That certainly is a beautiful firearm. Even if it isn't a colt. The bluing looks good and the grips look good. That is truly an heirloom piece especially with the trigger job and everything smooth up the way you say it is. I trust your judgment. It is very nice.
Hi Mike, Your video pushed me over the edge, and I bought a 5.5" Smoke Wagon in .357. The case hardening on mine was MUCH darker than yours, so that was a relief. It's a fantastic shooter, feels very authentic, and seems robust to me. I bought a SS Ruger Vaquero in .357 the same day, and my wife loves the Ruger. That's fine, because I love the Uberti! Thanks for the video.
The only choice for restoration, Doug Turnbull. I used to live in upstate NY just around the corner from Doug's shop. I had my original Sharps 1859 45-70 cartridge conversion restored by Doug. Talk about a beautiful Sharps when it came back! The Smokewagon's exterior now definitely matches its interior! Thanks for the great vid as always.
Now the line makes sense! In the movie Tombstone, when Wiatt Earp tells Johnny Tyler to, "Skin that smokewagon and see what happens." he is referring to actual name of Johnny's pistol? Good shootin'!
I just got mine Yesterday in the 4.75 inch it is supposed to be the Taylor tuned edition as well. One thing i noticed while watching your video was yours has the traditional "4 clicks" and mine only has three. Is this something that will "wear in" after time and shooting? Also any advice on an outlet for custom grips for these and what grips might be compatible? Love your videos
I have a Smoke Wagon in a .357 5-1/2" I really like it, I also have the Runnin Iron in .45 with a 3-1/2" barrel both are deluxe with the tune job they really are smooth pistols.
Nice to see you shoot a shorty ( 4 5/8" ) , Mike . LOVE the grips ! My Pietta Pistolero ( El Cheapo ) wears fake Buffalo Brother's Ivory , but I think She looks great with the brass backstrap . Mine is a .38 / .357 so Momma will shoot it too. Good shootin' to ya .
Yes Turnbull Restorations has done the CCH and bluing on this gun and on a few of my other single actions. Done properly color CCH only puts a hard skin on the steel.
How does this compare (in terms of authenticity/functionality) to the Cimarron Model P (the old model)? I'm looking at both of these right now- the Smoke Wagon speaks to me, but I really like the fact that the Model P is based off of original specifications as well.
I just bought one of these and unfortunately, the newer smoke wagons now have the Taylors & Co logo carved into the walnut grip on both sides, close to where it meets the frame. While it is finely detailed, I think it takes away from the authentic look. I'm going to try and find the older model grips with no logo. Otherwise, a nice revolver.
Should I just get my money back or have them send it in again? I really am afraid of having this problem again, and I have no gunsmithing skills whatsoever so I can't change the bolt on my own. My used Taurus model 82 that I've had for a few years is still performing fine after 400+ rounds.
Awesome! I have enjoyed your videos. I have a Uberti Henry Rifle and have long wanted a 73 Colt chambered for 44/40 to match. One question, why do you load black powder?
Seems to me a firearms company says it has a custom shop the customer could order these changes from them instead of buying the gun from one person, finish from another, tuned action from somebody else and grips from god knows who. Since I was a kid magazine writers would say how great a gun was and then go on about all the work they ordered for it. I always wonder if this extra work makes that great of a difference or is it just writers checking endorsement boxes so they get paid.
Nice shooting and thanks for the video!! I have been waiting for a Uberti El Patron for nearly two months now from my LGS. I recently did some reading and found out about the Smoke Wagon and Long Hunter's services. I am considering just ordering a Smoke Wagon from Long Hunter. It seems to me the El Patron and Smoke Wagon are basically the same gun, or am I wrong? They look the same and list a lot of the same specs but I am not positive. Thanks for any info/advice/insight you can offer.
I'm intrigued by this gun. After recently shooting quite a bit of 45 colt through my Old Army (via conversion cylinder) I've decided that I "need" a dedicated cartridge cowboy action shooter. This one looks impressive but the vid's a little dated now. Today (Xmas Day, 2015) the "Deluxed" Tuned version is listed on Taylor's website for $711.00. I've no doubt it's a fine piece and probably(?) would be slicker than a New Vaquero. But I know Ruger - I own 7 of them. I know how their guns hold up and how they've taken care of me in the past. Research continues, but especially considering the current price-point, the New Vaquero seems to be the way I'm leaning. Subject to change.
could not make out who u said did color case harden, would love to get it done to my new army conversion , can u suggest some one , love your site ,I'm new to old west guns , (mike in okla city) heard it makes metal brittle , and u should not fire them , yours fired just fine , i will do more research , can you help me on info , going to get the magazine u write in , thank you sir
@@duelist1954 Is the demand for Egyptian Empire jewelry boxes causing them to be poached daily? It seems you are the one lacking common sense, not to mention a grasp of simple logic.
@@jamesevans9007 I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that you simply don’t know the relevant facts in this matter. The fact is that there has been no United States market for ivory gun grips since 2016, when the federal government banned the interstate sale and transport of all ivory, including legal, pre-ban ivory. Every ivory grip maker in the country either went out of business, or changed to other materials. As far as I can determine from my law enforcement friends, there is either no black market for ivory grips, or it is too small to take notice of. The fact is, that almost all of the ivory poached in the world is sold to China, where it is made into decorative objects, not gun grips So, yes, museum pieces are much more of an inspiration to the buyers of poached ivory than gun grips. So, your desire for me to destroy my legally obtained ivory gun grips, that were made 20 years ago, from 100-year-old tusks, will have zero impact on ivory poaching today. It is virtue signaling in its purest form. It is akin to demanding that the British museum throw its collection of Roman Empire Coins into the ocean because they were originally earned by the use of slave labor.
@@duelist1954 I appreciate your taking the time to respond, but you are still dealing in false equivalencies. There simply is no parallel between ancient man-made objects and the ongoing illegal poaching of an endangered species. Choosing elephant ivory, however old, as an innocuous decorative element only serves to signal, at least tacitly, your sanction of an activity that was as deplorable in years past as it is now. Think this through; do you wish to encourage in any way, however small, the demand for a material that endangers the survival of an irreplaceable species? Surely not.
Hello, nice revolver. I have observed all the brands of these revolvers, they are too cute, but in all of them I have observed that they have a problem that they have not improved over time, and it is the tail of the trigger, or how they call it trigger, it is very fine and makes mistakes at the moment of the shot aiming or instinctively, and the grip of the hand is disarranged, a detail to improve later, I wonder if the factories Taylor, Winchester, Cimarrón, Pietta, Uberti, have not In fact, it did improve S&W, as I own a .38 spl double-action revolver from March 3/1894 '. In this revolver that detail was improved, in the single-action ones they should do the same, they would feel more comfortable when shooting with a fast face. My opinion is based on the fact that I am a HAAS VF6 50 Center Trainer of vertical and horizontal milling, I am The improvement continues, if it were not for this pandemic, I would be in Houston working, but life presented me with another option, but nothing is impossible, everything can be done with will and determination. Kind regards Denis Morend, Industrial Technician from the City of Cutral-Có province of Neuquén Argentina.
Mike, I have a problem with my Uberti Hombre. The bolt that keeps the cylinder locked has been rubbed down some. Now, there's play when my hammer is pulled back all the way. I'm not sure how it has happened, for I have only had the gun for a little over a week. I bought a Cimarron SAA from this same gun shop a few months ago that had the same problem after a month of owning it, so I had them send it back. The Cimarron's cylinder spun on full cock, but my Uberti hasn't gotten that bad yet.
Love it, are elephant ivory legal in the US ? I bought a tusk about 20 years ago (fairly small) enough for four grips, wich I made myself with carved monograms for some of my Colts, nothing but Colt !
I was very disappointed in Taylors "Smokewagon deluxe" version of this gun by Uberti in .45 Colt. It looks great, but shoots inaccurately. At 10 yards, It shoots about 6 inches high and 4 inches left, with both 200 gr. and 250 gr. factory ammo. I have a snubnose .38 that is more accurate. I am an experienced shooter, but I could not hit a 1 liter plastic water bottle at 30 feet with 10 shots with this gun. Moreover, the "half-cock" (2 clicks) hammer position does not always permit rotating the cylinder to load or unload. It takes two or three tries before the cylinder will rotate. I blew over $600 on the "tuned" version, plus $30 for local FFL transfer fee, and $60 on ammo. There is no enjoyment in shooting a gun that won't shoot to the point of aim. I am sorry I bought it.
Did you contact Taylors & Company, regarding your experience? I bet they would have gave it a good going over for you, at no charge. Their customer service is exceptional compared to many others.
Custom action tune, Turnbull case color and bluing and real custom ivory grips that's a lot spent on a $500 Italian clone. At that point I would rather invest in a very high quality American made Standard Manufacturing SAA that actually retained it's value.
I've got two Taylor's Ubertis. One the case hardening was beautiful. The other was less so but still 100% better than his gun was originally. Luck of the draw I suppose.
@@duelist1954I Love those grips..please stop defending yourself to these Biden voting, “hurt my feelings w those grips” people..they look great and so does the rest of it..great review as well Sir
If you're at the firing line shooting your revolver why do you load five? I understand the safety issue of not carrying on a loaded chamber but you're not walking around carrying it loaded with six, your actually shooting it, smh 👀
I don’t get it. Is there nothing of interest in your life that you need to devote your time to how many rounds I load? I guess the “SMH” in your post means you’re smacking your head….OK…I wouldn’t abuse my head that way, but, your head, your business…my gun, my business. Besides that, you are making some assumptions about what is going on my side of the screen that you have no way of knowing. This six-minute video you’re watching took about four hours to film. You don’t see all the time that I spend setting up shots, getting the camera angles right. Putting marks on the ground for where my feet are going to be placed, picking up debris between scenes, you name it. A lot of work occurs off-camera. While that is going on, I’m wearing a loaded gun. If it gets knocked out of the holster, I know it won’t discharge. But, if I need it, I know it’s ready.
@@duelist1954 well I can tell by your arrogant comment that you can't handle answering a simple question but nevermind I don't need your fucking answer, btw smh means 'shaking my head'
the gun was made for 6 months I carry it already a long time always doing it quick draw do everything the gun was made for that six rounds otherwise you might as well use the Derringer
I have to agree with you. Pretty tacky in my opinion. I have the exact same revolver, the 4109DE Mine is better looking than his was before he had it modified and I think it's better looking now. I specifically requested Taylor's pick out a very dark colored 4109 to tune into the DE before shipping it to my dealer. I sort of middlemaned it a little, but I got what I wanted. While the grip is a little boring, I have been toying with having some elegant hardwood grips custom made for it. However, I would NEVER have them made of elephant ivory EVER.
Paul Salyers it really upsets me! I thought he had more class then that! My name is Rich and I'm using Donna's phone!! I'll never watch another one of his videos!! 👮👮
Sixgunner dot org thanks six Gunner. This is Rich. I went too Google again and found different answers. The 500 s&w does push faster. But two different pages gave different chamber pressures . A 20 thousand lb difference. But after reading several reports that do differ . I would agree with you, sorry and thanks for the info. As soon as my lottery money comes in I'll buy you one. ( Lol ). I want both if I ever get better. I'll also buy one for Diane Feinstein! She and her friends can come shooting with us. They may just like it. God bless!!
It is possible to purchase LEGAL Ivory here in the USA , which I'm sure Mike has done. It is also cost prohibitive - meaning I'll betcha He's got more $$ spent on the grips than the gun . As a hunter you should know about renewable resources / sustainability . Ivory is no different than antlers , my friend , except they ( Elephants & Rhino ) have been poached for years , unlike Deer & Elk here in the USA. Your problem , therefore , is not with Mike ... it's with African poachers . Nice try - go hug a tree , you'll feel better .
seaswirl79 I find it interesting that you have no compunction concerning cutting down a tree that took 30 years to grow vs. harvesting a renewable animal part that takes far less time to mature . I own " Stag " grips , and imitation Ivory grips from Buffalo Brother's ( recycled piano keys ? ) because I can't afford $1K for REAL ELEPHANT IVORY or Walrus tusk . While I admire your passion for conservation I feel it's a bit misguided . Is it possible you have been duped by mainstream media ?
