In this video we have a look at the Tamiya TRF211XM 2wd off road competition car. TAMIYA Legends Facebook Group ⬇️⬇️⬇️ groups/16302... Please consider liking and subscribing to support us on our weekly videos...
On the outdoor dirt track, it’s “stand up transmission” handles great against the new models. Indoors it still handles great but for our indoor clay track, “lay down transmission”(option on shapeways web site) it would handle better with lower Center of gravity. I rotate it on the high bite clay track with my xb2-20 and the xb2 feels more “planted” on that track. There are 3D printed spacers and a bracket where the 2 plastic “thumb nuts” go that secure a lipo shorty pack. Also it has a b5 front set up on it (front a arms/knuckles/frt hex adapters) This buggy and my 503 are def the oldest buggies at my track! Feels free to borrow them for any shows Glenn!
Hey Glenn, the biggest difference here as you pointed out is the mid motor versus the traditional rear motor layout. The mid motor will allow better corner speed - the weighting of the car is more balanced, and certainly on higher grip tracks that are more popular today the mid motor would have a definite advantage because of that. On old school really, really rough and loose dirt tracks (of the kind you don't really see anymore) I think a case could be made for the rear motor being faster as it allowed more weight to the rear of the car and therefore more potential power to be layed down, although again corner speed would be compromised. Apart from the alloy chassis used in todays cars, the XM is really the same layout as all modern 2wd cars, the only other difference between them being geometry which makes a big difference and the quality of the components. The only other main difference is that the XM gearbox probably is higher than todays 2WD cars, which generally sit lower to give a lower centre of gravity to take advantage of the higher grip tracks on offer. Great video Glenn, really love seeing these 2wd TRFcars! Cheers!
UPDATE - my blockhead wild one isn't turning up till Easter '22 now so my new xmas present to myself are XR+XM conversion kits for my 201. Thanks for reminding me of this car Glenn! 😎😊
TRF211XM- What a Thing 👍Very Modern looking and Definitely a winner on the race circuit in the correct hands Love the Look of all the TTF Kits and your 201 there Glenn Is also Just a Superb Looking, and no doubt also a great contender on the track and that was awesome of Dennis to Allow you to showcase a beautiful buggy Overall one Great Community of modellers and racers all loving the fun of RC in all ways shapes and forms thanks Glenn For this Video 💯👊
Love the 201, bin looking but because it's mainly about the build for me there stupid money.... seen nib going around £2000 😪😫 really couldn't justify that n if the Mrs found out I'd be living in the shed 😄 with a lovely new car tho 😏 Thank you for taking the time to make another great video Glenn 👌👍
It's cool and modern looking, so just like you, I also prefer the old 201, which I also have one of. I would guess the more modern one would do better lap times than the older one but I'm also just a car park racer, ha ha!
It’s a shame you couldn’t get your hands on a new built one. They look amazing when spanking new with the clean white chassis against the blue alloy . You would love it.
It is modern Glen.. but I only say that because of my age.. Even to the untrained eye you can see it’s for racing.. and that’s it for me.. it’s built to do a job.. Overall it’s a 2wd buggy.. so I love it👍👍👍👍
You know, I rather like the look of that 211XM :) I know it's a fairly modern buggy and not everyone's cup of teat, but I think it looks better than most of the more recent 'cab forward' designs. As for whether it would beat the 201, depends on the track surface, as other people have mentioned. I've only ever raced indoors on carpet with touring cars, and in January next year I'll be racing again for the first time in something like 15 years, seriously looking forward to it! Anyway, great video as always mate!
Totally agree with that. It's a cab forward that's not quite as forward as the other brands cars which all look the same. It's a like a rare moment Tamiya were trying to be modern cool, and not just appeal to us older fuddy-duddies haha.
I have an XR 201 that I converted to mid gearbox. The latter 201's go alright but they were a bit behind the game with certain features, though there were work arounds using other manufacturers parts. The 211 was really a kind of last gasp by Tamiyas TRF group (off road), that and the 503. A shame really. edit: Oh yeah, the original TRF201 is very much a metric Associated B4 (which was an excellent epoch turning buggy) and mostly subject to the geometry of that buggy.
Which car is faster depends on the surface. Racetrack surfaces have changed quite a bit over the last decade from mostly low grip surfaces to the high grip surfaces of today. The rear motor cars will handle better on low bite, dusty tracks. The mid motor cars run better on the higher grip tracks of today. (The stand-up transmission is for the looser tracks by todays standards, lay down being the most common option today) Thanks for the review, was awesome to see another TRF car on the show 👍
@@TAMIYALegendsIn the rear usually not. Some Schumacher 2wd cars have a wheelbase adjustment by reversible arms in the front. The sweeping of the rear arms is a matter of overall geometry of the car and can be changed slightly by some way of altering the rear hingepin mounting on the rear end. The car can generally speaking generate more rear end grip by moving the hub position forward closer to the motor mounting position. (that is a very loose explanation as we could spend hours talking about this topic alone). You might want to have a look on the set up sheets for your race oriented cars. There is TONS of things to be learned by looking at the different set ups for different surfaces.
Yeah it's modern but I like it. The tall/wide driver canopy kinda looks a bit retro which I really appreciate since I'm an old school racer. I'd be interested to know how it performs against other brands of the same vintage (other roughly 5-6 years old cars). At least from its appearance, it seems like it should run right there with the best of them.
Both great buggies Glenn, but I'm not a fan of the "cab forward" look on anything, it's just FUGLY to me. With that said, I wouldn't pass on either, they both have a place (track) where one would be better than the other, as others said. Awesome video my friend!!!!
Modern mid motor cars turn in turn exit and momentum at the Apex is light years ahead of the rear motor cars on today's track layouts and prep level. Take a yesteryear track prep and tire tech the 2 cars would be alot closer in speed and I believe the rear motor cars may even be quicker. As far as old vers new tech the more modern mid motor chassis are so much stronger lighter and durable to handle the modern horse power
i just backored one from amain hobbies today. should ship in a few weeks according to the person i chatted with. Ive been wanting a 201 however its amazing this is still available. im sure it will go discontinued after i post this LOL
TRF211XM is the best 2wd racer chassis among their entire 2wd lineup, however if you compare to the likes of other major race brands like schumacher (LD2, , even LD), it loses well out like-for-like (same race driver, best electronics etc). This makes it hard to justify any purchase of modern TRF models for racing as they priced well, well above other major racing brands
This is onroad but think offroad will be the same story if remove the track from the equation: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fYC5Dvf8oHw.html Modern day buggies would probably suck at the 91 off road worlds track.
