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TaylorMade's HUGE GAMBLE? - The SCOTTY CAMERON KILLER!? 

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TaylorMade's HUGE GAMBLE? - The SCOTTY CAMERON KILLER!?

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@chrisb2890
@chrisb2890 Год назад
I recently did a putter fitting and thought it was a very good and informative experience where I was able to learn a lot about my stoke and technique. Wound up getting a new odyssey OG white hot fang style putter and I absolutely love it. Great info as always from both of you, keep up the good work and love the content!
@miguelitoaniceto5882
@miguelitoaniceto5882 Год назад
I putted with this TM putter today. Feels nice but still not as good as my Scotty Newport. The Cleveland milled putter is underrated.
@francoisdesmoulins-lebeaul4273
A few years ago, I wanted a Scotty. Went to the proshop, tried a few SC and a few other putters for "justification". Long story short, I now play a Cleveland and I'm very happy! It just felt a bit better and was costing a bit less... No fancy cover initially, but then I can buy funny ones, or covers from famous courses I play, or whatever...
@gafferkb
@gafferkb Год назад
Agreed, I have a Huntington Beach 11 and love it Would love a SC but hard to justify the price
@cloudninjanu
@cloudninjanu Год назад
I am using one of the cheaper Odyssey O-Works 7 and very pleased with it. Many Scotties are too expensive for my taste.
@davidgolf3245
@davidgolf3245 Год назад
James thanks for the review. If you need to get rid of or donate those putters, I'd like to volunteer my self to get one. Let me know please. Doesn't hurt to ask. Be well and may you hit nothing but fairways and greens.
@stevenhocking7731
@stevenhocking7731 Год назад
Love my custom Spider GT. If TM made a "Del Mar" type and had options to customise I would probably order one.
@bumpedhishead636
@bumpedhishead636 Год назад
I'm still using a Ping Anser made in the 1980s. No milled face, no inserts, no removable weights, not even any alignment lines! I've tried the spiders and 3-balls and I hated them. They cause me to focus on all the shit on the head instead of just making a good stroke with the right speed.
@MrLunchbox44
@MrLunchbox44 Год назад
I currently use the Taylormade Spider putter, and I really like the feel. I would be interested in trying one of these to a Scotty putter.
@willywantoknow2563
@willywantoknow2563 Год назад
Slowly building my set. First had a spalding blade putter, then a TNT, now have my first mallot of some unknown brand, yet it has textured face and three alignment sights and a decent grip. Unless i can upgrade to something at a thrift store ill stick with what i got until then.
@thomasmikel3566
@thomasmikel3566 Год назад
I will probably keep my Studio 2.5 in the bag until the face caves in. So it will be a long time before I'm the market for a new putter. With that being said, I do like the simple elegance of these TM putters. I don't need a lot of flash and color on the putter. It's purpose is to put the ball in the hole, not make my bag look like a flower pot. So, if I ever need a new flat stick, I'll definitely take a look at these along with maybe some of the M-craft line by Mizuno.
@jacobmccain8082
@jacobmccain8082 Год назад
Been in a T22 Limited since 2019. Yes it cost me $700 but I can easily get at least that back after using it for 3+ years every round. Thats why SC dominates. No other putter holds value like they do.
@Hunter-zp5hd
@Hunter-zp5hd Год назад
Yep that is certainly a factor in buying clubs. Very few manufacturers have good resale value. Most clubs lose at least 30% value as soon as you walk out of the store. After some use, they lose 50%. Scottys don’t do that.
@jaxongolf
@jaxongolf Год назад
Yeah, but it's all kind of annoying in the fact that it is simply a self-fulfilling prophecy in a very tricky golf club category. For me, being a putter designer, to even consider charging one of my customers $700 for a head that cost me about $35-50.00 to produce is too ridiculous to even fathom.
@briarmeadow
@briarmeadow 11 месяцев назад
Scottys are Collectors clubs for sure. And if it works for you on the course better than the rest, even better. For some golfers, they want a statement putter in their bag. Others want whatever works best, which is why there are some really ugly putters out there. If your T22 is doing both for you, you've hit the Bonus. Congrats.
@thedeeprot
@thedeeprot Год назад
🔥🔥🔥
@danielhowell2967
@danielhowell2967 Год назад
Im a putter geek. Give me a putter video over a driver one any day! I love the feel of milled putters. I’ve had Scotty Camerons, Ping PLDs, Mizunos, Toulons, Kronos’, Bettinardis and about 5 or six different heads on most of those models too. But for some reason nothing comes close to my Wilson Staff Model BL22
@MarseeOrvil
@MarseeOrvil Год назад
I’m still using a 2018 Scotty 2.5 select putter. I’ve been thing about buying a queen bee from betinardi as of late.
@leighstait
@leighstait Год назад
Love my Scotty's. I don't change putters very often, but I would try one of the TaylorMades if I was looking
@Chris_Pollitt2241
@Chris_Pollitt2241 Год назад
Currently using the Wilson infinite West loop. Milled face, good weight and grip.
@aaronpritchard4889
@aaronpritchard4889 Год назад
I’d love to see you review the lab golf mezz max
@captainsnake7406
@captainsnake7406 Год назад
Been using a Newport for 2 years and love it, but tried a Bettirnardi BB-F yestrday and have never felt anything like it, also didn't help when I made 6 straight putts from 20 feet. But had to leave it $$$
@MrBogieboy01
@MrBogieboy01 Год назад
I dont think i could put with a blade putter if i wanted to, as i love my old oddesey white steel 3 ball srt with a supersteoke pistol gt 2.0 grip... just sank a 35ft birdie put with it yesterday...
@mikelee5390
@mikelee5390 Год назад
I've played Scotty's for years...I've always wanted a Scotty "Notchback" but I'm lefty & they have never made one for us leftys...So this Taylormade version really has caught my eye!! Thanks for another great video James!! P.S. I think putters are SEXY!! lol
@Cushty84
@Cushty84 Год назад
I have only just put a Spider X in the bag and took out the onld style Ping anser 2 and im loving the spider so will be sticking with that.
@jeffsharp104
@jeffsharp104 Год назад
I recently purchased a 2020 Scotty Special Select Newport 2. Do I putt any better? Probably not, but I can’t use the excuse “I need a better putter anymore”.
@johndomutz1052
@johndomutz1052 Год назад
Yes, I would consider a TM putter over a SC, especially if it is priced lower.
@TheB16ahonda
@TheB16ahonda Год назад
Used the odyssey two ball for years and loved it but switch over to the scotty square back and love even more.
@shoooooooes
@shoooooooes Год назад
I've had my original Oddesey White Hot #1 for over 20 years, and don't plan on replacing it.
@rodgerromero3521
@rodgerromero3521 Год назад
Evnroll CR7V. Have you guys done a product review on Evnroll putters?
@alexarkin227
@alexarkin227 Год назад
James you should do more cobra clubs reviews.
@adriancox-thesantjordigolf3646
I will stick with my pin anser heel and Toe. I must admit that all of the models that you presented us today are stunning.
@ericwilmsen5932
@ericwilmsen5932 Год назад
Replaced my Scotty Newport 2 with an Odyssey White Hot #7 last year. The Odyssey is half the price and a much better putter for me. Not saying Odyssey is a superior product, more likely switching from a blade to a mallet was the change I needed. A huge improvement was longer distance lag putting... went from 2 or 3 3-putts a round to less than 1 on average. Doubt I will ever go back to a blade.
@paulsturmey28able
@paulsturmey28able Год назад
Have Newport 2.5 in the bag and love it but these look just as good, if it feels better than my scotty then I would definitely change once I’ve saved up.
@vaycey
@vaycey Год назад
Looks great reminds me of the ghost putter. Shame it's not cheaper
@TheECUDave
@TheECUDave Год назад
I'm using a PLD Anser 2, it's the putter all Newport's aspire to be. It put my Spider X on the shelf very quickly.
@Erictheking66
@Erictheking66 Год назад
Taylormade have tried this before with the Kia Ma line of milled putters... but they didnt stick with it long enough like odyssey have with Toulon to get a market share
@Tooheymatt24
@Tooheymatt24 Год назад
I have been putting with the Mizuno OMOI blade putter with 13g weights in. Absolutely love it! I’m a lefty so scotty camerons are hard to find for us. Would definitely go scotty though. They just are like the mecca of putters
@jaxongolf
@jaxongolf Год назад
Cool putter! Question, purely from a perspective of my personal curiosity to hear the opinions of other golfers: what makes a SC putter the mecca of putters?
@Tooheymatt24
@Tooheymatt24 Год назад
@@jaxongolf to be honest the hype of the professional usage is what gives it the prestige. I haven’t been able to find one to actually put with personally. Have used fellow golfers and they feel amazing. They are not crazy forgiving on off center putts but yeah haven’t brought myself to the $500 price tag either
@jaxongolf
@jaxongolf Год назад
@@Tooheymatt24 More players play Odyssey putters on tour more often than a Scotty, and Scotty's market share is decreasing with the rise of fantastic brands like Evnroll, SIK and LAB just to name a few. Scotty has made its reputation on a very high quality product and a vast array of designs with additional variants offered with plumber's necks, fluted hosels, etc. so it's pretty certain one can find a putter they fancy from the current repertoire and looking back throughout their legacy products. If pros are putting a Scotty in the bag that are not a paid Titleist staff athlete, the most likely answer is the sheer prolific number of demo putters Titleist leaves strewn about at every tour event's practice greens, never missing the opportunity to catch a pro on an off-putting week. They have unquestionable value...that is still no where ever close to the asking price. Self-fulfilling prophecy in late-era Capitalist America.
@Tooheymatt24
@Tooheymatt24 Год назад
@@jaxongolf completely agree. To be honest my eyes have been on that jailbird putter from odyssey. Tour proven too haha
@chadotis8416
@chadotis8416 Год назад
I'm looking at the Bettinardi line. Same price point as the SC but i like the unique looks better and love the feel. Just a matter of what model at this point.
@davidoconnor3201
@davidoconnor3201 Год назад
Got fitted for a bb-28 a couple of weeks ago. Make sure you try it. I tried them all, including quite a few Scotty's. The bettinardi bb-28 is brilliant. It's a solid block of stainless steel, but it somehow feels soft off the face. Makes a great noise too. I'm in love with it.
@chadotis8416
@chadotis8416 Год назад
@@davidoconnor3201 i did try it today. sadly they only had one in stock. It had the small grip,i prefer the larger group. I love the looks of the Queen B line. I did prefer the weight and feel of the BB-28 I think. Hard decision when spending $430. Lol
@davidcole2337
@davidcole2337 Год назад
Looks like the Kirkland Putter.. Except 3 times more expensive.
@davidlargen31
@davidlargen31 Год назад
James stroke looked really good with... I would put it in the bag for a bit...
@briantorney980
@briantorney980 Год назад
I played Newport 2 forever UNTIL I tried a LAB putter. Just upgraded to the Link1 and the Scotty is just a dust collector.
@bobjoswick6075
@bobjoswick6075 Год назад
Nice, but I will stick with my Ping, Zing. Thanks for the content, signed Mr. Three Putt Bob
@epicragegaming2016
@epicragegaming2016 Год назад
i like the seven style putter. looking at a scotty but the tri hot is 100 cdn dollars cheaper. the taylormade reserve fits in between those.
@donbernhardt2424
@donbernhardt2424 Год назад
That "Newport" styled Taylormade B11 reminds me of a Ping Anser for some strange reason ;)
@paulcarrier3794
@paulcarrier3794 Год назад
I use a spider and do not plan on changing. I love the feel and I hole a lot of putts. If it works , don't change.
@slicerjohn1897
@slicerjohn1897 Год назад
I would definitely stick with my original odyssey 2 ball blade, new putters are very expensive.
@jeraldvickery4166
@jeraldvickery4166 Год назад
I noticed some times guys say Quid and sometimes say Pound, Is that the same as us in the US saying a Dollar or a Buck? Just curious.
@finbar481
@finbar481 Год назад
Has anyone told you, you look like Paul Gascoigne? Of course the have 😂
@mbrown3356
@mbrown3356 Год назад
And all these manufacturers: scotty, taylormade, odyssey, toulon can thank ping for the design!!
@aussiegolfer2919
@aussiegolfer2919 Год назад
I’ve been playing a Cleveland Huntington Beach for the Las two years after having a ping for 25 years . Love the Cleveland 👍👍⛳️🏌️‍♀️
@deviusfeilds
@deviusfeilds Год назад
Seen a few reviews, impressed. To make a change Taylormade needed to up the USP of this putter. My copper beryllium bullseye has entered a shared trauma relationship with me. I'm well down the sunk cost fallacy path, one day its going to pay me back!
@chrisengland1
@chrisengland1 Год назад
Don’t think Scotty Cameron going out of business anytime soon - I won’t change mine as it’s perfect for me 😁
@MrJohnnyb74
@MrJohnnyb74 Год назад
I just seem to hole more putts with a mallet so blades and collectible putters don't really appeal to me.
@tonyaltobelli2050
@tonyaltobelli2050 Год назад
Have you seen the Milled Wilson 8802?
@Kdpeters80
@Kdpeters80 Год назад
I’m a big fan of Piretti putters. I own a cottonwood 2, and a Matera.
@neilcoates8179
@neilcoates8179 Год назад
Just hope they have them in left-hand options
@DavidPetryk
@DavidPetryk Год назад
Next yrs dark versions will be very nice. But good think about TM is these will go on sale unlike Scotties.
@roncook6
@roncook6 Год назад
Always wonder about the mental mystery of changing putters. If you hit yours fine, why change? If not, why not just change styles instead of manufacturer?
@rickystelzer
@rickystelzer Год назад
Cool video. Newport 2 still reigns supreme imo.
@sg38962
@sg38962 6 месяцев назад
I was a huge fan of Scotty so purchased Newport2, Squareback2, and other Scotty mallet putters but all did not work for me. They are so sensitive. Then I've purchased and played with Odyssey putters, Evnroll putters, Seemore putters, Ping putters, etc. Trial and error for sure. Finally, I found the Taylormade Spider Tour putter that I've never thought about as a putter brand but works great for me. It gives me the really good feeling when putting And I ordered TP Reserve B31 which is on sale and I love notchback 'cause I'm old fashioned So my putters will be Taylormade Spider Tour and TP Reserve B31 alternatively
@tjransom2739
@tjransom2739 Год назад
If they came out a month ago maybe but i just purchase a Cobra Agera 3D Volition putter and i love it
@alanstorer9748
@alanstorer9748 Год назад
Went from a scotty to a Ping PLD DS72 love the putter but after a year the head cover is falling to bits😢
@neilross6227
@neilross6227 Год назад
on first viewings, hard to say if i'd change from my SeeMore PCB putter..
@1993j
@1993j Год назад
It looks very cheap compared to my £180 Cleveland Huntington Beach Milled, which is coincidentally the same price as the TP, which is coincidentally the same quality as this.
@Trouty5000
@Trouty5000 Год назад
My Spider GT is super consistent and I’ve always felt that every putt I miss I know that I misread it had nothing to do with the way the putter delivered.
@lexxwhite747
@lexxwhite747 Год назад
They look great, but it would take a LOT for me to give up my Phantom X 7.5
@parmanduke
@parmanduke Год назад
Versa Jailbird which has won the last 3 TOUR events might have a chance
@garyarrowsmith9451
@garyarrowsmith9451 Год назад
I’ve tried a number of putters in the past year as this is one of the worse parts of my game, but the one putter that has stuck in my bag now is the STIX putter, due to the graphite shaft all the weight is in the putter head and feels great, thick grip helping with keeping the head straight at impact and looks great all in black.
@mikconstable9168
@mikconstable9168 Год назад
Just had a new driver and a new set of irons. If my Mrs sees any other putter than my Dunlop in my bag I’m in trouble .
@petekenny3774
@petekenny3774 Год назад
Hide it I do 😂😂😂😂👀
@SasquachGolf
@SasquachGolf Год назад
Looks great! I'd definitely consider it. I chose to go with a Ping PLD over a Scotty because of feel and I think the Newports just look like a knock off Anser
@jaxongolf
@jaxongolf Год назад
Isn't it always amazing that we've been re-sold the Anser countless times over, each new iteration promising "more" but being absolutely nothing different? Karsten Solheim was such a genius and innovator and I wish more people supported the Ping putter products with even half as much fervor as the Scotty Fans do. The SC price point is completely a self-fulfilling prophecy.
@donkee9
@donkee9 Год назад
@@jaxongolfhate Scotty’s much?
@jaxongolf
@jaxongolf Год назад
​@@donkee9 both yes and no: yes (concerning the price gouging), enough to found my own putter company; no, their quality and craftsmanship are impeccable.
@donkee9
@donkee9 Год назад
@@jaxongolf I feel it. Kudos to starting your own line. 🥂
@garydavis8213
@garydavis8213 Год назад
Morikowa is using one, I believe.
@craciunator99
@craciunator99 Год назад
I really really don't like the off center R on the blades. I like how the R is in the middle in the mallet line. The M21 is what I have my eyes on, the fanged mallet with the plumbers neck.
@jaxongolf
@jaxongolf Год назад
As a club builder, I could jack the price of any normal club if I just had a SCOTTY CAMERON stamp to imprint each one.
@davidsouthgate7624
@davidsouthgate7624 Год назад
Yep all about the branding.
@BA-kp1us
@BA-kp1us Год назад
Don’t disagree but it is a quality built product, the fit and finish is better than most…is it 100% better…probably not but I’d say it’s a good 25-30% better easy - compare an Odyssey blade to a SC and taking price away even a non-golfer would choose the SC - eg even my wife has said the SC just look and feel more premium. So not just branding but does branding juice the price? Absolutely - like anything - are BMWs 100% better than a Ford Mustang in terms of performance - nope but you pay more.
@riaanh01
@riaanh01 Год назад
​@BA-kp1us I hear you about the putters, but a Mustang interior cannot be compared to a BMW's, and I don't even like BM's
@bfgolf
@bfgolf Год назад
Loved my anser 2, love my Newport 2, now I love my phantom x 5.5.
@toonlad4091
@toonlad4091 Год назад
No way any putter should be breaching the £200 mark….any club for that matter! That being said……I want one😂
@nkimmanceify
@nkimmanceify Год назад
You will have to go down the mine and work along day to own one at £380 each
@petekenny3774
@petekenny3774 Год назад
Issue is people will spaff 500...600on a driver but won't on a putter ....YOU USE YOUR PUTTER THE MOST 🤯🤯😉😉😉😉
@nkimmanceify
@nkimmanceify Год назад
@@petekenny3774 i wouldn't spend £500 on a driver either. Current driver c723 tour edge imported last year at £230
@briarmeadow
@briarmeadow Год назад
I was demo'ing the Scotty Super Select 2.5+ the last several weeks. Lots to like there. However, I did some head 2 head comparisons for the last 3 weeks with the B13 out on course for multiple rounds. Scotty is really good. The B13 definitely rolls the ball better. Better grip as well. Better head cover. And if i can offer a word to Titleist on putter head covers, GET RID OF THE VELCRO CLOSURES. Awful. My new Taylormade is 1st rate all the way around. Update - The B13 has been awesome for me. I love this putter. I would buy it again.
@paulwolland9292
@paulwolland9292 Год назад
The spider looks absolutely awesome
@acbower4468
@acbower4468 Год назад
This TM putter looks great!
@TZOID08
@TZOID08 Год назад
Where are they made ??? I struggle to pay a premium price for a putter made in China where the cost of goods is obviously lower than one made in Japan or USA...
@carlcrader1939
@carlcrader1939 Год назад
I spend my money on lessons and playing not on expensive putters, but like most new putters it does look nice and I'm sure it feels good.
@paulgarthright296
@paulgarthright296 Год назад
Need to fit the putter to the golfer
@stratovani
@stratovani Год назад
Just what the golf world needs, another Ping Anser clone!
@autumnstar9475
@autumnstar9475 Год назад
The issue is its just taylormade, not toulon which is sean toulon, or Cameron which is scotty. Its taylormade. Hard to have the consumer psychology associate it with premium
@DanB-
@DanB- Год назад
Spending that sort of money the question is why would you not get a Scotty? Loads of models, loads of options, custom options etc etc Make these TM putters more like £200-250 perhaps they might get some customers.
@EricCartmenez1
@EricCartmenez1 Год назад
tough to beat the feel, balance and look of a scotty - there's a reason why so many use them!
@bblair2627
@bblair2627 Год назад
Be interesting to see if they feel better than a Cleveland
@stevenbowers2429
@stevenbowers2429 Год назад
Golf manufacturers love to do this to get money from the masses. What matters with any club-does it help you get the ball in the hole in as few as strokes as possible. High end putters are a money generating tactic. Scotty C's Newports are copies of the Ping Anser, so on and so forth. Looks fine, probably putts fine, but for the $$$, a lot more value out there
@mikeb1149
@mikeb1149 Год назад
Bought a used Scotty Futura XM7 over the winter and putting became much better. Only 1 or none in the 3 putt department per round now. Making many more putts in the 8 to 10 foot range now. Don't really care about the name, just want a flat stick that performs.
@antonioserrano969
@antonioserrano969 Год назад
I just bought one last week. I also plan on ordering the counter balance version to test. What made you opt for that putter?
@bigbluemsp
@bigbluemsp Год назад
Joe Toulon already kills Scotty in feel, and his custom 303SS putters you can buy don't cost 1000-5000. Plus, Joe actually knows what proper milling is. Deeper the better
@golfhawk18
@golfhawk18 Год назад
Not a new thing from TM. They used to have those really nice milled putters by Kia Ma over 10 years ago.
@justinrivet1085
@justinrivet1085 Год назад
I would get fitted first of all. If TM and Scotty were close for the fitting and close in price then I’m going Scotty. You know the Scotty is made well and can depend on it
@simonmackness403
@simonmackness403 Год назад
You can never 'kill' the Scotty brand - it's legendary. I'm sure there are better putters, better value, better for your game - but brands are powerful things. It's like saying will this new watch brand kill the Rolex.
@markharmon9892
@markharmon9892 Год назад
Edit "Looks very similar to a Ping Anser" lol
@jonwhittington8991
@jonwhittington8991 Год назад
Bettinardi ❤
@darrellsundstrom4543
@darrellsundstrom4543 Год назад
Bad timing on TM's part. Oddessy Jail Bird grabbing all the headlines right now.
@danielthomson9542
@danielthomson9542 Год назад
They do look nice, but it would have to be pretty bloody good to take my SC phantom 5.5 out the bag
@petekenny3774
@petekenny3774 Год назад
Doubt the tour players will use them hard to get them to change 🤯🤯 lovely putters though ...what's the price lads
@timlaine6268
@timlaine6268 Год назад
Lets see where they are in 5 years in the used market.
@ronmullard5718
@ronmullard5718 Год назад
I'm happy with my Rife.....so won't be going in my bag...(unless it comes with a never miss guarantee.....lol) to quote the age old comment....it's only as good as the person using it.....
@blazecan1894
@blazecan1894 Год назад
They are gorgeous but I won't be buying. Not going to help them recoup the tens of millions of dollars that they pay their spokesman which explains the horribly high price.
@karldann3107
@karldann3107 Год назад
Taylomade need to put one in Rory McIlroy hands
@tommiethatcher7265
@tommiethatcher7265 Год назад
Well played Taylormade they look awesome
@jimsaddler942
@jimsaddler942 5 месяцев назад
Although these look very nice, I would not be willing to give up my Newport for either of these.
@scottd291
@scottd291 Год назад
I have been fitted by PING for a PLD DS72 cannot belive anything could be better
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