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The Cascavel seems to conform perfectly to the design philosophy of make it simple,make it tough and make it work.

I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of tank chats

David Willey could talk about the history of a toilet roll for 2 hours straight and I'll find every word fascinating

as the son of the founder of ENGESA, it is an honor to know that the company's legacy is part of the museum.

I love Brazil's arms industry. Always mature-tech, polished and cost-effective.

I served on a Cascavel Tank in the Cypriot National Guard, very easy tanks to maintain and reliable. Of course they were getting quite old but could still go just over 100kmh on the highways and the gun still packed a punch (although not very accurate at all). The ones in service with Cyprus also have laser range finders above the 90mm in a metal box that opens. Furthermore the engines we had were not Mercedes, but Detroit Diesels that had an output of 215HP. Armament consisted of the 90mm, a 7.62 co-axial and a .50cal on top. Cyprus is also the only western country to ever operate this family of tanks, including the E-11 Urutu and the EE-3 Jararaca (which was not mentioned in the video).

The investment on Osorio wasn't the main reason why Engesa bankrupted, it was just the final punch. When Iraq started some conflicts it denied the payments of U$200 million. Brazil was also in the middle of the worst economic crisis so it only amplified the terrible conditions. It's a shame that this company didn't survived to show us what it could bring to life.

Currently serving in the Cypriot National Guard as a Cascavel operator!

I will never forget my army service with the Cascavel in Cyprus. Tought little vehicle to fall in love with. Miss those days

Engesa's story is really interesting. If it had not broken after the loss in competition between MBT Osório against MBT M1 Abrams, today it would be at the same level as Embraer.

I absolutely love armored cars, especially ones from Brazil, South Africa and the like. Fantastic video on a vehicle that doesn't get enough attention.

Most people are unaware of Brazil’s arms and aircraft industry. I own two Rossi’s, a shotgun and a Winchester ‘92 clone. They are very high quality.

Glad to see this video, as my father was an Urutu driver when doing service in the brazilian army and also took a driver's course on the Cascavel. I remember when there were parties at the barracks and it was fun time when the kids were allowed to enter the Urutu

Poor Engesa! What an interesting story. That MBT they built certainly looks the part

Looks like Brazil was decades ahead for the Open Source, and Commercial Off the Shelf concepts with the Cascavel and Urutu!

The Cascavel is about to be revived in Brazil, while the army is looking at the Italian Centauro II and the Japanese Type-16 to replace the Cascavel with 220 units, they are also looking to upgrade 200 out of 600 Cascavels, with it being a TOTAL upgrade top to bottom, the only thing meant to stay the same is the suspension and hull and so far Israeli companies and Rheinmetall are the ones choose to begin assembly of prototypes as of march 2021. We have now to wait through 2021 to see these prototypes and which company will be chosen, and this upgrade will keep them going all the way to 2045.

Thank you so much for covering this. Non-major power militaries are a specific interest of mine, especially when they come up with their own kit. I always love the things they do differently, and how they overcome the challenges and limitations they face.

The EE-9 Cascavel has always been a favorite of mine. I saw the old Iraqi ones parked at the Taji "tank park" at Taji/Camp Cook back in 2004. At the time, most of the US Army's convoy asset gun trucks were Humvees and 5-tons with cobbled-together "hillbilly armor" and I looked at those Cascavels parked there wishing we could get them going. Eventually we got MRAPS but I still think dedicated armored cars with either chain guns or some sort of medium cannon would be seriously useful. Thanks for the great tank chat!

Hello from Cyprus . 1984 to 1986 i was a sergeant in a tank unit .. we had about 50 Cascavels in my unit and if i remember corectly we had about 150 Cascavels in different units in the island , i drove them.. shoot with all the weapons . excelent tank.. we also had the Jaracaca which is an Armored Reconnaissance Vehicle also made in Brazil

Three things, the army started developing armored vehicles since 1968, and making contacts with companies like Engesa, but also Bernardini and Novatracao. The first versions of the Cascavel known as the VBR-2 was developed by the PqRMM/2 from the army. Engesa joined in because it had participated in some previous projects like a 4x4 vehicle called the VBB-1. The VBR-2 didnt have the boomerang suspension, but in the same year, the boomerang suspension developed by Engesa would be mounted on the VBR-2 and it received the designation CRR. These wheeled vehicle projects were all developed by the army, of which the rights of production were given for free to private companies. It was not Emgesa that developed the concept of the Cascavel or the early concept of the Urutu called CTRA. Second thing, is how it got the AML-90 turret. In 1973, engesa trialled the Cascavel in Portugal, they were in the War of Ultramar with their colonies at the time and were using the AML-90. They look at the cascavel and are basicaly, its good but it needs a 90mm gun as the 37mm is obsolete. So they bought the AML turrets from france including guns, as the French company refused selling only the guns. They kounted the new turret on a modified hull and trialled it again a couple of months before the revolution in portugal which ended the war of altrumar in 1974. As a result of the revolution, they loaded up the cadcavel and urutu and went to libya to trial it there. From here on they woudl deliver a batch of 200 AML 90 turet cascavels and aroujd halfway switch to the Cockerill gun as they could licemse produce that gun, which was cheaper. Lastly, Engesa had absolutely horrible financial management. Their projects started to slow down heavily and at some point they even used a loan to produce vehicles for the Brazilian Amry, to buy a building from Imbel instead and be late with the order for the Army. In 1981, they entered they screwed up by not paying their staff, and they went out of that by loaning a lot of money, from their this problem got worse as they started to rapidly buy and form nee companies, like 5 in a span of 3 years, and start developing the Osorio. their finiancial police was horrible, and would have doomed the company in 1990, even if they hadnt developed the osorio. Especially since it was about 80% reliable on export, of which most went to Iraq.

Is so nice to see a tank chat about a vehicle from my country! Many thanks! Keep up the great work!

By far one of the most interesting tank chats to date. What a fascinating production history.

What a proud to watch a Brazilian vehicle in your reputable museum!!! Yes, your Portuguese is pretty good, if you permit me a little correction in your pronunciation, the proper pronunciation for Engesa sounds like Enjesa, like in Jeep, but not so open. And yes, what causes Engesa's bankrupt was more a lack of payments from the Brazilian Army than an 'adventure' trying to build an MBT. Again, what a proud to see such a vehicle in your museum!!! THANK YOU!!!

Basically an upgraded M8/M20 made with easy to find components with a bigger gun on it. It did what the Brazilians needed it to do so that is what maters.

I know a lot of people praise David Fletcher for his knowledge, and rightly so, David Willeys knowledge is just as expansive and he has a really clear way of explaining things.

This tank is very beautiful, I'm Brazilian and I'm proud of Cascavel's history! 🇧🇷❤️🐍🚬

You are right about the names! Cascavel (Rattler), Urutu, Jararaca (both other types of pit viper).

When I saw the name “Casacavel” I had to think it was some forgotten, failed British main battle tank program.......Churchill, Centurion, Caernarvon, Cascavel, etc....😄

The Brazilian company also make very good off-road lorries using the same running gear with similar abilities of the Scammell Explorer

Another fascinating 'chat' from David. I must confess I knew nothing at all about Brazilian armoured production prior to this.

Used to go to Bovington as a kid. I am now on the other side of the world, but still feel like I should be doing more to help the museum! Time to pony up for some AFV patreon!!

I really like hearing people speak who are both well versed in thier topic and are genuinely passionate. David is both. Great series, thank you Tank Museum and David.

The Cascavel could be a platform for a mortar carrier or maybe a 20 mm auto cannon, both options cheap and plentiful on the market.

This is my first commentary here, in first place Thank you! to the Tank Museum for all the interesting information on Tank Chats, also I want to mention that other South American country that still uses the Cascavel and Urutu is Colombia (where I live). The Ejército de Colombia has used them for a long time and has upgraded them as well. Only recently we have started to receive Stryker AFVs

The ee 9 was purchased by Cyprus National Guard. I served in the unit in 1986. So the Cascavel at that time was just 3 years old. In total the Cyprus National Guard had 144 of the Cascavel ee 9 model in service in 1986. There were some jararaca's and urutus but not many. The engines were Diesel Detroit V 8 american, and manufactured under license by the engesa company in Brazil. 90 mm main gun, maximum bombardment distance 20 km, but more effective at 4-5 km's. Always carried 44 shells, 2,000 7,62 mm for the co-axial machine gun, and 1,000 rounds of 0,50 inch browning anti aircraft or against infantry and light vehicles. Highly mobile with 100-110 km/h on highway or up to 40 km/h in off road battle field condions of movement. Gave a good punch, mobile, manouverable on flat land and even in hilly mountaineous areas. Was easily camouflaged. It was an effective defensive weapon for Cyprus that could also undertake offensive operations if supported by infantry units. Such operations the National Guard of Cyprus at that time was very well trained, and had to obide by two main rules : SURPRISE AND SPEED of attack.

Wow!!! Our beloved Cascavel featured here!

I am a former soldier and guide at the "Cap. Pitaluga" military museum in the 1st airmobile light cavalry squadron (1st Esqd. C. L. "Lt. Amaro") This unit was the only one to use Brazilian armor on Italian soil during the second World War. Only two armored models were used. They were the M3A1 half-tracks and the M8 Greyhound. At the time, our unit was called the 1st mechanized reconnaissance squadron, under the command of Captain Pitaluga. There is no other armored vehicle that Brazil has had real combat experience with. Therefore, the entire engineering and operating method of the EE-9 Cascavel was based on the M8. In fact, my unit was one of the first to receive the EE-9 and EE-11 and be part of the model's evaluation units. Unfortunately, this story is kept with me and other unit mates and the museum. I saw reputable websites about armored vehicles wrongly saying that we used Sherman tanks in combat in Italy. These photos were taken in Brazilian territory during the war. I hope I have provided some of my knowledge of these details and information forgotten by time.

I've always been a fan of these, particularly the walking-beam rear suspension. It was derived-from/inspired-by the Lockheed Twister programme of the 1960s, and was used on ENGASA's 6x6 military trucks as well. They also produced a prototype tank-destroyer called the Sucuri, which had a longer hull and a 105mm gun. The first prototype had a French AMX-13 (oscillating) turret and it was also trialled with a German one similar to that on the Argentine TAM medium tank. It didn't get any sales that I know of: probably a bit ahead of it's time. Another related project was a 4x4 3-man light scout car called the Jararaca (think wheeled M114) which might have got a few sales if I remember correctly. If I'd been equipping a third-world army in the 1980s I'd have bitten the Brazilians' hand off for some of these.

Thank you for a very interesting video. I always find it fascinating how older vehicle technologies...like the M8 here, which was developed almost 80 years ago...can be given new life through various modifications and upgrades.

There is no better narrator to listen to that’s easy to listen to over everyone else. Mr Willey is in a league of his own.

Another variant of The Cascabel is the ee-3 Jaraca. Basically a Cascabel chasis without the turret. Has a .50 machine gun on top with a shield to protect the gunner.

I'm wanting David back in the garden with him throwing Finns ball. 👍

Proud to see one of my country's best machines! A salute from Brazil!

Oh ho now this is something new. I never imagined our beloved "cascavel" brazillian tank show,s up here in tank museum. Nice one 👍🏻🐍🇧🇷

So this vehicle is perfect suited for the daily morning commute and the parking space lot battlefield at the supermarket! I want mine in flashy Brazilian statecolor metalic green 😎

I watch these for the history and the engineering that went into those vehicles. David Willey and Mr "Moustache" Fletcher himself always make these videos entertaining and informative. thank you so much for this knowledge and I cant wait for lockdown to end so I can finally come down and see the Museum for myself

Fairly elegant looking armored car too. Fascinating story.

Honestly I can imagine cascavel like vehicles being excellent as platforms for mortars, artillery, anti tank weapons , as well as recce and fighting vehicles with some bradley or bmb like turrets Also would have been more cost effective and easier to maintain for prolonged campaigns like the war in Syria, North Africa. Ect

Hello every people! i am a Brazilian guy! to me, see this video talking about an Brazilian tank here is impressive, sincerely unbelievable! i never had think it i would be watch a video like this here in this channel wow

Fascinating. Never heard of this one before. I love your channel! Never stop!

That rear articulation is incredible. Love tank chats, but these chats are unique and very interesting. Edit: just realized I believe I've seen one of these before, Camp Taji boneyard. It was in remarkable condition given what it likely faced.

Nice to see them in The Tank Museum. Thank you for this video showing the amazing work done by Engesa engineers

war thunder please no more wheeled vehicles Gajin sees the video - *Heavy breathing*

I remember this from the palace of justice seige in narcos.

Damn, this is a hidden gem from an out-of-the-way part of the world in terms of arms development. Very neat wheel-bogey suspension on the back, interesting armor design, and of course good-looking as well :P

Missed opportunity for April fools. The Plank Museum, where you do a plank chat about all the different types of planks used by the military.

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 excelente vídeo. Obrigado pelas informações. Abraço.

Excellent talk from my favorite tank museum presenter.

excellent review of a 'non-aligned' armored personnel carrier

I do love it when we get the lesser known vehicles. What an amazing little vehicle.

Thank you

interesting, economical and original design. and a cool name to boot. kudos to brazil

This Tank Chat, delivered by Mr. Willey with his usual erudition and clarity, does an excellent job of explaining the origins and nature of this interesting, yet little-know armored vehicle. It also offers a glimpse into market forces behind armored vehicle production. I never knew about this vehicle until now. Brazil? Making a globally popular armored vehicle? Really? I always learn something new on Tank Chats, which is one reason why I'll always be a subscriber and supporter of the Tank Museum.

Great work!!

My first appreciation of a wheeled AFV. Thank you DW😁

It's so good that the new version has anti-tank missiles, electric stabilized turret, .50 machine gun, NVG, Thermal, laser rangefinder, hunter function, new fire system computer, new datalink radio, new more powerful power package, air conditioning.

Very glad to see the Brazilian tech being shown by a prestigious institution like the bovington museum! Hope I can go back there when this pandemic is over!

keep up the good work David !

Tank chats is the best channel on here for this kind of content. I've been to Samur tank museum, Bovington is next on my list. I'm not sure why I'm obsessed with tanks, but here we are.

Many thanks for this nice video, mr Willey. Brazil is going through the worst crisis in its modern history with this pandemic. People here will need to inspire on the old Engesa's creativity to raise this country again from the ashes. Kind regards.

As usual a very interesting, informative video. Thank you for sharing.

In the late 90's I was doing an IT training, and the trainer said something that stuck with me, that it was cheaper for organizations to adapt themselves to a standard software package like MS Office then it was to create a custom product that was purpose built for them. Cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain thanks to standard updates, and that you would get more updates as well. I reckon Engesa proves that the same applies to military hardware. Rather then design and order your own custom tank to your own wants and needs its cheaper to buy a mass produced design and change your organization and doctrine to it instead.

Fantastic presentation

Here in Brazil, we are still using this Brazilian tank.

Muito bom o vídeo. Parabéns.

I was at a brazilian army expo a few months back and talked to a guy that was a Cascavel gunner, he told me about its history and apparently the distinction between the original Mk.I cascavel was made by calling it the "Skinny" cascavel, as opposed to the "Fat" cascavel that packed the Panhard 90 mil. cannon.

So very excellent thank you as always

Ecuadors army also adquired a few EE~9 Cascavel vehicles as well as EE~11 Urutu and the EE~3 Jaraca from Engesa in the late 1970s.

Proud 🇧🇷

Third world wasnt originally an economic description, it was a cold war description of third countries: NATO, Soviet Bloc and the third world. It was later that it was noted that many of these third world countries were economically underdeveloped compared to the other two blocs.

New video 8 minutes ago. I click it - already 118 likes! You guys like tanks as much as I do, there's still 8+ minutes of the video left!

very informative and entertaining

Excellent.

The Brazilian Expeditionary Force is well worth a look ...... it fought in many battles in Italy and had a very strange shoulder patch. For their service and courage Thank you.

Thank you very much David for dedicating a video to ENGESA and its URUTU and CASCAVEL armored vehicles. I am surprised to see that TANK MUSEUM has a CASCAVEL in its collection. Despite being brazilian, I was able to get new informations about these armored vehicles that I didn't know. It would be interesting to dedicate an episode to OSORIO in the future, but I understand that the episodes always refer to the museum's armored vehicles. Still, I appreciate the excellent presentation. Best regards!

Great memories. There was a beautiful collection of magazines called "Guerra Moderna" that feature all this vehicles.

15:03 duas Belinas 1 laranjinha no estacionamento... saudades

Epic video

Very cool

nice video! :D Brazilian here, nice museum :D.

Now I must ask for an episode on the Chaimite/ Cadillac-Gage Commando.

Planning my visit ❣️

Great great vid!

More niche content like this please! Tigers and Shermans are ok, but this was so fresh and interesting. Thanks a lot 👍

"Thank you for watching The Tank Museums youtube channel" no David, Thank you.

I had (I thought) no interest in this at all. Love the video, can’t wait for the next one 🙂

great channel!!!

that OM-352 A is an amaaaazing engine ! I have a Chevrolet D-60 with one and runs perfect

For Recon work, it appears almost perfect!

Engesa is the acronym for Engenheiros Especializados S.A. (Specialized Engineers Corp.)