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TATA PUNCH OFFICIAL REVIEW: PROS & CONS FROM CAR BUYER VIEW 

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@mycarhelpline
@mycarhelpline 3 года назад
Do you think - Punch if priced in range of Swift, Nios can kill hatchback segment. Share your Views !!
@sabarinathps2222
@sabarinathps2222 3 года назад
Yes
@devenderyadav7326
@devenderyadav7326 3 года назад
Nah, need to work on engine performance.
@kumarsonu6619
@kumarsonu6619 3 года назад
Cng needed n 4 cylinder refined engine
@MrGurdeepcena
@MrGurdeepcena 3 года назад
People are preferring cng car the reason why maruti is still selling bulk of cars. This car will definitely make sense but not be a segment killer.
@saranshsharma895
@saranshsharma895 3 года назад
Absolutely
@ambrose369
@ambrose369 3 года назад
An always good thing about you is an honest review of the vehicles. You make it sure both pros & cons are discussed leaving the choice to the buyer as per a buyers driving aspirations...keep it up..I make sure to listen to you as a final verdict on any car.
@chandu7898
@chandu7898 3 года назад
Best Advisor, Honest Review without any Non sense; Straight to the Point. And Thank your very much, I have saved Huge amount in Insurance after watching your videos. I said to showroom persons, i will get it done from My own from Insurance Company. I bought Insurance for my Nexon car from Oriental Insurance, Saved so much of Money in Insurance premium. Moreover it's Govt Insurance Company. Your Videos are very Helpful.
@dieselpreetsingh9544
@dieselpreetsingh9544 3 года назад
I own Nexon 2019 Petrol. This car is more SUV-ish than Nexon. In Nexon, you can not see the left side of the Bonet. Ingress and egress are easier in this car and a bit tricky in my Nexon due to its coupe-like roof. Also, in Nexon, if you raise the seat height your hair almost starts touching the roof and if you lower your seat height you feel that you are sitting in a lifted sedan rather than an SUV. The rear windows on the Nexon are small and make it a bit claustrophobic but the rear windows in the Punch look bigger and make the cabin feel more spacious.
@utk2138
@utk2138 3 года назад
That left side bonet issue....totally agree, because of that end up scratching the lower left side front bumper few times in traffic of my new vehicle. It feels like you have enough space in left side but you end up with scratches. Though I never faced other two issues that you mentioned, fyi I'm 5'11".
@dieselpreetsingh9544
@dieselpreetsingh9544 3 года назад
@@utk2138 I'm 5.8 approx. So I raise seat height to atleast feel like I'm driving an SUV and to get a better view of the left side of the Bonet.
@moidrox
@moidrox 3 года назад
But punch is more hatchback in performance 1.2 ltr naturally aspirated 86 bhp and 113 nm. Whereas 2021 nexon is 1.2 ltr turbo petrol 118 bhp and 170 nm at 1750-4000 rpm. Also I know the coupe design is not reminiscent of traditional SUVs but here is a list of coupe design SUVs just for reference. Porsche Panamera. 1 matching variants. ... Mercedes-Benz S-Class. 2 matching variants. ... Mercedes-Benz G63 AMG. 1 matching variants. ... Mercedes-Benz G-Class. 1 matching variants. ... Land Rover Range Rover. 1 matching variants. ... Bentley Bentayga. 1 matching variants. ... Ferrari GTC4 Lusso. 2 matching variants. ... Ferrari F12berlinetta.
@dieselpreetsingh9544
@dieselpreetsingh9544 3 года назад
@@moidrox The hatchback performance can be solved with a turbo. And here is a list of non-coupe like SUV: Cadillac Escalade Jeep Cherokee Jeep Grand Wagoneer Merc GLS Merc G Wagon BMW X1, X3, X5, X7 Toyota Land Cruiser Toyota FJ Cruiser Toyota 4Runner Lexus LX 570 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR Nissan Patrol or Armada Jeep Wrangler Ford Expedition Chevrolet Suburban GMC Yukon
@moidrox
@moidrox 3 года назад
@@dieselpreetsingh9544 like I said "traditional SUV" is that design don't need to over specify ! Chill bro 👊 Plus there more to suv than just the outer design. Suspension being one of those things that just is pretty good in the Nexon.
@siddubannimath5040
@siddubannimath5040 3 года назад
Tata punch EV under 10 lakhs will be game changing with 350kms range
@punkidaft
@punkidaft 3 года назад
Highly impossible considering the Battery costs which is still around 150$/Whr nd many other things need to be considered in an EV. Punch EV will be placed around 12-14 lacs (based on variant) !
@Pratikinho80
@Pratikinho80 3 года назад
Tigor EV costs about 12.5 to 13.5 while the tigor xza+ petrol costs around 9 so a difference of 4.5 L. Considering same for Punch it will cost around 15L. Not that impression now is it?
@paddu9034
@paddu9034 3 года назад
no ev we will get under 13-14 lakhs in near future..
@kushalsharma9702
@kushalsharma9702 3 года назад
Not possible as of now
@Olive_Chap
@Olive_Chap 3 года назад
Rightly said.. people who are posting weird battery visavis cost... Look at chinese auto market without subsidy they have car with same km range at 4 lakh without government subsidies... Indian automaker could certainly make them once green signal is given by government for ev not hybrid vehicle..
@sazidalom5704
@sazidalom5704 3 года назад
Nice review as always. Apart from engine refinement, everything else looks top notch. If priced aggressively ( what tata will definitely do), this car gonna be a bumper hit.
@biku6676
@biku6676 3 года назад
Just fulfilled my wish for an honest review of TaTa Punch. . 👍🏻👍🏻 thank you brother 😊
@devsthal6067
@devsthal6067 3 года назад
apke channel ki sbse achi baat hai..Bina time waste kiya sidha Topic pe baat shuru krte hi...Bilkul Bdia...baki channel Watch Hours bdaane k lie 2 -3 mint ka Intro. Hi dete hain..Honest RU-vidr. ❤️❤️❤️
@kbvrao
@kbvrao 2 года назад
Nice Video Sir. Impressed with your detailed explanation about the vehicle. Even I Booked TaTa Punch Accomplished with Dazzel Pack AMT with Orange Colour. My Waiting Period is going on. Hoping to see my TaTa Punch v soon.
@TheRankmr
@TheRankmr 3 года назад
Thanks for the review, even in my 11 years old fiat punto not having this much of engine vibrations.
@mubeenfarooqi8610
@mubeenfarooqi8610 3 года назад
Fiat Punto is an awesome car!
@TheRankmr
@TheRankmr 3 года назад
@@mubeenfarooqi8610 absolutely right bro.
@Abhishekgupta-mo1om
@Abhishekgupta-mo1om 3 года назад
I have booked Tata Punch today leaving Suzuki & Hyundai. Vande Mataram.
@Abhishekgupta-mo1om
@Abhishekgupta-mo1om 3 года назад
@@ajendrasingh1220 Thanks Sir.
@AlokPandey-y
@AlokPandey-y 3 года назад
@@ajendrasingh1220 😂
@jethalalgada5
@jethalalgada5 3 года назад
@@ajendrasingh1220 😂
@meckygaming3390
@meckygaming3390 2 года назад
Bewakoof
@VinodSharma-co8vr
@VinodSharma-co8vr 2 года назад
Booked tata punch kaziranga edition after watching your analysis.
@newstvabp
@newstvabp 2 года назад
sir tata nexon xms or tata punch creative which i have to buy please tell me this will be my 1st car . so from your view which will be best for buy
@ashwinsuryawanshi
@ashwinsuryawanshi 3 года назад
Please start reviewing cars regularly, it will take your subscribers over 1 million mark within an year.
@nynthapa9353
@nynthapa9353 Год назад
I choose Tata top model instead of W6 XUV 300 Is this a good decision? Please advise.
@Jubin369
@Jubin369 3 года назад
You are one of the best automobile reviewers in India. Keep going sir!
@mangbaite8973
@mangbaite8973 3 года назад
Bro, before looking for any car, always wait for your review. Pros and cons, was the best part.
@captainamerica437
@captainamerica437 3 года назад
Tata punch pure :- 5.49 lakh Adventure :- 6.39 lakh Accomplished :-7.29 lakh Creative :-8.49 lakh ₹60000 additional for AMT version
@Dr_Deepak-Kamble
@Dr_Deepak-Kamble 3 года назад
"PUNCH" will Definitely Replace MARUTI's Lott of डीब्बा Cars It's Loaded with More Safety, Looks Like Harrier, Indian Roads Adaptability Great Work TATA 🎉🎊💖 It'll make other Companies to Make Such CARS Start of New Micro SUV 🎉
@timone1423
@timone1423 3 года назад
No doubt tata and mahindra cars are absolutely brilliant.. they hv realised its time to give safer cars to Indians. I own nios amt. I was disappointed when it scored only 2 stars. The interiors and exteriors of nios was of high quality. I was surprised it scored so low. Anyway, where tata needs to improve is their engine and service department. In the last 300 kms drive, nios gave me 25.6kmpl n it has 4 cylinders..i was blown over..nios engine is butter smooth, almost no vibrations. If only tata improves engines and service, their cars will outperform everything in market.
@sasikiran4487
@sasikiran4487 3 года назад
Looks like Tata has targeted Maruti cars portfolio like Swift, WagonR, Ignis. And Mahindra targeted Hyundai's SUV portfolio like Creta, Alcazar with XUV700.
@vivekagarwal687
@vivekagarwal687 3 года назад
U always hv great content which doesn't require additional voice modulation at all. ❤️
@kiranmr7804
@kiranmr7804 3 года назад
Best review thank you so much ❤️💛
@sandeeph.c7918
@sandeeph.c7918 3 года назад
Was waiting for your review.. Will watch and decide
@rajeshpardikar
@rajeshpardikar 3 года назад
During the session .. u r smiley face shows it perfect car for everyone ... Best review .. thanks ..sir ji...
@kiranbhagat6399
@kiranbhagat6399 3 года назад
Very informative video sir. This car will definitely change the mindset of Indian car buyers. Car also gives tough compilation to all present hatchback in Indian market.
@rickyrock311
@rickyrock311 3 года назад
First time am seeing you outside car and that too with new launch. Great
@MrMisraratnesh
@MrMisraratnesh 3 года назад
AMT is very good and fun to drive but the real issue is that if u face any problem in AMT gearbox, there is literally no solution at most of the service centres.
@ManjitSingh-nn7so
@ManjitSingh-nn7so 3 года назад
Booked Tata Punch today after watching your video Sir
@chandandurlov
@chandandurlov 3 года назад
Only 1 very important feature missed, that is : hill hold assist ......wish tata will consider in future updates
@thepeculiarindian
@thepeculiarindian 3 года назад
Arey sirji.. ❤️ .you are awesome...jo b ho ..you always stick to the truth and real life answers...
@sainathnair8654
@sainathnair8654 3 года назад
Tata means pride & proud of Hindustan. Buy Indian products Be Indian🇮🇳
@arjunprasath7021
@arjunprasath7021 3 года назад
Nice and detailed review ... this what I was searching for ... 👍👌
@parilmota
@parilmota 3 года назад
This car is pretty good for city driving and as we saw from the launch video it is a great off read performer as well. But the most concerning factor is the service provided by Tata motors. If you take the car for off roading and for some reason the car stops working then you're on your own. You cannot rely on Tata motors to help you out in that situation. As seen from some other car manufacturers they help you out even when you're stuck in some unserviceable regions but the same cannot be expected from Tata motors.
@NagaSudheerMadduru
@NagaSudheerMadduru 3 года назад
This is only reason that is dragging me in going ahead with Tata Punch.
@PremKumar-dt5tq
@PremKumar-dt5tq 3 года назад
Tata serves everywhere even for nothing. Thus problem will be solved soon...I am sure. Tata can do anything..
@parilmota
@parilmota 3 года назад
@@PremKumar-dt5tq Yeah, Tata is a great brand in every field. Even in building great cars. The only place it lacks is it's after sales service. But I'm sure if Tata decides to take it seriously they can improve their after sales service in no time.
@abhavabhav7535
@abhavabhav7535 3 года назад
I am following ur website, to check car's details, I love your recommendations, good to see your reviews, keep it up.
@nabendudas1270
@nabendudas1270 3 года назад
2nd hand ford freestyle Titanium Plus manufacturer 2019 jan, good body condition, 17000km run, price 3.5lakh, will be worth for buying.
@shreeramhegade9008
@shreeramhegade9008 3 года назад
At What place?
@atuljadhav6807
@atuljadhav6807 3 года назад
Yes if car is good...
@nabendudas1270
@nabendudas1270 3 года назад
@@shreeramhegade9008 at guwahati assam
@shreeramhegade9008
@shreeramhegade9008 3 года назад
@@nabendudas1270 ham Karnataka ae..nahi hogi
@nabendudas1270
@nabendudas1270 3 года назад
@@shreeramhegade9008 but ford is left india
@1404ankit
@1404ankit 2 года назад
Sir, with all due regards, you'll be a very great crime reporter as well !!!
@jatinmangal8840
@jatinmangal8840 3 года назад
Finally .. ur energy is awesome.. keep it up
@tomcruise5227
@tomcruise5227 3 года назад
Superb review , I love the way you talk no bakvas it's natural and best review and honestv
@narendradhuroo4580
@narendradhuroo4580 3 года назад
मान गए साहब Super very nice Outstanding video 🙏
@BROMINN_GUY
@BROMINN_GUY 2 года назад
personally i like engine sound in cabin it gives a sporty feeling that nowadays ppl pay extra for it
@iamajustababa2000s
@iamajustababa2000s 2 года назад
Ok
@segaluputtistha
@segaluputtistha 3 года назад
Shark cam absent, No CVT Model, no smooth Engine. Is available rooftop window?
@anantacharantudu8454
@anantacharantudu8454 3 года назад
Honestly speaking sir mein sb ka review dkta hun bt aapke statement ko hi follow krta hun❤
@hiteshsalian8259
@hiteshsalian8259 3 года назад
Honest and unbiased, unlike lot of paid reviews these days.
@dheer2250
@dheer2250 3 года назад
Ultimate sense of speaking you have sir.
@vishalmirjankar9236
@vishalmirjankar9236 3 года назад
Nice video 1st time seeing u outside any car
@adityathakre1006
@adityathakre1006 3 года назад
Hope this car will change mindset of Indian customers towards safety
@mohankalaskar275
@mohankalaskar275 3 года назад
सर बहुत प्यारा बढिया लग रहा है , पहिली बार आपने कार से बाहर निकल कर review किया है .. Good job ..
@AnoopKumar-gv2xj
@AnoopKumar-gv2xj 3 года назад
Does TATA punch base variant(Pure) has central locking, I mean Does it have all four doors lock from inside option .. no lever inside at driver door through which by pushing down, we can lock all the 4 doors , I don't see that option here.
@adityathakre1006
@adityathakre1006 3 года назад
Aapke review se yahi samajh aaya this car needs solid puncy engine like polo
@ch.satvika9335
@ch.satvika9335 2 года назад
Nice detailed review,Punch no doubt good built quality but car with noise and wibrations are in high side, that's why I have purchased Sonet htk plus
@iamajustababa2000s
@iamajustababa2000s 2 года назад
that car price and this car price is very different
@NagaSudheerMadduru
@NagaSudheerMadduru 2 года назад
Thanks for the videos sir. I am basically looking for automatic car to buy. So please let me know which is best among Tata Punch AMT vs New Baleno AMT vs Hyundai Venue IMT?
@manojkotnala
@manojkotnala 2 года назад
i have my Toyota Etios cross and selling it because it it is a diesel car and due to limitation of running after 10 years in delhi and planning for tata punch but little worried coming from Toyota to tata it is little pain.. don't know whether i should go with it or not Toyota etios cross never disappointed even a single time.
@ankitaaggarwal2330
@ankitaaggarwal2330 2 года назад
Hi can you suggest how safe is the door locking mechanism for kids who fiddle with door lever??
@Mathibplayschess
@Mathibplayschess 3 года назад
Punch CNG launch date in IND? Loved Punch. Wish CNG launch soon.
@sureshmachmanda8296
@sureshmachmanda8296 3 года назад
Aap ka kaise he aap bada jabardast hai aur uske baad review bilkul fantastic hota hain.
@atyushkmrsingh1645
@atyushkmrsingh1645 3 года назад
i was waiting for your authentic review...thanks
@chaitspraks1382
@chaitspraks1382 3 года назад
Respect for the honest review 👏
@himanshusonpal7827
@himanshusonpal7827 3 года назад
Smile on your face reflects that u recommended to go for PUNCH ..👊🏻👊🏻
@theunknowngamer2784
@theunknowngamer2784 3 года назад
Top notch review. I am only worried about the after sales service. Pls advise sirji, should i go with top model punch or base model brezza
@amarjitswain
@amarjitswain 3 года назад
Waiting for Punch EV...LOVE U Brother...for your honest review.
@hirengajjar924
@hirengajjar924 3 года назад
If I have budget of Rs. 6.5 lacs on road. So which car is suitable for me ? Nissan magnite, Kigar or TATA Punch? I normally use car 2000km to 2500km per month. Right now I have i10 magna. Please suggest from your end and experience.
@visangh
@visangh 3 года назад
Aap ki awaz mein bhi punch aagya hai. Bahut achey 👏
@sanjaysoundankar4428
@sanjaysoundankar4428 3 года назад
Nice rivew sir quite in brief this will help to take dicesion easily🙏🙏
@vanishnayyar3159
@vanishnayyar3159 3 года назад
can buy punch, Milage, resale.... service cost.... Maintenance..... Suggest... can buy second base model... ??
@manofreelsnrhythms
@manofreelsnrhythms 3 года назад
I always love ur frank opinions & reviews...Good Luck bro....
@sarajmanes4505
@sarajmanes4505 3 года назад
Sat Shri Akal Ji Ram Ram Ji Good Work Keep It Up Great Video God Bless You Thanks Ji
@balasahebgadekar4691
@balasahebgadekar4691 2 года назад
Very good👍💯 convince featured explain 👍✌🧐
@glitter-pixiet2335
@glitter-pixiet2335 3 года назад
If u want a colour suggestion go for Bronze or mist colour looks better with black dual tone and also if ur not into those colours then orange and red for funky people looks crisp than other colours.
@222mamas
@222mamas 3 года назад
Nice review,.. Which one is better manual or AMT Because Traction Pro in AMT only
@dhritu
@dhritu 3 года назад
Most honest channel 👍👍👍👍
@anchaldhiman7733
@anchaldhiman7733 3 года назад
Three people I always rely for cars Marcarhelpline, Ravi and Rohit and V3 cars.
@meesammir35
@meesammir35 3 года назад
Absolutely Same here!
@anchaldhiman7733
@anchaldhiman7733 3 года назад
@Mahadev Navadkar cool
@jethalalgada5
@jethalalgada5 3 года назад
Exactly same!!
@meesammir35
@meesammir35 3 года назад
@@jethalalgada5 arey Jetha Ji 🙏
@satyavratchaudhary7592
@satyavratchaudhary7592 3 года назад
@Mahadev Navadkar i wanted write same ))
@theincredible6016
@theincredible6016 3 года назад
Isane to apano ko hi jalaya hai, bought tata tiago in march and now in love with this car.
@pareshmahadik7694
@pareshmahadik7694 2 года назад
Nice detail explanations,and just one question how is the pickup experience with loaded with 4 people and over taking vehicle in narrow road?
@sundertalreja7208
@sundertalreja7208 3 года назад
Waited 2 years for the launch but the looks are trimmed down then what was shown in auto expo. Good I purchases Triber in March with 2 lakh discount.
@RajKumar-nl1bq
@RajKumar-nl1bq 3 года назад
Apney 2 lakh ka discount kese liya sir mein bhi ek new car plan kr raha hu pr kr raha hu pr koi bhi discount offer nahi kr rahe pls share me ur buying experience
@sundertalreja7208
@sundertalreja7208 3 года назад
@@RajKumar-nl1bq bhai, March 2021 main November 2020 ka gadi liya, dealer gave good discount.
@RajKumar-nl1bq
@RajKumar-nl1bq 3 года назад
Sunder ji mein abhi baleno plan kr raha hu is diwali pr kya mein wait karna chahiye January 2022 ka for discount jaisa apko mila
@akashlaboratory7699
@akashlaboratory7699 3 года назад
Renault ki service bahut kharab hain,parts bahut costly hain,isliye discount jyasda hain
@Pradeepkumar-nk1eh
@Pradeepkumar-nk1eh 3 года назад
Hahah triber its shitty tin can
@vk23stars
@vk23stars 3 года назад
Nexon or Punch I am really confused, Please help !
@sanchitrastogi55
@sanchitrastogi55 3 года назад
6:38 It was doing 100 kmph @ 3200rpm in 5th gear, Nexon does it @ 2200 in 6th gear. So to get mileage in this you need to drive at 80 kmph ?
@NishantSharma-cv9ww
@NishantSharma-cv9ww 3 года назад
there is huge difference in tunning of nexon & punch if ur enthusiast then altroz turbo & nexon turbo petrol will gud pick if u need mini suv affordable price then punch is there
@danjitrohman2799
@danjitrohman2799 3 года назад
thats the benefit of having 6TH gear
@WestMarshall589
@WestMarshall589 3 года назад
@@NishantSharma-cv9ww it's not suv dumbo
@vijayguns
@vijayguns 3 года назад
Does cruise control and automatic transmission features make much difference for highway drive for 600+ kms. I am 30 yrs old, I may have to take long trips to go home. Looking for car for this purpose.
@banjaramezbaan9889
@banjaramezbaan9889 3 года назад
Your smile says it all❤️❤️
@guruknmurthy2525
@guruknmurthy2525 3 года назад
Excellent & indetailed review..your way of explanation is superb Sir 👌👌
@debasishsahoo5495
@debasishsahoo5495 3 года назад
Very informative sir, genuine review, awesome
@ravipampana5382
@ravipampana5382 3 года назад
Lovely honest explanation Thankq bro
@kund_n1
@kund_n1 3 года назад
Best review ever Waiting for this since long.
@amitnilanjan
@amitnilanjan 3 года назад
my first car will be tata punch ev. M willing to wait. 15 L will be by max budget
@shrishar78
@shrishar78 3 года назад
Very nice review. But I think there should be one LED cabin light instead of halogen bulb which I hope at least showrooms will offer. I hardly see showrooms offer such things. But if TATA motors can ask them to allow such small mods in the car, will be great instead of going out and get it modified.
@adityathakre1006
@adityathakre1006 3 года назад
Sir ye patta wala badhiya kiya aapane❤️
@shameenkumar3534
@shameenkumar3534 3 года назад
I love SUV and my budget is less hence I decided to wait for Tata HBX since 2020 auto expo... I now feel its worth waiting... I believe your words sir and I sense you too seem to be excited about this product from Tata... I will wait for few more months to listen to the owners' experience...and then will take final call. Thank you for your efforts sir 🙏
@twinkling_inthe_dawn6672
@twinkling_inthe_dawn6672 3 года назад
Best reviewer... Most Practical
@ameykulkarni8946
@ameykulkarni8946 3 года назад
Is it a good decision to buy Tiago XZ in this December? I don't like big size of Punch. Waiting for December because of discounts.
@ashumith1
@ashumith1 3 года назад
purchase karna chaiye...wht u suggest
@godspeed8521
@godspeed8521 3 года назад
Thx sir for review ....should I go for adventure amt variant ???
@Abhishekdasgupta50
@Abhishekdasgupta50 2 года назад
wagon r amt or punch - value for money ? which is best choice for city
@ravishankarthakur2615
@ravishankarthakur2615 3 года назад
Very nice way to illustrate i like your presentations 👌👍🌹🙏🌹
@SwapnilNawale18
@SwapnilNawale18 Год назад
Is there any mileage issue there in Punch including other tata cars Togor/Tiago? Because people are complaining they are getting 8kmpl mileage
@AbdulRauf-bv9gk
@AbdulRauf-bv9gk 3 года назад
Very useful information sir, thank you, keep it up.
@Mayur_Rathod
@Mayur_Rathod 2 года назад
Buying which option is better? Adventure Manual or Adventure AMT? I am confused and not sure if the AMT is reliable or it has issues.
@jellalfernandes1309
@jellalfernandes1309 2 года назад
Punch amt is low powered but reliable.
@PriyaPriya-te2ce
@PriyaPriya-te2ce 3 года назад
In which Tata motors plant it is going to manufactured ? Sanand plant or Pune plant ?
@Ravi62261
@Ravi62261 3 года назад
Nice, to-the-point and honest opinion and review! Keep it up Gagan!
@no1abhi
@no1abhi 3 года назад
I have realised the recline angel of back seat in Tata cars is not comfortable compared to other manufacturer. What is your thought about it.
@ch7ramesh
@ch7ramesh 3 года назад
1.2 engine of tiago and altroz ..With different Out look but it's looking like mini Harrier ... i missed recently i bought tiago driven 6500 km it's superb
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