They mean out the gate. After a consult and you and your artist work out a solid design. I believe price can be discussed. If they have a problem with it they are pretentious. Yeah "art" shouldn't have a price but no tattoo artist this channel features would go beyond their means so don't get too discouraged about asking
Normally, I'd agree. Once the piece has been drawn up, you should be able to get a rough idea, give or take $100. But for a sleeve? There's no way to accurately give an estimate. I'm about 90% done a half sleeve, and each of the pieces were close, but off slightly. Over the course of a whole sleeve, Im sure it'd change a lot
Because it's not something you ask as the first thing, because a) it's literally impossible to say before discussing the design and the size and b) it comes off super disrespectful, because it says you only care about the price, not the actual work. AFTER you have discussed what you would like with the artist, discuss the design and placement a bit, then of course you can ask (respectfully) how much do they think it could cost you, because that is something you need to know eventually. And it's also fine to say "oh, sorry, that's a bit more expensive than I thought, I don't have enough right now" and most artists are very understanding if you want to postpone getting the tattoo.
Pashe Yvonne most will say how much they charge hourly and go from there. Ive had some that said hey that will be a four hour tattoo abd it ends up being six thats not my fault and hell not even theres just shit happens and itll take longer if the artist is a troll he will say oh it took loner than i thought here pay me 650 for it when i only brought 450 in cash but if he is a genuine person hed understand that charging me for those extra hours is kind of shallow knowing we had a confirmed price. Even then i still always bring in more then what the tattoo is anyway atleast by like 150 over
MegaSkilla with my tattoos I get estimates sometimes it’s cheaper other times more expensive you can ask after they really see sizing and figure if it needs color black and grey and such
But if I want a sleeve, of course I'm going to ask for an estimated price. Not a fixated one, but I just want to know if I'm going to be 1k shorter, or 5k. That's a huuge difference.
If you come in for a consult and work out a solid design with your tattoo artist first. Price can be discussed ofc. I don't think you have to pay everything at once either. Just in segments.
Mizu O. I think they are talking about people who are looking for a fixed price. Plus depending if you want more large medium or small tattoos and what you want to fill in space in between and how they blend together is a huge long process that should be talked in length and price should not be the main or first question asked.
I think they mean don't just come in and ask how much is a sleeve lol. Cause its varies depending on what you want to get. Once they know what you want, then they can give you a better idea about price.
Most artists have an hourly rate. Once you start getting pieces of the sleeve done, you'll get an idea of the total cost. Its impossible to figure out how long it'll take until you get going. I had a piece done that we figured 4 hours, and it was closer to 6. Its about 45% of my forearm. So if it fluctuates that much for the whole arm, that could be like a difference of almost 6 hours for the whole job. That's a huge difference.
They literally only mean that it is IMPOSSIBLE to estimate a sleeve before you have the design in place. That's not just for a sleeve - that goes for any tattoo. But sadly there are a lot of people who don't really care what they get, and will ask up front "how much you do tattoos for?", when it's a) not possible to say until you've got the design, size and placement down and even then it's a ballpark number at best, and b) that's just disrespectful if the first and only thing you even care about it is the price.
With regards to being intoxicated, I'm kind of surprised they didn't talk about how alcohol will thin the blood and make it harder to take the ink at full capacity.
There's been dozens and dozens of these videos. Pretty sure Inked has a couple alone, so they probably left out things that have been said over and over. I almost didn't bother with this because it's ANOTHER dos and don'ts video, but it was actually decent, with some fresh content.
My only issue with the price thing is if I go to an artist wanting a tattoo.. and they take the time to draw something up, we figure out placement and color.. it feels like I’m wasting their* time if they say it’ll be 1000$ but I only have let’s say, 800$. Especially for people who have to take time and save. I would never haggle for less but I hate feeling like I’m wasting the artists time by going through the entire process but realizing it’s more than I have. Then again it’s hard knowing how much to save, how much wiggle room to account for and then tipping on top of that. It’s a whole thing and it always has made me anxious lol..
I waited years to get tattooed for this same reason. I had no idea how much it would cost. Now I have 3 so I feel like I finally can est on my own pretty good and know what i'm willing to pay.
Everyone I go to charges by the hours and ive gotten a lot of tattoos so where I'm from about 100$ an hour is fair or if it's an apprentice $75 an hour
I once was getting a tattoo and this couple who had no tattoo walked in and they were talking to an apprentice and she was going to tattoo a six letter word on him for 200$. I felt bad for them
THAT'S. NOT. HOW. IT. WORKS! They come up with a plan and give you an estimate after you've discussed what you want, how much space you wanna cover etc.
No the thing that we explain is that on a larger scale project it's very hard to give an estimate that's gonna be accurate and people wants exact number and it's impossible number of time I said about 2000 and it end up being more 3500 and people get very mad
I've gotten several tattoos from the girl on the left, Alisha Gory, and that's not how it works. You have a consult, they review your idea and they either tell you their hourly rate and how many hours they think it will take them, or they just give you a price for the project. With Alisha, she's always hit the nail on the head for how long it would take her, or she ended up doing it faster than quoted.
Sabrina Nolan most want a ballpark range. You can normally guess about how long it may take and you can always disclaim that the estimate may be more or less and I will keep you updated as we go.
Isla Gurney might come off as weird but it’s kinda cool seeing an asian woman with thick hair! I have thick hair but I usually see girls with thin hair.
@Sexy Girl Um just because I said one of them is beautiful does not mean I was saying the other girl was ugly or anything. Complimenting one person isn't putting other people down fuck off out of here with your negativity...
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E.g on Inkmaster there was a guy with no tattoos and Oliver Peck kept on insisting he should get tattooed to be respect as a tattoo artist. An acquaintance of mine worked at a tattoo shop as a piercer and his boss, who was a tattoo artist, had no tattoos. All his employees found it odd and didn't take him seriously...
I may not be a tattoo artist but I am a personal trainer. People come to me for my services as well & I don't understand the whole not asking for price thing. It would be awkward to finish training someone then tell them a price they couldn't afford. Imagine you're at a clothes store and see some jeans you like without a price tag and the cashier goes "it's either you want it or not." Then the jeans end up being $2,716.
They mean not asking about it up front. A tattoo is not a ready-made pair of jeans. It's more like very specific jeans you want designed for you. You can't estimate a price of a tattoo before discussing the size, placement and design. At best they can tell you their hourly rate, but that's going to be worth diddly-squat, because if they don't know what you want to get done, they can't tell you how long it might take. AFTER you've discussed the design and everything, of course it's fine to ask how long it might take and how much it might cost you, because you need to know if you can afford it. But even then, you need to keep in mind it's a ballpark guess at best, especially for multiple-session projects like a sleeve - how long it takes not only depends on the level of detail of the design and the size, but also how well you sit during the tattoo, how much you bleed, etc. For example, if you have a low pain tolerance or unintentionally move around a lot, that's going to slow it down. If you're someone who naturally bleeds more, that might make it more difficult for the artist to see what's going on, so that might slow it down. So you're never going to get a fixed price on something like that, even less so if that's the first thing you ask with no context.
Squishy Muffin they dont say that it is always going to be a surprise. But it is so strange to ask a price without even talking about the tattoo, the size the design etc etc. affffter you can ask about an estimate
It’s when people are really vague. How much for a wolf tattoo? Ok where? How big? What style/color? How much for a sleeve? Ok well a sleeve with all realism is gonna cost like 300% more then just an all tribal all black design. When your very specific and when you and your tattooist/tattoo artist decide something very specific they’ll give you a very close estimate. But you’ll want to be flexible because if you set a price they’re likey to play it safe with that price they might rush it might take longer then expected then it’ll go over their price range. They may make it smaller or add less detail for the same reason. Just plan on spending allot if you have $700 to your name don’t expect a sleeve in one visit or it’ll look like shit. I’d have at least a half a G to spend to get a single tattoo the size of soft ball. At LEAST G for a half sleeve of something simple. But that all depends on the artists skill, experience and simply what they choose to charge. It’d be like me going to where you work and saying how much would it cost to get me down to 25% body fat. Wouldn’t you want to know how hard I work? How many hours in a week I’m willing to put in. What my current body fat is? What kind of diet changes I’m willing to do. Even with that knowledge would you be able to give me a realistic estimate? Bleeding and how you sit for that tattoo would be like me going on a binge one day. You just don’t know how it’s all going to play out. Sorry that was long. I wanted to describe it well and genuinely. Have a great day!
You know beforehand how many hours you'll spend with your client, so you can give a fixed price. It's closer to someone sending an email to you and asking how much is it for them to get fit. No details on what they consider "fit", no information on their past or present health, not even a picture of how they look now, they just want to know how much does it cost to get fit. While you might have ideas already that work for a lot of people to get started, tattoo artists don't even have that luxury.
I don’t think it’s asking the price exactly it’s more so trying to bargain the price I mean that would piss me off. If I was an artist and you wanted a price after I see what you want cool but if you try to low ball the price that’s not cool.
Everyone upset about pricing- usually your tattoo artist will ask “what’s your price cap?” And you two go from there. I got a really beautiful arm piece that I was at the most willing to pay 350 for, and my tattoo artist rendered the drawing and sizing accordingly and it turned out being around 200 once all was said and done. Also- your tattoo artist might also gauge pricing on how much they like you; if you’re a heinous, hateful customer they might make you financially compensate for being an asshole so just be cool (200 might become 250). Most artists also overestimate their pricing so it’s kind of a pleasant surprise at the end when you get 50 bucks knocked off of what you were already willing to pay. Remember- not only are you paying for the artist’s time, you’re also paying for the supplies necessary to tattoo you!
My tattoo artist did all of my dad's tattoos in the last years of his life, I got about 1/3 of my thigh covered with a blacked out Raven for 200 before tip, very beautiful. I think relationships can be important here. Also from the US
@@meltedcrayons5729 it's someone's artwork that's going to be on you forever. If you're going to a shitty scratcher with a tattoo machine charging for good artist rates I understand but good artists should charge what they charge. They're making a living doing this and it's not an easy skill. It's pricey but what isn't that lasts forever?
I think what she meant by “don’t ask for a price”, she meant to not ask for the price of a SLEEVE. Every sleeve is different, some are more full, others not so much. I think she meant to not ask for the price of a sleeve in general. Find the design of everything you want, show them, then try to discus a proc
There was lots of new info I hadn't thought of! Choosing one sleeve style...oh my god, it's just such a heart stabber, but I hear ya. I want to seek my apprenticeship soon. Thanks for all the tips, girls!
I may be ignorant, but I do ask for the pricing. Basically just ask if they charge per piece or per hour. Then ask for an estimated amount of hours. I know it can take either more or less hours, but this way I can calculate in my head about how much it would most likely cost me. Comes in pretty handy if you can pay for what you're getting. :) The 8 people that have tattooed me so far, luckily never made a big deal out of it and were all pretty chill. Just be respectful and you'll be good.
The main thing with asking price is wanting to be able to have enough money so that it's not an awkward situation where the tattoo is already done and you dont have the money for it. thats mainly what i want to avoid
@@johnathanmiranda9065 so i should deal some drugs and run some women just for thr moneyz. Doing something while you know someone isnt in their right mind and you know that them being intoxicated will cause problems just for the money is ridiculous.
I was wondering if you guys could do a video with the artists on the best way to prepare for a full day sitting. The dos and don’ts, what’s rude, tips to describe with the pain ect. I’ve got a full day sitting next month and low key freaking out but very excited! Love you guys
I always do full days. 8 hours. One break. The first half of the day is fine but the second half can be rough. You’re all out of endorphins, you’re starting to swell and bleed at every new line, you’re tired so it hurts more. I would recommend lots of liquids and sugary drinks with electrolytes to replenish how much liquid you’re gonna lose. Also plan to feel physically shitty for at least a week and depending on the area, unable to live life normally. It’s a lot of trauma. For instance I did both my shins one day and my ankles got so swollen for almost two weeks I had trouble walking or even sitting without elevating my feet.
Get a good nights sleep and eat a good meal before and just be relaxed as possible. Try and not take too many breaks because my ads to the pain in the long run and be mindful what you doing the few days after. I had a thigh piece go to 7 hours and I couldn't even put weight on it without it hurting.
Lots of sleep before hand eat a big meal beforehand not too close to appointment time of course and bring a couple Gatorades or Powerades to drink during and try and take as few breaks as possible everytime you start back up its gonna hurt more
Oh and make sure to wear extra deodorant and alot of times i will bring some with me and reapply during a lunch break bc i sweat alot during long tattoos sessions
First of all, Idk why y’all just talking about the dark haired girl. The girl of the right is GORGEOUS, her accent is adorable and she is a sexy woman. Just saying... show her some love...
most of my tattoos are basically a patchwork of different designs that stick to a theme, left is family right is interests upper body left is b&w right is colour whereas my legs are swapped so the left is coloured and the right is black and white :D I love it because I see myself as a patchwork of different experiences
I love how different the styles are but both have very beautiful and feminine ink. I love the bold lines and intricate patterns Alisha has and the detailed realism with Sabrina's.
Thank you for talking about copying tattoos. The tattoo I have has a lot of meaning for me and I was so upset when I saw someone copy it with another artist.
regarding prices; i first told my tattoo artist my idea and how big i wanted it. Then they gave a pricing after i asked if they could tell me how much it would be . just cause i wanted to be respectful of their time. For me to make someone make this amazing drawing for me and put time into it without me knowing how much it would cost me seemed to me, disrespectful. I want to make sure i can pay you for your time. And they really understood me. I think you can try and ask for a lower price but don't put on the table what you think it should be, but try to ask on how much they are willing to go down. Nothing forced though. If they cant go down its still fine. We are not forced to get a tattoo from then and the tattoo artist is not forced to make it cheaper. That's at least what i think and has been working for me.
The first tattoo I ever got was a neck tattoo! hahaha, my artist called me crazy and then agreed to do it, almost 10 years later and no regrets :) at the end of the day, it's up to the individual to make proper life choices, omg and especially for foreign text tattoos - not the tattoo artist haha.
___pphh yeah but the tattoo artists always put their own style into it so it’s not like they are copying the tattoo. That’s what my tattoo artist did cause I got a snake with roses off of Pinterest. It’s the same idea but completely different style
Unknown no. Something like roses is just a generic thing that anyone can do bc a Rose is a real normal thing. But if the image you took off Pinterest is super unique, that’s different.
@@Selene666 ??? You guys are the ones that need to be polite, judging people for the tattoos that they have, just cause you are scared of the idea of someone getting a tattoo on their genitals doesn't mean it's wrong of it's some fetish thing, learn to be respectful and tolerant, also be open minded for God sake, stop the ignorance
I brought my toddler to a consultation once but my husband came too and had him in his arms or stroller and he definitely did not touch the ground or even cry. Turned out to be a good thing the artist asked me if I was still breastfeeding and told me to wait till my son was weaned before making an appointment. I hadn’t considered that it could effect my milk
I love how honest you girls are, it helps me as well for the future because when I'm older I want to become a Tattoo Artist as well. Your advice helps thanks.😊
I worked with a guy who got a rose on his neck for his first tattoo, being that I was one of the more heavily tattooed people at work I told him “it looks great but it’s a ballsy move”. Luckily it was done well so hopefully he doesn’t regret it later.
If you bring a tattoo from Pinterest or a photo tell them “ I want something like this!” Never say exactly like this because you are copying someone else’s work if you want exactly like that!
I think the easiest thing to do with people that dont understand the body movement changing the piece, just draw a rough sketch in the place they want it. Yes it takes extra time, but it will help them understand what you are saying.
"if they have a situation" .. if someone is in a situation where they cannot pay full price they should not be getting inked? I mean even if it's something like to memorialize a passed loved one, they should be able to pay full price like any other customer. A very common art tip is that if you can't pay for it, don't get it, whether you're commissioning an artist, getting a tattoo, or even getting a piercing imo. You don't do that at restaurants, so why is it that people think this is okay to do with artists? :(
I have a very limited budget. My latest tattoo was estimated to be 6 hours. It took 9. Artist charged me for 8 hours and understood when I didn't give him a tip. Some artists want to tattoo people with limited budgets. They don't all set prices by how much they can get. Some artists keep their prices lower because that is who they want to tattoo. As long as there is respect both ways it is fine.
Dave Brown - Most recently, I asked my artist to commission something for me. He asked me how much I was willing to spend; He asked so he’d know what he was looking at in terms of time, detail, etc. So I told him. Sometimes, it’s not bad to discuss pricing beforehand. I don’t want to screw over my artist. Ever. I never want him to feel as though he’s been cheated, or taken advantage of. If he quotes me a price I can’t afford, I schedule an appointment with him at a later date to be able save for it. It’s pretty simple. It’s not haggling to check beforehand so you don’t screw someone over.
I think they say don’t ask price because artists usually charge an hourly rate so it will be based on how long it takes to finish a piece not a fixed price on a piece
My first serious tattoo shop experience: Called ahead asked if any artists were availavle for a consulation guy on phone said "yes come in at any time" Ended up talking to some dude while he was tattooing some guys back and the "artist" was only willing to COPY the inspiration I brought in. I did NOT want a copy I wanted the art style used with some alterations and variations. He said "I'm not doing that. I'll do whats in the picture but thats it"
Usually when I get a tattoo I bring 1 friend cause after a tattoo I usually feel light headed or just sleepy. So they take me home afterwords. But I always tell them please be quiet or don’t say anything about the tattoo to the artist. Disclaimer: yes i eat before I go, I make sure I drank plenty of water it’s just for some reason after a tattoo I feel sleepy or weird. My friends are assholes so I have to kinda bark at them alil.
Yeah I think it’s the adrenaline telling you “hey please stop poking yourself with needles!” I always get sleepy after getting tattooed so I have a friend basically DD and quietly watch the process in the corner and take me home afterwards lol.
im the same way after getting tattood. i always try to be good and eat before and drink water / keep my blood sugar up but to no avail. every damn time i feel tired and sometimes a little sick after. i dont have to drive though i take a train.
In ZA, it's actually illegal to tattoo someone who's under the influence. I lowkey thought that's just a global thing and it was a joke in American movie about getting a drunk tattoo.
Omg. I about had a damn heart attack when one of the other tattoo artist’s kid ran up to the artist ACTIVELY tattooing my thigh and gave him a big hug from the back. I love kids but I almost lost it. Thank god my artist managed to fix the line.
Brought my mom along, she is a nurse Everything was in order and clean, but the guys from the studio got really nervous at first And yes, she was chill about it, she's always wanted to get a tattoo, since before I was born, and even now that she's approaching 50, she still wants one. But she always chickens out. I'm trying to get her used to it so she can finally do it one day
People are freaking out in the comments on the 'don't ask for an estimate thing' That is specifically for a sleeve! It's not something you can do in one sitting. The artist has to design it and then it takes forever to get it done. What if you need one more session. For single peice tattoos, obviously once its drawn up, you get a price. And some artist can tell you a price once you describe it. But a sleeve is huge
It can be easier for them to get to the "flow" if they don't need to focus on a conversation at the same time; most generally don't mind, especially given that they know you're probably not as used to sitting/lying still for hours in silence as they are; some like to chat. I personally wait for the artist to initiate the conversation and try to not break silences when the needle is on me, and chat while the artist is fiddling with the tools.
I had to tattoo myself to graduate the apprenticeship. It's awful, but I will not cover it up. It's a constant reminder about how hard I worked to get into this industry and the growth
I get so tired of tattoo artists saying "dont ask for an estimate for X". Dont tell me its not possible to give me an estimate for a sleeve. I build houses for a living and If i can give someone an estimate for a house that costs $200k - 2 million with all the unknowns that can come at you through building a home start to finish then you damn sure should be able to estimate a tattoo.
Exactly. Would they rather end up telling someome their tattoo is 2000$ and the person only has 1500$?? In that case id rather tell my client an estimate whats so hard about that.
What's the etiquette on asking your artist their Starbucks/lunch order on our way to the appt? Lol I eat beforehand and want to extend an offer to them because they're going to sit as long as I am.
So I brought my baby while my roommate was getting tattooed because my roommate asked me to bring her. And one of the artists asked me to leave with my baby and take her outside because she was running around and I didn't get mad because I understand. She is distracting.
The only "haggling" you should do about costs would be ask about a payment plan especially if the tattoo is going to take many sessions, usually I'm surprised when the tattoo costs LESS than I thought, which is awesome because if it's a great tattoo then I can tip them more.
