Tatar Biocomposite by Grozer Bows - Patreon Review

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Holy Moly!!!
This bow, I tell you: THIS BOW!
Checks all the boxes one could possible have for a bow.
The look, incredible, the draw buttery smooth, the shooting exceptional, the feel just great and the price more than worth it
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@BibtheChib 3 года назад

I think Grozer is the only bowmaker whose bows I want to collect all of.

@GameOver-fn2og 2 года назад

After you collect all biocomposite bows, you will unlock his EXTRA 3 biocomposite for free :D :D

@arrowzen7433 6 месяцев назад

I feel exactly the same.

@HistoricalWeapons 3 года назад

im glad you can post on facebook again!

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

I could post, just not share of different groups - was a fb bug I guess

@mikeorick6898 3 года назад

Great bows! I left mine strung for 3 months and it lost about 10% of the draw weight (from 44 to 40@28) but got it all back after just being left unstrung for 3 days. It was interesting watching it regain its unstrung crescent shape. Should have taken some time-lapse photos. I've left it strung for a month several times and it only lost a couple pounds, got it back over night. It's never needed balancing, has never twisted. It's smooth, fast, and quiet. Why did I do that? I just had to know... now you don't have to wonder about it.

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

hehe I understand, thanks for your insight

@ictw7521 6 месяцев назад

Have this bow for one year now and shot several thousands of arrows with it. An awesome performer. And it it even gets better over time! I can fully recommend this bow!

@vllad74 2 месяца назад

I am just thinking of buying one of the Tatar biocomposite bows and hearing this makes want to buy it even more. Thank you!

@MrAndregonsalves1 3 года назад

The quality of Grózer bows is outstanding.

@vitaliyselnitsyn6036 Год назад

Especially the early ones which were made a decade ago or even earlier. Those used genuine comressed cow horn or solid waterbuffalo horn and premium wood core. Sinews and tendon plates are still fine, but I'm afraid the so-called biocomposite recurves do not use a real horn material but rather some kind of plastic substituent. I saw numerous complaints from my British mates about recently built biocomposite bows of Grozer. Tell me if I am wrong

@matgri57 3 года назад

Simply the best archery channel on youtube. A kind, passionate and charismatic man with soothing voice, clear english, amazing bows, quality reviews... And it must be painful to give away this beauty haha

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

This one YES!! thank you for your kind words

@tammynfletcher 3 года назад

Another beautiful bow by Grozer! And in my opinion the best design for speed and shooting heavy arrows! Thank you Patreons for picking this bow! And you Armin for reviewing it! Now to talk the administrator of finances (aka. The wife) into why I need 15 asiatic bows in my collection!!!! Lol

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

just 15??!! come one, tell her that this is the min amount of asiatic bows an good guy should have and you are a very good guy :)

@tammynfletcher 3 года назад

@@ArminHirmer thank you my friend I'm showing this comment to her as we speak!! I think it helped! Lol

@jenjen7728 3 года назад

😂administrator of finances😂

@dasMoto 3 года назад

Ask her about the amount and price of her shoes...

@LifeisGood-ye8rl 3 года назад

You should Definitely make at least 1 video about this now when you get it. I can never get enough opinions about the same bow. Especially grozer bow

@ictw7521 Год назад

My biocomposite Tatar from Grózer arrived yesterday. What a bow! Bloody marvellous! The draw is smooth as butter, while the bow is snappy as hell nonetheless. Draw weight 42# @ 28" (measured by Grózer) Draw weight 50,9# @ ~32" (measured by me) Fell in love with the BC-Tatar, already! The ordering process went pretty straight! Sent an email to Grózer, and got a reply from him within two day´s.

@worldtraveler8372 5 месяцев назад

Can you share the recommended Brace height range? I obtained one from another person.

@VersesX33 3 года назад

Your channel is bad for my bank balance... It's like seafoam green colour, I like it!

@UTxTheArchangel 3 года назад

Whenever Grozer makes a bow, an Angel gets their wings. Nothing but greatness from Grozer. Awesome review Armin.

@thehermit2341 3 года назад

I’ve been wanting one of there’s tartar bows for a couple years now... wish I had spare money for one of these masterpieces 👌🏻

@strydyrhellzrydyr1345 2 года назад

I am completely in love with this... 55 pound.. I would be in heaven.. but I don't even care... The look... The draw... The style... The everything... I want it soooo bad

@Scario45 3 года назад

When it comes to Biocomposite bows Grozer are on an other level

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

yes always again an extraordinary experience

@agamagreen 3 года назад

What a beauty! Much fun to the patreon, who will win this bow! 3 days ago I have shot my Grózer Tatar BC bow for the first time and even not being able to do my full draw, the bow performed excellently ☺️ I was very much looking forward to this review! Thank you so much, Armin! 😁

@worldtraveler8372 5 месяцев назад

Can you share your brace height range?

@agamagreen 5 месяцев назад

@@worldtraveler8372My BC Tatar has a brace height of 8”.

@chrisological5176 3 года назад

great channel, great review, great bow! Colours still not mine, but thats high level complaining. Thank's for the review (y)

@arrowzen7433 6 месяцев назад

Brilliant design.

@strydyrhellzrydyr1345 2 года назад

Ohhhh.. wow.... Now that... That is soooo beautiful... What an outstanding looking bow... Patreon... Whoever got it... I'm so jealous... I want it so bad

@Marcfasel 3 года назад

Grozer is the best talking about price versus quality…👏👏👏

@guilhermevieira4353 3 года назад

I have this bow at 38lbs. I pull 42 lbs easy as if it was half the weight. Amazing bow, it tickles everybody's curiosity when they see me shooting it

@pkile2011 3 года назад

Such a great bow! I even like the colors. Thank you for reviewing this Csaba bow. I love my Csaba Grozer bow.

@dileb112 3 года назад

Oh, your joy when shooting and presenting this bow is so obvious! 😀 I'd love to see and try this thing of beauty in 100 lb at 28" - even if it would be a nightmare for me to put the string on and also the shooting would be challenging.

@Daylon91 3 года назад

But so worth your time

@Daylon91 3 года назад

Hot damn! What a bow, that unstrung shape is beautiful as well as the strung shape. Great review and fantastic shooting sir!

@DTankTopM 3 года назад

Thanks Armin for the great quality and content of your channel. It’s very informative. Your channel deserves more views and I suggest you remind the viewers to thumbs up your videos alongside subscribing.

@barisg8656 3 года назад

Armin i recently started watching ur videos and rediscovered archery. I took my 50# Grozer Turkish biocomposite bow and started training again. And Master Grozer's bows are truly a piece of art. Everybody who owns one should be proud. And a little note to Grozer, plz more info on the gpp, that would help.

@jareth7456 3 года назад

Oh Armin , I gotta have this bow you know how I love the tartar

@jpavlvs 3 года назад

I have a Grozer Hungarian #50. I will say this about Grozer. He backs his bows 100%. Years later I asked about a new string and he sent one at no charge. If you decide to buy a bow from Grozer you get a lot more than just the bow.

@Daylon91 3 года назад

I've been eyeing grozer bows especially the Assyrian

@lordofnothing255 2 года назад

I really enjoy your videos. They have woken my interest for traditional archery.

@doriscuriosities 3 года назад

Oh my goodness!!! What a beauty! The colors, the shape, the sound everything about this bow is simply magnificent ❤️

@ziranwolf2696 3 года назад

In addition to the informative presentation, I appreciate your humorous twist. Thanks

@rayjohn3946 3 года назад

Thank you Mr. Armin for a great review! My old sythian bow is a Grozer. They are a lot of bow for the money.

@markhorner6182 3 года назад

I love your bow reviews, please keep them coming. Grozer bows are beautiful bows a new must have!

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

thank you, I will do my best

@LifeisGood-ye8rl 3 года назад

Look at that C shape! Iam sure it was the standard C shape bow back in ancient time but nowadays with modern fiber glass bow this by far the most unique looking asiatic bow.

@magyararcher7478 3 года назад

What a great bow by a great Bowyer.

@magicdaveable 3 года назад

Gorgeous Bow

@arashardalan7497 3 года назад

Thank you for detailed reviews Armin! Amazing bow… hope I am the lucky one this go around 🤩

@theatrenisha9345 3 года назад

great review , thank you Master

@matthias7522 3 года назад

As always fantastic review, thank you so much for your work!

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

thank you for watching and commenting, that makes the difference

@bobjackson3307 3 года назад

That is some Sweet Shooting and right from the start. Super Review & Video.

@scandinavianarcher7015 3 года назад

Looks like a truly awesome bow. I am planning on building one myself.

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

let me know how it works out for you

@scandinavianarcher7015 3 года назад

@@ArminHirmer well if it turn out well, maybe there will be more, and one could perhaps find its way to malta 😉

@heikoapel5218 3 года назад

Another great biocomposite bow from Grozer. I am a lucky owner of an Assyrian and a Persian, an can confirm that the draw experience is really different from laminated glass fibre bows. Regarding durability: they really don't mind lightweight arrows, even if it feels like dry firing. There is also a video of Grozer, in which he tested a biocomposite bow by fixing it fully drawn and then cutting the string with an axe. They how survived without any damage. So I would say that it is quite hard to break them... A pity, though, that it is so hard or impossible to order a custom made bow from him. Practically you can just get the bows in stock, from my experience.

@TechWorkshop 3 года назад

Amazing Bow. Don't have the money for it yet but in the future when I get better at archery this is the channel that i will come to to get a bi composite

@visamedic 3 года назад

That a beautiful bow. I think I found one of many I like. Gonna have to get one in 55#. Nice review as always.

@johnmutton799 3 года назад

What a bow!

@justinhoffman2236 2 года назад

Can you explain to me the difference between torque ing and Khatra? Is it simply a style of khatra? The horn on Biocomposite is pure eye candy! Really enjoy these Grozer reviews.

@ArminHirmer 2 года назад

Torque is a rotational motion only while you over grip the handle. Khatra is more side and down

@gizmonomono 3 года назад

What a bow. I love it. These Grozer biocomposites are now more affordable then ever. How durable yould you say it is? More or less than a fiberglass bow?

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

I see no problem with this bow (even when I shot 6gpp arrows hehe) they will last

@levraipaslefaux9593 3 года назад

thank your test very good like ever i will buy scythian and tatar by grozer of course with my assyrian afther than my collection is ok. I think csaba must give you some royaltise.

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

hahaha thank you

@levraipaslefaux9593 3 года назад

@@ArminHirmer you never test some longbow why?

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

@@levraipaslefaux9593 my patrons never vote for one, no company is sending one for review :) but soon I will get a Howard Hill style longbow :)

@levraipaslefaux9593 3 года назад

@@ArminHirmer Ok in french we have some great longbow maker north archery make beauty bow go look on the web i think you love this bow and he mke some recurve to

@levraipaslefaux9593 3 года назад

@@ArminHirmer give me your private notice you prefer tatar or turkish by grozer?

@pierre5238 3 года назад

Already have the assyrian biocomposite from grozer , but this tatar will shortly be mine aswell

@megaknizzle 3 года назад

I have been trying to get in contact with him. Was he slow to respond?

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

have the Assyrian too but this one... man.....

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

@@megaknizzle can take a bit sometimes, but worth it

@pierre5238 3 года назад

@@megaknizzle after two years of intense shooting , the string of my assyrian were torn i wrote to them and three weeks later i received a new one for free . within 48 hours you should have an answer . on a smaller budget flagela dei makes excellent bow aswell

@VersesX33 3 года назад

How long does he usually take to send a bow? I purchased one about 2 weeks ago but still not been sent

@russparker1647 8 месяцев назад

I would like to hear an explanation of pressed horn and pressed sinew.

@ArminHirmer 8 месяцев назад

ask the bow maker please, I was not there when they made them

@gizmonomono 3 года назад

Packaging is not about the score, it's about sending a message to the bow builders. 😁

@kublaicarl4818 3 года назад

Nice bow.

@jenjen7728 3 года назад

Grozer and Nawalney, my two favorite bow builders that conjure up, in my warped mind, 2 different scenarios of dispatching ones enemies. With a Grozer bow one's arrow pins the enemy to a tree for the buzzards to feed. Quick and done, you move on. With Nawalney, you lure your enemy into your candlelit tent, have a fine meal, drink some wine and when you're finished with him your arrow pins him to your feather bed. Then you place your pretty bow up on the wall of your tent. But that's just me...😁

@tammynfletcher 3 года назад

I like it! Nice analogy of two of the best bowyers on the planet!

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

your mindset Jen :)

@jenjen7728 3 года назад

@@ArminHirmer I know, smh...but if I stifle it I get hives😂 Thanks for another enjoyable review Armin.👍

@jenjen7728 3 года назад

@@tammynfletcher hehehe thanks!

@Shimooo-o 3 года назад

Hi Armin, i just made a Patreon and will be supporting you for your awesome reviews and love for archery! is there a minimum amount in order to be able to join the giveaways?

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

hey Shimo, thank you very much. Every amount is fine for the giveaways

@trexypoo5360 3 года назад

Hey armin! Great video as always. I have an unrelated question maybe you can answer: I know you taught archery in lebanon 🇱🇧. I’m going to visit my family there soon and was wondering what was the archery club called and / or where it was? I’d love to see where the great Armin was teaching and, have a place to shoot during my stay there. Thanks!

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

Hi. I was teaching at the German School Beirut in their outlet in Doha. Official clubs are rare, as the bow is a "white" weapon there.

@trexypoo5360 3 года назад

@@ArminHirmer Thank you! Sadly seems like the schools closed now from my quick google search. Sadly :(

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

@@trexypoo5360 they close in summer times for around 3 months

@trexypoo5360 3 года назад

@@ArminHirmer ohhh I see. Thank you so much!

@reinholdfischer956 3 года назад

Servus Armin, wieder mal ein tolles Video 👍 Bei dir sieht alles so locker aus, bin Anfänger und komme mit der Daumentechnik immer besser zurecht aber mediterran treffe i gar nix, der Pfeil driftet immer nach links weg. Habe den Skythen von Flagellat Dei.Hast du einen Tip für mich. Schön Gruaß aus Viechtach Niederbayern.

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

Ja, bleib bei Daumentechnik hahaha die Abweichung ist normal, dang an kurze Distanz und adaptiere

@lebondave4377 3 года назад

Simon’s bows seems to be excellent but it cost twice the price ;) This one is impressive! 😎

@renevandruten6563 Год назад

I just received this bow that I ordered after finding your channel on RU-vid. Such a great review! I noticed with the bowstring that the strengthened middle part were you put the arrow is not in the middle. Does anyone know why, or is this just a coincidence? Thanx.

@srinjoyroychoudhury7034 3 года назад

Sir Please request archers tidbits to make 4 finger protectors

@jenjen7728 3 года назад

Huh...I was just going to hit him up to make a one finger protector, the all important middle finger. I only ever get a honking big callus on that one when I shoot Slavic.

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

Ask him directly, he does not work for me :)

@srinjoyroychoudhury7034 3 года назад

@@ArminHirmer Sure sir.😅

@jimmyhor78 3 года назад

Remarkably flat arrow trajectory at 30m.

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

Yepp

@jimmyhor78 3 года назад

Impressive shooting too.

@Archerstidbits 3 года назад

Woo-hoo!

@xuzhiluo5168 3 года назад

Grozer fabrique toujours exellence bow.

@Chris-iu5ol 3 года назад

Es klingt vielleicht nach einer dummen Frage aber woher weiß man bei diesem Bogen was oben und was unten ist? Ich konnte keinen Unterschied sehen. A Grozer Bow is on the bucket list to go to Australia that's for sure.

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

Meist haben sie irgendwo eine Beschriftung nach der man sich orientieren kann

@Chris-iu5ol 3 года назад

@@ArminHirmer ok und vielen Dank für die Antwort! Dann können meine Selbstzweifel jetzt wieder in den Schrank 😉

@matthewmaxcy1574 3 года назад

One day I will own a Grozer bow...one day...

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

you will not regret it

@ictw7521 Год назад

Ordered a Tatar a few weeks ago from Gròzer. And i ask him a few day´s ago which minimum arrow weight he recommends. Quote: "The minimum gpp is 8,5"

@ictw7521 Год назад

Addition: gpp for the biocomposite Tatar

@jonaseriksson6147 3 года назад

More longbow / flatbow :)

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

in the making

@jake4194 3 года назад

I wish I could find a lightly used grozer bow, I'd snatch it in a heartbeat. $450 is a little much for me even though it's fantastic value

@Marcfasel 3 года назад

Armin i think you will not give these bow away…😂😂😂

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

rub salt in my wounds.... I have to...

@drmanleyk Год назад

Is this bow now called the Persian? I see one Tatar of the Grozer website, and it looks different. The Persian looks like this one. If not, does anyone have any experience with the Persian? @armin hirmer

@ThomUdin 3 года назад

It look like crimean tatar for me, Beautiful curve btw

@ambidextrousarchery Год назад

🤯

@Q44bs 3 года назад

Does Biocomposite bow need to get warmed up with heat just like natural hornbow? In Indonesia the bowyer here are already tried to make their own "biocomposite" beside natural hornbow, efg bending, and hybrid (fiberglass plus horn). I myself prefer hybrid bow since they are a pleasure to use and shoot, and did not need luxurious treatment like hornbow. I hope you could review natural hornbow from Indonesian bowyer in the future :)

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

yes I would warm up a bit but esp when unstringing you need to be very careful and slow

@Q44bs 3 года назад

@@ArminHirmer is there any heater machine you recommended to heat the bow? I know in korean hornbow video the bowyer warmed the bow first before using it. Perhaps you could make an english friendly video about warming up the bow?

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

@@Q44bs warming up for me means, you simply bend the limbs a little before you start shooting and make them flexible so to say. No need for heat treatment

@Q44bs 3 года назад

@@ArminHirmer I see, thx for the info :)

@tammynfletcher 3 года назад

@@Q44bs the hybrids from your country are awesome! I'm waiting for a tartar from Kang Onnot as we speak!

@chroma6947 2 года назад

Which one did you prefer the tatar or turkish in terms of grip, draw overall feel

@ArminHirmer 2 года назад

Tatar

@edkovac8978 3 года назад

Sorry Armin for correcting you, but Grózer is pronounced with "z" and not "zsch". You mastered his first name though 😉

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

I gotten used to pronounce it the wrong way and sometimes fall back into it :)

@Eiketsu89 3 года назад

"In Nomine... GROZER" LOL

@TechWorkshop 3 года назад

Armin i was wondering how can we order from grozer archery? Thx

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

in the description is the link to the website, I guess an email is okay or a message on Facebook

@TechWorkshop 3 года назад

@@ArminHirmer thank you

@mohdazri695 3 года назад

i want it.😭😭😭

@NAGU45042 11 месяцев назад

I want danush

@strydyrhellzrydyr1345 2 года назад

Lol.. what were u going for with the bag over u... Lol

@dasMoto 3 года назад

This bow seems to rock. Perfekt sice, beatiful curves. The colors are not mine, but whatever. Sound is also nice. No peung, just a short put. Compared to punching: Not a bitchslap, but a straigt centerpunch. Hahaha, during writing this, Armin:"flattening the curves..." I love your deep cynicism. Suggestion for your patreon bows: why don't you just use a bit of electrical isotape. Shoud be enough for a few shots... Or are these scratches your sign of approval? 😜😘 Thanks and keep up the good work!

@ArminHirmer 3 года назад

yepp, thats my signature hahaha