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I am the PROUD owner of a Taurus G2C. This firearm is something to brag about because you're getting the reliability, accuracy (if not better), structural integrity and compact design of a Glock 26, for a fraction of the price. I trust this gun with my life every day. The price of the G2C and good reviews makes a lot of people believe "its a good gun for $200", NO! Its a good gun PERIOD! Taurus is not the same conpany it once was. They are making sure that everyone can afford a good reliable defense weapon. I dont have $600 for a Glock (or equivalent) So Taurus made damn sure to provide me with one I can afford. Hats off to Taurus for manufacturing a dependable, reliable and accurate firearm that I can trust and afford.
Bought mine last year for fathers day , runs great and very reliable. I have approximately 3500 - 4000 rnds. through it with no hiccups. Hard to believe but this sucker runs. I was a Taurus hater for a long time, this little gun changed my mind.
I was telling KSGunGuy & some other channels it is great Taurus makes these cheap guns like the G2C for lower income folks. *jmqrz40* I hope you all the best in life. Hopefully you will move up in income one day to get a high-end weapon. *There goes I but by the grace of God.* Peace.
Making an assumption about someone’s net worth based on the fact that they like a Taurus is truly short sided. Income has zero to do with enjoying a gun.
@@sweetcostarica , it has nothing to do with money it has everything to do with what gun u like. I wish my p320 compact had the double strike capability like this gun has.
@@sweetcostarica Thanks, one day I just might make enough to own a firearm that you will approve of, I will make sure to update you on my status as soon as that happens.
I love my G2C, I've been carrying it for about 10 months now and I've never had a problem with it. I've got way more expensive pistols that aren't even close to the G2C in terms of features and especially value. I think that this is the single best firearm ever produced by Taurus.
750 rounds , 5 different ammo brands and not one problem. Quite impressive accuracy as well. Bought as a throw away gun but it's turned into my carry gun.
Ditto. Had mine for two years now, well over 3000 rounds and the only time I had trouble was when I let the magazines get dirty and had fail to feed issues. Cleaned the mags and it was back to perfection. Don't forget to periodically clean the mags on your semi-autos! Had the same issue with my SD40VE.
I enjoyed my PT-111 G2 so much I got a G2C. Both very good, the G2C did not like steel case ammo, but it was also brand new... brass was no issue. Happy shooting! 👍👍👍
I bought two PT111 G2's when they were onsale. One worked, one didn't and needed to be sent back for warranty work. Got it back and both have been excellent. Well over 1k rounds through each one as my brother and I compete against other using them. I don't understand the hate. I have Colt, Ruger, Remington, Martin, Glock too and anyone of them will misfire if they get dirty enough.
My wife and daughter both carry the 111 G2. They love them. They both shoot 50 round practice drills every 2 weeks. Both guns have nearly 1000 through them. Zero issues even with my cast bullets reload.
I bought the G2C as a beater gun that I could just replace if it got lost or stolen without batting an eye. Lo and behold, it has become one of my favorite guns! I shoot better with it than most of my WAY more expensive guns. For kicks and giggles, I installed a Lakline stainless guide rod and the stainless striker guide and springs. I also put in a Keep Tinkering trigger. I take the barrel out, drop a round in the chamber, reinstall the barrel, put the muzzle down on a table, and press down on the back of the slide until the lip of the cartridge snaps past the hook of the extractor. Reassemble and carry in DA mode just as you would carry a revolver. Manual safety not needed. It has been 100% reliable and I love it!
Sandy Mitchell , most of the differences are minor. The biggest single difference is in the Keep Tinkering trigger. Eliminated the hitch from the blade safety. I still have the stock sights but have an Olight PL-II Mini gen 2. Very bright and easily adjustable to fit many guns. Magnetic charging too!
@@Vincemaster2007 OH, I'm not regretting buying my XD9, that's my EDC, but that G2C for being a Taurus is remarkable. I was floored by how accurate and reliable it is.
Thumb safety: I prefer to carry with one in the chamber. Many accidents occur when putting the gun in the holster. I love the thumb safety because I can set the safety, holster the gun, then unset that safety. I can eliminate that chance of shooting myself in the leg, but still be ready for trouble. It's a preference thing... that's just mine...
Every long gun (rifle and shotguns) has a safety because they’re all single action triggers, when the G2c is charged it is in single action and anyone that doesn’t use the safety is not safely handling this weapon!
This gun has similar internals to a Glock. I carry a glock in some fashion every waking hour of my life. As long as your finger is off the trigger, there should be no risk of an accidental discharge without the thumb safety. There is absolutely zero need for a thumb safety on this gun. Just an extra fine motor skill to worry about in a situation where fine motor skills are the first to go out the window.
The G2C is my personal carry weapon. I bought one as a cheap "toy", then I realized I REALLY liked it. I have just crossed 10k rounds through mine. When using "Winchester USA Forged" rounds, I have had several failures to eject. like 6+ in a 150 round box. Not counting the "USA Forged" I have had 3 failures to eject out of the 10k rounds. It is a fantastic carry weapon that I would put up against far more expensive brands.
Yeah, me too. I was told by a very knowledgeable firearms instructor not to run any steel ammo through as it would break the extractor...I’ve never had any issues with brass
That's some awesome count info. Yeah, WWB and the Forged crap are just that, crap. Only FTE I ever had on my G2 and G2C, were WWB 124 gr NATO. No more.
@@ajjohn8729 I run 9mm 115 Gr Brass FMJ like it's going out of style. She has yet to have a single issue with it. I carry it with JHP rounds, but I'm researching quite heavily the lighter JHP hard barrier penetration findings, and I may just carry those light 115 Gr FMJs. If you hit a sternum, or really even the lighter parts of a car or its windshield, JHP in any of the calibers 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP all have some difficulty penetrating. Sternum is like a little piece of light body armor; very tough little bone. .357 Magnum suffers very little from any of these concerns, but you also get at most, 7 or 8 rounds, reloading is slow even with speed strips or speed loaders (For me) and prepare to drop a bit of coin for a nice .357.
Have had mine for about a year and no problems, have about 1000 rounds through it and love it. It's my EDC and my wife's as well. Lil guy does the trick.I really want to get the G3 to.
I just bought a week ago my second handgun G2C and had first 200 rounds out of the box...zero hiccup! I prefer its all the way better than my first sigp320 in term of concealability , and reliability. GREAT gun, great value,tough gun,,,period.
Great video, as usual KS ! I'm glad you did this revisit on the G2C. I like mine alot! The trigger is no bother to me. Mine has been 100% and a very good shooter. For people who cant afford an overpriced firearm, like many of us can, this is a great gun. We have to remember there are people who are struggling out there and not as fortunate as some others. Taurus is serving those people and promoting 2nd Ammendment freedoms. God bless our Republic!
Thank you Mio! I do agree that it allows more people to get into shooting and have a reliable option for their EDC. Very well said brother. Cheers as always!
I have to tell you, I have nothing negative to say about the g2c. I prefer having a manual safety, because I know whether or not my pistol has one. If somebody is able to get my pistol from me or from my storage location, I remember a manual safety on my manual of arms, they might not. I've had mine for 3 years, the only misfires that I have had have been with a ProMag piece of garbage magazine. Every Taurus mag has performed perfectly well. I put a different trigger boot in to make it more robust. I put a stainless steel guide rod and new recoil spring in. The finish is no worse than the finish on my Gen 4 Glock 20, which admittedly is not very good. The pistol fits in my pocket and carries 12 rounds. Since it uses Sig P226 magazines, I can always make the capacity greater. If the pistol keeps performing well, I may take it over to Robar here in the Phoenix area and have them put some new protective finish on the metal in order to see just how long it'll last. One other benefit is that since I have big hands, I can actually put a full mitt on this pistol. The G26, Sig 365, and other metro-micros can't claim that, and the G2C does it at 40-30% of the price. Cost benefit analysis says that Taurus did a great job!
I just bought mine a week ago and I've been watching videos to learn more about what I've got. So far it seems like a made a good decision. Thanks for the information!
@@adriangarcia1758 Some of the old eastern bloc countries and I think it was either Phillipines or Indonesia basically just look the other way. The Swiss will be down to "Grandfathered In" gun ownership well within our lifetimes. Given the encroachment of the goat molester horde it would not surprise me if several of the old bloc countries significantly loosened their gun laws in the future.
I've owned Tarus Baretta weapons for quite awhile. My problem is they are out of stock. Does anyone have a clue as to when these items will be available
Owned my Taurus for 3 years and have put quite a few rounds through it. Zero problems. Will agree with comments on the trigger travel, but have gotten used to this now. All in all a great pistol for the price.
Like many of you here, I love my G2. In addition to being reliable, it's more accurate then it should be. I have run all kinds of ammo through this thing without a hiccup, unlike some of the high end units that I may or may not own. Keep it up Taurus!
Bought this just to use for indoor dry fire training with one of those laser bullet systems because of the second strike feature. It has exceeded my expectations for a gun that cost less than 200 bucks.
As a first gun, my G2C is great. I'm a newbie and like having the thumb safety. I've put about 1.5K rounds through mine and haven't had any problems with store bought ammo.
@@peebeeandray I've bought 1K each of Fiocchi 115 grain, Aguila 115 grain, and Blazer 145 grain. Also a few boxes of S&B 115 & 145 from the store. All have run flawlessly. The only problem I've had with the G2C is with some old reloads from a friend. They wouldn't seat correctly and the gun wouldn't go into battery. I think the brass had gone slightly out of spec. I haven't tried any steel case ammo yet, but I've seen some deals on Tula ammo and I'm tempted to try it.
Just curious as g2c is also my first gun. I've only put 100 rounds of federal 115 gr. No problems so far . I know it is not suggested to use +p ammo by manufacturer. But have you shot any through it?
Over 700 rounds and not one failure. Lakeline stainless ported barrel and metal guide / firing pin spring lock with stainless Galloway Guide rod (18 lb), extended 17 round magazines and Keeptinkering Trigger from day one. I love this gun.
I've had my pt111 g2 just about 3 yrs now, have over 4K rounds through it and only had a few failure to eject and some light primer strikes. Double strike capability comes in handy on the light primer strikes! Awesome little weapon, so nice I bought a second one, the G2C. 1K rounds through it and not one failure! Couldn't be happier! Thanks!
The Taurus Spectrum also has double-strike capability like the G2C. It's pretty unique to the Taurus pistols, I think. It's not a bad trigger - it just takes some getting used to - both on the G2C and the Spectrum .380 sub-compact. I have both, and once I got used to the triggers, they're actually pretty decent pistols, and yes, they're in the budget category, but both of mine have borne out to be reliable as the day is long. I'd readily put one in my pocket or on my belt and feel well armed.
PT111 and a G2C here. 3300 rounds through the 111, 1200 through G2C, the only hiccup was with Winchester Forged Steel case, donated by a friend who bought a box and hated it, and my pistols hate it. Going through a number of reviews, it's not an uncommon issue with that ammo. Fortunately, only 6 of the 75 rounds hung up, and now that they're used up, that'll be the last time I chance them.
I got one for my wife. I'm a 45 carrier and this thing definitely opened my eyes. I love the weapon... I wish she didnt want it in purple, but it's a great firearm.
We ♥ the G2c!! Bought one a year or more ago and never had a failure with it. Then a month or two back, Rural King had them for $189 and Taurus was running $25 mail in rebate. We went to get the old lady one and I ain't never been good at passing up a good deal, so we ended up rolling out of there with 2 of them. In the end we had right around $350 invested. Got my eye on the Smith /Wesson M and P Battleworn 40 cal. right now. Firearms can be addicting and that's a fact!! 😂 Lol.
I have 2 G2C .9mm, and I must say I love them both. I have run over 3000 rounds through them, and never had a problem. I have changed out the recoil spring and rod to a stainless set up, but only for my preference. I have purchased them both new for under $200.00, thanks to price matching, and I must say again, I Love this weapon. I also love this video, nice to see someone back the weapon, instead of badmouth it for a change. Tight shot group, the three inch hole I bore in the targets, is just about the center of the heart, and that is at 25 feet.
This gun is my First Taurus, and I couldn't be happier. I have a 1911 Colt, S&w, ruger, and I gotta say there's nothing cheap feeling about this inexpensive gun. 👍👍
I got one today, put 100 rounds though it, a lot of them rapid fire, and the thing runs!!!! The new mags did cause one fail to load on the second shot though, but that's a normal new mag thing, and after that one on the 2nd round it ran -PERFECT-(These mags are pretty good with only one issue breaking in), and I competition shoot and know how to beat up on a gun hahaha
Another great video from KS.Shows that you are not a gun snob.I know you have more expensive handguns,but you still give Taurus credit. I always enjoy your videos.Keep up what you are doing.
Thank you Abram! I like all guns as long as they go bang and I can shoot them reasonably well. High end or budget, it makes no difference to me. Cheers brother!
Saw this gun at the local store $199 so I bought it. I’m very satisfied with the weapon n enjoy hearing such great reviews. Thank you Taurus for making a weapon at a price point most can afford. Happy shooting
I took several guns to the range yesterday and G2c was one. Ran like a champ. It's not going in my carry rotation but it's a fun gun and my wife enjoys it.
Like how ya said NOT going in your rotation.... I’ll also stick with my PPS, P99, G26, G19 or 320 and possibly the P30L But hey I wouldn’t carry my TP9 SF Elite, FNS9 or TP9V2 for various reasons as well to each their own tho and just carry!
I got the g2 a few months before the g2c came out and love it. Been trying to convince my wife she needs one, but she's comfortable with her .380. Someday though...
I have one. Have about 600 rds through it thus far. I have noticed that it doesn't like the Aluminum case Federal rounds. That's the only round that I've had an issue with. Other then that, I love it!! Can't beat the gun for the money..
I am glad I found this video. Great overview. I have had my g2c for right about a year and have put 1500 rds through it. I had 2 fail to feeds on a very dirty gun. Keep them clean and they run with absolutely no issues. The finish on my slide has worn down significantly but it doesn't really bother me.
This trigger forces you to pull the trigger straight back! Which in my opinion is a great thing. It is a good trigger but you do need to train with it. Great gun and awesome price for sure.
Great Gun; I carry my G2C as part of a rotation that includes Glock as well. My G2C shoots like a laser beam and has never had a failure. Great gun for $200.
I'm the owner of a Taurus g2c 40cal and a g3c 9mm and have never had a malfunction in either, the trigger took a while to get used to but nice after you shoot it a while, I like a manual safety on any cc gun you just can't be to safe and the term Glock leg didn't just happen it happened for a reason,good video and I agreed on everything but the manual safety to each his own 👍👍👍
Shot 50 rounds through mine the first time the other day and omg I love it. Actually hit my targets and it was my 3rd time shooting a gun. First gun I’ve actually owned. Trigger was weird at first but 2 shots and I got it down. Last 5 shots I pulled the trigger back to back. Not a toy but boy I had fun.
I think people complain a little too much about the safety features on a gun, I mean I myself do not have any safety on my gun but. I started out using a Taurus pt111 G2 And for a starter it’s good to have the safety and also if you have children as well not like you’ll leave it laying around but for a sense of peace of mind it’s good to have.
With all of the positive reviews I bought 2 G2C's. I have an all black version and one with the FDE frame. One of them would occasionally be quite stiff to rack the slide but after 300 to 400 rounds both guns run smooth as butter and are very reliable.
Just picked mine up today after purchasing last Thursday. Excited to get to the range. Haven’t went to the range since 2021 before that my time in the Army back in 2009-2013
I'm really happy with mine! I like the thumb safety, no problem. I'm getting older and I've grown tired of the 1911 or big Smith I carry. I went searching for a lighter weapon and found the G2C. I added two 20 round mags and a Crossbreed holster, I'm set. This is the best rig I've carried in my life. All for less than $500 dollars.
I’ve had my Taurus G2C for a couple months now and like it very much! I’ve put close to 1000 rounds through it and it has not miss fired or malfunctioned yet. This is a terrific pistol and I look forward to many years of satisfactory use. It is my daily carry. I looked at other pistols before deciding on the Taurus, Glock, M&P, etc., I couldn’t be happier with this pistol.
Something I can have an informed opinion on! Yes, we know, thanks to social media, that everybody is entitled to an opinion. I do wish they were informed ones. I have had my Taurus for nearly two years now, and it is still going strong. I agree with your good and bad points, including the trigger. But once you get used to it, it introduces the budget shooter to the differences between it and the average plinker, and can help prepare you for the next level of guns such as the Glock. I like this trigger better than the G19. Can we call the Taurus a gateway gun? I don't think so, because those that purchase it need the most they can get for the money, and either can't or won't spend all the cash they have to join the RU-vid gun elite. That is, they aren't going to become gunslingers. I have no better word for it, but it goes beyond having a gun for defense or being a sheepdog. It takes on a life of it's own, and it is worse than crack. Meth addicts are easier to talk with than these guys when it comes to something different than Glock perfection- after you pay $500-600, add another $500 for sights and triggers, etc.- don't mention your Taurus. To them, it may as well be a High Point. The one unpopular thing I champion is the safety. My state doesn't care if I have one or not. They barely care if I have a gun at all, even though we do have some rabid 'disarm you' folks trying to get elected. They tell me I don't need a gun. I tell them that is the communist model. They don't need expensive suits, nice cars, fancy homes or bodyguards either. But they have them, and I don't tell them what they can have. Anyway, I work at a factory that places a lot of stress on the hands, using impact guns and other vibrating hand tools. (actually working and being blue-collar deprives me of my right to have an opinion according to the political elites, but social media says I can ramble all I want if I can still use a keyboard!) Anyway, I keep my Taurus in a holster in the glovebox. If I am going straight home, I don't wear it, but grab it when I get there. So I open the door, and the light doesn't come on. I fumble in the glovebox, grab the gun, and my tired, swollen, numb hands drop it in the seat. I tiredly pick it up, to find I have not only gotten my thumb into the trigger guard pressing the trigger, but it is pointed at me. Safety was on. After I changed my drawers, I contemplated different methods of carrying and transportation of said gun. True Story. God bless and have a nice day.
I agree with the safety comment. I don't really understand why anyone would be against it. If not preferred, it can be ignored. In addition of the above mentioned situation, when the totally uninformed access the gun, history says they will, it's another level of safety.
I tried it out a couple of months ago at a range in Houston and was pleasantly surprised. It was "enough" of everything you need. On a budget, hell yeah. I'll take it over a Hi-Point any day.
I have this gun, I have never had a failure of any kind. I have loaded the mag with different hollow points different grains and it just keeps on going. The finish on the slide has been gone. I just polished it and I carry it every day with the safety off. I love it.
The G2C and PT111 are the best sub 250 pistols you can get your hands on. I have noticed the price has been creeping up on them. Get em while they're cheap!! I love my PT111.
I am a big fan of Taurus and I totally love my Taurus G2C aka the pocket rocket. I wish Taurus would look into designing a double action fire arm with the same design style as the G2C. With that said, after putting about 5000 rounds through my G2C I find it to be an affordable, accurate, and reliable fire arm.
why register it ? know the government knows u have it and where to find it when they ban all the guns.... I just got a glock 26 Gen 5 and I definitely won't be registering that I have my permit to carry and a bill of sale that's all I need...
I'm a proud owner of a Taurus g2c PT111, going in 2500. Always clean it after the range time, no jamming always reliable, I also have an mck for it to, with all the upgrades and works, no complains for the price I purchase it. A good reliable home defense or EDC. Also did same thing you did Polish nail the front sight and rear sight for better view. Always hits on the dot. No complains.....
Some people just love to hate, I own four Taurus hand guns P-1911, .44 magnum, .357 magnum and the G-2-C and have never had a single problem with any of them.
Glad to hear over a thousand rounds without any problems, not a regular shooter so it may take me a long time to reach a thousand. Thanks for all the great videos!
I still can’t understand why some people say “I can’t stand a thumb safety”. If you “can’t stand it”, simply don’t use it! No one is forced to use it if a safety is so equipped. What the hell is so hard about that?
Just so I can make it clear on my comments I'm not a happy home owner looking for home protection. I'm a 8 yr 2 tour veteran. Retired law enforcement and teacher of firearm safety. This is my passion and the g2c and the TH9 is usually my every day carry
My EDC for 2 years! Functions flawlessly and conceals easily. As for the safety I believe in keeping your finger off the trigger is the best safety. Trust it with my life!!
Can you clarify? There is no way to carry the G2c loaded and uncocked. Double strike refers to the ability to pull the trigger a second time if you have a bad primer or light strike. If it's loaded, it's cocked.
@@bransonred1 To achieve loaded/uncocked you have to assemble the barrel/slide with a round on the extractor. It was tedious at first, but I wanted to spend range time getting used to the 2nd strike trigger pull. This requires break down-reassembly after every shot. After a 30 minute session & 40 to 50 shots, I'm a pro. If you're unsure, there is a video demonstrating the trick.
@@johntempest267 I gotcha. I couldn't wrap my brain around why someone would want to do that. So, carrying that way gives you DAO on your first trigger pull. If you don't mind me asking, what steered you to this level of safety? G2C has a robust (and very common) firing pin block that will not allow the pin to fall unless the trigger is pulled and the trigger won't pull without pressing the trigger safety bar and the manual safety needs to be in the 'fire' position. Have you had a bad experience with your G2C or were you just going for the extra, extra safety? This method is also hard on the extractor, so I've been told. Please don't misunderstand my questions, I'm generally concerned that there might be a safety issue that I'm not aware of. It's totally a personal preference thing. I've got somewhere around 8-9k rounds through mine, shooting mostly cheap, steel cased range ammo and have never had any issue other than 3 or 4 failure to feeds caused by a magazine, and my training has always been tap-rack-bang if it don't go boom. I think the double strike capability is not only unique to Taurus but it is very interesting...I just haven't been able to make myself pull the trigger a second time when using intermittent dummy rounds during training lol
@@bransonred1 I'm probably operating with an over abundance of caution. As an apendix carrier, the fear of blowing my balls off may be irrational. I know of no such mishaps. However, I recently changed from carrying unchambered to locked and loaded after watching videos explaining why it's a good idea. And this added measure helps ease the anxiety that came with the change. I've not got as many rounds thru mine as you, but I've had a couple of malfunctions (stovepipes), never a primer failure. So I feel I'm putting to good use a unique feature that otherwise is unnecessary. And your not the first to question it's validity or necessity. My reply is simply, why not? Extractor fatigue is the best answer I've heard.
I have purchased 8 g2c they are accurate and very reliable for the price the Taurus g2c is the best gun on the planet - it's my everyday carry plus liberty+p ammo - i have put over a thousand rounds thru mine it works flawless i shoot from 7yards to 20yards it performs like a beast - I shoot guns all calibers from the L cheap O taurus to the over-price FN 5.7 HK - SIG - MID-LEVEL 1911's - My Glocks 17 - 19 -37 got one left the 19 over 8 years old over 7500 rounds thru it flawless - It took me 1 month too master the G2C the fastest that i have ever with a gun on that note along Taurus destroyed the gun world with the G2C there is nothing under $450 close to it LOL PLAY WITH IT !!! GOODNITE!!!
For the past 3 months my EDC has in fact been a Taurus g2c. I've been fortunate over the years to carry various models from the more well-known Firearms manufacturers. Now I must State I've always been a big believer and a company that would offer and affordable gun of decent quality for the average citizen. Let's face it we all work very hard for the money we are and we want the most we can get for that money. BUT! We don't want to break the bank doing it either. As we are all well we're tourists in the last few years has had a pretty Rocky going. But I've always had faith that someday don't turn things around and it looks like they are on that road. Show of all the positive and very few negative reviews on the g2c I purchased one. I must say I'm very impressed with this weapon it boggles my mind that a gun to cost me less than $210 out the door. Has the features that I was looking for, it carries very well, very comfortable in hand and as long as the shooter does his part it's every bit as accurate as it's more expensive competition. It has been said Glock and the other big manufacturers are probably taking notice of the popularity of this particular gun. Well I have a good friend that works in Smyrna Georgia at the Big G Mothership. Yes big G is watching the g2c and its newly released Big Brother G3. Because Taurus has proved you can produce a reliable Striker Fired defensive pistol well within the budget of just about everyone. Yes at the moment Taurus has got the entire eyes of the gun manufacturing community watching them. And that can only prove to be a good thing for us the consumers.
There seems to be a lot of us that love this gun, and I certainly do. It has been serving me without a hiccup since these guns first came on the market. I enjoy shooting it more than any other gun I own, with untold numbers of rounds down range. If this was the only gun I could own, I’d be a happy man.
At about 1000 rounds shot through it, I am utterly impressed and will continue to train and master this firearm. I now conceal carry it and would trust my life with it should the need arise. The one thing I am not certain of is upgrading the spring and follower to stainless as I have not really experienced any FTE or FTF even using just plain old range ammo. I have owned it for almost 2 months now and I have yet to receive the factory rebate Taurus is offering on it to make the purchase even more palatable and enticing....it is what it is, good shooting and reliable 9 mm that takes any ammo you can feed it.