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This was never a diss for pac Biggie said he made it before pac got shot.... But.....cant imagine when pac listen to it for first time after getting shot so i see why beef got started whole shit is crazyyyy
ok stevie some knowledge for ya, who shot ya was recorded and even performed before pac was shot in the studios biggie was at, the track was not a diss at pac as the beef hadnt even started yet. when pac got shot biggie was asked not to perform this song anymore by puff as to not escalate things and ruin puffs deals he was starting to put together. when pac was killed the theory is puff was going to lose all the sponsors etc he had got by then because companies didnt want to be associated with all the gangsta stuff but puff was in too deep with biggie so orchestrated his shooting so that he could get more money for himself. you wonder why em and the game both have said they know who shot biggie and both pointed finger at diddy numerous times.
i was just about to comment this, but glad you already addressed it. we need to be responsible and accurate on how we record Hip Hop History. these details matter. love your channel, Stevie; but we as hip hop heads gotta be careful of the narratives we run with, or else "misinformation" will spread on the internet.
Biggie, especially on this whole album, has such mastery over the imagery of death. Every song, every bar, brutal shit. And yet, you can't look away. So many funeral phrases.
Diddy is also the one behind the whole movement of hating on Eminem. He own revolt which has Joe Budden talking shit any chance he gets and charlamagne too. He signed MGK that dissed Eminem. Diddy is somehow connected to everyone that come at Eminem.
Which brings me to the Snoop comment that Em is as big as he is because of Dre.... in my opinion it’s like saying Biggie was as big as he was because of Puff.... they are the giants they are because of their pen and what they brought to this game.... yes they played a big part in their careers but they still had to bring their game and deliver..... which they did
Mgk and Joe are both pretty cool tbh. Mgk is just kinda young and that's why he took Eminem to heart. He's amazing actually. Joe doesn't criticize but only praises Eminem now. I respect both of them. Diddy has always been bad tho.
@@MC-bd5ub eminem probably have stories enough to dig diddy entire career, however, this is a dangerous game, and if em takes diddy out, there will be people going for em's neck
True but there is a silver lining to this. We never would have gotten hit em up if this didn‘t happen. But obviously, that‘s nothing compared to see those two legends live long
"Who Shot Ya" was hard as hell! The authority of the intro alone brings you in. You brought up that Pac had a possey with him. I saw an Ice Cube interview where they were asking what was harder: No Vasiline or Hit Em Up. Cube said "I killed a whole crew by myself." Real shit...
This was never a diss. The original was meant to be from a mary J Blige Biggie and Keith Murray song. The Song was scrapped and instead Biggie kept it and he just added a second verse.
This breaks my heart. What a talent he was. I think about him every day. Only god can judge me - when he describes the pain of waking up in the hospital - you really feel it.
Wrong wrong wrong that song was completed b4 pac went to the studio...n pac was goin to do a song with someone else at the studio big n the fam didn't know pac was pullin up ..pac had beef with Jimmy henchmen n hatian jack. They both knew pac was goin to the studio that day n time...stop misleading ppl sayin this was a shot at pac...
This record was written before Pac got shot, this record wasn't taking aim at Pac. It was just released at a time where the beef between them was getting worse and numbnuts use this masterpiece as a way to fuel their ignorant theory about what really happened between the 2 greats.
Biggie being a better rapper than pac shouldn't be a controversial statement, pac was a special artist but he wasnt as technical a rapper as biggie nor did he have the ability to flow like biggie did
Biggie is one of the greatest story tellers of all time. Listen to "Ni***s Bleed" and tell me that you don't believe it is real when you listen to it- I can picture every part of that song when I listen to it. Pac is one of the best too though- just different styles. Whatever you like more determines who is better to you. I have to say though, Hit em Up was a much more brutal diss track. I like Biggie more probably, but I think Pac won, but also I don't really think Biggie really went after Pac. I believe that this wasn't really a diss. And Long Kiss Goodnight was brutal, especially considering the timing of it, but Hit em Up might be the most brutal diss of all time
@@Piffonum Yes and Warning. Those are three of the most descriptive tracks out there. Those three are more like movies or TV to me than songs because I can picture them like I was there just from listening
Big was a great story teller he's flow would change style to match the beat or even who he rapped with. Same with pac but he was on a mission and no one could him on his path.
@Unique Bill never but pac was more of a poet than a traditional lyricist. Pac was a wonderful story teller. And again i pick PAC over Big. Both greats but pac was more for me.
This wasn't supposedly a diss at Pac. Just the timing of it's release it seemed to be directed at Pac. It was released like right after Pac was shot at the studio.
Yeah but Tupac specifically said why would biggie still release it. He went into detail saying "Biggie would've known that I would've thought it was about me, so why would he still release it" in a way Sean Combs probably tried to garner some heat to further himself into marketing to bring in more cash but that resulted in a fued which turned out into a small scale war between the east and west coast. Whole thing seems to point at Sean combs no matter how you look at it
@Hansen Says Take A Seat bro this song was made WAAAAAY back... this wasnt towards pac but after hit em up he felt like this was the closest thing he could get to a "diss track" so thats why he dropped it. BTW the impact on hit em up compared to this isnt even fair :P Pac washed BIG , But i stand by the fact that big is the better "rapper" thats about it. Other than that Pac wins in every category
@@NasirJones112 i thought it was the other way around? This track was the reason pac dropped hit 'em up as it made him think Biggie was behind the shooting, so i thought.
NasirJones112 it’s just the timing tho. It was released at the wrong time tho. Why didn’t he stop them from releasing it or why didn’t anyone stop big from putting it out? That’s strange man
@@gabber1209 actually there were 2 versions of hit em up. The first one pac did, he stupidly played it for faith and faith went back and told biggie and they ended up taking the beat and Makin a song with it, which upset pac, so he did hit em up 2, so the hit em up that e listen to today was actually the second hit em up
Who Shot Ya was never intended to be a diss track to 2pac, he had already made and produced it before Pac got shot. It was just released at the wrong time, so everyone just assumed that it was referencing Pac.
Pac is so much more than a vibe, he was the voice of a generation. His pen was like no one else. Coming from someone who grew up and was all in and invested all attention to hip hop. You're fr offending me w the shit you're saying bout pac, bruh 😂 you got me in my feels. I cried when pac died, I didn't even cry when my parents, grandparents, other family, friends. Pac was hip hop. Pac spoke to people's soul. I can only wish you was old enough to grow up during this time too. Goodness what an amazing time. RIP Tupac, RIP Big. Love your channel big dawg. Don't take my comments wrong please. 💪💜
Biggie wasn't the king for no reason. I really like the way you always trying to explain the lyrics and express your own opinion without compromise, bro. You're the best
This ain’t a diss track...it’s a track that 2pac found offence in and used to fuel his feud with the East, Deathrow records had an agenda and this track has been linked to it.
Tupac was more of a modern-day poet, but Biggie was a true lyricist. Tupac brought you a different type of emotion in his lyrics, but Biggie had that pen game.
He released it after the shooting while pac was in jail. It's was clearly to fuck with pac. When pac got with Suge after his release, big backed down to avoid a war. Didn't work though and we lost 2 great artists over some BS
@@dannyzuko7182They didn't die cuz of the beef tho. Pac got shot by some punk who tried fighting with him that same night, obviously the dude's ego got over and peer pressure probably. Later on the guy picked up a gun and tracked down Pac in his car.
@@dannyzuko7182 But yeah, Biggie's death was definitely organized by Suge Knight and Death Row. They didn't like the idea of of losing their star that's why they started sabotaging the competition.
@@user-uq9dc8cr3c Tupac got killed for effing with the wrong young thug. But so many blood's though BB and Big took him down that BIG' s murder was retaliation. This song set it off. Because BB might have set Pac up.
@@dannyzuko7182 Not exactly. The guys that ran over pac was bad boyz bodyguards on west coast. The direct events leading to Tupac being shot started because bad boy had a 10K bag on some death row necklaces and Orlando had taken one from a blood on Tupac entourage. If it wasn't because the beef, that probably wouldn't happen.
Biggie definitely a better lyricist, Pac had perhaps the greatest sounding voice for rap ever... To me, for whatever reason Pac just had the best sounding voice for rap that I ever heard, just sounds good.. and combined with his personality and sound made him one of the greatest.. but biggie was better than him and everyone else at that time for that matter, as a lyricist...
I.M.O.: BIG = MASTERFUL BARZ, LYRICAL SKILL, FLOW, PUNCTUATION & SYLLABLES! & SO MANY MORE ATTRIBUTES. PAC = PURE RAW AGRESSION, ENDLESS ENERGY, & PASSIONATE POET! & SO MANY MORE ATTRIBUTES. NONETHELESS BOTH WERE THE GREATEST STORY TELLERS!
Starting life as an aborted Mary J Blige tune, the original, rough 1994 demo of Who Shot Ya?, recorded with rapper Keith Murray, saw some of Murray’s contributions being clipped for an interlude on Blige’s album My Life, and both of the Long Island rapper’s verses eventually sneaking out on a mixtape. Biggie’s finished version of the song transforms the feminine role into a droning croon from his wife, Faith Evans, underneath Combs’ unhinged hypeman exhortations (at times reminiscent of Wu-Tang’s Ol’ Dirty Bastard), all on top of breakneck beats. Who Shot Ya? also features a pivotal tinkling piano sample, which Nashiem Myrick, of Bad Boy’s in-house production team, The Hitmen, lifted from Stax soul man David Porter’s cover of the jazz standard (I’m Afraid) The Masquerade Is Over, before being polished into a towering, immaculate stop-start bounce by Poke, from production duo Trackmasters.
@@bowmurphy2659 Right.. it would've been scrapped if Pac stayed alive cuz allegedly him and Nas squashed their beef and he told him he's removing those lines but then he died and it was released anyways
I was wondering why this didn't feel directed at Pac.....then I looked at the comments and quickly realized why. I thought I missed something BIG back in the day. Im class '99.
I love your reactions but you got this one wrong. Biggie came out right away and said the song was written before the Quad shooting and even refused to perform it live but Puff being the problem he is plugged it on the Ready to die album. Just some shit I remembered from watching interviews back in the midst of the whole beef!
This song was never confirmed to be about PAC. Biggie said it was just coincidence with the timing. Long kiss good night on Life after death was 100% about PAC.
Listened to the Ready to Die album without realising Who Shot Ya made Pac think Biggie shot him, idk, the song kinda fit conceptually with what Biggie was rapping about on Ready to Die
Pac wins by default for actually using names & not backing down like Bad Boy did with Who Shot Ya & Long Kiss Goodnight. Definitely need to check out "Against All Odds", Pacs best disstrack.
Ugliest mc was a diss before hit them up. Long kiss goodnight was completed 96 and re edited to remove pac name. Far better diss and the harsh verses removed
Na Stevie this track was already on rotation before Pac was short. As I'm sure its already been pointed out. But yes it makes for a good diss track at Pac
DJ Quik Dollas and Sense is one of the most underrated beef joints ever dropped. He murdered MC Eiht on that shit, not to mention Quiks productions are SOLID.
Can't really say it was a battle because biggie ALWAYS denied the song was towards 2pac. Can't say he won if he was always afraid to say it with his chest
I am super biased because I am a Tupac Stan I don’t mind admitting it. He’s a thousand times better to me than Biggie. Biggie is overrated in my opinion. But putting who’s better aside. You’re just wrong when it comes to who dissed better because Biggie didn’t diss. He purposely didn’t put anything out, everyone can speculate as to his motives behind that but the fact remains he never actually dissed Pac. Hit em up has gone down in history as the best diss song of all time. And it’s not because of comparing bar for bar because like you said Biggie puts more emphasis on that. Hit em up is the best diss track of all time because of how DISRESPECTFUL it was and because of the energy it came with and the atmosphere it created. It had an entire coast shook. Man if you could go back in time and relive those 9 months Pac was on Death Row with the knowledge you have now you’d realize how much of a nuke bomb Pac was to the rap game at that time. And Pac wasn’t scared of no east coast people that’s why he went to NY and did Saturday Night Live at the height of the beef. Pac destroyed Big point blank period.
Pac is my favorite but you are wrong. Long Kiss Goodnight was a Pac diss and way better lyrically than hit em up. Biggie even came to LA and spit it on the wake up show
@@je6237 Show me where he says Pac's name. Subliminal diss lines aren't a "diss song". Did you even read my comment? I admitted that Hit em up isn't the best diss song because of the technical rap caliber of the lyrics. Everyone who knows hip hop knows Tupac wasn't that kind of a rapper and yet and still he is considered the GOAT by most people and Hit em up is considered the best diss song hands down. Who shot ya and Long kiss goodnight never make any lists when it comes to best disses and that's because subliminals don't count as a diss song. Like Eminem said "if you wanna diss me diss me don't be subliminal about it!".
@@izzzz1313 you sound ridiculous. Subliminal disses are disses. Eminem even does them . Just cause he said he doesn't in not alike. Putting someone's name in a song was giving them shine. Why they did sublims
@@izzzz1313 "Uh, I'm flamin' gats, aimin' at, these fuckin' Maniacs put my name in raps, what part the Game is that? Like they hustle backwards " that's why they did subliminal shots . You are slow. Look what Eminem did to mgk when he mentioned him. Blew him up
These comments are right Stevie, even Biggie himself said WSY wasn't a Pac diss. Pac did however take it personally after he was shot. I like the way Prodigy addressed the situation on Drop a Gem on 'Em
was it ever about who won? Tupac always had love for BIG and even through their difference in opinion he always said big was his homeboy. and BiG never wanted any of that street shit in his life, the guy wanted to provide for his family
Neither of them won, Biggie - Who shot ya wasn't a disstrack for Pac, it was released before Pac getting shot and it was a song for all the ballers that would like to get a beef with Biggie, will end up with a bullet in their head. Not even Long Kiss Goodnight, wasn't a disstrack for Pac. Hit 'em up tho from Pac, was a disstrack for Biggie, after he recovered from the shot, he didn't know that Who Shot Ya was before him getting shot and he made up Hit Em Up for Biggie, but Biggie never responded to that. A true real friend. 2Pac got shot because he punched that killah(Orlando Anderson) from the Cripz because Orlando had a beef with someone from Tupac's crew/gang. And he got mad in the casino and he punched him, resulting after to get shot by him. (even Orlando's uncle Keefe D who was a kingpin in the Cripz confirmed Orlando killed him because he couldn't let him live because Pac punched him and he was just a rapper, not a gangster, not a gang member or anything, just a *rapper*) And Biggie.. well.. according to the retired LAPD detective Greg Kading, Christopher Wallace (aka the Notorious B.I.G. aka Biggie Smalls) was shot and killed by Darnell Bolton (aka Wardell "Poochie" Fouse), a Mob Piru Blood and a member of Death Row Records security who was hired by Suge Knight to kill Biggie Smalls for $13,000. But, it's an unsolved case because Darnell Bolton died before getting interrogated and the police couldn't pull the strings on Suge because the hitman was dead. Even if it's an unsolved case, some of the rappers like The Game and even Eminem, pointed fingers across Diddy that he pulled all the strings so Biggie can be killed.
kellie pastellie Anyone thinks Biggie was a better rapper than Pac either 1) Don’t really know Rap 2) Is from NY/East Coast 3) is hella delusional Biggie ain’t even the best rapper outta NY..
"Hit em up" is just straight fuckn carnage. Biggie's definitely got the bars, that smooth ass delivery, but Pac came swinging with a goddamn crowbar when he dropped "Hit em up"
