TEAM TALK: WHAT IS THIS? ROTAX OUTBOARDS! (2023) 

Lmao. I would’ve paid to see this unveiling live if Andy did do it. Priceless.

The Expert knows what he's talking about! I love these Team Marine Service video's. If I lived near his shop, he'd be the only one working on my outboards. The industry needs more folks like him.

This is frickin' gold! I couldn't agree more, how could they not just rebuild the Evinrude brand and take control of the outboard market place.

They need to bring back Evinrude with a 105 or 110 degree prop shaft !! That will allow more stern lift without wedges or a canted transom, and as the motor is trimmed out the prop moves back through the arc to give the effect of set-back. Go with a inline six four stroke and it will have a natural balance and smoothness. hang a blower on the side and go like stink. Thanks Andy for all you do. Jim

Thank God they didn't call it an evinrude. I cannot believe this is what they decided to put their money on instead of the g2. They should have just taken all the marketing money and development from this and put it into good parts on the G2 along with refining it. They could have taken a 2 year break and got the G2 right maybe even consult mercury for some help. So disappointed.

All I want is a gear case with multiple gears. That way we can possibly be more efficient and maybe even a little faster.

What do y'all think? Will this Outboard be a hit or a flop? Comment Below!

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I'll pass and stick with Yamaha or Suzuki lol.

Andy droppin all them bleeped out F bombs haha reminded me of that Happy Gilmore scene where he goes off on national tv cussing out the ball because it wouldn’t go in the hole 😂

Please bring back the Etec or G2 , whatever, I have an Etec 225 on my 21 foot bass boat, run nothing but 100% eth free fuel , usually 89 octane, she starts , runs quick , great hole shot , purrs like a happy kitty……EVERYTIME !! Evinrude, part of the industry, Just my opinion, love it 👍🏽

I'm not into boats but own a BRP (Skidoo) snowmobile powered by a Rotax 4-stroke. It's a great performing engine but ease of maintenance / working on it was far down the list of priorities when designing it. I think their mindset is that the original owner will likely sell it / buy a newer toy before it requires any major work.

"Ole is crawling out of his grave" build us a kick ass Evinrude! Please.

What i saw was the weight of the powerhead farther from the transom adding extra stress and weight, while bouncing in the water and trailering

I want my outboard loud and menacing! NOT QUITE! 😖 those big 70, 80, and 90s V6 Evinrude and Johnson’s were so cool looking! They sound great too!

This is the future of engines for deck boats. I have a Hurricane with a Yamaha 200, would love the stern space where the engine cowling is. Sounds like he is coming at it from a fishing boat perspective. If it makes it to gen 3 it should be solid.

My main concern with this engine would be servicing it especially after saltwater use and also water intrusion into the motor because of improperly sealed cowlings

In my opinion, the new Aluma boats with Rotax are just perfect textbook examples where wheel has been tried to be reinvented... Nice videos though! Watching you from Finland. Could you someday do a comparison/Top 10 video of the 50-horse class? It's really popular here in northern Europe. Thanks and cheers 😎

I am a Johnson man,I have still got the old 1968 three strokes runs good pushes my old 1974 durocaft 16 foot boat. Have a good one love what y’all were talking about see ya next time see ya bye.

It's no surprise they kicked you out Andy! This is a damn embarrassment of an outboard. I heard it was a 2 stroke too! BRP just hasn't learned their lesson. #fail

Wow, I have an old 1976 75 hp Johnson that never misses a beat, it just keeps on going & going

I'm damn glad that my Evinrude is an old looper!

First time boat buying looking for a pontoon. Saw the Rotax and immediately raised an eyebrow

OMG............I lived through selling and servicing all the VRO problems, then FICHT, then going belly up once, then BRP FICHT (kinda), then G2, then Evinrude goes away again.........Now this. I did not think it could get worse..........BUT IT JUST DID. If ya remember, FORCE tired to so something similar....that was a resounding success wasn't it?. I have one saving grace. After 20+ years I retired, sold the dealership, and now all I have to worry about is servicing my own boat. Please, oh please, will you make a video of the first time someone rolls into your shop with one of these and a problem. It would be the highlight of my life in the marine world.

I was a diehard Evinrude fan for 30yrs. I loved them because Ole Evinrude was the original engine builder for Harley Davidson in 1903. He left H-D after a couple years to build Outboard boat motors. I was so excited when BRP bought the Evinrude name because I knew they have the money and engineering to build and design a great outboard, but just dropped the Evinrude name. I switched to Yamaha. I love my new Yamaha F70. But I was excited to hear BRP was bringing back a outboard. I naturally figured they would name it Evinrude because they own a 100 plus year old name that everyone knows. This Rotax is a bad idea. Plus Rotax dropped the 582 Aircraft engine $8,000 dollars, they dropped all 2 stroke aircraft engines. That killed the light sport aircraft engine market. They had the market cornered. Now you have to buy their 912 4 stroke that’s over $20k today. So the days of building a cheap light sport aircraft are gone. And nothing took off like a 582 2 stroke. They was great for short takeoffs in the back country.

Our G2 250 is currently out for ignition coil failure on cyl 5. Season OVER. Power steering about to fail for the second time. Doesn’t make me want to get involved with BRP.

My initial understanding when Project Ghost was first discussed, was that it would be a hybridization of the Rotax jet with the G2 powerhead. That might well make some sense; this design begs further explanation.

When he said "Stealth technology" coffee shot out both my mouth and nose. The people involved that designed this atrocity have obviously NEVER had to diagnose and fix a problem out in the proverbial "field". This feels like a novelty product. Yeah it's a never before seen design but that's about it. This "UnderBoard" will only be purchased by people of means. Someone who never gets his hands dirty. Someone that replaces something immediately rather than fixing it. Reminds me of the Chrysler/Dodge Prowler or the Chevy SSR... Novelty

And you wonder why they didn’t go with you to promote it lol Love the honesty I’ll stick with my Yamaha

I thought people would be happy to see a 2 stroke back on the market

Thought and imagine? These are words that shouldn't be talked when conversing about rotax!

Umm, it’s not the wheel. Why don’t we all just go back to wearing bell bottom jeans again. They worked right? The key to growth, allow yourself to be educated. How do they keep it dry? Sealed combined with an internal Air pump. The prop doesn’t sit any lower in the water then a standard outboard. The motor takes less movement to trim up than a standard motor. An upright motor trimmed up is going to come further back onto the rear deck trimmed all the way up then this motor will. This design extends the pontoon platform and entire 4 feet in length for usability. which is quite a bit. It creates a swim platform. Which is my wife’s favorite feature of the boat. Happy wife, happy life. Creates a great place to attach large coolers using their attachment system. That works really well I might add. Super nice feature that you can add two large rotomold coolers to your rear platform without using bungee cords or ratchet straps. This motor design changes the game in pontoon design and accessories. Do your research before you make a video.

Andy, I saw on one of your other blogs about Mercury laying off 300 people. You were trying to get with Mercury people to get answers about Mercury's future direction. I saw online a rather eye-opening 40HP outboard engine that was being tested which uses a new type if rotary engine made by a company called Liquid Piston XTS210. This is lighter, simpler, and has great characteristics for a future production engine and had the name Mercury on it. If you get to talk to the Mercury people, ask how that project is coming along.

I mean they built the Learjet.. how they fumbled the ball with evinrude I have no idea ..

30 year marine tech business owner and Evinrude devotee since childhood. Down here in Florida outboards are king due to shallow water and rocks. I've been anxiously awaiting the reveal of the much lauded not so secret Evinrude Ghost outboard release. MAN, AM I DISSAPOINTED. WHAT AN ABORTION.

I am curious as to why they think this is a 'better' product than the other outboards on the market.

Im about a year late to this but I've been watching your videos for a few years now. I've always really appreciated how you guys are very candid and upfront about whatever topic it is you're talking about. I'll admit there is also a layer of comedy between it all because of how fired up Andy gets when talking about shit going off on a tangent but still keeping things relevant to the topic and I have to say that I'm totally here for it.

Do you remember when Homer Simpson designed that car? Yeah this is kinda like that.

What a joke! I'm almost glad BRP didn't force this on Evinrude. Rotax Outboards is dead before it even begins. Garbage!!!

Give it a chance man. I hate the negativity. I think it looks fantastic on the pontoon boats and having all that space at the back is awesome! Not sure on the fishing boat stuff. I still want to see a Alumacraft without the optional platform on the back. P.S. my Evinrude G2 is a fantastic motor. It does so many things very well. Besides the other fit and finish design changes BRP made on the Alumacraft boats are amazing. The aluminum boat market was do for some changes and this will shake things up.

I have no interest in these, but Andy's reaction makes me want to buy 3 or 4 of them and bring them into Team Marine for service. If I video the service trip, it might be worth money as a viral video.

Hell yea brother 💯 💪 I'm right there with ya !! 25 years in the shop and I talk and ack alot like u do great to see other people's opinions match mine !!!

Homer Simpson Car...

I grew up on a lake back in the 1970s Myself and all of my friends dreamed of owning a sleek low profile boat, preferably a tunnel hull, with an inline 6 cylinder tower of power standing tall dark and handsome on the transom. For those of us who still like the somewhat striking appearance of those old Mercs these Rotax engines come up a little short.

I started at the age of 3 with an Elto on out Lyman. I have had no less than 20 Evinrudes and Johnson’s over the last 50 years. and still

WOW, Product of our school system? Where did he learn to talk?

Rumor has you get a free Bring Back The Edsel Tee Shirt with it!

You guys are missing the point. I'll admit, I'm still watching the video... but the point is to extend the back deck. Rather than having the motor sticking up in the way, you've got an extra 4 feet of deck space. We call it the "Max Deck". It's a huge improvement over the basic pontoon rear deck configuration. As far as maintenance goes, the entire center section EASILY opens up for full access to the motor. I'm not sure what BRP did to hurt you but you're offended that they didn't want you to pick apart their new boat at the unveiling? C'mon man, you HAVE to understand that. Look, I'm one of the people that appreciate guys like you getting on here and telling it like it is, and telling us what's good and bad. I don't like things sugar coated. So thank you for that. It's just that it seems personal. You're right, Manitou is a great company, and things definitely changed when BRP took over, but they've got a bigger vision and we had to do something. Have you seen the Avalon boats??? Our XTs are great, but expensive, so we've gotta have something cool for the masses. I just think the debut could've went better. We have to recognize our weaknesses and at least mention them. Yes, we impact tested them. We're ALL upset about the Evinrude thing. Bigger engines are coming. Also, not all "Explores" or "Cruise" boats have to have the "ghost" motor. I can tell you this, more colors are coming. More power is coming. It's in its infant stage. Let it grow. You have to understand taking offense for a company that I have a great deal of appreciation for. Something I might get in trouble for telling you is that WORD IS, that 4 people that were HEAVILY involved with its development left 75% into the project, leaving the group scratching their heads. Things will get better and it'll eventually morph into a great boat. Just give it some time. Thanks for your honesty.

From my personal experience, the outboards I've submerged under water, never ran reliably again.

Stop gap outboard until they can go full electric?

When my son became a engineer I told him over and over again. DO NO WASTE YOUR TIME TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL! I hate Evinrude used their customer's to find out their product issues !

Can't wait till the 250 version comes out!! lol

Better angle of the new set 👍 nice work. I'm looking forward to videos of you roasting these failures this underboard will have.

Your honesty and rant on BRP was hilarious and true. What a terrible idea for an outboard. It was probably designed by the EPA. Wait until they come out with outboards with exhaust fluid tanks like DEF systems on today’s diesel trucks. They already ruined the trucking industry, the boating industry will be next. BRP probably got a kickback from the government to build that garbage. Thanks for video I agree 💯 🇺🇸

In all honesty, despite BRP screwing it up, I still believe a better company should take over that 2 stroke technology and improve it, I ll buy it.

Under board hahaha!! To dam funny knee slapper lol !!

Rotex engines are very reliable and horse power up to over 300 Hp in the future running two 150 could be in second generation could be a true winning

Neill can't wait to fix one of these 😂🤣😂🤣😂 next to the 99 Fichts 😂🤣👏🤙✌️

Screwed em up when you said you’d be honest 😂

OMC Sea Drive is BACK BABY!

Our local Manitou dealer has gone all in with them, the other dealer took Suzuki from them

I find this technically interesting, especially since it appears to use the powerhead developed for the last generation 150 Evinrude, but I am a motorhead. How are the 150 G2's holding up? I too am not certain that putting the motor so low is a great idea. Nevertheless, it might be a blessing in disguise that the new engine is under the Rotax name. Unlike Evinrude, BRP is not likely to shut down Rotax since it supplies engines for numerous applications.

Hey Andy,Thanks for moving over so I could read the orang sign.. mike in Az.

Bring back the 1958 3 Hp

They had rotax engines years ago. There is a video in Evinrude history . Way ahead of the others

They tried being sneaky with the all new ghost motor

Sounds like they listened to the BOT that says.... Hello, I'm from the goobernment and I'm here to help. Great vid, thanks for your time.

The engine is designed around a very scientific mathematical calculation based on swept volume of the piston and in inefficiency of the IC Eng.

Reminds me vaguely of the Force L-Drive

If evinrude came back, I would have made it a four stroke and called it the “ghost” something like the SHO or PRO XS

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

I thought E-tec was an awesome motor. Glad it lives on!

I had no idea that i was tuning into a comedy show..lmao I laughed at least 65 percent through this.. Great video

Thanks!

Id buy a new 250 Evenrude Fast Strike hahaha...90's 175 fast strike on a stratos that a couple of us friends use when our new boats break down, fires up everytime. That boat/motor has won A LOT of tournaments in southeastern WI.

That semi-submersible under-board is going to be a boon with the narc submarines trying to reach the Sea of Cortés with their bounty!

They shafted their entire dealer network in a very cold way, oh-customers too, so now they can only put it on their own boats. Ever seen an outboard cowel with a crack or a chip? Ever seen a swim platform with a crack or a chip? One little bump and this thing is an insurance claim for a sunk outboard. Condensation will kill this in short time. I’m selling my boat with an Evinrude next spring as sadly I want to offload it before an injector goes now I have bought one with twin Hondas because I can buy parts for it for the next 10-20 years.

Big Al running BRP too. Sorry, couldn't resist that one.

No we cant do that! How about rework the 2 stroke!

“Let’s put the center of gravity even further back”

Brp rotax are so reliable they are FAA approved for flight. Which other outboard engine has that check mark

It’s a cool idea. Gives you a swim platform and those with IO and jet boats say they love it. However no way it will be reliable.

The worst part about it is there was more than one person that thought this was a good idea.

Laughing so hard at this love the review😂😂

Give it a chance! 2 Stroke direct injection is the future. Even your large diesels are two stroke scavengers because they produce more power. Many boats today are in boatels or dock lifts or trailered so the barnacle thing is a non issue. These engineers aren't morons, I am sure they have good reasons for their design. They obviously invested huge sums of money in this design. If we only ever stuck with old designs nothing new would ever come about. I love innovation, sometimes it is good sometimes not so much. We learn more from failure than success. Get a couple hundred hours on one then report back.

Let's see now - the powerhead practically sits underwater and there's two 90 degree turns in the drive works. What could possibly be wrong with that? And it will only be available on the boat brands they sell. That sounds like a GREAT marketing plan to capture a bigger share of the market. What a real POS - can't believe they gave up on Evinrude in favor of this thing. The folks who dreamed up this thing should be forced to come out to work on them when they crap out.

@ 21:20 SQUIRREL!!! Can hardly wait for you to get a "demo" model :) tannerite at 100yds!!

🤣🤣Andy Makin me laugh😂🤣🤣

You didnt say the fast strike🤣🤣🤣

What dealer would ever take on this line?

LOL everybody wants to know how you got the shiner

Should’ve said “it’s not a feckin submarine are you getting ready for war?” 😆 lmao

all the cost and simplicity of an outboard with the ease of service of an inboard...

If brp/evinrude were smart they would develop a high rpm diesel outboard.

You guys are the best!!! Bring back the Rudes!!!!! Speed, Money, No brakes!!

When I first saw a picture of it, the Queen song Fat Bottom Girls came to mind 😂 that thing is “squatted” hahaha

Redesign is very interesting...I personally checked it out and looked into the history of this company....time will tell if this design is everything they promote. But I liked what I saw and it performed as good or better than the comparable outboards in the sam horsepower range...

James Rolfe energy with this one

The Alumacraft dealers I spoke with all said they loved the boat improvements. Ride/ build/ features. None of them like the “under-board”. I think 90% will be standard outboards as long as BRP will allow it.

Jack plate and you are good, trim doesn’t do much for drivability function