is not working. Be willing to get wisdom and advice.
Tamar never wanna listen....but Logan is a ball of energy I hope she can get prepared for it.....and he will calm down when mama Evelyn gets him skrate!!! lol boys will be boys!
